
Greetings Among all the good things I found in Inkscape one is that it's very easy to use. But more important it looks easy, so even my 12 years brother took a chance to try drawing vec toons on it with some amount of success (he never did with Corel). This leaded me to think that an Inkscape version for kids (5+) would be a great project. Some changes would be neccessary, such as changing the GUI to make it more more children-friendly (vector eds, like most apps, usually resemble ATMs) by fitting children's tastes, you know, and also removing most complicated features and options. Now, why taking the task? 1) Inkscape would be the first vec ed doing it AFAIK 2) Coming generations would probably try it prior to any other vec ed, thus getting more familiar with it, thus spreading Inkscape 3) It could give Inkscape very good advertising and lots of great chances 4) It would be a great service I translate for some kid orgs so I know where this project could find audience and fit nicely. It's I pity I can't work on it because I have little or no skills on coding and alike stuff at all. It's just a suggestion for all of us to discuss, and perhaps dragging me back to Earth - Come if you dare ;-) God bless you all

Methinks that this is a terribly Good Idea. On many levels: giving kids a useful and worthwhile tool for creative expression, promoting the adult version of Inkscape... And I would be willing to help out with such a project--I could not do any coding or be responsible for builds, but I could give a lot of assistance with regard to the documentation. Also, such a thing (a kidscape version of Inkscape) should be localized, of course, for languages other than English.
Jim Jones
-----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Zelus et Radix Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:21 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Kidscape (suggestion)
Greetings Among all the good things I found in Inkscape one is that it's very easy to use. But more important it looks easy, so even my 12 years brother took a chance to try drawing vec toons on it with some amount of success (he never did with Corel). This leaded me to think that an Inkscape version for kids (5+) would be a great project. Some changes would be neccessary, such as changing the GUI to make it more more children-friendly (vector eds, like most apps, usually resemble ATMs) by fitting children's tastes, you know, and also removing most complicated features and options. Now, why taking the task? 1) Inkscape would be the first vec ed doing it AFAIK 2) Coming generations would probably try it prior to any other vec ed, thus getting more familiar with it, thus spreading Inkscape 3) It could give Inkscape very good advertising and lots of great chances 4) It would be a great service I translate for some kid orgs so I know where this project could find audience and fit nicely. It's I pity I can't work on it because I have little or no skills on coding and alike stuff at all. It's just a suggestion for all of us to discuss, and perhaps dragging me back to Earth - Come if you dare ;-)..

That's it, thanks Jim! I forgot offering my work for translating (into Spanish) and distributing (I've collaborated with Kidlink which is one of the largest worldwide kid nets).
On Feb 19, 2008 12:27 PM, technical writing plus <doc-x@...99...> wrote:
Methinks that this is a terribly Good Idea. On many levels: giving kids a useful and worthwhile tool for creative expression, promoting the adult version of Inkscape... And I would be willing to help out with such a project--I could not do any coding or be responsible for builds, but I could give a lot of assistance with regard to the documentation. Also, such a thing (a kidscape version of Inkscape) should be localized, of course, for languages other than English.
Jim Jones
-----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Zelus et Radix Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:21 AM To: inkscape-user@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-user] Kidscape (suggestion)
Greetings Among all the good things I found in Inkscape one is that it's very easy to use. But more important it looks easy, so even my 12 years brother took a chance to try drawing vec toons on it with some amount of success (he never did with Corel). This leaded me to think that an Inkscape version for kids (5+) would be a great project. Some changes would be neccessary, such as changing the GUI to make it more more children-friendly (vector eds, like most apps, usually resemble ATMs) by fitting children's tastes, you know, and also removing most complicated features and options. Now, why taking the task?
- Inkscape would be the first vec ed doing it AFAIK
- Coming generations would probably try it prior to any other vec ed,
thus getting more familiar with it, thus spreading Inkscape 3) It could give Inkscape very good advertising and lots of great chances 4) It would be a great service I translate for some kid orgs so I know where this project could find audience and fit nicely. It's I pity I can't work on it because I have little or no skills on coding and alike stuff at all. It's just a suggestion for all of us to discuss, and perhaps dragging me back to Earth - Come if you dare ;-)..
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Ocetalo,
As I said, I feel that this 'kidscape' thing is a good idea. I'd help with whatever parts of implementing the idea that I could. I do technical editing, writing, and illustration, and cartooning. And I translate, but only into English (I do Chinese, German, and Spanish into English).
Another thing is related to how the Inkscape project would approach the problem of marketing a childrens version. In my opinion, a little research into how those users would use such a version, and how the project should go about trying to promote the new version to those users (I'd imagine that your network might well become a part of that), would be most important.
There is a feature or enhancement request pipeline that the organizers of this e-mail forum occasionally tell users about, but I don't know anything about how to access it. I would suppose that somebody might have suggested such an interesting and provocative idea before - probably not, though.
Jim Jones
-----Original Message----- From: inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:inkscape-user-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Ocetalo Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:42 AM To: Inkscape User Community Subject: Re: [Inkscape-user] Kidscape (suggestion)
That's it, thanks Jim! I forgot offering my work for translating (into Spanish) and distributing (I've collaborated with Kidlink which is one of the largest worldwide kid nets). On Feb 19, 2008 12:27 PM, technical writing plus <doc-x@...99...> wrote: Methinks that this is a terribly Good Idea. On many levels: giving kids a useful and worthwhile tool for creative expression, promoting the adult version of Inkscape...

On 2008-February-19 , at 19:00 , technical writing plus wrote:
Ocetalo,
As I said, I feel that this 'kidscape' thing is a good idea. I'd help with whatever parts of implementing the idea that I could. I do technical editing, writing, and illustration, and cartooning. And I translate, but only into English (I do Chinese, German, and Spanish into English).
Another thing is related to how the Inkscape project would approach the problem of marketing a childrens version. In my opinion, a little research into how those users would use such a version, and how the project should go about trying to promote the new version to those users (I'd imagine that your network might well become a part of that), would be most important.
There is a feature or enhancement request pipeline that the organizers of this e-mail forum occasionally tell users about, but I don't know anything about how to access it. I would suppose that somebody might have suggested such an interesting and provocative idea before - probably not, though.
For such large projects you can use a Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/ so that the discussion has a permanent home. Please summarize your emails there and develop your ideas. These pages are meant to be developed in time, adding ideas, interface mockups etc.
I would also like to see Inkscape modified this way. Was there not already something done for the One Laptop Per Child project?
JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

Thank you, Jiho
Excuse my ignorance. I know you must be busy but could you please give some step by step explanation on how to summarize these mails and start that blueprint? Advice would be much appreciated.
On Feb 19, 2008 3:13 PM, jiho <jo.irisson@...155...> wrote:
On 2008-February-19 , at 19:00 , technical writing plus wrote:
Ocetalo,
As I said, I feel that this 'kidscape' thing is a good idea. I'd help with whatever parts of implementing the idea that I could. I do technical editing, writing, and illustration, and cartooning. And I translate, but only into English (I do Chinese, German, and Spanish into English).
Another thing is related to how the Inkscape project would approach the problem of marketing a childrens version. In my opinion, a little research into how those users would use such a version, and how the project should go about trying to promote the new version to those users (I'd imagine that your network might well become a part of that), would be most important.
There is a feature or enhancement request pipeline that the organizers of this e-mail forum occasionally tell users about, but I don't know anything about how to access it. I would suppose that somebody might have suggested such an interesting and provocative idea before - probably not, though.
For such large projects you can use a Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/inkscape/ so that the discussion has a permanent home. Please summarize your emails there and develop your ideas. These pages are meant to be developed in time, adding ideas, interface mockups etc.
I would also like to see Inkscape modified this way. Was there not already something done for the One Laptop Per Child project?
JiHO
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On 2008-February-19 , at 21:26 , Ocetalo wrote:
Thank you, Jiho
Excuse my ignorance. I know you must be busy but could you please give some step by step explanation on how to summarize these mails and start that blueprint? Advice would be much appreciated.
I don't know much more than you do, just that blueprints exists and are meant for this kind of stuff. To start a new one you must probably login to launchpad (so you must create an account first if you don't have one) then I guess there's a new button somewhere. As for summarizing your emails, well just re-read them and try to make them smaller ;)
JiHO --- http://jo.irisson.free.fr/

OK, Jiho I understand. God bless you.
On Feb 19, 2008 4:27 PM, jiho <jo.irisson@...155...> wrote:
On 2008-February-19 , at 21:26 , Ocetalo wrote:
Thank you, Jiho
Excuse my ignorance. I know you must be busy but could you please give some step by step explanation on how to summarize these mails and start that blueprint? Advice would be much appreciated.
I don't know much more than you do, just that blueprints exists and are meant for this kind of stuff. To start a new one you must probably login to launchpad (so you must create an account first if you don't have one) then I guess there's a new button somewhere. As for summarizing your emails, well just re-read them and try to make them smaller ;)
JiHO
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