Hello, everyone! I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape developers for making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format. Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are SVG enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is very easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. I've made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at http://far.no/svg/web.svg Yours sincerely, Haakon Meland Eriksen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of the box !

On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote: > Thibaut Raballand wrote: >> I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of >> the box ! >> > > They are. It's called Flash. They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have Flash installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and I've never come across any useful information in a Flash animation. -- "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He doesn't use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, like 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, really, I ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh Corner' ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. I will test it later in Konqueror.

Jeffrey Brent McBeth wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:09:49PM -0700, Benjamin Huot wrote: > >> The SVG site works in latest Opera and Firefox, but not latest >> Safari. Safari just downloads the SVG file. >> I will test it later in Konqueror. >> > > I just tried it in Konqueror 3.5.5, and it works fine. > Great! I have come across some problems with my "Hello World"-example: 1. While the main text is created with the <text> tag, menues and headers are drawn paths. I thought the other fonts spiced things up a bit, but had to use the to paths function to keep them looking like that. Personally, I believe the best way around this problem is to recreate font-families as stylesheets. Why require the browser to have access to a special font, when you could simply style Courier or whatever? You could have one UTF-8 font, and then style it with kerning and so on anyway you like. There is probably some good technical reason this is not done. :-) 2. Selecting text is not possible in Mozilla Firefox 2.x - this is just as bad as Flash. Have anyone tried this in Opera, Safari or Konqueror? 3. The transparent menu boxes are clickable, but the path underneath is not. A designer friend pointed this out to me. The text path is below the transparent box, so why is the arrow interacting with it? At first, I added the xlink to text path, but then you could only click on the path it self, which is hard to do. So the transparent boxes on top are a work-around, which almost works. Is there some way to specify a clickable bounding box around the text path? I imagine this would make the text path easy to click, and no extra objects would be needed. 4. If the title had been text, and not a path, how would I go about marking it as such aka a classic HTML <title>-tag? If you look at the example using Firefox 2, you will notice there is no title in the title bar of your browser. This slows down bookmarking and indexing. Is there some way to do this today? Well, those were the most obvious once to me. I'm sure you have spotted other problems whilst developing your own SVG-sites. :-) Cheers, Haakon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$$ for buying Flash from Macromedia? --- Benjamin Huot <benjaminhuot@...1263...> wrote: > Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and > most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 > has past 90% install base. > But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still > have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully > OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future. > > On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote: > > >> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote: >> >>> Thibaut Raballand wrote: >>> >>>> I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant out of >>>> the box ! >>>> >>>> >>> They are. It's called Flash. >>> >> They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser >> installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have >> Flash >> installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and >> I've >> never come across any useful information in a Flash animation. >> >> -- >> "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He >> doesn't >> use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, >> like >> 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, >> really, I >> ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh >> Corner' >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-user mailing list >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

Yes, but isn't content creation for Flash pretty much tied to either Windows or a Mac (no linux...unless you want to jump through a buncha hoops), and the $$ $ for buying Flash from Macromedia? --- Benjamin Huot <benjaminhuot@...1263...> wrote: > Flash comes pre-installed on all Macs, most commercial Linuxes, and > most PCs, so it is likely people will have it. I think Flash Player 8 > has past 90% install base. > But I do welcome SVG for those who have the right browsers. I still > have to test the SVG website with Safari and Opera. Hopefully > OpenLazslo will support SVG in the near future. > > On May 31, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Daniel Hulme wrote: > >> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 12:57:09PM -0500, Dave Niezabitowski wrote: >>> Thibaut Raballand wrote: >>>> I'm waiting the time when all browsers will be SVG compliant >>>> out of >>>> the box ! >>>> >>> >>> They are. It's called Flash. >> They don't come with Flash ootb, thank heavens. All of the browser >> installations I use draw SVGs, more or less, but none of them have >> Flash >> installed. Flash is not exactly on from a security standpoint, and >> I've >> never come across any useful information in a Flash animation. >> >> -- >> "I like talking to Rabbit. He talks about sensible things. He >> doesn't >> use long, difficult words, like Owl. He uses short, easy words, >> like >> 'What about lunch?' and 'Help yourself, Pooh.' I suppose, >> really, I >> ought to go and see Rabbit." A. A. Milne, 'The House at Pooh >> Corner' >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-user mailing list >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

I drew my last website design in Inkscape but I exported to PNGs for a number of reasons. http://www.nsfilms.com/test.html

excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users On May 31, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote: > Hello, everyone! > > I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape > developers for > making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an > important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format. > > Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are > SVG > enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only > Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is > very > easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. > I've > made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at > > http://far.no/svg/web.svg > > Yours sincerely, > Haakon Meland Eriksen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

i believe inkscape has a web color pallete. button at the lower right of your app. heathenx

thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of my stylesheets.

Benjamin Huot wrote: > thanks, although that only has 22 colors. The web safe colors have > about 200 colors. That would not be enough for me to match colors of > my stylesheets. There are two web safe palettes. WebSafe22 and WebHex. But if you find that they do not fill your needs, you could make a palette that fits your needs exactly. At the moment we share palette formats with Gimp. The format is simple. Aaron Spike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

GIMP (and also the new version of Scribus, I believe) has an interesting feature called Display Filters. The filters simulate several vision problems and different screen settings. This way, the designer may test if a given color set is going to be easily viewable in any screen by any person (or sort of...). Maybe it would be interesting to add a feature like that to Inkscape... Just by 3 cents :) Victor Domingos (inkscaping from Braga, Portugal) http://lojamac.com/blog

is there some way to use stylesheets with SVG or if we could get web safe color palette available for Inkscape, that would make it much easier to use for web design. That is one thing I like about Mac OS X Carbon and Cocoa applications, because they have a web safe color palette. On May 31, 2007, at 10:11 AM, Benjamin Huot wrote: > excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to > work on it? > I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users > > On May 31, 2007, at 4:35 AM, Haakon Meland Eriksen wrote: > > >> Hello, everyone! >> >> I'm new to the list, and would like to thank the Inkscape >> developers for >> making great free (as in freedom) software and for promoting an >> important open standard, SVG, as the drawing format. >> >> Konqueror 3.5.x ( and Apple's Safari?) and Mozilla Firefox 2.x are >> SVG >> enabled, which means children can now draw their web site using only >> Inkscape and put the linked SVG files directly on the web. This is >> very >> easy, a lot of fun, and I find the results are colourful and vivid. >> I've >> made a simple example - would you like to see? Take a look at >> >> http://far.no/svg/web.svg >> >> Yours sincerely, >> Haakon Meland Eriksen >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express >> Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take >> control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. >> http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-user mailing list >> Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-user mailing list Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user

excellent idea - is there any way you can get simple animations to work on it? I'll see if I can work this in for my non-Internet Explorer users

Opera have some nice SVG tutorial for web stuff, but none deal directly with Inkscape - http://dev.opera.com/articles/svg/ Here's an example that's quite neat - http://devfiles.myopera.com/articles/61/ex7-gallery.xhtml One issue I've had with SVG files is how to display them in a HTML file. It was a while ago that I tried, and I think my issue was that I couldn't work with it as easily as with a bitmapped image. I couldn't scale the size which is kinda strange since that's the advantage of vector over bitmap.