1:42 a.m.
Hi Guys,
Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have been
working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, I started doing it
for my own purposes (designing electric guitars and CNC parts) And now I
have complete support for python scripting inside inkscape. I will release
the code as open source in Github or Gitlab as soon as I can write some
documentation. The attached screenshot shows how it looks. The plugin has
its own code editor with syntax highlight, compilation check, and run. It
uses only python and gtk3, my working environment is Linux Mint, I am not
sure if it will work out of the box in windows or mac yet, but i am pretty
sure it will run in all platforms eventually soon.
The scripting environment gives full access to the svg document, xml
manipulation and also Object Oriented wrappers (mainly for path creation
and manipulation). Full python environment is also available. The scripting
code is stored inside the document (<script> tags) and you can import
external libraries too of course.
I hope some contributions will make the project better with time. This is
not a macro system, you can not record actions or invoke GUI actions, you
can just write scripts inside the document and manipulate the document
itself, move, transform, change attributes, create objects etc.. from
python scripts.
All your feedback will be welcome and I will be very pleased if the project
result useful for the community.
Cheers,
Frank.
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2:48 a.m.
Does it provide similar capabilities to/like
lisp in autoCAD?
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 22, 2019, at 21:42, Frank Martínez <mnesarco@...155...>
wrote:
Hi Guys,
Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have been working in an
embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, I started doing it for my own purposes (designing
electric guitars and CNC parts) And now I have complete support for python scripting
inside inkscape. I will release the code as open source in Github or Gitlab as soon as I
can write some documentation. The attached screenshot shows how it looks. The plugin has
its own code editor with syntax highlight, compilation check, and run. It uses only python
and gtk3, my working environment is Linux Mint, I am not sure if it will work out of the
box in windows or mac yet, but i am pretty sure it will run in all platforms eventually
soon.
The scripting environment gives full access to the svg document, xml manipulation and
also Object Oriented wrappers (mainly for path creation and manipulation). Full python
environment is also available. The scripting code is stored inside the document
(<script> tags) and you can import external libraries too of course.
I hope some contributions will make the project better with time. This is not a macro
system, you can not record actions or invoke GUI actions, you can just write scripts
inside the document and manipulate the document itself, move, transform, change
attributes, create objects etc.. from python scripts.
All your feedback will be welcome and I will be very pleased if the project result useful
for the community.
Cheers,
Frank.
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Dear Frank Martínez,
This work looks really exciting. I'd love to get you in touch with
Thomas Wiesner who has done a similar work in progress merge request:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/417
This functionality is similar, although not exactly the same. I believe
though that issues around how python accesses the internal svg document
are going to be the same.
The landing plan for such a feature would have to be post 1.0, so if
you were able to produce a branch on GitLab, then we would review it
but only want to merge it in after the 1.0 release is out the door.
You can also join us at https://chat.inkscape.org to talk more to other
developers as well as sending your message to the inkscape-devel
mailing list.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2019-03-22 at 20:42 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
Hi Guys,
Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have
been working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, I started
doing it for my own purposes (designing electric guitars and CNC
parts) And now I have complete support for python scripting inside
inkscape. I will release the code as open source in Github or Gitlab
as soon as I can write some documentation. The attached screenshot
shows how it looks. The plugin has its own code editor with syntax
highlight, compilation check, and run. It uses only python and gtk3,
my working environment is Linux Mint, I am not sure if it will work
out of the box in windows or mac yet, but i am pretty sure it will
run in all platforms eventually soon.
The scripting environment gives full access to the svg document, xml
manipulation and also Object Oriented wrappers (mainly for path
creation and manipulation). Full python environment is also
available. The scripting code is stored inside the document (<script>
tags) and you can import external libraries too of course.
I hope some contributions will make the project better with time.
This is not a macro system, you can not record actions or invoke GUI
actions, you can just write scripts inside the document and
manipulate the document itself, move, transform, change attributes,
create objects etc.. from python scripts.
All your feedback will be welcome and I will be very pleased if the
project result useful for the community.
Cheers,
Frank.
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9:01 a.m.
Really exciting news! Thanks for your work!
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 03:27 , <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
Dear Frank Martínez,
This work looks really exciting. I'd love to get you in touch with
Thomas Wiesner who has done a similar work in progress merge request:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/417
This functionality is similar, although not exactly the same. I believe
though that issues around how python accesses the internal svg document
are going to be the same.
The landing plan for such a feature would have to be post 1.0, so if
you were able to produce a branch on GitLab, then we would review it
but only want to merge it in after the 1.0 release is out the door.
You can also join us at https://chat.inkscape.org to talk more to other
developers as well as sending your message to the inkscape-devel
mailing list.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2019-03-22 at 20:42 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have
> been working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, I started
> doing it for my own purposes (designing electric guitars and CNC
> parts) And now I have complete support for python scripting inside
> inkscape. I will release the code as open source in Github or Gitlab
> as soon as I can write some documentation. The attached screenshot
> shows how it looks. The plugin has its own code editor with syntax
> highlight, compilation check, and run. It uses only python and gtk3,
> my working environment is Linux Mint, I am not sure if it will work
> out of the box in windows or mac yet, but i am pretty sure it will
> run in all platforms eventually soon.
>
> The scripting environment gives full access to the svg document, xml
> manipulation and also Object Oriented wrappers (mainly for path
> creation and manipulation). Full python environment is also
> available. The scripting code is stored inside the document (<script>
> tags) and you can import external libraries too of course.
>
> I hope some contributions will make the project better with time.
> This is not a macro system, you can not record actions or invoke GUI
> actions, you can just write scripts inside the document and
> manipulate the document itself, move, transform, change attributes,
> create objects etc.. from python scripts.
>
> All your feedback will be welcome and I will be very pleased if the
> project result useful for the community.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank.
>
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1:14 p.m.
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the enthusiasm, I have to highlight some important points:
1. I started this as a hack initially to control some drawing constraints,
then it grows to something bigger.
2. I used the standard Inkscape extension mechanism. So this "plugin" is a
simple python extension.
3. I am not an Autocad user, so I can't compare with Autocad's lisp macro
system.
4. What you get: In your script you can manipulate the current svg
document. You can do whatever you want with it.
5. I have coded a general purpose Path object wrapper to create and modify
paths in an OOP fashion.
6. The code of this extension is simple, not rocket science ;)
7. I am on travel, but next week I will push it to gitlab.
8. There is a lot of room for improvement.
9. Two more screenshots attached ;)
Cheers,
Frank.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 4:02 AM C R <cajhne@...155...> wrote:
Really exciting news! Thanks for your work!
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019, 03:27 , <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
> Dear Frank Martínez,
>
> This work looks really exciting. I'd love to get you in touch with
> Thomas Wiesner who has done a similar work in progress merge request:
>
> https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/417
>
> This functionality is similar, although not exactly the same. I believe
> though that issues around how python accesses the internal svg document
> are going to be the same.
>
> The landing plan for such a feature would have to be post 1.0, so if
> you were able to produce a branch on GitLab, then we would review it
> but only want to merge it in after the 1.0 release is out the door.
>
> You can also join us at https://chat.inkscape.org to talk more to other
> developers as well as sending your message to the inkscape-devel
> mailing list.
>
> Best Regards, Martin Owens
>
> On Fri, 2019-03-22 at 20:42 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have
> > been working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, I started
> > doing it for my own purposes (designing electric guitars and CNC
> > parts) And now I have complete support for python scripting inside
> > inkscape. I will release the code as open source in Github or Gitlab
> > as soon as I can write some documentation. The attached screenshot
> > shows how it looks. The plugin has its own code editor with syntax
> > highlight, compilation check, and run. It uses only python and gtk3,
> > my working environment is Linux Mint, I am not sure if it will work
> > out of the box in windows or mac yet, but i am pretty sure it will
> > run in all platforms eventually soon.
> >
> > The scripting environment gives full access to the svg document, xml
> > manipulation and also Object Oriented wrappers (mainly for path
> > creation and manipulation). Full python environment is also
> > available. The scripting code is stored inside the document (<script>
> > tags) and you can import external libraries too of course.
> >
> > I hope some contributions will make the project better with time.
> > This is not a macro system, you can not record actions or invoke GUI
> > actions, you can just write scripts inside the document and
> > manipulate the document itself, move, transform, change attributes,
> > create objects etc.. from python scripts.
> >
> > All your feedback will be welcome and I will be very pleased if the
> > project result useful for the community.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Frank.
> >
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>
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4:12 p.m.
Thanks for the updates Frank,
This changes the calculation a little bit.
2. I used the standard Inkscape extension mechanism. So this
"plugin"
is a simple python extension.
This is interesting, there is a todo task for building a python
extensions manager that allows one to download extensions from the
internet, remove extensions and see other information about them.
Perhaps this can move in that direction?
5. I have coded a general purpose Path object wrapper to create and
modify paths in an OOP fashion.
We have developed a new OOP Path (and other things) python library into
Inkscape Extensions 1.0 project. This is a new python3 based, unit test
driven repository that replaces the old python extensions repository
completely.
If you're developing these advances as python extensions, then I'd love
to get your code into the extensions repository, especially advances in
the Path manipulation API or even just a review of the Path API we have
constructed.
When you create a GitLab branch/project you have two choices I think.
You can make your own project with only the new files, or you could
commit an Inkscape branch with the changes. If you do the later, please
do also make an extensions branch with any python pieces so we can
review how to integrate them (hopefully!)
Thanks for your contribution Frank, this is exciting work.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
2:45 a.m.
On Fri 22 Mar 2019 20:42 -0500, Frank Mart?nez wrote:
Hi Guys,
Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have been
working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, . . .
One question: Have you found a way of selecting an object
after your script runs?
This point bothered me several times and I hope you found a
solution.
Andrew
6:38 p.m.
Hi Andrew,
I am afraid it is not possible to select objects inside inkscape from
external python extensions without using dbus or something like that. My
scripting extension knows nothing about inkscape itself, only have access
to the svg document. It is possible to add some metadata with ids of
selected objects to be used later for other extensions, but Inkscape will
ignore them.
If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Cheers,
Frank.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:46 PM Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
On Fri 22 Mar 2019 20:42 -0500, Frank Mart?nez wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have been
> working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, . . .
One question: Have you found a way of selecting an object
after your script runs?
This point bothered me several times and I hope you found a
solution.
Andrew
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7:18 p.m.
Dear Inkscape Friends,
I have pushed the current code to Gitlab, take it as an experiment, the
code is pretty basic, it just works for me and my use cases. There is no
documentation yet but i published it to hear some feedback.
I suspect this kind of functionality can be developed inside inkscape c++
codebase, it is pretty simple, it is just a window to edit code, and a call
to python external interpreter.
My current environment is: Inkscape 0.92.4 and Python 2.7.12
Here is the link to the project (work in progress project):
https://gitlab.com/mnesarco/inkscape-pyscript
Cheers,
Frank D. Martínez. (mnesarco)
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 1:38 PM Frank Martínez <mnesarco@...155...> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I am afraid it is not possible to select objects inside inkscape from
external python extensions without using dbus or something like that. My
scripting extension knows nothing about inkscape itself, only have access
to the svg document. It is possible to add some metadata with ids of
selected objects to be used later for other extensions, but Inkscape will
ignore them.
If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Cheers,
Frank.
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 9:46 PM Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
> On Fri 22 Mar 2019 20:42 -0500, Frank Mart?nez wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > Inkscape is amazing!, I am a professional software developer, I have
> been
> > working in an embedded scripting plugin for Inkscape, . . .
>
>
> One question: Have you found a way of selecting an object
> after your script runs?
>
> This point bothered me several times and I hope you found a
> solution.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
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7:42 p.m.
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Is it something we should add?
<g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
Martin,
8:27 p.m.
Hi Martin, it sounds great!
El mar., 26 de mar. de 2019 2:43 p. m., <doctormo@...155...> escribió:
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Is it something we should add?
<g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
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So I couldn't get code to work with "inkscape:selected" attribute, but
I could get it working with class="selected", so take a look at this
branch/merge request:
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/608
It'll allow any extension to add (but not remove) selected items.
(comment in the Merge request to continue this conversation)
Martin,
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 15:27 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
Hi Martin, it sounds great!
El mar., 26 de mar. de 2019 2:43 p. m., <doctormo@...155...>
escribió:
> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> > If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
>
> Is it something we should add?
>
> <g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
>
> And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and
> cleans
> up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
>
> Martin,
>
>
>
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9:57 p.m.
Yes!
I wished I could do it several different times.
Andrew
On Tue 26 Mar 2019 15:42 -0400, doctormo@...155... wrote:
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Is it something we should add?
<g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
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Digging a little inside inkscape/extensions/ source code at Gitlab, I have
discovered that extensions code have changed a lot from 0.92.4, so I will
have to port the pyscript at some point in near future. By now I will try
to maintain this version because no one knows when new extensions 1.0 will
be released.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 4:58 PM Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
Yes!
I wished I could do it several different times.
Andrew
On Tue 26 Mar 2019 15:42 -0400, doctormo@...155... wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> > If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
>
> Is it something we should add?
>
> <g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
>
> And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
> up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
>
> Martin,
>
>
>
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3:53 a.m.
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 21:22 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
Digging a little inside inkscape/extensions/ source code at Gitlab,
I
have discovered that extensions code have changed a lot from 0.92.4,
so I will have to port the pyscript at some point in near future. By
now I will try to maintain this version because no one knows when
new extensions 1.0 will be released.
It's targeted for release with Inkscape 1.0
3:07 p.m.
Hi Martin,
The work from Thomas at
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/417 looks amazing.
It makes my extension useless :D but I love it.
So, I think I can maintain my extension for (0.92) for some time, but if
the Thomas's works is included soon, there is no need to port my extension
to inkscape 1.0+.
I was reviewing my knowledge of C++ just to do what Thomas is doing already
:D :D :D
Just two things I thing are important to include:
1. Embedded Python code editor with syntax highlight and ideally code
completion.
2. Support to create/edit/execute embeded python scripts in the svg
document itself:
<script type="text/python" id="main">
.....
</script>
Cheers,
Frank.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:53 PM <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 21:22 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> Digging a little inside inkscape/extensions/ source code at Gitlab, I
> have discovered that extensions code have changed a lot from 0.92.4,
> so I will have to port the pyscript at some point in near future. By
> now I will try to maintain this version because no one knows when
> new extensions 1.0 will be released.
It's targeted for release with Inkscape 1.0
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3:14 p.m.
Hi Frank,
I think the feature is going to be held in a queue until Inkscape 1.0
is out the door. But this means it's going to need support, to keep the
branch up to date (sync with master) as well as improve it and refine
it.
It would be great if you could help with this process. Just keep an eye
on it, test it now and then and see if there's anything interesting in
the work you've done (like the embedded script feature) which would be
a good fit to add. In my experience cool ideas happen only when the
force behind them puts the time in to making it happen and you could
create amerge request to merge your ideas into Thomas' branch without
it having to touch master first (this is the advantage of git).
Thanks for looking at the branch too, I was hoping you would find it
exciting!
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Thu, 2019-03-28 at 10:07 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
Hi Martin,
The work from Thomas at
https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/417 looks
amazing.
It makes my extension useless :D but I love it.
So, I think I can maintain my extension for (0.92) for some time, but
if the Thomas's works is included soon, there is no need to port my
extension to inkscape 1.0+.
I was reviewing my knowledge of C++ just to do what Thomas is doing
already :D :D :D
Just two things I thing are important to include:
1. Embedded Python code editor with syntax highlight and ideally code
completion.
2. Support to create/edit/execute embeded python scripts in the svg
document itself:
<script type="text/python" id="main">
.....
</script>
Cheers,
Frank.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:53 PM <doctormo@...155...> wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 21:22 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> > Digging a little inside inkscape/extensions/ source code at
> Gitlab, I
> > have discovered that extensions code have changed a lot from
> 0.92.4,
> > so I will have to port the pyscript at some point in near future.
> By
> > now I will try to maintain this version because no one knows
> when
> > new extensions 1.0 will be released.
>
> It's targeted for release with Inkscape 1.0
>
>
>
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:42:52 -0400
doctormo@...155... wrote:
On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
Is it something we should add?
<g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
Another cool thing about that is that selections survives stops and
restarts in normal Inkscape usage.
SteveT
2:34 a.m.
On Thu 28 Mar 2019 18:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:42:52 -0400
doctormo@...155... wrote:
> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
> > If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
>
> Is it something we should add?
>
> <g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
>
> And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
> up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
Another cool thing about that is that selections survives stops and
restarts in normal Inkscape usage.
SteveT
Steve,
Either you misunderstand or I do.
What I think Martin means is that, at the end of running each
extension, it finds all /selectme/ attributes and makes the
selection from them. We agree there.
But, when he says "cleans up", I take it to mean "immediately
removes the attribute(s) from the SVG." Thus there is nothing
left around to keep in a saved SVG file.
This seems like a required part of the extension-selection
process.
Andrew
3:58 a.m.
Btw. did you know that since Inkscape 0.92.4, Inkscape already tries to
keep selected objects selected, even after running the extension?
This works for modified objects only, not for rendered ones.
Maren
Am 29.03.19 um 03:34 schrieb Andrew Kurn:
On Thu 28 Mar 2019 18:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:42:52 -0400
> doctormo@...155... wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
>>> If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
>>
>> Is it something we should add?
>>
>> <g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
>>
>> And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
>> up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
>
> Another cool thing about that is that selections survives stops and
> restarts in normal Inkscape usage.
>
> SteveT
Steve,
Either you misunderstand or I do.
What I think Martin means is that, at the end of running each
extension, it finds all /selectme/ attributes and makes the
selection from them. We agree there.
But, when he says "cleans up", I take it to mean "immediately
removes the attribute(s) from the SVG." Thus there is nothing
left around to keep in a saved SVG file.
This seems like a required part of the extension-selection
process.
Andrew
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New subject: about selecting after running extension
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 04:58 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Btw. did you know that since Inkscape 0.92.4, Inkscape already tries to
keep selected objects selected, even after running the extension?
No and that's not I want to do anyway.
This works for modified objects only, not for rendered ones.
We had a long talk a while ago about what /rendered/ might
mean. What do you mean here?
Andrew
6:11 a.m.
New subject: about selecting after running extension
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:05:48 -0700
Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 04:58 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
>
> Btw. did you know that since Inkscape 0.92.4, Inkscape already
> tries to keep selected objects selected, even after running the
> extension?
No and that's not I want to do anyway.
===========================================================
About 20 posts back, you began this train of thought with the question:
"Have you found a way of selecting an object after your script runs?"
===========================================================
Did you mean?:
* Select the object(s) the script finished?
* Re-select the objects that were selected when Inkscape closed?
* Enable someone, running Inkscape after your script ran, to select
something?
* Select a random object(s)?
* Something else? If so, please elaborate succinctly and unambiguously.
* Some combination of the preceding?
This entire thread has apparently been built on misunderstandings, so
please be sure not to top post, answer the preceding questions inline,
succinctly, and unambiguously. Once we're all on the same page the
discussion will be much more efficient.
SteveT
7:25 a.m.
New subject: about selecting after running extension
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:05:48 -0700
Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
===========================================================
About 20 posts back, you began this train of thought with the question:
"Have you found a way of selecting an object after your script runs?"
===========================================================
Sorry. Didn't mean to sow confusion.
Did you mean?:
None of the above.
I want the power, as the author of the extension/script to
choose what gets selected when the script finishes. Martin's
suggestion of adding an attribute to those items that I want
to select seems to meet with some approval, so I'm happy to
go with that, if it works for the programmers. Other ways
would also be acceptable.
This entire thread has apparently been built on misunderstandings, so
please be sure not to top post,
While we're at it, what does "top post" mean?
answer the preceding questions inline,
succinctly, and unambiguously. Once we're all on the same page the
discussion will be much more efficient.
I'm not sure I've met the criterion of succinctness, but I
believe my meaning is now unambiguous.
Do you agree, SteveT?
Andrew
7:50 a.m.
New subject: about selecting after running extension
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 00:25:08 -0700
Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>
> This entire thread has apparently been built on misunderstandings,
> so please be sure not to top post,
While we're at it, what does "top post" mean?
Long story: See :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Top-posting
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Bottom-posting
When the article says interleave style can be combined with
top-posting, that's not true in the real world. Only bottom posting is
compatible with interleave style.
Interleave style is by far the least ambiguous. Questions are answered
immediately below the corresponding question. Words like "it" and
"you"
and "I disagree" are absolutely unambiguous in interleave posting,
whereas they're gobbletygoop in top posting, especially when ten people
have responded and their quoted context is still visible.
Top posting is a ball of confusion in a multi party mind meld like a
mailing list, but I've mostly surrendered the war to Microsoft and
Google and all the vendors whose mail clients automatically top post.
Also, top posting (without trimming) is the standard in business
communication in order to keep a running log and promote CYA.
But once in a while, when misunderstanding becomes a way of life in a
thread, I step in to ask people not to top post.
SteveT
7:54 a.m.
New subject: about selecting after running extension
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 00:25:08 -0700
Andrew Kurn <kurn@...3346...> wrote:
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 02:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 21:05:48 -0700
[snip]
> Did you mean?:
>
None of the above.
I want the power, as the author of the extension/script to
choose what gets selected when the script finishes. Martin's
suggestion of adding an attribute to those items that I want
to select seems to meet with some approval, so I'm happy to
go with that, if it works for the programmers. Other ways
would also be acceptable.
[snip]
> answer the preceding questions inline,
> succinctly, and unambiguously. Once we're all on the same page the
> discussion will be much more efficient.
>
I'm not sure I've met the criterion of succinctness, but I
believe my meaning is now unambiguous.
Do you agree, SteveT?
I do, assuming what you mean is that you author an extension or script,
it runs on the SVG file, and then when a human pulls up the SVG
modified by yours script, the objects your script asked to be selected
are signified as selected within the Inkscape program.
SteveT
2:14 p.m.
New subject: about selecting after running extension
Am 29.03.19 um 05:05 schrieb Andrew Kurn:
On Fri 29 Mar 2019 04:58 +0100, Maren Hachmann wrote:
>
> Btw. did you know that since Inkscape 0.92.4, Inkscape already tries to
> keep selected objects selected, even after running the extension?
No and that's not I want to do anyway.
- Ah, it was a possible interpretation.
>
> This works for modified objects only, not for rendered ones.
>
We had a long talk a while ago about what /rendered/ might
mean. What do you mean here?
- Objects that are modified by an extensions exist before the extension
runs. Objects that are rendered by an extension only come into existence
once the extension has been run.
Maren
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Hi, I have published a more interesting example document. It contains
scripting to generate a complete parameterized Guitar Neck profile. I use
this to laser cut templates.
The document is in the repo:
https://gitlab.com/mnesarco/inkscape-pyscript/blob/master/pyscript_sample...
But also attached for general interest (if exists).
Cheers,
Frank.
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 10:59 PM Maren Hachmann <maren@...3112...>
wrote:
Btw. did you know that since Inkscape 0.92.4, Inkscape already tries
to
keep selected objects selected, even after running the extension?
This works for modified objects only, not for rendered ones.
Maren
Am 29.03.19 um 03:34 schrieb Andrew Kurn:
> On Thu 28 Mar 2019 18:29 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 15:42:52 -0400
>> doctormo@...155... wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2019-03-26 at 13:38 -0500, Frank Martínez wrote:
>>>> If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
>>>
>>> Is it something we should add?
>>>
>>> <g inkscape:selectme="true">...</g>
>>>
>>> And Inkscape selects such things after running extensions (and cleans
>>> up the attribute). It could be added I think very easily.
>>
>> Another cool thing about that is that selections survives stops and
>> restarts in normal Inkscape usage.
>>
>> SteveT
>
> Steve,
>
> Either you misunderstand or I do.
>
> What I think Martin means is that, at the end of running each
> extension, it finds all /selectme/ attributes and makes the
> selection from them. We agree there.
>
> But, when he says "cleans up", I take it to mean "immediately
> removes the attribute(s) from the SVG." Thus there is nothing
> left around to keep in a saved SVG file.
>
> This seems like a required part of the extension-selection
> process.
>
> Andrew
>
>
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10:27 p.m.
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019 13:38:58 -0500
Frank Martínez <mnesarco@...155...> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
I am afraid it is not possible to select objects inside inkscape from
external python extensions without using dbus or something like that.
Please don't use dbus. Architecturally it's a mess, and from time to
time I see real world practical problems caused by that architecture.
Plus, when tracking a problem, I like to easily discern who gave wrong
info to whom, rather than tracing every message through a single
switchtrack (fan in, fan out).
My scripting extension knows nothing about inkscape itself, only
have
access to the svg document.
Nice: Uber modularity. Everyone should do this.
It is possible to add some metadata with
ids of selected objects to be used later for other extensions, but
Inkscape will ignore them.
If it's *that* important (which I don't think it is), then Inkscape
could be changed slightly to read your special metadata.
If I am wrong about this, please show me the light ;)
An earlier poster asked "Have you found a way of selecting an
object after your script runs?" That's ambiguous. Select a random
object(s)? Select the object(s) your script changed? Re-select the
objects that were selected when Inkscape closed? Enable someone running
Inkscape after your script ran to select something? Those are very
different questions with very different answers.
If the request is to highlight the objects your script changed, for the
purpose of letting the human Inkscape operator check and modify, I
think it would suffice for your script to create a run log that
identifies changes made.
SteveT
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