Am 30.08.2018 um 10:48 schrieb C R:
The problem is there is no agreed upon solution. But I think Inkscape should never draw an invisible object anyway.
Particularly,
- If both fill and stroke are set to none, Inkscape should resort to
the Inkscape default setting of the bezier tool, which is black and white without dashed lines. Drawing an invisible shape is an error.
- If the user modifies the line width, and the line is set to "none",
Inkscape should set the colour of the line to the Inkscape default : black.
1. CR, how would users create invisible objects that are needed, then? (e.g. for alignment, or for text-on-path etc.?)
2. One could have multiple objects selected and be changing their line width, and then suddenly some get a black contour... Imagine having a group, for example, with stroked and unstroked objects.
I'd prefer keeping as is / having a noob mode that enables these kinds of helps / or putting the stroke style dialog and the stroke color dialog in a way that one can clearly see that there's no color assigned, when changing the stroke width (I always found it annoying that those are separate...).
Maren
I think this is a better solution than setting the default behaviour of Inkscape to a bad workflow - users should not be getting used to having to change the colour of the line and stroke each and every time they draw something. It is not intuitive because when you draw in real life you pick up a pen which is the colour you want and draw with it until you are done, then choose another colour when you want a different one.
-C
On Thu, 30 Aug 2018, 07:59 K B, <kmb999@...155... mailto:kmb999@...155...> wrote:
Hi, Brynn: Thank you for the Link about the Bug fix. Since Inkscape is free, maybe the creators are not very motivated to fix everything about it ? If it were a high price program like Adobe Illustrator, there would have enough money to pay programmers to fix it and make it better. Ken On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:47 PM brynn <brynn@...3089... <mailto:brynn@...3089...>> wrote: Some developers may remember a message I posted to the mailing lists some time ago, maybe a year or 2 ago, asking to have at least some of the tools set for Own Style (by default) rather than Last Used, to prevent this kind of utter confusion among new users. At first, on the mailing list, some developers sort of hijacked it into their own different project. But ultimately (in a bug report) one developer suggested a reasonable solution. See this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1704777 If anyone else (developers) could chime in on that solution, perhaps we could get it coded into one of the next new versions, and prevent this type of headache for new users? Thank you very much, brynn -----Original Message----- From: K B Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:30 PM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape can be extremely frustrating All I want to do to begin with is draw a simple Line Circle. (white background with white inside the circle). But instead it draws a dashed-rectangle with (4) little squares. Two squares are on the rectangle and the other two are outside. So, I go into: Edit, Preferences and the Circle it not even listed under Shapes! Crazy. Does anybody know what I should do? Thank you. Ken ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user
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