Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating

There's a bug report for avoiding new users making invisible objects because of the last used style. I shared it in my first message in this thread. This is that report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777 However, I've gotten a bit lost in the technical discussions, so I'm not sure if the topic is still on this same solution as proposed in the above report. So fwiw :-) brynn -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 4:05 AM To: inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating This suggestion sounds reasonable to me. Mark, do we already have a bug report for it, where this can be laid out in detail? Maren Am 10.09.2018 um 11:56 schrieb Mark Crutch: > I often push the boundaries of Inkscape and SVG, in order to hide Easter > eggs in my comics, or when researching my Full Circle Magazine > tutorials. But even I can't think of a time when I've ever intentionally > *drawn* an invisible object. > > There are plenty of times when I've drawn an object and then > intentionally made it invisible (e.g. for text on a path or, most > recently, when creating a SMIL animation path for my next tutorial), but > I always draw them as visible objects first. > > There are too many ways that an object could be "invisible" to catch all > cases, but a simple rule of thumb might be that if both the fill and > stroke are set to "none", have an alpha value of zero, or the object's > opacity is zero, that the tool's default style is used. Combined with > the earlier proposal about reverting to the tool's own style on > start-up, this would lead to the following behaviour: > > 1) On starting Inkscape, creating a new image, or loading an existing > one, all tools are set to "tool's own style". > 2) While working on a document, "last used style" is used (unless the > prefs are set to always use "tool's own style"). > 3) When a drawing tool is selected and the drawn object would be > invisible (based on the heuristics above, and perhaps some others), the > "last used style" is modified to match the "tool's own style". > > It still wouldn't catch all cases - consider an alpha that's set close > to, but not quite zero - but I think an approach like this would help > new users whilst not particularly getting in the way of experienced users. > > > Mark > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user