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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 8 Messages, 0 Files, 1110981 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: michele & scottyp
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21
30 Apr '21
2019-03-20 05-11-58 PDT Michèle Thibeau As for the funds, I am fairly new to the project and am just learning about the financials, too. No idea how many people are being paid on the project. Not sure anyone is other than the odd piece of work - but that's my vague understanding. I am in Canada, and therefore not up to speed on American not-for-profit laws. That said, is the project less formal than Krita, in terms of its legal entity status? Very good point, though, and one that I will bring up when I see an opportunity. We've opened the ball of wax now - and I believe that your input has and will enable some new points of view to be on the table. Thanks, Scott! 2019-03-19 04-44-02 PDT Michèle Thibeau Hi Scott! I wanted to thank you for joining in the Watch Party conversation on Saturday! I really appreciated your questions and input. Just finished watching your SCALE presentation and you mentioned so much that I think would be useful for folks here at Inkscape to ponder. The presentation was really hard to make out in the video, so I was wondering if it would be possible to have a PDF version of it to help me better understand? Thanks so much! Loved your ideas on marketing and on collecting and using data. Looking forward to discussions in the future. Have an awesome week! 2019-03-20 05-08-06 PDT Michèle Thibeau [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/scottyp?msg=8Mi8jfjFZj2EzuZRN) Thanks, Scott! I was at work and then not feeling well last evening. Trying to catch up. () 2019-03-19 06-14-21 PDT Scott Petrovic actually looking through the mailing list that bryce sent...it looks like you guys just aren't spending much money 2019-03-19 06-18-27 PDT Scott Petrovic Europe has a lot stricter laws for non-profits. If Krita doesn't spend the money they make with donations and such, they lose their non-profit status 2019-03-19 06-10-57 PDT Scott Petrovic I am talking to some of the other devs on the Krita IRC and we are questioning some things. It appears that you guys are generating twice the money that Krita is. How many people are you currently paying to work on Inkscape? 2019-03-19 06-17-41 PDT Scott Petrovic your bank account balance is twice what Krita's is 2019-03-19 06-02-28 PDT Scott Petrovic Sure. It was great talking with some of the inkscape people at SCALE and seeing how a larger open source project is ran. For the presentation here are the slides... https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/sites/default/files/presentations/How%20We%2…
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[Webmaster] Rocket.Chat, 2 Users, 393 Messages, 11 Files, 559182 Minutes, in Direct Message Between: jhofinger & vanntile
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21
by no-reply＠chat.inkscape.org 30 Apr '21
30 Apr '21
2020-07-26 02-30-38 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, well, that's quite funny for me. That is not part of moving dialogs, it's actually from the xml dialog itself 2020-07-26 02-04-57 PDT Valentin Ionita hey, thank you. I have just pushed recently, you're on the latest? 2020-07-26 02-14-14 PDT Valentin Ionita It will not stay that way, but I am thinking that it looks better than how it was before. And has other small advantages 2020-07-27 01-52-58 PDT Valentin Ionita Will add it now, tho 2020-07-26 02-31-50 PDT Valentin Ionita I don't know what it is, but definitely not from me 2020-07-26 02-58-57 PDT Valentin Ionita I will stick around for bugfixes, tho 2020-07-26 02-57-56 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, but there are lots of things that need fixing or improving 2020-07-26 02-44-25 PDT Valentin Ionita I know, I would like to be able to do all these features, but I work with the Gtk API and I can't actually make them work 2020-07-26 02-07-01 PDT Valentin Ionita I don't even see the menu 2020-08-02 23-37-47 PDT Valentin Ionita Can you show me the minimum size you can now collapse a dialog? 2020-08-12 22-11-58 PDT Valentin Ionita Right now my next step is removing the sidebar you are all talking about 2020-07-26 02-13-23 PDT Valentin Ionita I am trying now to make it theme agnostic 2020-07-31 08-54-14 PDT Valentin Ionita Probably, write on dev. I don't know 2020-08-12 06-46-22 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=6Y4cr224oLTGi6M6E) size increasing automatically is something you need to give up for snapping to 0 size and scrolling. You can only have one () 2020-07-27 02-45-13 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 3) that's literally from the theme used. I know that a lot of themes look like that, but I don't have a theme-agnostic solution yet () 2020-07-26 02-46-56 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=xgHJNh8K662SzLouZ) this could be a feature. () 2020-07-26 02-18-42 PDT Valentin Ionita afaik, they shouldn't be resizable under a width 2020-07-26 02-05-30 PDT Valentin Ionita For example: open the layers and objects panels 2020-08-12 09-35-40 PDT Valentin Ionita ... this was obviously not something that is documented. 2020-07-26 02-55-54 PDT Valentin Ionita I already reimpllemented Gtk::Paned completely, and Gtk::Expander partially 2020-08-12 07-24-49 PDT Valentin Ionita no, it doesn't. that's what I'm saying 2020-08-02 23-32-26 PDT Valentin Ionita ok, thank you, I couldn't figure it out. Windows 2020-08-02 23-28-38 PDT Valentin Ionita 2. is actually bug 2
3. is actually not implemented. It's feature 3, I guess 2020-07-26 02-18-21 PDT Valentin Ionita can you make a ss for me? 2020-08-13 02-14-50 PDT Valentin Ionita PS, I rebased. 2020-07-26 10-04-58 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=NkFjCJTXTGRcihL2Y) This can't be solved, at least like you said. Interacting with a window in any way connects the dialogs to it. I have other ideas, but unless I get a code review on desktop and window management, I won't focus on it at all. () 2020-08-12 07-23-42 PDT Valentin Ionita You must understand that I have made a number of compromises until here, guided by the group. If I need to change something majorly now, even if I will do it or not, I will not be pleased about it 2020-08-13 02-33-14 PDT Valentin Ionita I have had my own problems trying to apply a similar pattern in other cases. I'm not sure if I can do it, somebody else will. I'll backlog it for now 2020-08-12 06-50-43 PDT Valentin Ionita a recording would help me understand 2020-04-05 09-21-36 PDT Valentin Ionita No need for you to worry right now. 2020-08-02 23-38-10 PDT Valentin Ionita I want to check if I can cross bugs 22 and 23 2020-07-26 02-23-36 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you for your feedback. 2020-08-02 22-28-55 PDT Valentin Ionita And your help. Especially your help 2020-07-26 03-27-38 PDT Valentin Ionita I honestly don't know. What is an instance, for you? If it's one time running Inkscape, what if I want two Inkscape windows and each with its own fill&stroke 2020-07-26 02-24-53 PDT Valentin Ionita But you can resize it, right? 2020-08-13 02-26-25 PDT Valentin Ionita I am sure it will. It's a compromise... 2020-07-26 03-04-40 PDT Valentin Ionita totally functional independent window, right? :laughing: 2020-07-26 10-10-52 PDT Valentin Ionita Thanks, you're so forward thinking 2020-08-12 06-45-42 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=br7PYKFTuHbfnuAAK) I know of it, not necessarily my fault. It's just a bit of how Tav's and my code interact. Not critical () 2020-07-26 02-23-26 PDT Valentin Ionita yep. Will give it a thought. 2020-07-27 01-56-31 PDT Valentin Ionita Actually my initial plan/timeline included "polishing" week/weeks 2020-08-02 22-28-45 PDT Valentin Ionita I appreciate your message 2020-07-26 02-52-03 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, I think it is. However, using debug windows (in ubuntu), I can see that there is a way of keeping them in front. I wonder what that is ... 2020-08-13 02-21-31 PDT Valentin Ionita With that I agree completely. 2020-04-05 09-20-42 PDT Valentin Ionita Currently, when I don't format the pattern file properly, on my end it crashes formidably. But I'll take my time testing. Thank you for the heads up 2020-07-27 02-54-00 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=nQCCnGmPSptCtz7Tu) If I did, i am unaware of it. I really don't think so. () 2020-07-26 02-26-13 PDT Valentin Ionita yep 2020-07-26 02-58-30 PDT Valentin Ionita That's a good thing. I'm glad 2020-08-12 07-22-52 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=P4vuKgaG2GzZ6oYg7) please write this on the dev channel () 2020-08-12 09-20-17 PDT Valentin Ionita Related to your question about popping a dialog by dragging the tab, the lines that interest you are in the following function (and potentially the one above it, tho I doubt it) https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/blob/docking-system-copy/src/ui/dial… 2020-04-05 09-24-03 PDT Valentin Ionita Oh, well, our issues are migrated to gitlab, but I will find the according request 2020-04-05 09-27-20 PDT Valentin Ionita No it couldn't as far as I know. The paint server is not loaded :( 2020-07-27 00-52-19 PDT Valentin Ionita Right now I'm working on a fix for scrolling when a dialog notebook is collapsed 2020-07-26 02-31-59 PDT Valentin Ionita I guess you can drag objects there???? 2020-07-27 01-48-32 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=Ewyk4P53BuosvmjCb) Wow, this is so unexpected. I will add to the list of known issues, because I have no idea why it's happening. () 2020-07-26 02-54-26 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=ttcBgb2eL43nQyiqa) not possible, believe me. I would need to reimplement the whole notebook widget from scratch () 2020-07-26 02-48-47 PDT Valentin Ionita And I don't think I will 2020-07-26 02-54-31 PDT Valentin Ionita And i just don't know how 2020-07-26 02-43-21 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=FdfJzMysT3zuXoC74) This works on Wayland, and not on X11. Know we know it doesn't work on Windows () 2020-08-13 02-19-27 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=TrYP4abYC7Pi33Wdb) right now, no. I will give links to the ux team for testing as soon as the windows pipeline finishes () 2020-07-26 06-30-28 PDT Valentin Ionita Hello, again. Don't want to abuse your time, just wanted to let you know I have already fixed a few things (look at the list here: https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape-gsoc-2020/-/blob/master/TODO.md) 2020-08-02 23-21-18 PDT Valentin Ionita Look, they are not "collapsing" anymore. It's just that you can resize them 2020-04-05 09-56-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=fkE6Gm8QKELCKcztx) I will certainly add it to my list of functionalities to be implemented. Right now it's just a private backlog () 2020-04-05 09-22-04 PDT Valentin Ionita Yes, I will try to document the small number of features it has. 2020-07-26 02-47-00 PDT Valentin Ionita these things compound 2020-07-26 02-59-01 PDT Valentin Ionita Occasionally 2020-08-13 01-24-27 PDT Valentin Ionita try my latest commit. I did a patch hoping it will fix your problem 2020-04-05 09-55-03 PDT Valentin Ionita So problem solved on your end? I really don't know how your version didn't crash. I had an operation which was dependent on the title tag 2020-07-26 02-05-18 PDT Valentin Ionita if so, you could try to focus on trying expanding and minimizing dialogs. 2020-07-26 02-25-40 PDT Valentin Ionita That's a size allocation algorithm written by me running in the background. I build it on previous specs, which are not totally user-friendly. I will deffer this task until I fix other bugs 2020-04-05 09-51-05 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, so I have tested a bit and now I am ready for a round of questions and answers. But first, let me tell you how it works on my end. The .svg file you provided makes my Inkscape crash when I put it into the paint folder. However, if I add a *title* tag, it runs and add a new page to the paint servers dialog with the title used. Now, what are you precisely doing? 2020-08-02 23-22-15 PDT Valentin Ionita Now we are a bit biased, because we have experienced "collapsing". But for someone who can only resize the notebooks, it shouldn't be that obtrusive that there is scrolling 2020-07-26 02-22-50 PDT Valentin Ionita I will try to do something, but that thing in blender is quite complex (Sorry, I don't feel as powerful with Gtk as I feel with web technologies) 2020-07-27 02-47-11 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=pKBbhWdEKkmd5jbX5) I really don't understand how the things work. I will ask at the next gsoc meeting () 2020-07-26 03-03-01 PDT Valentin Ionita Well, it make sense. I have never tried using them. 2020-08-12 11-38-51 PDT Valentin Ionita Nevermind, I haven't seen this link you sent me when I wrote that 2020-07-26 02-05-45 PDT Valentin Ionita and the reconfigure, and use the arrow to make them smaller and larger 2020-08-13 02-22-12 PDT Valentin Ionita It is not my best work (from "what you can see"), because I was restricted and hit in the guts so many times by Gtk, but i tried to make it my best work from the code point of view. 2020-07-26 02-58-44 PDT Valentin Ionita 4-5 weeks 2020-07-27 02-51-05 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=2ZGP4uzjpsJd8iZGX) Oh, I guess it receives the keyboard events. Obviously. I'll have to ask how to send them to the main window or ... () 2020-08-02 23-31-08 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, cool 2020-07-27 02-47-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=25PiwtqSHyGrxvXka) No idea, but will add it to the list () 2020-07-26 02-07-07 PDT Valentin Ionita Is that even possible? 2020-08-12 06-49-22 PDT Valentin Ionita I see it's a cross-platform bug, now that I am aware of it, will check it 2020-07-27 02-43-27 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 1) and it won't be for a while. It needs to stay a stable feature. The strings are already tagged for translation, afaik () 2020-08-13 00-22-49 PDT Valentin Ionita Put it on public. I'll comment there 2020-07-26 02-08-27 PDT Valentin Ionita oh, wow 2020-07-26 02-18-47 PDT Valentin Ionita it might be a bug 2020-07-26 03-13-43 PDT Valentin Ionita how did you reproduce that. I couldn't find a pattern for it. I did it twice 2020-07-27 01-39-09 PDT Valentin Ionita Can I abuse you a bit and ask you to test right now? I have fixed three things and I think you're gonna like them:
1. a collapsed dialog notebook doesn't scroll anymore
2. a floating dialog stays above the Inkscape window (works on X11)
3. Dialog notebooks are scrollable horizontally and they can be snapped until the edge, so you get the most out of your space 2020-04-05 09-57-22 PDT Valentin Ionita It's still an incomplete feature. However, even incomplete, I see how it could be useful to people 2020-07-27 00-52-35 PDT Valentin Ionita It works, but it still has an animation, somehow 2020-07-26 03-40-04 PDT Valentin Ionita Removing the signals would be ideal (I did it in a couple of them). As an example, there is the Prototype Dialog. 2020-07-27 01-51-50 PDT Valentin Ionita wait, do you mean it doesn't expand for you when it's collapsed and clicking a tab? 2020-07-26 02-08-13 PDT Valentin Ionita Honestly, I just don't think it compiled right 2020-07-26 02-13-42 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=GSMwo5zFjRkve4Fkj) right now, yes, because I don't know how to remove that behavior. Yet () 2020-07-26 03-07-35 PDT Valentin Ionita Can you record it? 2020-07-26 03-17-27 PDT Valentin Ionita whaaaat? strange 2020-08-02 23-20-41 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=nCagaPrzQCk5vSzih) you're right () 2020-04-05 09-56-16 PDT Valentin Ionita I will take my time in the next couple of days to do that. 2020-07-26 02-52-25 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=CFAJ3dtvZgjtPzyRC) well, scrolling would clash with this. definitely () 2020-08-13 03-37-18 PDT Valentin Ionita And thank you a lot for the thorough testing until now. 2020-07-26 06-30-58 PDT Valentin Ionita The code is on my latest pipeline, as always. https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/pipelines/170877664 2020-07-26 03-39-30 PDT Valentin Ionita The whole purpose of this way of writing dialogs I have done is not having signale that track the desktop at all. Because all dialogs get updated (a callback) whenever the document changes, the active window changes or the selection changes. 2020-08-02 23-39-09 PDT Valentin Ionita They look sensible, I think I can cross them 2020-07-26 02-32-07 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=fqga8mcLx6vwhfXDw) me neither () 2020-08-12 22-08-14 PDT Valentin Ionita Hey, I am fixing the bugs from last night. I have already fixed the first two and now I'm trying to understand what you did with the windows things to make it work... partially 2020-07-27 01-54-47 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks, I was stressed out by what you said and it motivated me 2020-07-26 03-05-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=yWFXvy5P6A9hxjaGe) this seems normal to me () 2020-07-27 02-55-32 PDT Valentin Ionita Because I only tried to make them like that when collapsed 2020-08-02 22-28-27 PDT Valentin Ionita I just want to make things work. I am sad when I am unable to. 2020-07-27 00-08-40 PDT Valentin Ionita Taking your feedback from yesterday into consideration I worked all morning and fixed how closing InkscapeWindows works. Now, if you have floating dialogs and multiple Inkscape windows, if the floating dialogs are attached to the windows you are trying to close, they will focus on another InkscapeWindow, if it exist. If there is only one, then they will close also. I think this is the best state of the micro-feature, I don't plan on changing it again. 2020-07-26 02-43-50 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=t8p7xjK62JhYDdFxr) same kind of argument as above () 2020-08-02 23-20-15 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=mc25kbm5rNR4RnTDE) God, it's so annoying. It doesn't always happen to jump down and when I am doing changes and test, it doesn't immediately show and I think I solved it.... () 2020-07-27 02-45-43 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=662TtwDhQpN4AQ6Z9) That is a mistake that I will have to correct. Thanks, will add it to the list () 2020-08-13 02-18-53 PDT Valentin Ionita save god 2020-07-26 03-41-38 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, removing signals would help the app itself. 2020-08-02 22-27-24 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you so much :pray: 2020-07-27 01-53-20 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=aHKYfDLeCnJPnBcL9) oh, got it, will try to find out a way to fix it () 2020-07-26 02-06-09 PDT Valentin Ionita (It worked perfectly on my theme, but I guess I need to make them independent) 2020-07-26 10-06-31 PDT Valentin Ionita Sure, will have a list of those, then 2020-07-27 01-56-05 PDT Valentin Ionita I like to work fast :) 2020-07-26 10-07-30 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=T9TWNFdXejmbsfapr) Definitely from Tav (as he has been the main driver since the beginning. We worked together last year also, so we're familiar with each other). For the others, more recently I had enough help. At the beginning, not so much () 2020-08-12 06-51-09 PDT Valentin Ionita These two bugs 2020-08-12 07-29-07 PDT Valentin Ionita This is so close to me being finished with it, and if there are major problems, talk aloud and stop the merge. 2020-07-27 02-44-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=LnmHM3yf7facbKjMx) 2) just like in the menu, I haven't done a mistake, just that I want to keep things uniform. If many people complain, I'll ask for a solution () 2020-08-13 02-18-55 PDT Valentin Ionita at last 2020-07-27 01-52-06 PDT Valentin Ionita for the moment 2020-04-05 09-19-14 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks :smile: 2020-07-26 02-14-32 PDT Valentin Ionita ok, this I didn't know. will note down 2020-08-12 06-50-59 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, could you please mention the bugs on the dev channel? 2020-07-26 03-38-28 PDT Valentin Ionita I actually haven't customised every dialog to work with the new DialogBase. I only barely changed some of them, for them to work as they were before. 2020-08-02 22-29-34 PDT Valentin Ionita Actually, right now I have an idea of how to fix an UX bug. gonna get to work. will read your feedback in a couple of hours 2020-07-26 03-05-08 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=wPCWmkDcaaLLMoTeb) this is problematic () 2020-08-13 00-18-29 PDT Valentin Ionita Yeah, I had a logic mistake. It still has some header rendering issues, but I am definite that those are above my possibilites 2020-04-05 09-54-06 PDT Valentin Ionita you're on the latest build of Inkscape, aren't you? Can you tell me what Help > About Inkscape says? 2020-08-12 09-36-26 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=ND2fbJdk2QiusLFCb) None that I could think of. I would have chosen a single signal instead of two, if there was an alternative () 2020-08-13 02-18-28 PDT Valentin Ionita That's the date of the creation of the first commit form the squashed commits 2020-08-12 06-47-58 PDT Valentin Ionita thanks 2020-08-13 02-20-07 PDT Valentin Ionita THANK you 2020-07-26 02-19-45 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=6xynWWHPkeCGK3XgD) I know, I did too () 2020-07-26 02-13-01 PDT Valentin Ionita yes, I know, I haven't considered that different themes have different heights :cold_sweat: 2020-07-26 02-08-34 PDT Valentin Ionita That's going to be a problem 2020-08-12 06-46-46 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=c7uS9uxsu9pfhvyJk) This sounds like an issue, can you show me? () 2020-04-05 09-58-24 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, thank you for the feedback, have a great evening/night/day 2020-08-13 03-37-33 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=tkASpikw9y8trirJG) I'm always on my laptop 😅 () 2020-07-26 02-31-15 PDT Valentin Ionita you are trying to put a dialog in itself. and it doesn't work. as it should 2020-07-26 02-06-51 PDT Valentin Ionita from the menu. I have no clue why it looks like that on your machine 2020-07-26 03-42-31 PDT Valentin Ionita And my way of writing things has simplified a lot of things, and when the actions would be ready to replace verbs, it would be fairly easy to replace them. (Right now, I can't use actions for the dialogs, I still need verbs) 2020-08-13 01-38-10 PDT Valentin Ionita could you show me? I just can't reproduce it on my machine 2020-07-27 00-51-56 PDT Valentin Ionita Great 2020-08-12 06-45-13 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=wZa5Sf7RBsDb9Y3Xs) this is totally from Gtk, it's so unreliable. I have a solution for X11, one for Wayland, and apparently Windows would need that too. But I am unable to code that, for obvious reasons. () 2020-07-26 02-48-18 PDT Valentin Ionita No, just this rotated, for now 2020-07-27 01-52-54 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=W6SpHwqghScbp5Fji) don't even know how to call it :cold_sweat: () 2020-07-26 02-05-53 PDT Valentin Ionita I already know of some bugs myself 2020-07-26 02-08-22 PDT Valentin Ionita units is still on the repo 2020-07-26 02-50-04 PDT Valentin Ionita I thought of that, but the initial specs were different. So I kept it like this for now 2020-08-13 02-18-05 PDT Valentin Ionita It's a result of how squash rebasses work. Believe me, it's a good one 2020-07-27 01-48-51 PDT Valentin Ionita Also, the scrollbar shouldn't appear but you should be able to scroll if it's under it's minimum size 2020-08-02 22-26-52 PDT Valentin Ionita Hello, I have made some major modifications to the dialogs.
When you have time, can you check if the following bugs (from my TODO list) are still active or finished?
- Bug 16
- Bug 17
- Bug 20
- Bug 22
- Bug 23
I have removed "collapsing/expanding" a dialog, so the following bugs shouldn't be "realistic" anymore:
- Bug 4
- Bug 5
- Bug 8
- Bug 19
2020-07-27 01-54-13 PDT Valentin Ionita Yeah, you're right, just wondering how to unselect tabs :shrug: 2020-07-26 02-08-47 PDT Valentin Ionita I'll note it down. this is helpful, thank you 2020-08-13 03-37-07 PDT Valentin Ionita No worries. Relax. 2020-07-26 02-15-59 PDT Valentin Ionita Thank you. I am glad 2020-07-26 10-10-31 PDT Valentin Ionita 😅 2020-08-12 09-36-03 PDT Valentin Ionita I am not an expert in gtk, I don't know if anyone know anything about this 2020-07-27 01-49-42 PDT Valentin Ionita I haven't tested those and I don't know how they connect to events or even if I have control over it 2020-07-26 02-16-21 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=YgYLnBYn4XaKKx3EJ) This came up with Tav's original mock, and I kept it around :smile: () 2020-07-27 01-52-03 PDT Valentin Ionita I'll add that as a windows bug 2020-08-12 07-28-27 PDT Valentin Ionita Could you please write this all on the public channel? 2020-04-05 09-55-35 PDT Valentin Ionita That sounds great. That means that documentation is needed 2020-07-26 03-09-38 PDT Valentin Ionita Ok, will wait until later and then note everything you said 2020-07-26 10-03-16 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=QpnynfP934iFj7T3m) If you will think for it for a while you will realise there is not actual solution to this () 2020-08-12 22-11-11 PDT Valentin Ionita well, I need to check if there is any crash on wayland currently first 2020-08-13 02-14-39 PDT Valentin Ionita I hate to be so annoying, but whenever you can, a new commit is available. 2020-07-26 02-19-36 PDT Valentin Ionita I am advancing slowly and brewing similar ideas in my head 2020-07-26 03-01-51 PDT Valentin Ionita No, in the demo I have implemented saving, but I haven't had the chance integrating it yet. 2020-07-27 02-55-05 PDT Valentin Ionita [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/jhofinger?msg=97mq5nvHY2mng3PtG) I didn't actually realize you can make a DialogNotebook with height 0. Will change that () 2020-07-26 02-40-51 PDT jhofinger When there are so many dialogs in a notebook that their title buttons define the notebook's min width, maybe collapse the titles automatically 2020-07-26 02-47-44 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:47 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GxiohGZoRdeTnHuNe/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-55-23 PDT jhofinger oh :/ 2020-07-26 03-02-24 PDT jhofinger (currently, that leads to crashes when you do anything in the remaining dialogs) 2020-04-05 09-58-36 PDT jhofinger Have a good day! 2020-07-26 02-12-13 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:12 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/KkgooJthKv2C2LaeR/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-05-25 PDT jhofinger yeah 2020-08-13 01-29-41 PDT jhofinger on main window close2.txt (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/JpD5rtcNm4YoT6kc3/on%20main%20window%…) 2020-08-02 22-27-15 PDT jhofinger Cool, will test! 2020-07-26 03-09-40 PDT jhofinger For the layers dialog (something is wrong with that one), undocking it into a new window gives the window the subtitle "Dialog Window" instead of "Document 1" as for the other dialogs 2020-04-05 09-54-16 PDT jhofinger 1.1-dev (6b4d57f, 2020-04-01) 2020-08-02 23-39-23 PDT jhofinger :thumbup: 2020-07-26 02-15-44 PDT jhofinger also that if you open a dialog again it is highlighted 2020-07-26 03-01-50 PDT jhofinger oh, when you close the main window, dependent dialogs should definitely close 2020-08-12 06-50-24 PDT jhofinger if you can't reproduce, I'll record a bt 2020-07-26 03-32-49 PDT jhofinger do you disconnect the signals when a dialog is closed or hidden? there are some dialogs which cause slowdowns or crashes even without interaction 2020-07-26 02-21-45 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/ss2f1z4ncrwxqu9/2020-07-26%2011-20-32.mkv?dl=0 this is how blender does it 2020-07-27 01-52-51 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=wExsQFHSZrztEbo46) it does, but only if you click the tab that is not currently selected. () 2020-08-02 23-30-45 PDT jhofinger Anyway bug 7 seems to be fixed 2020-07-26 03-26-41 PDT jhofinger I think having a dialog opened twice in the same instance is probably an invitation for a lot of bugs 2020-04-05 09-22-45 PDT jhofinger When you're done, feel free to mark this LP request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/183535 as fix committed :) 2020-08-12 06-44-17 PDT jhofinger - I get a console message SPDesktop::getInkscapeWindow: Failed to get window. everytime i close inkscape
2020-08-12 06-46-11 PDT jhofinger If you have two dialogs next to each other in an undocked window, dragging the right one below the left one closes the window 2020-07-26 03-20-57 PDT jhofinger this was a different way of replication 2020-08-12 22-09-37 PDT jhofinger As I said, it's not documented anywhere. 2020-07-26 03-07-04 PDT jhofinger Oh this is strange: I just reopened Inkscape and tried to open a dialog again: the text disappeared but nothing else happened. Then I minimized the window and maximized it again, and the dialog was there 2020-07-27 00-19-29 PDT jhofinger That sounds perfect. Will test 😊 2020-07-26 03-13-26 PDT jhofinger oh wow, that's weird 2020-08-12 10-39-48 PDT jhofinger It works on Windows using the wayland code and setting GDK_WIN32_USE_EXPERIMENTAL_OLE2_DND=1 2020-07-26 02-37-22 PDT jhofinger When opening new dialogs either from the menu or by keyboard, it should not be placed in a collapsed notebook 2020-08-12 07-22-20 PDT jhofinger Also, please save the size of dialogs on close, so I don't have to resize them the next time I open Inkscape 2020-07-26 02-48-40 PDT jhofinger okay :) I doubt a lot of people would miss it tbh :D 2020-04-05 09-55-09 PDT jhofinger Now I have a new list entry named "test" and I can add patterns 2020-04-05 09-56-05 PDT jhofinger Yes. But if the user doesn't provide a title, could the filename be used instead? 2020-07-26 02-31-45 PDT jhofinger turns out you can type in this area. haven't seen that before 2020-07-27 01-51-29 PDT jhofinger 2 works perfectly, also with multiple windows 2020-07-26 02-06-12 PDT jhofinger I'm not sure how to open dialogs :D 2020-08-02 23-21-28 PDT jhofinger Yes I know 2020-04-05 09-24-26 PDT jhofinger (that's how I found the bug, I did some migration work) 2020-07-26 02-52-50 PDT jhofinger (floating dialogs in Windows) 2020-07-26 03-13-29 PDT jhofinger they are all fully functional 2020-07-26 03-17-00 PDT jhofinger it's related to opening the path effect editor 2020-07-26 02-25-05 PDT jhofinger yes 2020-08-02 23-30-29 PDT jhofinger I understood bug 2 differently 2020-07-27 01-56-15 PDT jhofinger that's great :) 2020-08-12 09-20-43 PDT jhofinger ah thanks :) I will try to poke it later 2020-08-13 01-29-46 PDT jhofinger still crashes, but bt looks different 2020-04-05 09-54-09 PDT jhofinger Ah it needs to be an entire tag. now it works 2020-08-02 23-17-42 PDT jhofinger 20: I can still resize a dialog notebook to "collapsed" size. It still happens and is confusing I think (especially if the dialog that is scrolled into view has tabs as well, such as F&S, so the user wonders where the tabs are gone to) 2020-08-12 11-12-47 PDT jhofinger what do you mean by "an issue on your branch"? 2020-07-26 02-32-54 PDT jhofinger yeah, definitely not a part of 1.0. Anyway, none of your concern for now 2020-08-02 23-19-29 PDT jhofinger 4 is probably a duplicate of 20, or am I missing some nuance? 2020-08-13 02-33-26 PDT jhofinger Okay. 2020-07-26 02-19-11 PDT jhofinger no, currently they don't but it could be a good idea 2020-07-27 02-20-49 PDT jhofinger Did you change anything inside the copy/paste code? I've noticed multiple times already that sometimes the clipboard doesn't work at all (i.e. i can't copy files inside file explorer or screenshots to clipboard). It works again when I close Inkscape. I haven't found out yet what triggers it 2020-08-02 23-26-25 PDT jhofinger Just some things I noticed while testing:
- if you have a big and a small dialog with some elements aligned to bottom at the top (such as Document properties and XML editor) and another notebook below you have to resize the top notebook to an unreasonable size to see the bottom-floating elements of the dialog. This is confusing to users and hard to explain (why should a dialog which isn't even active influence this at all?)
- When you pop out a floating dialog, it should have its minimum size without scrollbars
- When you close a floating dialog and reopen it, it should still be floating (that's how 1.0 behaves at least) 2020-08-02 22-28-42 PDT jhofinger I know that feeling. 2020-08-13 00-16-50 PDT jhofinger rendering when dragging from collapsed to non-collapsed is a lot better 2020-07-26 03-18-43 PDT jhofinger and I think it requires two documents to be open 2020-07-27 02-46-39 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=GCs5m39J2HfEumTSi) I think we follow the GNOME HIG, https://developer.gnome.org/hig/stable/writing-style.html defines where an ellipsis can be. I think it wasn't there in the old docking system. Probably, as soon as the ellipsis is gone, the translation subsystem picks up the name and translates it () 2020-08-12 10-44-25 PDT jhofinger https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/issues/82 took the idea from here 2020-04-05 09-19-10 PDT jhofinger pattern.svg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/LpYnsHrd7cJApTkr9/pattern.svg) 2020-07-26 10-09-19 PDT jhofinger good to know :) 2020-07-26 03-01-24 PDT jhofinger I think it mainly needs polishing, basic functionality looks fine. Is the dialog arrangement already stored? 2020-07-27 01-49-12 PDT jhofinger How so, Ctrl+Scroll/Alt+Scroll? 2020-08-13 01-40-49 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/2xh7u9t4qh8awga/2020-08-13%2010-39-51.mkv?dl=0 2020-08-12 11-13-03 PDT jhofinger am confused 2020-08-13 02-27-19 PDT jhofinger I'm sorry, I just noticed I uploaded the wrong bt earlier 2020-08-02 23-21-00 PDT jhofinger I think it's reasonable to remove collapsing. 2020-07-27 02-21-31 PDT jhofinger I haven't noticed that on master, personally 2020-07-26 02-38-02 PDT jhofinger Collapsed notebooks should not have a selected tab; and if the user clicks on one, the notebook should automatically expand 2020-07-26 02-43-20 PDT jhofinger also, if you drag a dialog out of the docking area it would be great if it automatically spawns a new window 2020-04-05 09-26-09 PDT jhofinger Is this supposed to be supported? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/397796 2020-07-27 01-54-29 PDT jhofinger great progress since yesterday, btw :) 2020-08-13 02-19-38 PDT jhofinger ok :) 2020-04-05 09-54-36 PDT jhofinger I added test to the root svg element 2020-08-13 03-36-39 PDT jhofinger fyi: I won't be home until saturday, so I can't test (compiling on my laptop takes ages) 2020-07-26 02-53-28 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=ywLGsjq6igh8tzzKW) you could only scroll the contents, not the title bar () 2020-07-26 02-57-38 PDT jhofinger overall, it feels quite intuitive and adressses a lot lof issues users had with the previous design. 2020-07-27 01-50-40 PDT jhofinger One suggestion which is not yet on your list: when a notebook is collapsed, show none of the tabs as selected. When the user clicks a tab, automatically expand the notebook. (Currently, when the notebook is collapsed, clicking just selects the tab, it's a bit confusing that you have to expand the notebook as well). 2020-07-26 09-53-13 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=EXaLdgWwPQJmXmYay) I think this one is missing on your list. Still happens to me all the time () 2020-07-26 03-04-41 PDT jhofinger and then dock it in the same window 2020-07-26 02-34-53 PDT jhofinger once again something you didn't break, but if we have more scrolling inside dialogs, we should definitely fix that numeric boxes capture the scrolling events for value changes 2020-07-27 02-54-28 PDT jhofinger ok, the next time I happen I will ask in the dev chat how to debug it 2020-08-12 06-42-11 PDT jhofinger - dragging out to a new window fails 2020-07-26 02-18-08 PDT jhofinger a bit like in blender 2020-08-12 07-24-26 PDT jhofinger Yes of course. The decision which part of my feedback you decide to implement lies with you. 2020-07-27 01-47-01 PDT jhofinger 1 looks good 2020-07-26 09-58-16 PDT jhofinger instead of opening a closed notebook when opening a new dialog, you should try to add it to an open notebook, preferably one with similar size 2020-07-26 02-45-55 PDT jhofinger Could "Hide all tab labels" maybe be a property of the notebook, i.e. it becomes greyed out after clicking, and when I add a new dialog, the label is also hidden? 2020-07-26 02-08-18 PDT jhofinger huh only seems to happen when opening from the terminal 2020-07-26 02-35-54 PDT jhofinger I think you don't have to show a dialog's name in the hamburger menu if there is only one dialog in this notebook 2020-08-13 00-19-07 PDT jhofinger #0 0x0000000001313d67 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::AttrDialog::setRepr(Inkscape::XML::Node*) ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libinkscape_base.dll
#1 0x000000000149abf7 in Inkscape::UI::Dialog::XmlTree::deferred_on_tree_select_row(void*) ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libinkscape_base.dll
#2 0x00000000649f7b2d in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_dispatch ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll
#3 0x00000000649f7e88 in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_dispatch ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll
#4 0x00000000649f80d1 in libglib-2.0-0!g_main_context_iteration ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libglib-2.0-0.dll
#5 0x000000000239429d in libgio-2.0-0!g_application_run ()
from C:\msys64\home\jonat\inkscape\build\experimental\inkscape\bin\libgio-2.0-0.dll
#6 0x00000000004038c2 in main ()
Whenever I close a floating dialog 2020-07-26 02-46-20 PDT jhofinger I spent far too much time on hackfixing the win32 theme, I feel you 2020-07-26 03-04-32 PDT jhofinger when a dialog is in a separate window, you can open it again in the main window 2020-07-26 10-09-43 PDT jhofinger whenever I should test something on Windows, just tell me - I've set up your branch as upstream and can pull whenever you like 2020-07-26 09-33-57 PDT jhofinger will check out! 2020-08-02 23-31-32 PDT jhofinger also bug 3 was user error (I think I told you), not your concern 2020-08-12 06-50-14 PDT jhofinger - If I open F&S as docked, close the notebook and reopen it with Ctrl+Shift+F, Inkscape segfaults. (Happens with other dialogs too) 2020-04-05 09-21-12 PDT jhofinger :/ 2020-08-02 23-20-08 PDT jhofinger 5: same as 20 2020-07-26 03-17-40 PDT jhofinger and it happened after i oepened path effects 2020-04-05 09-57-19 PDT jhofinger Cool! 2020-07-26 03-20-49 PDT jhofinger no idea if that helps 2020-07-26 03-04-14 PDT jhofinger haha :D 2020-07-27 02-18-00 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/zd5oi8hxyqnma2r/2020-07-27%2011-16-19.mkv?dl=0
if you have a dialog with vertical zero size, defocusing its window causes it to jump up. Sometimes scrolling inside that window is also enough 2020-07-26 03-20-44 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/x5ysvc7nvdu9eb6/2020-07-26%2012-20-14.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-26-08 PDT jhofinger ok :) you have to prioritize, i'm just writing whatever I notice 2020-07-27 02-02-36 PDT jhofinger "Move tab to new window" should be in the context menu of the tab, not in the hamburger menu - an entry "move notebook to window" is missing there, though 2020-07-26 02-31-35 PDT jhofinger yes, I was just wondering about the green highlight 2020-07-26 10-11-29 PDT jhofinger the docking system has annoyed me for so long, great to see some progress - if it becomes more maintainable that way, the entire project wins a lot 2020-08-13 02-27-29 PDT jhofinger anyway, fixed now, thanks ;) 2020-07-26 02-56-14 PDT jhofinger whoa that sounds like a lot 2020-08-12 07-26-42 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - August 12, 2020 4:26 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/mmQ3WdMMvEQRR5FKs/Clipboard%20-%20Aug…) 2020-08-12 09-34-30 PDT jhofinger hmm, on windows neither on_drag_fail nor on_drag_end is ever called... 2020-08-12 06-52-20 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwjwrc5pa994srp/2020-08-12%2015-51-44.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-24-40 PDT jhofinger Whenever I open the XML editor, the notebook suddenly becomes very large horizontally 2020-08-02 23-38-26 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - August 3, 2020 8:38 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/3o5HcZSmjho63GK7d/Clipboard%20-%20Aug…) 2020-07-26 02-50-23 PDT jhofinger "move notebook to new window" really would be cool 2020-08-12 06-42-26 PDT jhofinger - the context menu is great 2020-04-05 09-19-53 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - April 5, 2020 6:19 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/NmPNyscGWpPmzNc8P/Clipboard%20-%20Apr…) 2020-08-12 22-12-17 PDT jhofinger Nice :) 2020-07-26 02-51-58 PDT jhofinger revisiting scrolling: the title bar of a notebook should probably be visible all the time 2020-04-05 09-53-09 PDT jhofinger Adding a title attribute doesn't change anything. 2020-07-26 02-49-26 PDT jhofinger you could automatically close separate dock windows if they don't have a dialog inside anymode 2020-07-26 02-58-16 PDT jhofinger I haven't experienced any crashes either 2020-07-26 02-04-36 PDT jhofinger Hi, I just checked out and compiled the docking-system-copy branch from your fork. Anything I could test? :) 2020-07-31 08-49-00 PDT jhofinger failed locally as well, probably because gtkwayland.h ist not existent on Windows? 2020-07-26 03-10-32 PDT jhofinger oh it's not only layers, it just depends whether a second desktop is open 2020-07-26 02-09-47 PDT jhofinger ah nvm opened from bin and not from inkscape/bin :D i need a coffee 2020-08-02 23-21-56 PDT jhofinger also agree that 8 and 19 are not relevant anymore 2020-08-13 00-23-00 PDT jhofinger ok 2020-07-26 03-32-03 PDT jhofinger In the old docking system, a lot of crazy things were possible (such as an undocked dialog being docked in another window, and still tracking the old window, which can then be closed, but the dialog remains in the second window and interacting with it causes segfaults), but your way of automatically switching a dialog's context makes a lot more sense 2020-04-05 09-21-40 PDT jhofinger Thanks! If you find time, could you document the Paint servers dialog before 1.0? 2020-08-12 06-47-53 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/u0ohbrtyvyt9iht/2020-08-12%2015-47-15.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-15-36 PDT jhofinger I like it so far! especially that you can resize dialogs below their min width 2020-07-26 03-08-38 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxa860x5i1z5awy/2020-07-26%2012-08-05.mkv?dl=0 2020-07-26 02-42-50 PDT jhofinger it doesn't seem to remember that a dock has been in a separate window when I close that window and reopen the dialog 2020-07-26 03-07-11 PDT jhofinger this is reproducible 2020-07-27 01-46-29 PDT jhofinger For the third one: I don't see a horizontal scroll bar, but resizing below min width works. When I pull too fast, the dialogs seem to snap at a specific width 2020-08-02 22-28-05 PDT jhofinger Thank you for your hard work on this! 2020-07-27 01-05-09 PDT jhofinger I probably won't be able to help you there, but if there's something to test on Windows, just tell me 2020-07-27 01-58-10 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 27, 2020 10:58 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/GgJqYLtN2QprKYgi6/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-07-26 02-41-49 PDT jhofinger I can't seem to drop dialogs on "you can drop dropable dialogs here" 2020-07-26 02-58-35 PDT jhofinger certainly, yes; how much more time do you have for this? 2020-08-12 22-09-27 PDT jhofinger Okay :) so all I did was removing the Wayland preprocessor directive around on_drag_end (and the if condition), and strarted Inkscape with the flag I mentioned above. I have no idea if there are regressions by using this flag, esp. on older systems though. 2020-07-27 02-21-23 PDT jhofinger Also was a problem yesterday 2020-08-13 02-25-56 PDT jhofinger From a usability perspective, the horizontal resizing of dialogs probably is only a good idea if dialogs are made a lot more flexible (through Glade-ification for example). That's out of scope for you obviously. The only thing I feel anxious about in the new system is the "dialogs of different height in one scrolling notebook" issue, I guess this will catch complaints 2020-07-26 02-13-21 PDT jhofinger are you supposed to be able to scroll when collapsed? 2020-07-26 10-04-18 PDT jhofinger why? if they are all visible, show only "hide". If they are all collapsed, show only "make visible". If some are collapsed and some are not, show both. 2020-07-26 03-34-08 PDT jhofinger I really think my main pain points are: windows don't stay afloat, docking in empty docking areas and dragging a dialog out to spawn a new window. If this + saving configuration + some design fixes are done, it's pretty amazing 2020-07-26 02-50-05 PDT jhofinger also, if there is only one dialog in a separate window, "move tab to new window" doesn't really make sense 2020-08-12 06-42-04 PDT jhofinger - you should remove the "you can drop dockable dialogs here" 2020-07-26 02-53-50 PDT jhofinger (might be a lot easier said then done) 2020-07-26 03-13-21 PDT jhofinger Unbenannt.PNG (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/TDBLajdu4aoRwXEzy/Unbenannt.PNG) 2020-07-26 03-13-33 PDT jhofinger let me see if I can replicate that 2020-08-12 11-13-00 PDT jhofinger this flag is never mentioned anywhere, not even in the GTK code 2020-07-27 01-53-50 PDT jhofinger ideally, don't show any tab as selected when collapsed, since that has no meaning to the user. 2020-07-26 10-05-53 PDT jhofinger Definitely better than a crash, but imo it belongs to "known issues" 2020-07-27 02-11-53 PDT jhofinger drag & dropping dialog tabs to undefined areas doesn't work on Windows and X11 (should work on Wayland)
I just noticed that the small area on top (green border when dragging something over it) still works 2020-08-13 02-17-30 PDT jhofinger Your branch shows that the last commit is an hour old (https://gitlab.com/vanntile/inkscape/-/tree/docking-system-copy), different branch? 2020-07-26 02-18-02 PDT jhofinger have you considered making the docks resizable horizontally as well? and when they are resized below a certain width, they disappear 2020-07-26 02-08-23 PDT jhofinger looks fine otherwise 2020-07-26 02-52-44 PDT jhofinger I think thomas was working on this before the 1.0 release 2020-07-27 01-59-38 PDT jhofinger Some quick fixes (hopefully): 1) the title bar of the dialogs is not translated 2) the title still has "..." behind it 3) the top (cropped) dialog ends without a border. Maybe add a bottom border to the notebook (same to the right with the new feature) 2020-07-26 02-07-22 PDT jhofinger I'm getting a ton of warnings also, units.xml is e.g. missing 2020-07-26 02-06-03 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 11:05 AM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/9qpDCJCX8ukAHdABF/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-08-02 23-22-32 PDT jhofinger Probably true. 2020-07-27 02-48-34 PDT jhofinger okay perfect. We had bug reports about a missing space in front of the ellipsis in menu entries on mac in some languages because interface guidelines differ... people _will_ notice, and they will create bug reports 2020-08-12 09-35-56 PDT jhofinger any more signals I could try? 2020-08-12 07-27-48 PDT jhofinger I think I told you this before, but in this situation, noone will notice that there are controls at the bottom of the Selects & CSS dialog (there are others like this, XML editor for example, or text). 2020-07-26 10-02-59 PDT jhofinger I think the fix for the dialogs that remain open after closing is not that simple. Imagine you have a master document with some undocked dialog, and a second inkscape window open. Now you want to close the second window. When it's focused, the dialog suddenly listens to that document, and closing it closes it as well - which the user probably didn't want (that's at least what happens currently on your branch).
I'd only close the dialogs when the last instance is closed. 2020-07-26 03-17-11 PDT jhofinger at least i managed to make it happen again 2020-07-26 02-22-51 PDT jhofinger When right clicking the dock, the Layers dialog is shown as "Page 2" for me - looks like it doesn't find the title of the dialog 2020-07-26 03-04-12 PDT jhofinger Clipboard - July 26, 2020 12:04 PM (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/FvDnRjdMqxCuvYkos/Clipboard%20-%20Jul…) 2020-08-12 07-21-35 PDT jhofinger If the automatic resizing is blocked by scrolling, then deactivate it. We can't explain to users why only half of the dialog is visible by default. 2020-08-02 23-21-43 PDT jhofinger I just wanted to say that I understand your decision and would probably have done the same 2020-08-13 02-29-59 PDT jhofinger Is it possible that whenever a dialog is docked, you trigger a complete re-rendering of the window (like what happens when you change the window size)? I guess that could fix the locking up on Windows. As soon as I resize the window, it immediately functions again. 2020-07-26 03-28-21 PDT jhofinger I see your point. 2020-07-26 03-00-26 PDT jhofinger nice :) 2020-08-12 07-28-36 PDT jhofinger alright 2020-07-26 02-23-13 PDT jhofinger I now. For now, we could just add a horizontal scroll bar inside dialogs 2020-04-05 09-57-37 PDT jhofinger Oh definitely. 2020-07-27 02-05-13 PDT jhofinger Additional idea: closing tab with Middle mouse button click, and reopening with Ctrl+Shift+T just like in a browser 2020-07-26 09-56-34 PDT jhofinger Alternating the "Hide labels" is a step in the right direction, but now you can hide them, un-hide them one by one and the menu still says "hide labels". Maybe have both of them, but when all are visible, the "unhide" one is insensitive, and vice versa 2020-07-27 01-46-31 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/wusie0pihgfznsx/2020-07-27%2010-45-10.mkv?dl=0 2020-08-13 02-18-45 PDT jhofinger crash is fixed 2020-07-26 02-47-52 PDT jhofinger you can't do this kind of arrangement, right? 2020-07-26 02-12-16 PDT jhofinger When collapsed, it looks like this for me 2020-07-26 02-36-24 PDT jhofinger and maybe change the text to "Highlight Layers" instead of "Layers..." 2020-04-05 09-25-18 PDT jhofinger That one as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/172168 2020-07-26 10-06-27 PDT jhofinger do you feel like you get enough feedback from the advisors? 2020-07-27 01-55-48 PDT jhofinger My feeling is that some GSoC projects in the past lacked polish and left a lot of work for the maintainers. It looks like you have time to do that :) 2020-08-13 02-18-51 PDT jhofinger anything else I should test for? 2020-08-02 22-29-50 PDT jhofinger Okay 😊 2020-07-27 01-52-13 PDT jhofinger [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/vanntile?msg=EXaLdgWwPQJmXmYay) that one is still missing from your list () 2020-04-05 09-19-03 PDT jhofinger Sure: 2020-07-27 02-14-06 PDT jhofinger - the shortcuts to open a new dialog don't work when a floating window is focused 2020-08-12 07-19-56 PDT jhofinger If you redock a floating dialog, close the notebook and open it again, nothing happens. If I close Inkscape afterwards, it segfaults. 2020-07-27 02-06-51 PDT jhofinger I don't know if this problem exists on Linux as well, but the floating dialog windows have the unfortunate property that focusing them unfocuses (greys out) the main window. That's a bit annoying. It's also an issue on Master, but if you have an idea how to fix that, that'd be great 2020-07-26 02-51-10 PDT jhofinger I can't seem to get a window floating above the canvas, might be another windows limitation 2020-07-27 00-51-42 PDT jhofinger The fix looks good to me. :) 2020-04-05 09-20-04 PDT jhofinger Now it looks like this in every document 2020-07-27 02-01-50 PDT jhofinger Also missing from your list, I think: you can have the same dialog twice in an undocked window (I guess nobody needs that) 2020-07-26 02-14-14 PDT jhofinger Also, when I collapse, and then immediately swich to a different tab, it scrolls down to the contents of that tab 2020-04-05 09-52-11 PDT jhofinger I placed the file (as it is) in %inkscape%/paint. When I open Inkscape, the paint servers dialog looks like in my screenshot. 2020-04-05 09-56-26 PDT jhofinger That would fix both the crash and my problem. 2020-08-12 06-44-58 PDT jhofinger if you add a second dialog into an existing floating window, it should increase the size accordingly 2020-07-26 03-32-58 PDT jhofinger like icon preview or CSS 2020-07-26 02-19-34 PDT jhofinger people often complain that the dialogs are too wide 2020-04-05 09-57-14 PDT jhofinger (And especially, patterns from this document shouldn't be displayed if they can't be used, as in my screenshot) 2020-08-13 02-18-18 PDT jhofinger ok alright, will test 2020-08-13 02-21-05 PDT jhofinger I mean, can you nitpick things? Yes, a lot. Is it an adequate replacement of the old system? Yes, and I'd argue that some things have considerably improved 2020-07-26 02-29-14 PDT jhofinger https://www.dropbox.com/s/1gu854je2wkna8z/2020-07-26%2011-27-29.mkv?dl=0 is this supposed to happen? 2020-08-13 02-20-00 PDT jhofinger Good job! IMO it should be ready :)
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2020-04-26 08-11-45 PDT Gellért Release notes looks very good. Thanks! 2020-04-26 08-10-29 PDT Gellért Hi @Moini. I don’t think that I would be such an important contributor... but I filled out. 2020-04-26 09-55-36 PDT Moini Ha, that's what everyone thinks :) You've spent an incredible amount of time on making sure that the command line is documented properly and that tutorials look great and can be auto-created (and possibly many more things - I need to read your reply to remember ;-) ) . I think this will benefit quite a wide range of users - both beginners and experts. 2020-04-25 13-49-11 PDT Moini Hi Gellért! The Vectors team is looking for some interesting contributor stories. I know you've got some interesting bits to tell, so if you're up to it, it would help us if you could have a look at https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730
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2019-10-10 09-43-29 PDT daddy can you help me 2019-10-10 09-40-38 PDT daddy hi 2019-10-10 09-44-21 PDT Patrick Please ask general questions in #inkscape_user and allow some time to give others the chance to read and answer the question. Make sure to formulate your question well and give sufficient info - this will increase the probability of people being able to help you.
You should avoid contacting users directly as this is usually perceived as being rude (unless you have a good reason to contact a specific person directly).
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2019-11-01 11-18-50 PDT Ryan Gorley Hmm :thinking: 2019-11-01 11-15-18 PDT Ryan Gorley How, how's it going? Need some help with socallinuxep? 2019-11-01 11-19-02 PDT Ryan Gorley What are your thoughts so far? 2019-11-01 11-16-00 PDT Ryan Gorley Same. Feels like I'm juggling while drowning. :) 2019-11-01 11-56-08 PDT Ryan Gorley Let me think about this. (Sorry, I'm seriously multitasking at the moment lol) 2019-11-01 11-17-48 PDT ScislaC So, honestly, I think that the big thing with SCALE atm is, I need to nail down a "theme". 2019-11-01 11-15-33 PDT ScislaC Always :) 2019-11-01 11-16-15 PDT ScislaC Oof, apt description. 2019-11-01 11-22-27 PDT ScislaC In a handful of past years I went with things tied to the number. This will be 18... pretty much the only thing I could think of was adulthood, or something along those lines... which seems kind of lame. Do you have any ideas? Any current sources of inspiration? 2019-11-01 11-57-54 PDT ScislaC Sounds good by me. (UGH! I am so with you. I am concurrent trying to track 4 realtime conversations while trying to do other stuff) 2019-11-01 11-15-47 PDT ScislaC It's going well (but busy), how about with you?
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2020-12-27 08-59-57 PST anonym_i_ous what are its benefits 2020-12-27 09-22-07 PST anonym_i_ous thanks for confirmation and quick replies (: 2020-12-27 08-58-42 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=CeDZLYYzfpfHeYwqY) () 2020-12-27 09-25-46 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, lack of asset manager. 2020-12-27 09-21-55 PST anonym_i_ous anyways, that can be addressed later. i just wanted to confirm that this IS indeed an issue or if u thought about this. 2020-12-27 09-02-06 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, right. but an object will still have to be selected for the list to fetch the gradients right? 2020-12-27 09-03-56 PST anonym_i_ous unz5zVVWC1.mp4 (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/KedxAgW8Wydu4otqx/unz5zVVWC1.mp4) 2020-12-27 09-02-33 PST anonym_i_ous {that's the current behaviour} 2020-12-27 09-32-20 PST anonym_i_ous https://gitlab.com/inkscape/ux/-/issues/23 2020-12-27 09-21-29 PST anonym_i_ous yeah 2020-12-27 09-04-02 PST anonym_i_ous video of current behaviour: 2020-12-27 09-26-50 PST anonym_i_ous { sorry for editing messages again and again :sweat_smile: } 2020-12-27 08-58-02 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=fMhc6w83XAR9yWYov) () 2020-12-27 08-59-45 PST anonym_i_ous i have some questions regarding this F&S dialog's proposal 2021-01-03 01-21-44 PST anonym_i_ous hello there 2020-12-27 08-57-54 PST anonym_i_ous hlo 2020-12-27 09-04-19 PST anonym_i_ous how about the gradient list shown all the time?
update: no, as far as i can see, it would require significant changes in the f&S dialog 2020-12-27 08-59-15 PST anonym_i_ous sorry to dm, i didnt want to poke my nose in ongoing talk in team ux. so, asking here if u dont mind 2021-01-03 02-01-32 PST anonym_i_ous [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=ozgk2QqgRTzQZHFh5)[ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=DR8Zi6GGmpCvFN7wa)any tips from ur side?? () 2020-12-27 09-08-29 PST anonym_i_ous yeah, that can ofc be checked in xml editor, but can its editing be triggered from there? (dont know, really asking) 2020-12-27 09-26-28 PST anonym_i_ous hopefully the object dialog redesign can address that. i am guessing that it is taking inspiration from blender software's outliner panel - it is awesome in that context. 2020-12-27 08-59-34 PST Mike Kowalski Sure... 2020-12-27 09-26-43 PST Mike Kowalski Oh, I see. 2020-12-27 09-24-26 PST Mike Kowalski I think issue is a little bit bigger than just gradients. There are many definitions in XML doc and we only (?) show them in XML editor. And yet we have a command to blow away unused defs (clean up document), but no way of showing what's available/gone. 2021-01-03 07-31-25 PST Mike Kowalski Hello. I think I'm good. If anything, there are too many ideas floating, so it's hard to see what should be included in the end. I use existing widgets from Inkscape for the most part. Only gradient with stops is missing today, but I already saw examples posted in UX channel. 2020-12-27 09-01-21 PST Mike Kowalski The problem we are facing today is that we cannot edit a chosen gradient from this list without actually assigning it to current object. I thought those buttons would not change selection. 2020-12-27 09-15-21 PST Mike Kowalski It could be, potentially. The question is where and do we really want it. It is useful to see them. I just don't know if we could justify having yet another dialog. 2020-12-27 09-04-43 PST Mike Kowalski Ha! That is something I didn't think about... How important would it be to see this list on its own? If need be I check gradient defs in XML editor.... 2020-12-27 09-28-03 PST Mike Kowalski Are there plans to enhance object dialog? It doesn't show assets currently.
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2019-06-17 15-20-10 PDT Bryce Harrington it's the town that The Goonies was filmed in (there's even a Goonies museum in the old town jail), and Kindergarten Cop, among others. 2018-12-23 16-04-04 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, community management is an odd thing to look for jobs for, but that's what I love doing the most 2020-03-08 21-37-01 PDT Bryce Harrington jan and feb are up, I don't have log for march. https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/ 2019-06-17 15-24-23 PDT Bryce Harrington so instead we decided we'll have a deer park instead of a garden. Less maintenance. ;-) 2019-12-03 12-19-46 PST Bryce Harrington again it makes me wonder if what he is really concerned about is something else 2018-10-11 18-43-10 PDT Bryce Harrington except for my mom... but I hope the Dr's can help her some 2020-04-11 13-31-03 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, totally unrelated, I have just been trying to filter emails down a bit better 2019-02-05 17-00-04 PST Bryce Harrington looking 2019-11-17 18-39-39 PST Bryce Harrington oh sorry was in reply to needing better spam control a couple weeks ago 2019-01-30 16-53-49 PST Bryce Harrington I opened a bug in the legal group about the digital fashion pro issue.
https://gitlab.com/inkscape-board/legal/branding/issues/3
I've added you to the legal group so you should be able to view it, let me know if not.
The lawyer that had been handling it was Denver Gingerich, and he's still listed as being part of SFC, so I've added him to the group. Hopefully he'll notice and can chime in about status. 2020-07-26 00-49-47 PDT Bryce Harrington https://www.facebook.com/bryce.harrington.39/posts/10221917621266150 2018-10-11 18-28-45 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2019-04-02 13-26-34 PDT Bryce Harrington no, they kept some of the more hard core EFL guys but let the rest go. Even the kernel developers they had (which are hard to obtain) were let go 2019-01-15 14-28-45 PST Bryce Harrington not sure what to do next... there's no link from the upload page anywhere. I'm guessing maybe it should show up in the Resource dropdown on the release administrative page? 2019-02-05 09-56-16 PST Bryce Harrington hah 2019-06-17 15-51-59 PDT Bryce Harrington zoë and I are looking at the photos now :-) 2018-12-03 13-59-19 PST Bryce Harrington Hi Moini, sorry I've not been very around, I'm spending lots of time on my mom these days. She's been declining rapidly, there's a lot needing taken care of. It's rather sad. 2018-11-17 13-17-44 PST Bryce Harrington I'm going to try and stay involved with Inkscape through this, but I may get a bit more detached than normal, so wanted to let you know why 2019-10-18 18-10-57 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah they're really bad at replying to email, best to catch them on irc 2019-10-18 18-06-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I think I got what he was trying to say, but that kind of rubbed me the wrong way 2018-11-17 13-46-07 PST Bryce Harrington we're trying to shift Wacom's stance worldwide, so translation of materials and working with the international Inkscape community could be very advantageous 2018-11-17 13-39-39 PST Bryce Harrington thanks 2018-12-03 14-23-21 PST Bryce Harrington :-) 2018-10-11 18-24-32 PDT Bryce Harrington they've been trying to get us to settle 2019-12-03 11-32-32 PST Bryce Harrington he's just picking at me constantly 2019-12-03 11-37-24 PST Bryce Harrington and I think even just moderator isn't enough, I think you found you had to be list owner 2019-06-17 15-04-48 PDT Bryce Harrington one thing that was nice with samsung is I'd pretty much have a single project to work on in a week, here I generally am hopping among multiple projects daily. 2019-06-17 15-28-25 PDT Bryce Harrington kids are almost old enough to be put to landscaping work... ;-) 2019-02-05 19-28-00 PST Bryce Harrington night! I'm devoting the night to getting the sponsorship renewal requests out the door 2019-01-16 10-06-03 PST Bryce Harrington what was the root cause problem there? 2019-01-15 14-33-51 PST Bryce Harrington https://inkscape.org/~bryce/%E2%98%85inkscape-0924-source-package 2019-12-03 12-27-28 PST Bryce Harrington I appreciate that, although be aware what I see in my email is just "@bryce, ^" so I don't know what the item is about. I don't always have time at the moment to log into chat, and so am missing some of the flags. 2019-01-15 14-53-33 PST Bryce Harrington https://inkscape.org/~bryce/%E2%98%85inkscape-0924-source-package+0 2018-10-11 18-26-29 PDT Bryce Harrington anyway, there is going to be some PR work to do here. I need to get clarification on a couple things with Karen but will pull in Vectors to work with them on what we'll say 2019-12-03 11-34-11 PST Bryce Harrington of course, and it's been my intent to add more people as moderators 2019-01-14 17-07-46 PST Bryce Harrington hmm, how would I get a db dump? 2020-03-08 21-39-42 PDT Bryce Harrington as to me, I'm ok, enjoying the new job, although it has been keeping me super busy 2018-10-11 18-41-39 PDT Bryce Harrington the good news at least is that all these things either don't affect me directly, or are temporary 2019-06-17 09-06-12 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, I'm getting really behind on inkscape tasks 2019-04-02 13-24-27 PDT Bryce Harrington but honestly I'm ready to move on from graphics, and the cloud tech looks really interesting. I've loved working on the Inkscape infrastructure 2018-12-08 12-37-34 PST Bryce Harrington I could be wrong though 2018-12-23 16-21-50 PST Bryce Harrington the one thing I'm not super sure about is that the workload was rather high, kind of living under a firehose. Left little mental energy for Inkscape or other personal projects. I'd need to set boundaries and make sure job expectations are clear, and better protect my freetime. 2018-11-17 13-52-19 PST Bryce Harrington this Thursday is Thanksgiving holiday here in the US, so I know a lot of people are going to be preoccupied with that this week 2019-06-17 15-45-51 PDT Bryce Harrington I also made a real corkboard (4'x8') with 3/4" thick cork I special ordered, that is up in the kids' playroom for all their school art 2019-12-03 12-28-24 PST Bryce Harrington rocketchat makes it hard to browse mentions, and the @all tags seem to get mixed in. 2019-01-12 20-43-00 PST Bryce Harrington once the releases are out the door, I'm going to send out renewal reminders. I figure having the PR from the release, spreadshirt, etc. will emphasize our activities and help sponsors see the value in continuing to sponsor us. 2019-01-15 14-47-34 PST Bryce Harrington I uploaded it a 2nd time, I think it's uploaded but I still cannot find it in the Resource dropdown 2018-12-23 16-25-19 PST Bryce Harrington but I think a more valuable use of me for them would be to focus more on bug analysis and fixing 2019-04-05 06-58-47 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks 2019-01-15 14-39-27 PST Bryce Harrington btw, here's where I had last requested some sort of command line approach http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Re-inkscape-0-92-3pre0-source-tarball-now-… 2019-01-15 14-25-27 PST Bryce Harrington Screenshot from 2019-01-15 14-25-00.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/2BaBrjzFTmu7KDF94/Screenshot%20from%2…) 2019-04-02 13-17-59 PDT Bryce Harrington trying to get some dental work done too, before insurance changes... need a tooth extracted. :-( 2019-12-03 11-41-24 PST Bryce Harrington not as much as you'd imagine 2019-04-27 10-41-42 PDT Bryce Harrington it'll be good to return to familiar territory, and so great to be done with job hunting! 2019-09-05 09-05-10 PDT Bryce Harrington the long days are tough, but moreso than the time involved, it's very intense and high paced. Even when I have some free time I'm so spent I don't have much brain energy left. 2019-12-03 11-54-30 PST Bryce Harrington we even got SFC on the phone and got the process in the works 2019-04-02 13-23-17 PDT Bryce Harrington its tough, no one needs open source graphics software guys, it's all cloud tech now that they're looking for 2019-06-17 15-26-52 PDT Bryce Harrington or raised beds. 2019-12-03 11-52-17 PST Bryce Harrington fwiw we did talk back at the pasadena sprint. I brought up that there is a shit ton of administrative duties and workloads on me, that I was finding it hard to handle 2019-06-17 15-39-18 PDT Bryce Harrington I've got a production system set up to make a bunch more of those, but just haven't had time to get back out there 2019-03-20 22-42-57 PDT Bryce Harrington I really can't predict, it depends so much on my job situation 2018-10-11 18-29-06 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah he's working for a startup, I forget the name 2019-12-03 12-12-32 PST Bryce Harrington I don't have like secret bank account credentials or anything 2018-12-08 12-34-05 PST Bryce Harrington there's also plenty of space on alpha.inkscape.org for such things, although I know it lacks a user friendly way to upload 2019-12-03 11-41-40 PST Bryce Harrington at least, not via the admin interface. It's really poorly done 2019-05-11 14-59-40 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really sorry I can't come to Germany for the hackfest. I'm bummed, and if you're upset with me because of it, I understand. I had hoped I could find a job compatible with working on Inkscape but failed. :-( 2019-12-03 11-37-45 PST Bryce Harrington so that is putting a lot more configurational control over things than just spam handling 2019-05-11 15-27-42 PDT Bryce Harrington I did negotiate in accepting my job, for an extra week of vacation time each year, so should be in a better position to come next year. 2018-11-17 13-51-30 PST Bryce Harrington I'm hoping we can have a team kickoff meeting within the next week or so 2019-06-17 15-35-12 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, no she's single so she gets ALL the compartments ;-) 2019-12-03 12-08-36 PST Bryce Harrington I've been having Tav and Mc run the board meetings, and let other board members run the last board vote, so that's not entirely dependent on me either now 2019-01-15 19-57-16 PST Bryce Harrington thanks, yes I sense there was a lot of frustration all around today, and blame myself... I wish we could make the releases a lot smoother. 2018-12-23 16-18-40 PST Bryce Harrington e.g. I felt responsible for every bug filed about X.org in ubuntu. That's silly. 2019-05-01 17-26-03 PDT Bryce Harrington but saw lots and lots of names I haven't seen in years so also felt like coming home 2019-12-03 12-01-31 PST Bryce Harrington well no one says that, they just file complaints about what they don't like ;-) 2019-01-28 12-32-19 PST Bryce Harrington I updated it to use the standard mileage, it gives you a bit more, I think to cover general wear and tear on the vehicle beyond just fuel 2019-06-17 15-21-48 PDT Bryce Harrington the reason it sounds like an old hotel, is because the guy that founded it was the John Jacob Astor, who made his fortune in the fur trade, then moved into New York City real estate, so probably built a bunch of hoity toity hotels. Or at least, if you build a hotel and put Astor in its name it sounds like a wealthy fur baron place 2019-04-02 13-15-12 PDT Bryce Harrington they do. They also said they're working on some tooling - "Invoicinator" and "Reimbursinator" (or something) 2019-12-03 11-58-53 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, after that it was important to me to at *least* get the mailing list transition finished 2019-12-03 12-37-49 PST Bryce Harrington well, I'm less close to that edge than before I chatted with you, so thanks :-) 2019-10-18 18-01-48 PDT Bryce Harrington I wonder what he's waiting on a reply about? He CC'd me on a question he was asking SFC about, but I didn't have any info on it 2019-06-17 15-25-16 PDT Bryce Harrington we don't get good sunlight in the backyard, and the soil in the front is heavy clay, so even without the deer we have had trouble 2019-03-25 11-24-41 PDT Bryce Harrington jbc.engelen(a)gmail.com 2019-06-17 15-27-07 PDT Bryce Harrington exactly 2019-12-03 12-04-32 PST Bryce Harrington ...I don't see how this ends up with a very good future for me with Inkscape. :-( 2019-02-05 19-25-02 PST Bryce Harrington that would be wonderful 2019-01-27 16-37-29 PST Bryce Harrington (in fact, with trademarks it's a bit different from copyright in that if you don't enforce your trademark it can be lost.) 2019-03-27 09-53-33 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, sorry 2019-12-03 12-03-27 PST Bryce Harrington honestly I can really only do a fraction of what I used to do for Inkscape, and so the delta is going to be painful for people, and they'll complain. But I feel bad about not being able to do it all so will be sensitive when those complaints come up. 2019-06-17 15-40-36 PDT Bryce Harrington :wine_glass: 2019-12-03 11-35-46 PST Bryce Harrington I don't even see why this is suddenly such a huge deal, the lists are working, the spam's annoying but it's just spam 2019-04-02 13-37-20 PDT Bryce Harrington this is one reason I've been trying to put work into recruiting sponsors, but salesman is not a skill I possess 2019-04-12 16-23-31 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for thinking about it though. We should keep these rules in mind going forward. 2018-10-11 18-45-57 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, tomorrow 2019-02-05 14-19-22 PST Bryce Harrington btw, do you know if we've gotten feature/bug requests from glowforge users? Is there someplace I could get a list, ideally prioritized? 2019-05-11 15-01-57 PDT Bryce Harrington well, I still feel crappy about it, and I'm sorry 2019-01-16 10-05-15 PST Bryce Harrington glad to see martin is around today, good to see the fixes rolling in 2018-11-17 13-36-13 PST Bryce Harrington just so you''re aware, the wacom situation we talked about earlier is going to become public probably soon. It might require a lot of involvement. 2019-09-06 15-10-52 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really glad Mc offered to help with the mm3 stuff, exactly what's needed. 2019-12-03 12-15-07 PST Bryce Harrington and it just ends up being extra work to manage it 2019-04-04 10-00-51 PDT Bryce Harrington no go. they went with someone else :-( 2019-02-05 09-53-04 PST Bryce Harrington I used houz(a)gmx.de, is the other one better? 2019-01-28 12-35-08 PST Bryce Harrington might be other things worth breaking out as subgroups under board, like finances and sponsorship management. Maybe fundraising too, separate from finance, but I'm less sure of that; seems to overlap with vectors quite a bit, but may belong under board since the board has the oversight for it. 2018-11-17 13-44-40 PST Bryce Harrington PR work and community wrangling mostly. 2018-10-11 18-33-20 PDT Bryce Harrington I'd like to find something in open source. I interviewed with RedHat, applied for a position at Mozilla, and am going to apply for a job I found with Creative Commons 2019-06-17 15-48-11 PDT Bryce Harrington current project is a pink bookshelf for my daughter. She "helped" with the painting 2019-04-02 13-31-52 PDT Bryce Harrington in my dream world where I could work on whatever I wanted to, I'd love to work on doing that 2019-09-30 18-55-19 PDT Bryce Harrington Heya, yeah going good, got back from Paris ok, except picked up a bug so spent last week a bit sick. Went to the doctor about it Saturday and am finally feeling back to normal today 2019-04-02 13-53-40 PDT Bryce Harrington no, could be any time 2018-12-23 16-15-04 PST Bryce Harrington Actually no; there were two reasons and they're both resolved. 2018-12-08 12-33-02 PST Bryce Harrington oh yeah 2020-07-26 14-17-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I think the media is painting the event as Portland has become a war zone, and thousands are rioting. In truth, most of the "spice" happens in a 2 block area around a particular building, and only at nighttime - noon Saturday I drove my family right down the street where the tear gas is deployed, and it was almost just an ordinary street in an ordinary city. It really strikes me as kind of a photo op for Trump's campaign, he wants to run as a "law and order" candidate so having "violent anarchists" as a running theme in the news serves his purpose. 2019-01-14 16-58-20 PST Bryce Harrington it'd be same idea as markdown -> html, just yml -> releases app 2019-06-17 15-23-53 PDT Bryce Harrington we have troubles growing a garden here where I'm at now, the deer eat everything 2019-01-14 08-56-39 PST Bryce Harrington when you get back on your computer, can you find out and let me know? I vaguely recall asking about access to that once before, but don't remember if it got set up, so maybe I ought to check that first. 2019-04-02 13-35-29 PDT Bryce Harrington but I did get some improvements to GPU acceleration landed there, and did some experimental work to learn Vulkan, which was good 2019-12-03 11-34-57 PST Bryce Harrington but now I just feel damned if I do damned if I don't, and I don't have that much time myself 2019-12-03 12-32-32 PST Bryce Harrington that was one of the problems that was breaking the system when it first rolled out. Admin requests were bouncing exponentially and exhausted system memory 2019-06-17 15-47-43 PDT Bryce Harrington some day I need to get all the photos of my projects organized and online 2019-10-18 18-02-54 PDT Bryce Harrington ok great, do you know if there was something else? 2019-01-16 09-57-58 PST Bryce Harrington https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/0.92.x/NEWS 2019-12-03 11-56-07 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, after I accepted the new job, I finally heard from SFC, but it was too late :-( 2019-01-15 14-34-49 PST Bryce Harrington Home › Releases › Releases › Inkscape 0.92.4 2020-07-25 01-22-50 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah most of the engagement between police and protestors is just right in front of one particular building, so its ALL localized to about 1-2 blocks of downtown. Pretty much everywhere else in the city is just fine. 2019-10-01 08-08-55 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, we didn't talk too much business, but was nice to connect with them, and get some exercise in :-) 2019-04-02 13-12-29 PDT Bryce Harrington sorry, and I wish they weren't so insanely slow with everything 2019-01-13 18-59-21 PST Bryce Harrington btw, where do the messages go currently? I only know about them when martin forwards them along. Do others have access to the incoming message queue? 2019-07-12 10-43-29 PDT Bryce Harrington I'll try and look into the mailing list issues this weekend, it's been top of my todo list but freetime's been a rare beast these day 2018-12-23 16-06-26 PST Bryce Harrington I am kind of wondering about maybe making a return to Canonical to do X stack work for ubuntu again. 2019-12-03 11-58-02 PST Bryce Harrington I feel bad -- I still think that is exactly what Inkscape needs, and am sad I'm not in a position to be able to do it 2019-01-15 14-32-59 PST Bryce Harrington I'm in the administrative interface for releases. I don't know if there is a separate entry point for the releases app 2019-03-12 09-22-22 PDT Bryce Harrington too bad we didn't put the dates to follow the conference 2019-02-05 17-11-35 PST Bryce Harrington btw, I'm also working on a new sponsorship from icons8.com at bronze level 2019-01-16 10-06-28 PST Bryce Harrington you mentioned there is still a signature problem for me? where can I find out more info on that? 2019-03-12 09-17-30 PDT Bryce Harrington 2 days + 4 conference + 1 tour day. That is indeed a long event. Using the tour day as one of the hackfest days makes a lot of sense. 2019-12-03 11-31-25 PST Bryce Harrington plus I think Ian has root access 2019-12-03 11-57-14 PST Bryce Harrington it would have only been for a year though, and contingent on massive fund raising responsibilities 2018-12-23 16-18-49 PST Bryce Harrington yep 2019-01-27 17-06-42 PST Bryce Harrington honestly with a lot of these outfits it seems to consume a lot of time and just ends up being kind of wack-a-mole work 2019-01-16 09-57-25 PST Bryce Harrington hang on, I'll find a web link to the file in the repo 2018-11-17 13-36-52 PST Bryce Harrington no, feel free to tell anyone that needs to know 2018-10-11 18-33-53 PDT Bryce Harrington CC would be ideal, sounds like they need someone to do stuff very similar to what I do for Inkscape 2018-10-11 18-24-51 PDT Bryce Harrington but I learned last night they've finally agreed to rename their product 2018-10-11 18-35-27 PDT Bryce Harrington although I did look at some roles for SpaceX and daydreamed a bit ;-) 2019-06-17 15-41-01 PDT Bryce Harrington but no, for making the frame boards and cutting corks, I have enough to make a bunch of them as gifts 2019-12-03 11-40-00 PST Bryce Harrington spamassassin might be an option; I'd asked Ian to set that up as part of the contract originally, but I don't think it's operating actually 2019-01-15 19-58-45 PST Bryce Harrington we're doing two releases in one go, which adds to the work and increases the complexity and opportunities for confusion. But we'll get through it, and releases are an important part of the project so the pain pays off in the end. 2020-03-08 21-39-46 PDT Bryce Harrington cya 2019-04-02 13-29-30 PDT Bryce Harrington there's one person, Uli, who still works on it a fair bit. I might turn over maintainership to him at some point, depending on what job comes for me 2019-04-02 13-28-29 PDT Bryce Harrington Cairo still exists as an open source project, yes 2019-12-03 11-39-00 PST Bryce Harrington the next step is the suggestion of making subscriptions require moderator approval but that's got a lot of downsides to it 2018-10-11 18-40-53 PDT Bryce Harrington and stock market crashes, and horrible US politics, yeah 2020-09-09 15-16-11 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks. Just FIY my area of Oregon is suffering from major uncontained fires and I may need to evacuate. If so, you guys may not be hearing from me for a while. 2019-12-03 11-42-15 PST Bryce Harrington I've had to run sql commands in the database itself for fixing up subscription issues 2019-04-02 13-39-13 PDT Bryce Harrington keeping my options open, but an area I'm drawn to is backend rest API design and development 2020-01-01 21-39-23 PST Bryce Harrington Btw, the framed Inkscape award arrived just fine, and is with the other Inkscape items now. Kids enjoyed seeing it. :-) 2019-01-15 14-23-05 PST Bryce Harrington ugh 2019-02-22 11-00-44 PST Bryce Harrington yeah he does seem to be ax grinding there. 2018-12-23 16-08-43 PST Bryce Harrington yeah - in fact a job not at all unlike the one I was in when I was there - https://boards.greenhouse.io/canonical/jobs/1448670 2019-12-03 12-34-14 PST Bryce Harrington ok, so if I add one or two owners they can add more mods as needed 2019-11-17 18-45-49 PST Bryce Harrington I also added you as moderator for vectors and devel, hope that's ok 2020-11-09 16-35-47 PST Bryce Harrington I don't know to be honest, I just feel like I'm being pushed out of the project. 2019-03-12 09-15-21 PDT Bryce Harrington right 2019-12-03 11-55-36 PST Bryce Harrington SFC and the board 2019-12-03 11-42-43 PST Bryce Harrington the thing is, I kind of don't trust martin 2019-12-03 12-14-56 PST Bryce Harrington I hate that we have money. It causes more problems than it solves 2018-10-11 18-50-20 PDT Bryce Harrington yep that's right 2019-04-27 10-39-32 PDT Bryce Harrington hey good news finally. 2019-07-12 10-42-22 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for the reminder, I've really been losing track of inkscape lately 2019-12-03 11-34-33 PST Bryce Harrington but after you got upset that I added you to devel I decided I shouldn't just unilaterally add people 2019-06-17 15-33-30 PDT Bryce Harrington 100_0503.JPG (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/P4xD98b4HpAEqCwsq/100_0503.JPG) 2019-02-05 17-02-28 PST Bryce Harrington right 2019-12-04 14-27-52 PST Bryce Harrington ok thanks 2019-01-06 14-47-29 PST Bryce Harrington which documentation is that? 2019-04-05 06-52-30 PDT Bryce Harrington not great. feeling pretty discouraged 2019-01-16 09-58-56 PST Bryce Harrington it would be nice to improve that script to do the manual formatting work, I just haven't done that yet. 2019-01-15 15-00-09 PST Bryce Harrington the old key was a lower security 1024 byte key, that I have been told is insecure and not worth using for package signing these days, so I have updated to a 4096 byte key 2019-06-17 15-40-23 PDT Bryce Harrington hah :-D 2019-01-27 17-07-28 PST Bryce Harrington maybe we need to add an Inkscape Legal group to track this stuff 2020-04-11 09-57-44 PDT Bryce Harrington hi Moini, sorry I've not been responsive, between work and homeschooling the kids freetime is a distant memory ;-) You have a good Easter too. 2019-02-05 19-20-44 PST Bryce Harrington (to me too) 2019-04-02 14-01-23 PDT Bryce Harrington several of them are here in portland (we still get together regularly), so can travel together to stuff, etc. :-) 2018-10-11 18-30-24 PDT Bryce Harrington I was already working on finding a new job; things have been weird and stressful for a while, and my gut was telling me it was time to jump, so have already had a bit of interviewing done 2019-12-03 11-37-56 PST Bryce Harrington (and thus more responsibilities) 2019-12-03 12-29-48 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, regarding mailing list mod, I don't think it'll help the spam but am happy to add people, but easiest if I know specific people willing to be mods. I don't feel comfortable just blindingly adding the whole board. And I don't think it needs limited to just the board. 2018-10-11 18-22-39 PDT Bryce Harrington possibly one of the board members already mentioned it to you, but if not, we've been engaged with legal action against Wacom 2019-02-05 17-10-43 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, that is a good point. so then instead of asking for a renewal I'll ask if they'd like to be listed as bronze for a year. Sounds good 2020-07-26 14-19-11 PDT Bryce Harrington However, what I was really amazed by is Riot Ribs - it's just like an open source project, entirely run by volunteers, run bottom-up, people just show up and contribute. I really like that one of their main aims is to help the houseless population in the local neighborhood, because there is quite a few. 2019-03-12 09-23-19 PDT Bryce Harrington if we did, that would solve both these problems cleanly. 2018-12-23 16-23-28 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I'd be fine learning snap and doing snap packages 2018-12-23 16-00-44 PST Bryce Harrington it would have been a "remote" job, but would have required me to be on site 1 week per month for the first year (or relocate for 2 months). They were also looking for stronger 3D graphics skills than I have 2018-12-08 10-49-01 PST Bryce Harrington I also worry a bit when some of the things - like handling of sponsors - are project policy and procedure stuff, and if they're implemented in the website it locks those processes down. In the past I've noticed Martin will sometimes implement things differently than was agreed on, thus effectively rewriting policy as he wants, but then there's no option to change course so we just have to accept his will. It rubs me the wrong way. 2019-01-27 17-07-03 PST Bryce Harrington even with wacom it has been like this :-/ 2019-01-14 16-59-20 PST Bryce Harrington I know that's maybe not likely to happen, but who knows 2018-10-11 18-57-06 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks, sleep well :-) 2019-12-03 12-14-16 PST Bryce Harrington he'd rather be the project representative? 2019-01-27 16-40-25 PST Bryce Harrington in any case, it looks like it's been properly resolved now - they can still distribute the sw by terms of the GPL (as far as we understand it anyway), but we're not letting them use our trademarks to do so. 2019-05-11 16-01-27 PDT Bryce Harrington ttyl 2018-10-11 18-31-45 PDT Bryce Harrington no kidding 2019-10-18 18-06-27 PDT Bryce Harrington I feel badly for not having as much time as when I was between jobs 2019-12-03 12-10-16 PST Bryce Harrington well this is why I can't understand where martin's coming from with accusations like this that things are going rogue and no one has access to stuff. It's not true so what's he really getting at? 2019-01-15 14-24-18 PST Bryce Harrington Category is required but there is no option for anything like "tarball" or "software package" 2019-02-05 17-12-16 PST Bryce Harrington main challenge is that Conservancy has been 0% responsive to emails. :-/ Hoping whatever's kept them from responding resolves soon. 2019-12-03 12-33-01 PST Bryce Harrington but I think people already subbed to the lists and getting email properly should be no problem to add 2019-12-03 11-56-44 PST Bryce Harrington they'd gotten everything set up, and were ready to make an offer 2019-12-03 12-25-36 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I do feel there's unstated stuff, I appreciate when he (and others) are direct about stuff, I have so little time. The beating around the bush about stuff can feel passive aggressive sometimes, whether intended or not. 2019-12-03 12-35-04 PST Bryce Harrington ok, thanks for the chat. I really need to get back to work. 2019-05-01 18-37-38 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks :-) 2020-09-13 20-59-32 PDT Bryce Harrington Hi Moini, they were able to get the fire near us under control yesterday. It was close but we did not need to evacuate ourselves. The adjacent county to us was hit pretty hard so we have had some friends displaced, but they're starting to be able to get back home now. I think we're past the worst of things. Still can't go outside due to hazardous air though. It's like an apocalypse inside an apocalypse here in oregon. 2018-12-03 14-13-56 PST Bryce Harrington just wish I could do more to make things better for her. 2019-04-27 10-41-01 PDT Bryce Harrington it's actually a way better role for me - very similar to what I was doing maintaining X for Ubuntu, just that now I'll be maintaininng server bits like nginx, mailman3, databases, and so on 2019-06-17 15-03-09 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, especially with canonical there are lots of extra information channels to keep track of 2020-03-21 15-34-12 PDT Bryce Harrington cya, you have a good weekend too 2018-10-11 18-23-56 PDT Bryce Harrington ok, so you know of the backstory. I've been working with our lawyers and theirs to try and get them to rename 2019-04-02 13-25-48 PDT Bryce Harrington honestly I don't think Samsung quite knew how to put open source developers to good use, I felt I could have done a lot more 2018-12-08 12-29-18 PST Bryce Harrington the tools here aren't really the critical piece, it's finding someone who can handle things, like you mention. We get a person in such a role, and that's 95%. The last 5% isn't that intensive data-wise, and I do think a spreadsheet or something would be adequate 2019-12-03 11-45-47 PST Bryce Harrington I have little free time and I **really** don't want to spend what I have working with people that are going to be mad at me unreasonably 2019-02-05 18-59-54 PST Bryce Harrington I noticed, that's great :-) 2020-11-17 21-10-48 PST Bryce Harrington yeah, it's hard to be involved in the project now 2019-01-14 17-52-42 PST Bryce Harrington yes, that's my hope, I'd like to get some things moved ahead before I start a new job 2019-02-05 09-55-17 PST Bryce Harrington crossing fingers 2019-06-17 15-43-39 PDT Bryce Harrington we went to a restaurant once that had paper shopping bags full of corks sitting out in the lobby to give away, so I have a lifetime supply of corks. and my family members give me theirs 2019-01-15 14-57-33 PST Bryce Harrington I changed it recently, that may be the issue 2019-12-03 11-37-07 PST Bryce Harrington being moderator won't prevent the spam, it just lets you block people who are spamming after the fact 2019-04-02 13-22-07 PDT Bryce Harrington but I may take a break for a bit at that point and regroup. Redo the resume and so on. 2019-01-12 20-37-15 PST Bryce Harrington thanks 2018-11-17 13-38-48 PST Bryce Harrington yep 2019-04-12 16-24-10 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah this wasn't prompted by anything, I was just doing general research and noted it 2020-04-27 08-34-52 PDT Bryce Harrington hi Moini, thanks I'll take a look 2019-05-11 15-15-32 PDT Bryce Harrington ok thanks, I thought that was the case but wasn't sure. I wouldn't blame anyone for being upset with me for needing to scale things back. I feel badly about it myself. 2019-02-05 19-20-35 PST Bryce Harrington yes, that looks like the right assessment 2019-12-03 12-17-21 PST Bryce Harrington which I just paid myself, I didn't take the money out of the paypal account 2019-01-15 15-15-20 PST Bryce Harrington is that new, or was I removed? I used to be able to upload packages 2019-04-02 13-16-51 PDT Bryce Harrington man I tell you the interviewing stuff really sucks up a lot of my mental space, it's hard to keep aware of much outside my immediate circle 2019-09-05 09-05-36 PDT Bryce Harrington maybe it'll get better, but I've been telling myself that since I started. 2019-09-05 09-01-55 PDT Bryce Harrington Canonical didn't hire me because of my inkscape work, they didn't really care about that. It was due to my background with packaging on X.org and etc. 2019-12-03 11-31-57 PST Bryce Harrington I think martin is just angry with me that I'm putting in as much time as when I was laid off. Or maybe he wants control over more, so wants me out of the picture 2019-03-12 09-14-52 PDT Bryce Harrington you might see what Tav thinks 2019-06-17 16-02-44 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, gotta make sure to set up compose key Then it's Alt+"+e :-) 2020-03-21 15-18-58 PDT Bryce Harrington done.
https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/2020-03-06.log.html 2018-10-11 18-52-09 PDT Bryce Harrington the kids had a school jogathon this afternoon that I went to and watched them run 2019-10-18 18-00-32 PDT Bryce Harrington ok, just busy 2019-06-17 15-27-36 PDT Bryce Harrington we might do something, we have some ideas for terracing in the front, and if we're definitely staying here it may be worth it. 2019-03-25 11-24-54 PDT Bryce Harrington linkedin.com/in/johan-engelen-bb711110 2019-05-01 17-25-45 PDT Bryce Harrington hi :-) It was intense and overwhelming 2019-11-23 08-15-56 PST Bryce Harrington done 2019-12-03 12-05-49 PST Bryce Harrington yes, I agree, and that is what I have concluded too. Thus giving root access for Mc, and adding Scislac, you, and others list ops 2019-06-17 15-22-34 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah we drove around the residential area and there were deer all over the place, must have counted a dozen in one afternoon. And beautiful forests, fields, and rivers all around 2019-04-02 13-28-12 PDT Bryce Harrington in looking at my notes from when I had started in 2013, they had told us at the outset that the group had been green lighted for a 5-year plan, and so in hindsight that was probably no surprise it shut down 5 years later 2019-01-14 13-53-23 PST Bryce Harrington btw thank you so much for all you've been doing the last month or so, it's really helped ease my mind as I was taking care of stuff with my mom and on the job front. 2019-12-03 11-42-57 PST Bryce Harrington he does big changes and stuff without asking 2019-04-12 16-22-51 PDT Bryce Harrington @Moini I think those are probably fine as is, and since they've been up a while probably little benefit to changing them at this point anyway 2019-01-12 20-41-06 PST Bryce Harrington Yeah, I had hoped for takers on doing sponsorship management. But I can handle it for now until we find someone. Actually it probably makes sense for me to do it for a bit in order to get the process sorted out, and might help if the renewal reminders come from me. 2019-05-11 15-25-58 PDT Bryce Harrington yes it is a bit hard for me, but important. And I have enjoyed all the hackfests I've attended though. 2019-02-05 19-30-19 PST Bryce Harrington oh wow! 2019-04-02 13-33-37 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah 2019-01-15 14-21-06 PST Bryce Harrington I can't figure out how. this is frustrating 2019-01-16 10-20-15 PST Bryce Harrington thanks! 2018-10-11 18-51-48 PDT Bryce Harrington but we ate earlier 2019-12-03 11-45-06 PST Bryce Harrington "the mailing lists have gone rogue" 2019-12-03 12-30-07 PST Bryce Harrington just flag specific people for me and I'll add them. 2019-01-15 14-50-22 PST Bryce Harrington I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I click on my profile pic and it goes to my profile page. There isn't an administrative interface on that page, however there was an Administration link under my photo, which is how I got into it before. But it looks like a general purpose django administration screen, not just releases. Then I scroll down until I saw Releases and clicked on that, and there was a list of all releases, and I clicked on 0.92.4. This is how I've done it before, but it feels like I'm doing something wrong. It's a bit frustrating. 2019-06-17 15-46-30 PDT Bryce Harrington can't put my hands on the photo of it, but it takes up a whole wall 2019-10-01 08-13-58 PDT Bryce Harrington :-) 2019-04-02 13-13-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I keep racking my brain for ideas on how I could help them. They don't respond well to me nagging them about stuff, I have gotten chewed out a couple times now :-D 2019-03-12 09-07-37 PDT Bryce Harrington I recall when we set dates, there were concerns about the length of the event, so maybe people would prefer reducing it by a day? 2018-12-08 10-45-03 PST Bryce Harrington I know he means the best, but I really don't like how martin pushes to get everything implemented in the website. He does a lot of work, but he is largely the only one coding on it, and so the more going into it, the more of a single point failure it becomes. 2019-01-15 14-54-25 PST Bryce Harrington ok 2019-01-14 16-56-19 PST Bryce Harrington in my ideal world, the website release app would just suck that information in directly, so no one has to manually copy the info in at release time 2019-01-13 10-11-21 PST Bryce Harrington there's been some discussion so doubt the change would be a surprise, but you're probably right I should talk to him 2019-12-03 12-04-04 PST Bryce Harrington ...which in turn will make me want to spend less time around here, which means less done and more complaints... 2019-12-03 11-27-28 PST Bryce Harrington I can't believe martin said that, that really pisses me off 2019-06-17 15-06-59 PDT Bryce Harrington my wife's already been putting the new paycheck to work, getting us all new carpets downstairs, and talked to a siding guy this morning, and a roofer last week... 2018-10-11 18-21-08 PDT Bryce Harrington at least things are going good with Inkscape. 2019-12-03 12-17-55 PST Bryce Harrington which was fine, but I thought it'd be better to set up a non-profit to own it, and make sure it wasn't under my personal accounts 2019-01-27 16-42-41 PST Bryce Harrington I don't know enough to say whether or not this is a scam, but it certainly isn't representing our project well. That said, I'm still not 100% clear on whether this should be permitted or not, and I definitely agree in the future it would be good to do deeper research and/or have some policies to follow. 2019-01-15 14-35-33 PST Bryce Harrington do I need to wait on caching maybe? 2019-06-17 15-22-59 PDT Bryce Harrington but it's also at a commercial crossroads, with ships passing buy constantly 2020-03-08 21-38-04 PDT Bryce Harrington ftr, logs can be checked in here -- https://gitlab.com/inkscape-board/documents/-/tree/master/meetings%2Ftransc… 2019-01-27 17-06-12 PST Bryce Harrington there was a lawyer working on that, and I believe they did request they make some changes to bring it into GPL compliance, however I don't remember the current status. I do seem to recall there being additional work needed. 2018-12-08 12-36-14 PST Bryce Harrington http://agendav.org/ might be a lightweight option to look at 2019-01-06 14-48-01 PST Bryce Harrington sorry about changing the sponsors page. I reverted it back and described what to do to add contact(a)inkscape.org. Do you mind making that change, or is there another way we should coordinate it? 2018-12-21 20-12-54 PST Bryce Harrington thanks, yes was an interview, but unfortunately not the right job for me 2019-04-02 13-51-39 PDT Bryce Harrington well, I'm probably worrying for naught, I think everything is in my favor for this current position I'm waiting on word for. 2018-12-23 16-18-12 PST Bryce Harrington other things that had bothered me, in hindsight weren't that big of a deal and I could have solved those differently 2018-12-08 12-30-01 PST Bryce Harrington hah, interesting I didn't know that 2019-01-03 14-40-04 PST Bryce Harrington oh no, I got a few elbows :-/ I need to resend that 2019-02-05 19-05-51 PST Bryce Harrington oh, one thing glowforge is interested in is helping to fund MacOS devel work. I need to look up our plans there and try to establish something that can be donated to 2019-06-17 15-59-48 PDT Bryce Harrington zoe_hat.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/cA4KwCFRmiEvJXFps/zoe_hat.jpg) 2019-12-03 12-06-31 PST Bryce Harrington I am trying to get ted added as root on the new backup server, but unfortunately he doesn't have ssh/gpg keys for some reason. I should re-ping him 2019-04-02 13-14-36 PDT Bryce Harrington and talked with karen over the phone with half the board 2019-12-03 11-41-04 PST Bryce Harrington I have been through the django admin in detail, there's nothing for spam control 2019-02-05 17-00-49 PST Bryce Harrington oh which one? 2018-10-11 18-21-57 PDT Bryce Harrington there was a very good piece of news on a matter we've been dealing with confidentially 2019-03-25 11-24-48 PDT Bryce Harrington
johanengelen.github.io/ (Blog)
2019-12-03 11-49-55 PST Bryce Harrington well, I don't think you need to mediate, but at least let me thank you for listening, you're the one person I feel safe to share with 2019-08-29 11-35-10 PDT Bryce Harrington sure
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Tigard, OR 97224 2019-04-27 17-29-16 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks! 2019-04-02 13-18-49 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm really hoping I'll get an offer this week. If I don't, it's going to be back to square one and I think i'll be pretty miserable 2019-12-03 12-19-16 PST Bryce Harrington anyway, I feel like I've been a very good shepherd to these funds, and am perplexed why this would be an issue for martin 2019-01-16 09-56-53 PST Bryce Harrington the one issue I know of with it, that I didn't get fixed, is the original release notes has some .gif files embedded, that are referred to in the text, but of course those can't seen in plain text. i left the references in place but there's no images so it's a bit weird 2019-01-28 12-35-30 PST Bryce Harrington something I can bring up to discuss at next week's board meeting I suppose 2018-10-11 18-53-34 PDT Bryce Harrington they did remarkably well, my daughter did more laps than any other kids in her class, and my son did among the top 3. I never was at all athletic so this is amazing to me. Very proud of them. 2018-11-17 13-55-09 PST Bryce Harrington certainly, will do. And thanks for the chat, I'm leaving for mom's now. 2018-10-11 18-31-52 PDT Bryce Harrington it may happen though... 2019-06-17 15-12-09 PDT Bryce Harrington we've thought about moving quite a bit, rather than fixing it up. I still would love to move to Astoria, Oregon. But kids are in a good school and not really any good reason *to* move. Besides, if we do move, having all this maintenance work done should help in selling. And if we don't, then we get to enjoy the new stuff ourselves. :-) 2019-04-02 13-36-05 PDT Bryce Harrington I doubt we'd ever find a company willing to foot the entire bill for a developer, but maybe we could piece things together from several sponsors 2019-01-14 13-47-34 PST Bryce Harrington aha, thanks for investigating that 2019-12-03 12-16-59 PST Bryce Harrington I was getting so much in my paypal account that it was affecting my taxes 2019-06-17 15-59-48 PDT Bryce Harrington zoe_handstand.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/MuamnWBaXp9a47X9R/zoe_handstand.jpg) 2018-12-23 16-27-47 PST Bryce Harrington definitely a risk I'm happy to take 2019-03-12 09-14-44 PDT Bryce Harrington sounds good 2019-01-16 09-58-33 PST Bryce Harrington that's the script I run 2019-01-16 10-02-55 PST Bryce Harrington we haven't fixed a specific time, so could push it to late in the day PST (like in +12 hrs) and still claim we're on schedule. 2020-03-07 23-10-29 PST Bryce Harrington I will try to look into it tomorrow 2018-11-17 13-38-36 PST Bryce Harrington he'll need help 2020-07-21 11-20-04 PDT Bryce Harrington the media seems more focused on the late night altercations and the police (over-)reactions. I don't know what shows up in international news about it, but there's some good articles and lots of photos on oregonlive.com 2018-10-11 18-25-36 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, it's definitely huge for us, and for Conservancy - they did all the heavy lifting here and covered the costs of the legal work 2018-10-11 18-28-00 PDT Bryce Harrington I'll have to find some other job to occupy me ;-) 2019-01-05 10-02-52 PST Bryce Harrington I want to change the sponsors page to direct potential sponsors to contact(a)inkscape.org. 2018-10-11 18-39-10 PDT Bryce Harrington I do too. Even the news has been full of catastrophes this week. 2019-06-17 09-05-52 PDT Bryce Harrington sure, thanks for the prompt on that, I've commented it looks good 2019-02-05 09-54-37 PST Bryce Harrington alright I'll give it a try 2018-12-08 12-27-10 PST Bryce Harrington it occurs to me we have a variety of calendar/reminder needs, so might be useful to have a proper calendar system 2019-06-17 09-07-24 PDT Bryce Harrington intended to put some inkscape time in this weekend but it was Father's Day here in the US and had my dad up for the weekend, and my kids wanted a lot of my time 2019-12-03 11-43-49 PST Bryce Harrington I am afraid once I give him access to something, I find I end up losing control over it myself 2019-12-03 11-28-13 PST Bryce Harrington he's really been making me not want to work on Inkscape lately, with comments like those 2019-04-02 13-21-39 PDT Bryce Harrington I had applications going into several companies, which I've all interviewed with, and this is the last one I'm waiting on word from. I don't have other apps in anywhere, so if I don't get it, I'm going to be starting the search over, and doing new apps to new places. 2019-12-03 11-31-20 PST Bryce Harrington but it's *not* just one person 2019-12-03 11-46-59 PST Bryce Harrington at this point I'm thinking he'd be happier if I left and he ran the project directly himself 2019-06-17 15-19-00 PDT Bryce Harrington it's a quaint seaside town at the mouth of the Columbia River. Was one of the first places settled in Oregon. Mostly I'm drawn to the weather, it's got much cooler summers than here in Portland. 2019-01-16 10-03-59 PST Bryce Harrington I seem to recall some people wouldn't be around on the 17th, so if we need to delay past the 16th we might need to postpone for +1 week, but I know a lot of things are in motion to happen today 2019-01-15 14-31-41 PST Bryce Harrington but it should show up in Resource right? I seem to remember it has been there before 2019-03-12 09-22-49 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't think anyone's made travel arrangements yet. 2019-01-16 10-01-53 PST Bryce Harrington regarding the timing of the announcement, last night it sounded like there were still a lot of blockers and I wasn't sure if we were going to do it today. I haven't caught up on status this morning (been working on a few job related personal tasks), so am waiting for guidance from you and others. 2019-01-15 14-31-22 PST Bryce Harrington well, I can't find it in the list, I've gone through it three times. Maybe I did something wrong? 2019-06-17 15-26-22 PDT Bryce Harrington when it's hard clay, it's hard for the roots to penetrate, and drainage can be a problem too 2019-01-14 17-20-53 PST Bryce Harrington I'm not sure, but I think you may be imagining a bigger scoped thing here than I am actually planning to do... My apologies, I probably should not have made mention of it and caused any confusion... 2018-11-17 13-38-14 PST Bryce Harrington I'll be having Ryan take the lead on it; I've got a phone meeting set up with him and lawyers today to work out details 2019-04-02 13-14-26 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, I met with bradly for a good 45-60 minutes, with Ryan in tow 2019-12-03 11-59-11 PST Bryce Harrington I suspect that's why I'm particularly incensed about martin's comment that it "went rogue" 2019-12-03 11-55-19 PST Bryce Harrington in the meantime I ended up getting a job offer and took it 2019-03-12 08-58-46 PDT Bryce Harrington hmm 2020-01-01 21-38-43 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks, you too! 2019-04-02 13-56-13 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't remember, there were a couple positions I applied for 2019-12-03 12-13-38 PST Bryce Harrington I have read-only access to a Subversion feed for the individual transactions in ledger, that by SFC policy and our bylaws they give only to the "project representative" 2018-12-08 12-30-14 PST Bryce Harrington but it goes to my point that person first, tools second. 2019-06-17 15-08-48 PDT Bryce Harrington i.e. cheap ass american home manufacturing 2019-06-17 16-01-47 PDT Bryce Harrington she's impressed with your creations, she thought the penguin garbage can was funny, she just got a stuffed puffin gift today 2019-10-18 17-51-34 PDT Bryce Harrington sounds good! hope you're doing well 2019-01-14 16-57-53 PST Bryce Harrington no not at all 2019-01-27 16-37-02 PST Bryce Harrington keep in mind copyright and trademark are two separate things. I also think that they probably are satisfying GPL requirements, but GPL is copyright based. The name and logo are covered under trademark law, so is a different set of rules. 2018-11-17 13-13-36 PST Bryce Harrington hi, thanks again for listening to me the other day. my mom is not doing well, she was in the E.R. yesterday and a scan revealed she has terminal lung cancer. Today we are getting hospice care set up for her. 2019-06-17 16-00-15 PDT Bryce Harrington she wanted me to send you her pictures from her dance recital yesterday 2018-10-11 18-32-38 PDT Bryce Harrington in fact google's one of the places on the list, I have a couple friends there looking for graphics related roles there, but remote work is a bit of a challenge to find with them 2019-02-05 16-55-57 PST Bryce Harrington oh sorry, nevermind then. :-) It's a laser engraver/cutter tool, that works with Inkscape. They're joining as a gold level sponsor. 2019-12-03 11-39-22 PST Bryce Harrington or switching the lists to full moderation, where every email has to be approved, also laborious 2019-01-27 16-38-42 PST Bryce Harrington IANAL and esp. not an expert on trademark law, and you probably saw my comments on the bug report that I was uncertain about the permissiveness of what they're doing. I wasn't sure what the right course of action, so mostly deferred to Pam since she *is* a lawyer and knows trademark law well. 2019-12-03 12-33-34 PST Bryce Harrington Moini, for the user list access you have, does that give you permissions to add other mods? 2019-04-27 17-18-41 PDT Bryce Harrington yes 2019-01-16 09-54-32 PST Bryce Harrington good morning 2019-12-03 11-40-26 PST Bryce Harrington even that isn't perfect, I still get spams in my home account, and I know SA is working there 2018-10-11 18-35-04 PDT Bryce Harrington hah, yeah doubt I'll ever go back to that 2019-12-03 11-55-04 PST Bryce Harrington however it drug on weeks. I actually thought they'd forgotten, but they were working on it privately 2019-02-05 19-04-44 PST Bryce Harrington I want to start using gitlab issues to shadow the RT tickets. It's getting hard for me to keep mental track of everything 2019-12-03 11-52-48 PST Bryce Harrington honestly, I was spending a good share of my Samsung work time on Inkscape stuff, and I don't think that was good for my professional fortunes 2019-06-17 15-08-21 PDT Bryce Harrington the exterior covering of the house, e.g. shingles or boards; in our case we have vinyl siding that is starting to get pretty brittle and has broken in a few places 2020-07-21 11-18-06 PDT Bryce Harrington Thanks, yes we watched the protests last night via livestreams. Last night was huge, I think one of the biggest marches so far, lots of moms in yellow 2020-03-08 21-38-47 PDT Bryce Harrington the files need to follow the same format as the other logs in order to html-ify them properly. 2020-11-17 21-13-33 PST Bryce Harrington hoping the new rocketchat will be better in that respect but we'll see 2019-01-14 16-53-47 PST Bryce Harrington yeah I need to get word out to all the packagers, I'll try and remember to do that today 2019-12-03 11-31-01 PST Bryce Harrington Mc has root access on the mailing list now 2019-01-28 12-33-28 PST Bryce Harrington and yeah I was thinking Legal maybe as a sub-group of the Board group in gitlab, it looks like that way all the board members would be included but we could also add people just for Legal, such as our lawyers, or other project members with a specific interest in working on these kinds of tasks. 2019-01-14 16-58-49 PST Bryce Harrington well like I said, ideal world there'd just be a script that fills it in using what's in the .yml. 2019-05-11 15-41-29 PDT Bryce Harrington yep, it'll be interesting to see how things go 2018-10-11 18-19-48 PDT Bryce Harrington my mom's really sick and is getting checked into the hospital right now, things don't look very good 2019-10-18 18-02-09 PDT Bryce Harrington encryption renewal for the website or something 2020-07-25 01-30-33 PDT Bryce Harrington peaceful demonstrations involving thousands of people occur between about 5pm and midnight, then around midnight or so, until 3am is when the altercations occur that you'll see in the media, which are like 20-40 federal police vs. 100-200 well-equipped folks. 2018-10-11 18-47-59 PDT Bryce Harrington no, the hospital is just across town, she lives in a retirement center not far from me. 2019-12-03 11-45-17 PST Bryce Harrington it's not ok with me! 2018-10-11 18-23-03 PDT Bryce Harrington this is still confidential but I think we're close to being able to make it public. Keep it to yourself for now 2020-03-21 15-33-52 PDT Bryce Harrington No problem, it just isn't automated. I had ambitions of hooking it up via CI, but didn't sort out the dependencies for running the script. The pieces are there if someone wanted to complete that work. 2019-02-05 16-56-26 PST Bryce Harrington they're interested in seeing improvements that are important to their customer, so I'm curious what those improvements might be 2019-01-12 20-41-24 PST Bryce Harrington I'm working with Ian on getting mailman3 finished up. It's a bit of a slog but progress is moving forward. After that, I want to try setting up a (probably private) mailing list for sponsorship management so that I am not bottlenecking it. For the time being, contact(a)inkscape.org is just directing to me. 2020-04-29 16-25-21 PDT Bryce Harrington I've posted a couple thoughts, hope it helps. 2019-04-02 13-31-20 PDT Bryce Harrington it makes me wonder if for Inkscape, it would be to our benefit to move from Cairo to Skia 2019-01-16 09-56-08 PST Bryce Harrington Yes, I used the script to generate the NEWS file included in the package, and then manually improved the formatting a bit to make it consistent with what we shipped in 0.92.3. You can copy and use that file 2020-11-17 21-13-11 PST Bryce Harrington I do know people @ me on rocketchat but a lot of time I can't actually find the mention in the backlog. 2019-04-02 13-54-31 PDT Bryce Harrington Canonical's HR is really slow so wouldn't surprise me if it ends up taking a while 2019-06-17 15-26-40 PDT Bryce Harrington so have to dig it up and mix in lots and lots of sand and mulch to make it work 2019-06-17 09-29-26 PDT Bryce Harrington and yeah, I haven't been spending as much time with the kids during the workweek so they take advantage of the weekends 2020-11-06 13-06-01 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks for letting me know about Ryan, I hope he's doing ok. 2019-04-02 13-28-56 PDT Bryce Harrington Firefox no longer uses it, but there are some GNOME components that do. At this point I think Inkscape may be the major user of it. 2019-06-17 15-38-01 PDT Bryce Harrington corkboard.jpg (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/SLknM7yeXdaw7kJFJ/corkboard.jpg) 2019-04-02 13-16-10 PDT Bryce Harrington oh, I hadn't heard they were in the middle of a lawsuit 2018-12-23 16-15-40 PST Bryce Harrington I was concerned that the move to Mir was going to make my role less relevant, but now they've given up on that. In fact the time I spent working on Wayland is probably a value I'd be bringing back. 2019-06-17 14-47-25 PDT Bryce Harrington it is; I'm sitting at it now in fact. the monitor layout has changed considerably, I'm up to 5 monitors now :-) 2019-01-14 16-57-28 PST Bryce Harrington what I have in mind, would not have much actual text in it, just version numbers, dates, names, and links to relevant resources 2019-11-17 18-45-38 PST Bryce Harrington done 2018-10-11 18-27-30 PDT Bryce Harrington I was kind of half hoping they'd choose to buy us off for some insanely huge amount of money so we could start having some paid workers, but oh well, this is good too ;-) 2019-02-05 19-11-08 PST Bryce Harrington I'll have to put some thought in then 2018-11-17 13-34-38 PST Bryce Harrington no, I just wanted you to know, I know I can rely on you to fill in where it's needed 2019-02-05 17-01-01 PST Bryce Harrington http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Sponsors_list 2019-04-02 13-57-14 PDT Bryce Harrington I'd been waiting on word back for a desktop team role for months (still waiting, technically, I guess); but some co-workers suggested I go for this cloud management position, so that's what I'm gunning for now. 2019-04-02 13-25-12 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah, maintaining Cairo and making features for it, and doing various stuff on Wayland and EFL and other projects 2020-09-06 00-56-21 PDT Bryce Harrington Yes, things are a bit intense in Portland now. Everything's ok with me. Last week was out of town on vacation, this week super busy with work. 2018-12-03 14-17-09 PST Bryce Harrington how are things with you? 2019-12-03 11-44-44 PST Bryce Harrington not lot out, just be socially unable to make any changes to it myself, else he will get mad at me 2018-12-08 12-34-51 PST Bryce Harrington scp should work though, might be possible to get sftp working for it, if it isn't already, if that would be an option. 2019-03-20 22-49-38 PDT Bryce Harrington I tell you what... job hunting is a job in itself! (and one with crap for salary!) 2020-07-25 01-43-32 PDT Bryce Harrington I'm going to go drop off supplies to the protestors downtown tomorrow or Sunday. 2019-02-05 19-10-58 PST Bryce Harrington ok, hrm 2018-11-11 13-53-28 PST Bryce Harrington I know we probably need to do some more scrubbing to finish 2geom's move off github 2018-10-11 18-50-31 PDT Bryce Harrington early morning for you? 2019-09-04 18-10-29 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks for responding to everyone, and what you've told them is all correct. I feel badly that I've not been able to work on the mail server, it's a bit intimidating tbh. 2018-12-08 12-37-26 PST Bryce Harrington he was talking about it, but I think that was just for hosting the raw data (.ics files), not for a web calendar interface 2019-01-15 14-51-13 PST Bryce Harrington I'll look through the list again 2019-03-12 09-25-18 PDT Bryce Harrington yeah. People will probably also be pretty tired by that point too 2019-01-15 14-45-51 PST Bryce Harrington what is the correct way to get into the releases app? 2019-12-03 11-44-21 PST Bryce Harrington then if/when things break I get the blame and he expresses to everyone that he's angry with me 2019-05-11 16-01-18 PDT Bryce Harrington speaking of which, my daughter is demanding I go play with her, as I promised I'd do "later, maybe this weekend when I have some time" ;-) 2019-12-03 12-31-43 PST Bryce Harrington I also discovered that several people I tried adding as moderators (who were moderators on the old lists), caused bounces in the new system 2019-12-03 11-40-50 PST Bryce Harrington how is it django? 2019-03-12 09-14-01 PDT Bryce Harrington I don't know whether LGM has done the city tour before, but I've done that with XDC and UDS events. 2019-01-16 09-59-19 PST Bryce Harrington and actually I've wondered if a different formatting (e.g. markdown) would be better for the NEWS file. Something to decide later. 2019-11-17 18-40-08 PST Bryce Harrington mailman needs an upgrade too, the ui is buggy 2018-11-11 13-53-06 PST Bryce Harrington yes, gitlab 2019-10-18 18-03-43 PDT Bryce Harrington and yeah emails' going to be easier for me, I can't easily follow rocketchat 2019-03-12 09-00-28 PDT Bryce Harrington what's the photo tour? 2019-06-17 09-27-54 PDT Bryce Harrington yes, I love doing that but been a long time since I had time to work on projects. Here's one I did a while ago - http://www.bryceharrington.org/Desk/ 2019-12-03 12-16-04 PST Bryce Harrington I've donated thousands of dollars to Inkscape personally, and only took reimbursement once iirc, for the pasadena hackfest when I was laid off 2019-01-13 10-12-23 PST Bryce Harrington it's weird though because he sort of took over doing sponsor management, I don't think anyone specifically asked him to do it, it's always ultimately been my job, he just kind of inserted himself into the process because the website was using the generic contact form 2018-10-11 18-23-15 PDT Bryce Harrington Wacom has a product named Inkspace, and filed for trademark 2018-10-11 18-45-40 PDT Bryce Harrington thank you for listening, that's more helpful than anything 2019-12-03 11-54-03 PST Bryce Harrington but I said if the board could figure out a way to employ me, I'd be willing to shift to working full time on Inkscape. It'd be a huge financial sacrifice but I was willing to do it for the project 2018-12-08 12-26-43 PST Bryce Harrington an auto-reminder is a great idea, I just don't think it needs to be done as a part of the website. 2019-12-03 11-46-17 PST Bryce Harrington I feel bad enough not having time for Inkscape anymore, he just pours salt in the wounds 2019-06-17 16-02-04 PDT Bryce Harrington dinner time, gtg 2019-06-17 15-27-51 PDT Bryce Harrington but yeah, depends on how much $$ we want to invest 2019-04-02 13-30-51 PDT Bryce Harrington at Samsung, one of my projects was to evaluate GPU accelerated performance of Cairo vs. Google's Skia. Skia did very well 2020-11-18 00-25-16 PST Bryce Harrington if there's anything you are personally blocking on a reply from me, I apologize. Please re-ping in these cases and I'll do my best to help. I've been trying, but 2020 has been a challenging year to stay on top of things. 2019-01-14 16-54-24 PST Bryce Harrington it's on my todo list to work on ppas, but 2ndary priority atm. hard to predict if it'll be trivial or hard... 2019-12-03 11-58-12 PST Bryce Harrington writing and applying for grants, yes 2019-12-03 12-12-21 PST Bryce Harrington it's actually all provided by the Conservancy 2018-11-17 13-51-06 PST Bryce Harrington we'll need to define what our messaging strategy is, and then I think it makes sense to brainstorm what specific actions will be worth undertaking 2019-11-17 18-41-20 PST Bryce Harrington sure 2019-01-05 09-39-35 PST Bryce Harrington they link to one email, which could be either someone's individual email address, or a mailing list I suppose. 2018-12-08 12-31-57 PST Bryce Harrington nextcloud looks interesting; I must have missed that discussion, but the Nextcloud Groupware says it has a calendar and contacts 2018-12-23 16-28-25 PST Bryce Harrington thanks for the chat :-) my sister's visiting the kids so am going to go hang out and socialize. Have a great Christmas! 2019-10-01 07-55-10 PDT Bryce Harrington Yes, I took Tav and Mc out for dinner on the Wednesday night, and we walked down the main street to the Arc and down to the Louvre. They took some photos of us, but I haven't seen how they turned out. 2019-12-03 11-32-23 PST Bryce Harrington at this point I am ready to just give up 2019-09-04 18-16-16 PDT Bryce Harrington every time I look at mailman3 I find more bugs. 2018-10-11 18-58-40 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks you too! 2019-05-11 16-00-18 PDT Bryce Harrington yes... I am apprehensive though because last time I was at Canonical it really sucked dry all my energy for technical matters. I had little time left except attend board meetings. It would be nice if that didn't happen this time, but so far signs aren't pointed favorably... 2019-02-05 17-01-31 PST Bryce Harrington I'm going to contact all the expired/expiring sponsors as soon as I get some spare moments 2019-04-02 13-34-28 PDT Bryce Harrington I had hoped Samsung would be that; it's one of the reasons I had joined them to begin with, I thought I could work on Cairo full time, but they kept shifting strategy every 6 months and kept moving me off Cairo to other things 2020-07-25 01-45-07 PDT Bryce Harrington There's a group "Riot Ribs" that cooks food for free for protestors + homeless people + whomeever. We're going to give them food & cleaning supplies. 2019-03-20 22-44-36 PDT Bryce Harrington I had a really good interview today with a company here in Portland. They have zero interest in Inkscape (although one of the interviewers was a big fan), so if I join them then no dice. But if instead I return to Canonical (also a possibility), they've always been flexible on allowing time (and even sponsorship) to attend open source events, so that'd be a maybe. 2019-05-11 15-32-19 PDT Bryce Harrington lots to learn, but has been great reconnecting with folks, and parts of the job are like being back in your own home after a long time gone. I know where to look for stuff, and somehow remember how to do lots of random things. 2018-12-23 16-16-56 PST Bryce Harrington Second I was concerned that the profligate spending on crazy projects was going to tank the company, and they did end up having mass layoffs. But the desktop team survived and I think the company may be in better financial shape. But I'm less worried about this now. 2019-04-02 13-14-07 PDT Bryce Harrington I sympathize though, I ***really*** want to get moving on soliciting more sponsors for us, but it's hard for me to justify it when I know the invoicing is going to take 2-3 months or more 2019-02-05 17-11-02 PST Bryce Harrington then we can ask them to resub in a year 2019-02-05 19-17-04 PST Bryce Harrington that's good, yes I see he gave a good summary of the situation, and there's a good post from another person summarizing the state of things 2019-02-05 19-30-57 PST Bryce Harrington yeah it snowed here last night for the first time this season. Kids have been on snow day away from school (and underfoot!) all day. They say more snow's coming. 2019-12-03 11-33-05 PST Bryce Harrington I literally *just* did ALL of the mailing list admin/moderation last weekend 2018-10-11 18-18-57 PDT Bryce Harrington Samsung is laying off the entire Open Source Group, just found out Monday 2019-09-06 15-10-16 PDT Bryce Harrington thanks 2019-12-03 11-43-16 PST Bryce Harrington he decides how he wants to do things and doesn't accept my input or advice 2019-02-05 17-03-56 PST Bryce Harrington what do you think? Should we give them a complimentary bronze for a year, since we didn't list them? 2019-06-17 15-04-08 PDT Bryce Harrington trello boards, bunch of irc channels, build processes, two email accounts, etc. 2018-12-23 15-59-10 PST Bryce Harrington Thanks, merry christmas to you too! 2019-02-05 19-27-38 PST Bryce Harrington it sounds like the first focus for the group should be gathering and assembling all the brainstorms and info dumping, and start getting it organized, maybe in a wiki page or gitlab issue 2019-04-27 10-40-05 PDT Bryce Harrington I didn't get on with that cloud management group at Canonical, but they gave me a super good referral to the Ubuntu Server team, and they've hired me. I start Wednesday. :-) 2018-10-11 18-51-39 PDT Bryce Harrington no, they're at their grandparents, and my wife's at the hospital 2019-02-22 11-01-10 PST Bryce Harrington I'll follow up with him if he starts acting reasonable, but I'm not impressed so far 2019-02-05 19-00-15 PST Bryce Harrington sounds like they all went well, I expect they'll be exhausted, but hope we get some movement on some RT tickets we've been waiting on 2019-01-15 14-29-06 PST Bryce Harrington however it's a very long list and I'm not sure how it's sorted. I am not able to locate the link 2019-12-03 12-07-25 PST Bryce Harrington and I added martin as root on wiki.inkscape.org to take that entire task over from me 2018-12-08 12-36-51 PST Bryce Harrington of course, we could even just use google calendar until someone has time to set up a proper foss tool 2019-06-17 15-23-37 PDT Bryce Harrington hah yes true 2019-01-14 13-52-50 PST Bryce Harrington I think we're getting close on mailman3 :-) 2019-01-14 16-55-55 PST Bryce Harrington oh, I'm also going to start generating a .yml file with the source tarball, with the details needed for the releases app 2019-11-17 18-39-00 PST Bryce Harrington yeah 2019-06-17 15-05-09 PDT Bryce Harrington although not as badly as when I was working on X.org 2020-03-09 00-09-33 PDT Bryce Harrington [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/Moini?msg=zhhr7eMMRXb7nTxtA) All the board members have commit access to the documents repo. If you'd like access as well, I don't see that there'd be a problem. () 2019-12-03 12-16-40 PST Bryce Harrington did you know that the reason we started with SFC is because originally people just sent donations for Inkscape to me directly? 2019-05-11 15-02-53 PDT Bryce Harrington I thought maybe I'd still be unemployed by then and could come, or something 2019-01-13 18-42-52 PST Bryce Harrington Yes, I'm sure you're right. I'll send an email explaining what I want to propose. 2019-09-04 18-11-40 PDT Bryce Harrington Mostly I feel bad for blocking the project's progress. I noticed people had discovered that I hadn't turned off the old lists, and were using them, and that seemed like a perfectly fine workaround. 2019-12-03 12-26-12 PST Moini It's why I tag you when I see it, so you can make it direct. 2019-09-05 04-14-18 PDT Moini (so maybe that plays a role in my thinking of what is right) 2019-09-05 04-10-27 PDT Moini And currently, there isn't anything to break on the mail server, right? It can only get better. 2018-12-19 10-24-25 PST Moini Good luck! (if the out-of-town thing is what I think it is) 2019-04-02 13-39-19 PDT Moini sorry, brb 2019-12-03 11-56-18 PST Moini What was the reply? 2018-12-03 14-11-59 PST Moini It's good that you're doing that, rather than spend time on Inkscape. Not that we don't miss you here, but taking that time is much, much more important for you. 2019-12-03 11-33-58 PST Moini For what I know, he sees bottleneck issues and tries to get rid of them.
It's cool that you did that, thank you. But wouldn't it be good if more people can help? 2019-01-16 10-16-49 PST Moini No announcement prepared. 2019-12-04 13-04-50 PST Moini (and tell everyone who might open it...) 2020-03-07 09-14-47 PST Moini Hi Bryce! Hope you're doing well. Do you know who else but you has access to upload files into https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/ ? It's missing 3 meetings already by now. 2018-10-11 18-22-27 PDT Moini That's good, too. 2020-03-21 15-22-03 PDT Moini Hey, thank you! Have a nice weekend, Bryce! 2019-04-02 14-04-13 PDT Moini So, let's see if you'll get to be the next cloud manager :) 2019-01-27 17-04-13 PST Moini We do have policies, only nobody read them, or did any research. FWIW, I don't think it's scam. They just provide a bad experience on low-end hardware and don't warn about that. Having ads in an Android app... well, that isn't exactly an exception. Anyway, they changed the name - if that was what we wanted (why? It's permitted in our rules), then we got it. They don't distribute the software, they give access to it. I agree that next time, we should give the lawyer a hand with any technical topics before they can go wild. I thought it was Conservancy's stance to talk with people first - just like I thought it was ours to be permissive in the use of the trademarks, if they are not clearly misrepresenting Inkscape. Maybe next time... (btw. the ~clearly wrong~ edit: suspicious usage by that Digital Fashion Pro scam is still ongoing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUa6-dMv9-8 - why do we allow that? Has anyone ever found out if they comply to the GPL?) 2019-12-03 11-29-45 PST Moini I can understand that. 2019-05-11 15-04-12 PDT Moini But I understand you'd have liked to be there. 2019-01-16 07-16-41 PST Moini 6. Do this task distribution at least 3 weeks in advance. Ask back if everyone knows what they need to do. 2019-01-16 10-16-08 PST Moini Homebrew: no idea. 2019-01-15 14-40-06 PST Moini Want me to download and re-upload? 2018-10-11 18-48-21 PDT Moini Ah, yes. You told us about the move to somewhere closer to you. 2019-09-05 04-06-51 PDT Moini You don't have to fix it yourself. 2019-12-03 11-59-06 PST Moini You did that :) 2019-01-15 14-53-43 PST Moini Thank you. 2018-12-23 16-04-30 PST Moini He, it's good that you do :) 2019-11-23 16-40-58 PST Moini I've still got access. 2019-12-03 12-34-38 PST Moini Yes, that will work. 2019-01-15 10-40-50 PST Moini Bryce, will you upload the source to inkscape.org? 2019-01-15 14-26-24 PST Moini I'd prefer solving the issue, but I can't right now. 2019-01-30 17-01-55 PST Moini Thanks, Bryce. Note that a 'guest' status would - edit: probably - (not tested) be sufficient - 'reporter' means I can also edit descriptions, labels etc.
I'll pack my stuff for tomorrow now - good night! 2019-10-18 17-53-21 PDT Moini Hi - Martin wants to contact you about board business, as you're currently only sporadically available. 2019-01-15 14-47-03 PST Moini (click on your profile pic and go to Admin interface from there) 2019-11-17 18-46-56 PST Moini Vectors yes, but for devel, no, thanks. I'm already getting enough 'this message requires your action' emails for translators, user (and now vectors). 2019-01-14 17-07-26 PST Moini It's multiple db tables. 2019-01-16 10-21-25 PST Moini I can fit in publishing tomorrow. 2019-04-05 06-58-42 PDT Moini Sending kind thoughts your way. 2019-04-02 13-23-42 PDT Moini Ah, so that is a reason. 2019-01-16 10-04-38 PST Moini Chris is still working on his video. 2019-01-16 09-58-35 PST Moini Ah, you already did it! 2019-12-03 11-30-23 PST Moini The goal is to avoid bottlenecks. 2019-01-16 07-23-25 PST Moini Some will always remain, and something will always suddenly pop up. 2019-03-27 08-59-19 PDT Moini Yes, your email works fine. I was only hesitant to post a 'yes I would mind' as a reply. Can you find another tester, please? 2019-04-02 13-18-00 PDT Moini Focussing on what's important, that's not a bad thing to do :) 2018-11-17 13-48-24 PST Moini Oh, I see, that's a large thing to tackle. I think Ryan will fill me in on the details when he knows them (so you don't need to now). 2019-01-15 14-22-32 PST Moini Choose to upload something. 2018-12-23 15-59-30 PST Moini Thanks :) 2019-01-15 14-30-38 PST Moini It's fine. Is it uploaded already? 2019-02-05 17-02-20 PST Moini Those were the ones that paid 600(?)$, but didn't introduce themselves as an official sponsor. 2019-01-15 14-54-00 PST Moini Would you please publish it? 2019-01-15 14-32-06 PST Moini I'm not sure what you mean by 'resource' where it should show up. Are you in the releases app already? 2019-01-15 14-33-24 PST Moini Link, please :) 2019-01-14 17-10-37 PST Moini Plus the pictures, they need to be uploaded somewhere. Part goes into the releases app, part goes somewhere where Martin's extraction script puts them. 2019-12-03 11-38-52 PST Moini I'm not angry with you. 2019-04-02 13-38-18 PDT Moini So, the alternative you're looking into is 'cloud'? Anything specific? 2019-12-03 11-36-10 PST Moini And we do now. 2019-01-16 10-21-11 PST Moini If it's only pushing some buttons, and Alex is quick, we could still release tomorrow. 2019-11-23 16-40-45 PST Moini Bildschirmfoto_2019-11-24_01-39-35.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/ksWdTL3Jjtw8fqpB3/Bildschirmfoto_2019…) 2018-10-11 18-44-13 PDT Moini I wish I knew what to say :-/ 2019-01-16 09-58-13 PST Moini Not this one: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blob/master/packaging/mkNEWS 2019-01-16 10-02-55 PST Moini lol. 2018-10-11 18-34-50 PDT Moini Even rocket science ;-) 2019-12-03 11-28-50 PST Moini He is pissed off, too... 2019-01-14 17-03-25 PST Moini We have lots of descriptions and instructions there. Most downloads actually consist of those, except for Windows. 2020-08-21 08-00-58 PDT Moini Bryce, do you have access to the chat server via SSH? I'm asking because of https://gitlab.com/inkscape/infra/services/-/issues/43 - Manuel hasn't said a word since the (possibly failed?) update. Although, the emojis contain one with a face mask... So maybe the info in the Administration tab is wrong. It would just be good to know, I find it really horrible that noone seems to be able to check the server... 2019-01-08 17-10-02 PST Moini Sorry, had to delete that again, due to https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/305 2019-12-03 11-36-31 PST Moini It's not suddenly, Bryce. 2019-12-03 11-43-21 PST Moini That's something that he has done, yes. 2019-10-18 18-11-10 PDT Moini That's what I told Martin, too... 2019-10-18 17-54-49 PDT Moini He's worried that things may start piling up sooner or later. 2019-01-15 15-01-02 PST Moini Fix it for all uploads and update. 2019-01-15 15-04-39 PST Moini Also, best do a test download to see if it's been uploaded properly. 2019-12-03 11-57-45 PST Moini Yes, the part about 'writing grants' I guess. 2019-01-16 07-20-58 PST Moini (you can still do things later, but not before that time) 2019-01-15 14-31-39 PST Moini Or what are you looking for? 2019-12-03 12-13-32 PST Moini (where's that dragon with the treasure chest icon to put under your reply?) 2019-01-27 17-07-11 PST Moini :-( 2019-04-12 16-23-53 PDT Moini Messaged Michèle about that already. 2019-03-12 09-18-27 PDT Moini Yes. Esp. as Jabier's and Mihaela's workshop is on the last day.... 2018-10-11 18-24-08 PDT Moini Wow. 2019-01-15 14-27-48 PST Moini Trying to reach Martin. 2019-02-05 17-03-30 PST Moini Didn't know if they were still on that list for you. Thanks :) 2018-12-23 16-03-21 PST Moini Plus community management, obviously. 2019-12-03 11-54-37 PST Moini Ah, I've heard hinting at something like that, but nothing firm. 2018-12-03 14-17-22 PST Moini Yes, it's hard to not be able to help much, make things better. I think you're already doing all you can, making things as good as is possible. 2019-12-04 13-03-54 PST Moini Forgot to tell you yesterday that I finally gave the certificate into the mail. Hope it's going to survive transport, there's glass in the frame. Please be careful when opening! 2020-04-25 13-13-06 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, I'm currently trying to get a few people to reply to the questions in https://framaforms.org/inkscape-contributor-interview-1587833730 for the 1.0 release news item (or a later one) - would you be up to answering a couple questions?
I know you currently don't have a lot of time for contributing, but there's also a field at the bottom where you can write what you want, and I'd really like to 'hear your voice' in the article. Maybe some historical background, or really anything that you'd like to share with our users for the 1.0. 2019-12-03 11-42-52 PST Moini That's what I thought. 2019-03-12 09-23-14 PDT Moini Not sure, Mc was asking about dates yesterday for Elisa. 2019-11-23 16-40-36 PST Moini Bryce, whatever you did, it didn't work: 2019-01-16 17-45-17 PST Moini Bryce, if you're still there, can you fix Mihaela's promise of travel refund for a new dev here, if appropriate: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/general?msg=xrN43Hyuyjhuimi2N () 2019-01-16 07-25-23 PST Moini 10. Make it clear to everyone who will be the one to take on the final 'publishing', set a distinct time for that, or meet up with the people who will take part in it to coordinate. 2019-01-07 17-01-52 PST Moini Done. I hope there's going to be more than one person reading these. 2019-01-16 10-02-40 PST Moini Okay, catch up! 2018-12-08 12-24-44 PST Moini I see what you mean, but can't take it back now :-(
An auto-expiring sponsor image wouldn't be too bad, though? (I think that already exists, it just isn't used). If that then sends a reminder out when a sponsorship expires, to a mailing list or to a set of people who are responsible? This would make things easier for adding and removing, too, because editing that horrible cms isn't working too well. It would still be handled by a human, who is responsible for keeping things in accordance to the rules. 2019-10-18 17-57-29 PDT Moini Hope things are going okay for you, Bryce. 2019-11-17 18-40-52 PST Moini (and if you haven't yet, could you approve my emails to devel + announce, please? For the voting.) 2019-12-03 11-35-04 PST Moini I don't want to do ALL of the mailing list admin on my weekend... 2020-03-20 06-36-04 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Marc has added a log file to the repository, but something doesn't seem to have worked out. It can be downloaded, but it's not available as HTML. When you have some time, would you have a look? 2019-01-06 18-46-38 PST Moini I mean the [man page and tutorials, including translations](https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation). They are being recreated from their sources automatically, using gitlab CI. The Inkscape website pulls the built docs from [here](https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-docs/documentation-export). It currently only has a single branch, which is for 0.92.x.
The new 1.0 command line (https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/418#note_118734400) is very different from the one for 0.92.x, and will require a serious overhaul of the man page. This hasn't happened yet, and I think the coding is also not finalized yet, so might still change (and we don't have a documentation branch for it).
No need to revert (did that actually work without breaking the website?), just let people know what you changed, so translations can be adjusted. I don't understand what you mean by 'described what to do to add...' - where? Yes, I can adjust the contact us link to a mailto:, if that's all that's needed - can even be done for translations without requiring a translation. 2019-04-05 06-56-59 PDT Moini Yes, it's difficult, you've invested a lot of effort and hope. 2019-06-17 15-33-03 PDT Moini I've also learnt that there's always something to do with house and garden. But it's worth it, we've got so many insects in the garden now, and even three frogs in the mini pond. It's just nice to watch and listen. 2019-01-15 15-00-48 PST Moini So you have a couple of options: 2019-12-03 12-12-07 PST Moini I don't know how that is done with Conservancy. 2019-01-15 14-24-42 PST Moini You should have 'Inkscape package' in your list. 2019-12-03 12-04-32 PST Moini I will be blunt, because the solution is jumping at me ... which is, share responsibilities. Then people can fix the complaints themselves. 2018-10-11 18-21-46 PDT Moini People are working together well, and things are moving forward. 2019-04-02 13-53-31 PDT Moini Did they say when they will get back to you? 2019-01-16 10-16-43 PST Moini The news is ready. 2019-05-11 15-00-15 PDT Moini I'm not! 2019-06-17 15-24-33 PDT Moini Sounds smart :) 2019-12-03 12-27-32 PST Moini It's always easier to see in others. 2019-04-02 13-33-16 PDT Moini If this were Michèle on this end, I know she'd ask: Now where do we get that big company sponsor that will sponsor that. 2020-04-27 10-03-16 PDT Moini Oh, cool :) 2019-10-01 08-10-13 PDT Moini I guess that means that you had enough work going on during the day. Some fun is the right thing, then :) 2019-01-15 15-06-42 PST Moini It looks like it should be working with a signature that fits the upload... https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/master/resources/models.py#L4… 2019-01-13 08-35-45 PST Moini Okay, I'm glad there will be a mailing list - because the order in which this was done (change email address before a mailing list exists) would make me feel like you aren't trusting me, if I were Martin. Have you told him about the change? 2019-02-06 05-29-26 PST Moini We're joking that we have a 'walk-in fridge' now :) Cool, having no school because of snow is fun, hope it's not going to get too bad, though. Ours has thawed away, it wasn't much anyway. 2019-01-14 16-54-26 PST Moini Mc will update Windows store 2019-06-17 15-35-21 PDT Moini Ooh, I see :) 2019-01-16 17-45-40 PST Moini (Florida is far and Pasadena is expensive...) 2019-01-05 09-40-27 PST Moini Okay, thanks! As mailing lists are currently stalled, I think I don't want one currently. 2019-01-16 10-08-24 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues/311 2019-12-03 12-30-57 PST Moini I think the 'add the board' request was for having a reliable 'base'. Personally, I'd ask them first, because it means they get emails. 2019-03-12 09-15-16 PDT Moini Yes, I think he was the one who mostly cared about the length (beside myself). 2019-07-12 10-07-06 PDT Moini In case you're there, maybe you get email messages: the board meeting has begun. Hope all is well! 2019-01-15 14-22-09 PST Moini Okay, so: Visit https://inkscape.org 2019-01-16 10-14-19 PST Moini ppa: todo, flatpak: unknown, need to look. macPorts: Thomas made a merge request. 2019-03-20 16-48-22 PDT Moini Bryce, I saw you added yourself to the list of people to invite for the hackfest. - Does that mean you might be able to attend? Or would you like an invitation first ;-) ? 2019-12-03 11-44-38 PST Moini And I have never seen him put the blame on someone else. 2019-05-01 17-52-37 PDT Moini Sounds like a good version of a 'normal' first day :) Lots of new info, lots of new responsibilities, but also some people you already know. Have a good second day tomorrow! 2019-02-05 19-04-00 PST Moini I'm hoping they'll open a ticket for Bremen :) But it's not urgent, as long as they don't forget. It's even below the lower amount from the board vote. 2019-12-03 12-08-33 PST Moini I've never heard anyone say anything else. 2019-06-17 15-33-33 PDT Moini (unless it's the deer or the neighbor's cats) 2019-03-12 09-02-49 PDT Moini I don't think it's going to last all day, and I don't think that everyone will want to participate. 2019-02-05 17-05-10 PST Moini There may be reasons to keep it secret, who knows.... 2018-10-11 18-41-37 PDT Moini I think I missed the stock market part... and got used to the politics too much already. 2019-02-05 09-55-31 PST Moini We 'press thumbs' here :) 2019-01-14 17-09-31 PST Moini https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/blob/master/utils/backup#L38 2019-11-17 18-44-59 PST Moini Sorry, it's super late, been having a 'contest party' (kind of) in the Vectors channel. 2018-11-11 13-53-20 PST Moini Meh. 2019-06-17 15-27-01 PDT Moini Or expensive :) 2018-10-11 18-50-14 PDT Moini 9 hours earlier, probably... sooo 7 pm? 2019-01-16 07-15-46 PST Moini 5. Don't rely on a single person to pick up all loose ends. Distribute distinct tasks before the release to different persons. 2019-01-16 10-20-51 PST Moini So, except for ppa and Chris' video, we're ready to go. 2019-04-02 13-24-17 PDT Moini I didn't really know what you were doing at Samsung... (oops) 2019-01-16 10-16-57 PST Moini (at least to my knowledge) 2018-12-08 12-32-48 PST Moini It was about shared files, maybe it was Ryan? Not sure. Because he has those large flyer, poster, merch files... 2019-09-05 04-08-40 PDT Moini I bet you have automatted the credential sharing as much as you can, and the documentation in the repository is good. 2019-11-17 18-45-27 PST Moini It will be a tough vote, there are some really good entries. 2019-01-14 15-24-05 PST Moini And is someone going to update the ppa? (for stable branch) 2019-12-03 12-18-26 PST Moini Yes, I wouldn't like that, either, if I had been in that situation. 2019-12-03 11-56-59 PST Moini I didn't know. 2019-01-15 15-01-23 PST Moini Leave it out. 2019-12-03 12-29-12 PST Moini Only getting to the post is then a bit hidden. Requires an extra click on the ... icon. 2019-06-17 15-25-41 PDT Moini Isn't clay supposed to be very fertile? 2019-06-17 15-25-01 PDT Moini If I have more than they can eat, I'll still get some of the leftovers :) 2018-10-11 18-45-39 PDT Moini But I think you can take the time you need - will you go visit her soon? 2019-03-12 09-02-12 PDT Moini I don't know any details, but I guess it's a bit of a city tour with taking photos, both as materials for workshops, for meeting others, and for learning about the town a bit. 2018-12-08 12-33-38 PST Moini (I'd just put them into gitlab, but well, that's me ;-)) 2019-01-15 14-56-54 PST Moini Is the corresponding public key uploaded in your profile? 2019-01-16 07-35-20 PST Moini I'll try to get hold of him again. 2019-01-03 08-52-28 PST Moini Or they are just too polite... 2019-12-03 11-45-08 PST Moini It's okay if Martin is mad at someone :) 2019-08-29 14-17-37 PDT Moini Thanks! Might still take a couple weeks - I'll try to get it done before Kielux, but definitely after, if that doesn't work out. 2019-06-17 09-10-40 PDT Moini Thank you for taking a look. I think Father's Day is a valid thing - your new job is probably not only taking a toll on how much time you can spend on Inkscape, but also on your 'real life'. I hope it was nice!
Didn't know that about the woodworking, btw. ;-) 2019-04-02 13-16-28 PDT Moini The VMWare thing, they just shared that it's over now. 2019-12-03 11-31-21 PST Moini That's good. 2019-12-03 12-34-22 PST Moini I have a dialog there that would allow me to. 2019-09-30 07-53-26 PDT Moini How are things going for you? How was the birthday party? :) 2018-11-17 13-33-47 PST Moini Hi (sorry, my fiancé was going to bed). I'm sorry, this must be difficult :-( There's both a lot to organize and do, and then of course, it's hard overall... I fully understand that you won't have a lot of time now. Is there anything you want me to help with? 2019-02-05 19-10-31 PST Moini Thomas seems to know a bit about what would need to be done, and someone called forrest wanted to take some time to find out more about the necessary steps.. 2019-01-15 14-21-37 PST Moini I just spelled this out for Michèle, wait. 2019-01-15 14-34-37 PST Moini Ah, okay, the modal dialog... That doesn't help. Sorry. What's in the page's breadcrumbs? 2019-01-27 17-07-24 PST Moini I was wondering what has become of that, too. 2019-02-05 19-24-47 PST Moini I'll try if I can get them to meet, although I'm probably the one with the least knowledge :) They need to figure out what they want to talk about themselves. Hopefully, Thomas can help with that, he might even lead the meeting. Well, that's what I'm hoping for :) 2019-02-05 09-54-15 PST Moini I used both, and got a reply from that one. 2020-01-01 12-57-36 PST Moini Hi Bryce - Happy New Year! I'm hoping this will be a good one for you and your family. :fireworks: 2020-04-11 11-37-43 PDT Moini Sorry :-/ I think I was mainly worried about that reaction. Didn't phrase that too well.
Thanks for the wishes! 2019-04-02 13-35-21 PDT Moini Hopefully at least efficient for the company... 2019-06-17 15-10-23 PDT Moini It's going to get loud soon ;-) Seems well invested, before the water can get in. 2019-10-01 08-11-37 PDT Moini Exercise is exactly what I'll do now, too, my garden needs me :sunflower: 2019-02-05 18-59-38 PST Moini They gave quite a few talks. 2020-03-07 09-15-18 PST Moini (I know you probably don't have any transcripts - I don't, either, but I suppose Marc has them all) 2019-11-17 18-42-46 PST Moini Spam doesn't seem to come through, currently. 2018-10-11 18-20-48 PDT Moini Hugs :-/ 2019-01-15 14-40-19 PST Moini Not on alpha. 2019-12-03 11-58-44 PST Moini He, now that I know, I'm sad, too. 2019-12-03 12-12-28 PST Moini It might not be possible to share, even if you wanted to. 2019-09-05 04-02-38 PDT Moini Hi :) I don't think they 'discovered' it - at least to me it was clear that they hadn't been deactivated yet. 2019-03-12 09-20-08 PDT Moini (in either case, tbh.) 2018-12-08 12-29-45 PST Moini I don't like spreadsheets at all :-P 2019-02-05 19-27-29 PST Moini Anyway, it's late and I'd better go to bed. Good night! 2018-12-23 16-11-31 PST Moini Ha, all the apps I have a love-hate relationship with... Sounds like you'd need to get up early for this one. Guess you fulfill the requirements (esp. the X part) more than perfectly. 2019-12-03 11-45-58 PST Moini Okay, that I can understand. 2019-06-17 15-06-11 PDT Moini That's a lot of info to digest all at once for you. 2019-06-17 15-42-37 PDT Moini One can rarely go wrong with a corkboard (really, it's useful, and self-made, and even recycling, so a nice thing to bring). 2019-03-12 09-10-01 PDT Moini Others may also know more about the city tour part, how it usually worked. 2019-01-15 14-22-59 PST Moini I know! 2019-03-12 09-14-35 PDT Moini I'd wait with the asking until I know if there's a space for us, of course. I think Aude wll reply very soon, so we know where we stand space-wise. 2019-01-08 11-02-46 PST Moini Created an entry for the 0.92.4 release on the website: https://inkscape.org/admin/releases/release/182/change/ 2019-12-03 11-56-53 PST Moini Wow. 2019-10-01 08-02-14 PDT Moini It's great that you were able to meet up with them, and even got a short tour along les Champs Élysées :D
Half a board meeting, almost, in what seems to be a very nice setting. 2019-12-03 11-46-33 PST Moini What I think is that at some point the two of you should meet and talk. 2019-01-15 14-52-28 PST Moini It does not make any sense to work in the releases interface just yet 2018-11-17 13-36-08 PST Moini Have you told Marc? 2019-01-15 14-59-34 PST Moini If it can be used, please exchange the signature file. If it can't, you could use a hash instead. 2019-12-14 16-46-59 PST Moini Hi Bryce - would you still like to vote on the About Screen for 1.0? I'm missing your vote... Also Josh's and Ted's ... 2019-01-16 07-38-11 PST Moini He just fixed it, right the minute I went to ask about it. 2019-01-16 07-18-23 PST Moini 7. Ask everyone to try it out at least once. 2019-02-22 11-03-05 PST Moini Thank you. 2020-03-21 15-22-55 PDT Moini What was the problem that caused it to fail? 2019-05-11 15-16-52 PDT Moini I would blame people for being upset with you :) It's not something you can influence, and I know you wanted to come. 2019-01-15 15-00-30 PST Moini Yes, that makes sense. 2019-04-02 13-37-38 PDT Moini Yes, multiple may be possible. Me neither :-( 2018-10-11 18-43-09 PDT Moini (was referring to the temporary part) 2020-11-16 13-31-10 PST Moini If anything, we're missing you... but you're not there, and rarely respond :/ 2020-01-02 05-29-42 PST Moini Ah, that's good. This partially restores my belief in post services :) Good that customs didn't open it and tried to evaluate the Kopano license - which is worthless for us, but worth a lot in theory. 2018-10-11 18-36-49 PDT Moini :rainbow: :rocket: 2018-10-11 18-53-47 PDT Moini You should be :) 2018-10-11 18-46-56 PDT Moini I hope it's not too far? 2018-12-08 12-29-07 PST Moini Didn't someone talk about setting up a nextcloud or something? 2019-12-03 12-26-25 PST Moini Also the other way around, for others. 2019-12-03 12-27-59 PST Moini Yeah, sorry. I'll try to be more verbose. 2019-01-14 17-12-51 PST Moini Complexity is much higher than you'd think. 2019-09-30 07-52-09 PDT Moini Yep, he said it's fixed a couple days ago, and we just tried it out for translators, and it works :) 2019-12-03 12-05-38 PST Moini I see you as one of the super-human sized founders, I don't think you can ever lose that. 2019-06-17 15-15-39 PDT Moini Yes, changing school and losing friends can be hard (I didn't like it much...). What is it that makes Astoria so interesting for you? (I don't know the place at all, sounds like a hotel to me, lol). 2018-12-08 12-36-53 PST Moini Didn't Jabier even put something like that up?... Or was he only talking about it...? 2019-01-09 16-18-34 PST Moini It's back, and I put one for 1.0 alpha in, too. https://inkscape.org/admin/releases/release/ 2019-12-03 11-41-30 PST Moini I'm not an expert there, unfortunately. 2020-04-04 14-52-47 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, we've set the release date for 1.0 to May 1st today (if nothing horrible crops up) - I hope you'll be able to be there? :fingers_crossed:
Not for doing any work, if you can't or don't want to... but just to be there. 2019-12-03 11-53-41 PST Moini Mmh - I didn't know we were basically sponsored by Samsung. 2020-04-29 18-32-45 PDT Moini So much going on... have a good evening! 2019-09-05 04-04-51 PDT Moini But yeah... maybe instead of feeling bad you could ask someone else to have a look? Just post a message to the chat. We can try to 'boost' it, to increase chances someone who can help reads it. 2019-01-14 16-56-43 PST Moini With all the translations etc. 2019-05-11 15-03-11 PDT Moini I think having a job is worth it :) 2019-05-11 15-21-28 PDT Moini And that even though you once said you didn't especially like being at Hackfests and travelling so far (if I understood that correctly then) - so coming would have been quite a gift to the project. Hearing you regret that you can't come is even sadder with that in mind. Not sure if you understand what I mean ... It's a bit convoluted :) 2019-01-15 15-14-34 PST Moini The missing category in the upload form was because you weren't an 'Uploader' group member. You are now. (and I am, too for that appimage) 2019-06-17 15-45-00 PDT Moini Ah :) Here there are places that collect them, for ... I have no clue, some kind of recycling. For example at the library they have an extra box to collect corks. 2019-08-10 11-03-21 PDT Moini Yep, he is. All is well :) 2019-04-02 13-14-38 PDT Moini I hope they'll find their accountant, looks like they want to improve on the processes. 2018-10-11 18-27-38 PDT Moini :) 2019-12-03 12-14-01 PST Moini Yes, so that's probably the reason. 2019-12-03 12-40-06 PST Moini Have a good week, and I hope you had a good long holiday weekend, too. 2019-01-15 14-40-51 PST Moini And it's not going to be available for the releases app. 2019-01-14 15-25-57 PST Moini I just need to know for putting it into releases app on the website. 2019-12-03 12-16-23 PST Moini That's a lot. 2019-09-05 04-13-53 PDT Moini (I know your rules for employment are much more in favor of the employer than the employee in the US... It's the other way around here, generations of people have fought for that.) 2019-11-23 08-11-57 PST Moini Please? 2019-04-02 14-02-18 PDT Moini I'm glad for you, I think it's good to have that kind of support. 2018-12-08 12-29-13 PST Moini That has calendars, too. 2019-01-15 14-35-05 PST Moini Okay, thanks. 2020-04-11 07-47-29 PDT Moini Hi :) Not sure if I'm maybe only annoying you, as the only reaction I got to that last post above was your removal of yourself from being the 'projects' assignee on launchpad.
Hope all is well with you and your family, Bryce. Have a good Easter weekend :rabbit: :tulip: 2019-04-02 13-55-29 PDT Moini Ah, that's the job you showed me the ad for? 2019-06-17 15-35-12 PDT Moini (dict.leo.org helped) 2019-06-17 15-07-18 PDT Moini What's 'siding'? 2019-02-05 17-04-45 PST Moini I think the year begins from the time of listing (that's part of the perks description). If they want it. 2019-06-17 15-02-34 PDT Moini Quite a setup! Probably makes working remotely like you do a lot easier. 2019-01-15 14-50-10 PST Moini Just follow the steps, then I know where you are and can guide you. 2019-05-11 15-02-24 PDT Moini :-( 2019-12-03 11-55-30 PST Moini Who is 'they'? SFC? 2018-11-17 13-38-37 PST Moini Yes, I saw you mention something a couple of days ago, and thought it had to do with this. 2019-04-12 15-02-33 PDT Moini @bryce Should we update the news articles? (i.e. https://inkscape.org/news/2018/12/06/vectorstock-now-inkscape-platinum-spon… , https://inkscape.org/news/2017/09/13/private-internet-access-sponsors-inksc… )
(referring to http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php?title=Fundraising_Ideas&curid=24866…) 2020-07-21 11-12-54 PDT Moini Hi Bryce, I've been reading about so much going on in Portland currently. I hope all is well with you and your family! 2018-12-23 16-08-11 PST Moini Do they have open jobs? (Wondering because of Ted) 2019-12-03 11-29-27 PST Moini It's because he has been asking for access to the mail server for a couple months already. 2019-12-03 11-44-11 PST Moini I do not think he would ever lock you out. 2019-05-11 15-29-26 PDT Moini (and this sounds like the job is going to last, too :- ) ) 2019-05-11 15-02-51 PDT Moini It's not your fault. 2019-01-05 10-21-13 PST Moini Yes, that would make sense. 2019-03-12 09-24-09 PDT Moini Only we could have a problem with space. Aude said we could have a 'small room' during LGM, but I don't know what 'small' means. I'll ask her. 2019-12-03 12-28-48 PST Moini I've found that the search works remarkably well. 2019-01-16 10-15-49 PST Moini flatpak: still to do 2019-04-02 13-56-09 PDT Moini (a couple weeks ago) 2019-12-03 11-47-33 PST Moini (I don't know if that's what he wants) 2019-06-17 15-52-26 PDT Moini :wave: 2018-11-17 13-54-48 PST Moini Let me know when that meeting will be, please. - Yes, I know, I hope we'll get some people to help. Michèle writes excellently, I think Canadian Thanksgiving is already over. 2018-11-17 13-37-06 PST Moini *gulp* 2019-01-15 14-26-02 PST Moini Choose Private, I will change it. 2019-12-03 11-32-24 PST Moini I hope not. 2019-01-15 19-38-40 PST Moini Good night, Bryce. I'm sorry, I think I wasn't very nice with you today.
It was all so frustrating for me today ... I might skip the next release.
Take care and good night! 2019-01-28 05-20-51 PST Moini I think of that task as one of the two main tasks of the Inkscape board. Finances and legal. That's what the board members volunteered for, right? So, we already have a group for that. https://inkscape.org/about/governance/board-duties/ 2019-04-02 13-19-58 PDT Moini What will be after this week that makes it 'back to square one'? 2019-12-03 12-15-13 PST Moini I like that we can fund hackfests. 2019-06-17 15-24-41 PDT Moini I haven't given up yet. 2019-02-05 18-58-22 PST Moini FOSDEM and copyleft conf are over now. They are probably on their way home, or they do a bit of touristing in Belgium. 2019-01-16 10-13-05 PST Moini snap is out already. 2019-12-03 11-48-13 PST Moini But it's not how it is, and not how it's going to be in the future I foresee. 2019-06-17 15-28-51 PDT Moini mmmmh :) 2019-01-15 14-36-31 PST Moini I don't think that's the issue. I'll look first change the category, I have the link to your tarball. Wait a moment! 2019-05-11 15-01-21 PDT Moini It's quite far away, I wouldn't have been surprised if you had said that you won't come from the start. 2018-10-11 18-33-40 PDT Moini Yes, moving with the family is difficult. Whoa, that's an impressive interview list :) 2019-01-14 17-03-49 PST Moini Download + instructions. 2019-12-03 12-19-46 PST Moini (and I wouldn't expect anyone who invests time to invest money in addition.)
Yes, you've done that well, from the beginning. 2020-04-29 18-30-09 PDT Moini (Michèle said she was hoping for a reply from you, and went to look right away ;-) ) 2019-12-03 12-10-40 PST Moini There's one other thing that I know is bothering him. 2019-12-03 11-41-07 PST Moini Mmmh. At least part of the mailing lists is. 2019-11-06 08-02-32 PST Moini Not sure how, but we need some better spam control for the user mailing list. 2019-01-14 17-12-16 PST Moini And that changes, from release to release, with availability of people, and technical progress.. 2019-01-16 10-22-45 PST Moini Friday evening, that is. 2019-01-16 07-27-57 PST Moini And no, it's not your fault. It is what it is. And we can try to improve it. The above is not meant as 'you did this wrong' but as 'this could help make it work better'. 2019-04-02 13-50-11 PDT Moini Something for the strategists and long-term planners :) 2020-03-08 09-35-06 PDT Moini Thank you Bryce. Are you doing okay? (sorry, I know you said you didn't want to have to spend time on explaining things - I'd just like to know if everything is alright... no longish explanations needed) 2019-06-17 15-21-46 PDT Moini Yes, I just looked it up on Wikipedia :) (I rather remember the No. 5 and Free Willy films, though) Looks nice, with the woods around and the small size. 2019-03-12 09-16-53 PDT Moini What I mean is, I will need that decision quickly, as some may already have asked for days off etc. 2019-12-03 11-37-14 PST Moini I know ... 2019-01-05 09-15-26 PST Moini @bryce Can those email aliases be used by multiple people? Or is it one per person? 2019-01-15 14-22-56 PST Moini It's not command line compatible.... 2019-01-15 14-59-49 PST Moini I'm not entirely sure how it works though. 2018-10-11 18-38-04 PDT Moini I hope things will relax for you a bit soon. 2019-01-14 16-56-37 PST Moini It's going to be a very long file. 2019-03-21 15-27-21 PDT Moini Oh, no doubt about that. It's not easy, and probably much harder still when you've got a family and kids to think about. I think you're doing it very well, though, looking closely at it from all angles, and preparing for the interviews even by jumping into the unknown depths of javascript user interfaces. 2019-06-17 15-25-47 PDT Moini Shadow is ugh, though. 2019-12-03 11-52-47 PST Moini What did he say? 2019-03-25 11-25-01 PDT Moini Thank you :) 2019-01-16 09-57-35 PST Moini Ah, probably I can find it myself then. 2020-03-20 06-36-21 PDT Moini (https://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/2020-03-06.log) 2019-05-11 15-05-06 PDT Moini I'll be back in a minute, sorry. 2019-02-05 09-57-08 PST Moini Hope that was okay, also tagged Marc. 2018-10-11 18-51-24 PDT Moini And wife? 2019-01-15 14-22-22 PST Moini Then, click on the picture icon in the top right corner. 2019-01-14 17-22-00 PST Moini But then... you mean to strip the releases app of most of its parts? Or do you mean to do part per yaml, part manually? 2020-03-21 15-34-21 PDT Moini Thanks! 2019-01-14 17-01-36 PST Moini And knowing how unreliably website cron jobs work... 2019-12-03 11-46-51 PST Moini For me to mediate, you're both a bit too 'big'. 2019-12-03 11-51-24 PST Moini The thing is that I like both of you quite well. I'd love to see if if you get on. Both of you confided in me, at times. What I know is that you're both quite human, and really wanting well for the project. 2019-01-03 08-47-44 PST Moini Just saw your board email for Pasadena - couldn't suppress a grin when I saw people voted for option a - "Reimburse specific attendees listed below for up to $2000 each, to cover airfare, lodging, and meals." - when there were no attendees listed below... Either they didn't read, or they didn't bother asking. 2020-11-11 13-18-52 PST Moini What makes you think that's the case? Has anything happened? 2019-01-15 14-23-15 PST Moini :-) 2019-12-03 11-40-50 PST Moini Yeah, it's always going to be imperfect. 2019-01-05 12-39-39 PST Moini (I think...) 2019-06-17 15-09-21 PDT Moini lol - seems to be nice from the inside, though (on the little I saw, you took care to make it look nice) 2018-10-11 18-35-43 PDT Moini Yes, the CC thing sounds like it would be fulfilling. 2019-01-16 09-58-58 PST Moini Thank you!!! 2019-06-17 15-08-45 PDT Moini Ah. 2019-11-23 08-16-08 PST Moini Thank you! 2019-12-02 13-13-39 PST Moini Thanks! 2018-10-11 18-52-45 PDT Moini Cool kids. 2019-01-14 16-33-48 PST Moini Seems there isn't yet an AppImage for 0.92.4, so a flatpak could be good... 2019-06-17 15-26-48 PDT Moini Lots of work. 2019-01-16 09-56-50 PST Moini Hehe, it's seven p.m. here. Evening! Where is it? 2019-12-03 12-02-07 PST Moini Yeah, I know ... 2019-10-18 18-10-36 PDT Moini So it did look a bit like we were left alone. 2019-12-03 11-31-53 PST Moini I don't think anyone knew that, and we haven't seen him for much longer than we haven't seen you ;-) 2019-01-14 15-24-52 PST Moini Will there be a separate ppa for alpha? I asked Mc, and he didn't seem to have an issue with just using the 'master' ppa. 2019-01-16 10-03-05 PST Moini So, news are working. 2019-12-03 12-14-19 PST Moini I mean the reason why it's not shared. 2018-12-03 09-58-36 PST Moini @bryce the feature isn't new, only the preferences setting has changed. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/blame/master/src/preferences-skeleton.…
How are you doing? 2019-12-03 12-23-53 PST Moini I personally suck at it. 2019-04-02 13-22-01 PDT Moini Ah, okay, I understand. 2019-01-15 14-49-46 PST Moini Sorry I'm being really blunt, but it's late and I've had half-answers from lots of people all day long. 2018-10-11 18-51-17 PDT Moini You're going to have dinner with your kids? 2019-12-03 11-35-38 PST Moini 3 lists is enough. 2019-04-02 14-01-14 PDT Moini They know what the others are good at doing. 2019-01-16 10-22-24 PST Moini I'm only not available on Friday. 2019-01-14 17-07-17 PST Moini You could do a db dump of the releases app, for fun, to see what's in it. That would need to be put in the yaml file. 2019-01-14 16-56-26 PST Moini Oh... 2019-11-18 06-31-50 PST Moini Can you please remove my mod status for devel? I can't do it myself. 2019-02-05 18-57-33 PST Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=pKFdaxErddZmQeCKT) I had thought that was what you meant, lol :) () 2019-09-06 14-05-54 PDT Moini That does sound tough and exhausting, indeed.
Yes, sometimes it's a question of getting used to things, and sometimes, the demands change and become less.
Hope you'll have a good day tomorrow, with the birthday :) 2019-01-15 15-02-03 PST Moini What would you like to do? It's a choice between black death and cholera (as we say in German) 2019-11-17 18-42-07 PST Moini Thanks :) 2019-12-03 12-00-56 PST Moini That does not mean that you haven't done good work in setting them up and making us independent of questionable third-party. 2019-02-05 09-56-56 PST Moini Tagged you on github, for a question about the newline crash on Fedora/with the flatpak. 2019-01-15 15-16-16 PST Moini Bildschirmfoto_2019-01-16_00-15-59.png (https://chat.inkscape.org/file-upload/rpDukgd2wmv5Bc5on/Bildschirmfoto_2019…) 2019-01-16 10-14-57 PST Moini Windows store: unknown, Mc will take care of it (or maybe already did) 2020-07-26 08-15-14 PDT Moini Ah, so it's almost a 'planned riot', in the nights... that part is not so smart ...
Ha, I thought you'd probably be involved with the peaceful protest, hence I was worried a bit and asked in the first place. Food and hygiene are always good :) And not distinguishing between whom to help sounds good, too.
People were pretty fast and creative in making use of those blocking walls in a better way :) 2019-01-15 14-40-28 PST Moini Else it is not going to be cached by fastly. 2019-01-15 14-27-36 PST Moini Website news aren't working properly, we cannot read the articles... 2019-10-18 18-02-45 PDT Moini If that hadn't been available, though, we'd have had a problem. 2019-02-05 19-13-20 PST Moini I had been planning to do some friendly reminding and maybe to kick off a meeting last week ... But then had to work on something else. 2018-11-11 13-53-19 PST Moini Ah, wrong channel here. I wanted to ask in general.... 2019-08-29 05-36-27 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Now that you've got the award thing, I remembered that I still have the framed certificate we got at the Univention summit (and that silly Kopano license, too). I'd like to mail those to you. Can you please give me your address (it's probably the one I saw somewhere in the source code or on the contract with SFC, but who knows), if you'd like to have them? 2020-09-05 16-01-24 PDT Moini Hi Bryce! Wow, I've just been reading that Portland still is tumultous... and then a week ago or so, that news about environmentalists being worried about the tear gas in the water - man, that sounds weird to my ears. As you haven't replied about the infra/chat server issue for some time, but only said something about not being available last week, and as I haven't seen you online anywhere, also not at the board meeting, is everything okay? 2018-10-11 18-57-50 PDT Moini Thank you! I'd like to wish that to you, too, but I think it might be difficult - still, sleep as well as possible, under the circumstances! 2019-12-03 11-32-20 PST Moini I don't know if there are any ulterior motives. 2019-04-27 17-28-08 PDT Moini Nice :) I'm wishing you a good start next week! 2019-01-15 14-39-39 PST Moini Yes, I know, repeatedly. 2019-04-02 14-00-11 PDT Moini It's good that the co-workers are still there, I imagine they're all in the same boat. 2019-01-16 10-03-14 PST Moini Your signature does not. 2019-01-15 15-15-31 PST Moini I don't know. 2019-02-22 10-59-26 PST Moini Sorry about that, Bryce, but Mac or not - if someone isn't willing to cooperate, then I'm not going to invest any more time into them. 2019-12-03 11-39-37 PST Moini I'd be opposed to those two. 2019-01-14 15-23-09 PST Moini @bryce Did you also contact Mathias Vogelsang (or Vogelgesang) about the flatpak? 2019-05-11 15-29-36 PDT Moini So it's going okay at Canonical? 2019-01-15 14-58-14 PST Moini Have you changed it out of necessity? Or can the old one still be used? 2019-05-11 15-44-12 PDT Moini I hope it's going to go well. And of course, I hope that after finding your way back in, and into the new stuff, you'll not be spending your evenings in an exhausted, overworked state, but will have some time for Inkscape. You're new on that job, it's going to take some time until you reach that point, I expect. 2019-01-14 16-57-48 PST Moini So the releases app would go away? 2019-01-05 12-39-05 PST Moini One other thing to check out for a release: does the up-to-date documentation get pulled in automagically? I think it needs to be retrieved manually, but I'm not sure - it's something Patrick has done, too. 2019-12-03 12-08-11 PST Moini People trust you and will always take your judgement into account. They know you're considerate and careful and very good at mediating conflict. 2020-04-29 18-27-22 PDT Moini Thank you, Bryce - I'll let Michèle know that there's something new. It looks like the concept is now to have spin-off interviews, though, so she might at some point get back to you with some more questions to fill the rest of the article. 2019-08-10 09-35-25 PDT Moini Bryce, do you know if Marc is on holidays? (I suppose he is) 2019-01-15 14-40-15 PST Moini It needs to be ON the website. 2019-12-03 11-59-44 PST Moini But the spam is indeed a bit annoying. 2019-10-18 18-05-16 PDT Moini But there weren't many board members present. 2019-10-18 06-41-59 PDT Moini Your package will still take a while. Our post service has a dreadful form checker for the customs declaration on their website... It seems it cannot sum up 0.1 + 0.1 +0.4 ... had to contact customer service. 2018-12-08 12-37-15 PST Moini Mihaela and Jabier will know that. 2019-09-05 04-12-55 PDT Moini It looks to me as if they're 'decorating themselves' with the cool names, and then take the things from them that define those people. Don't you have working time directives in the US? 2018-10-11 18-46-08 PDT Moini Good. 2019-02-05 19-07-36 PST Moini As far as I know, we don't have any concrete plans, except for... finding someone who can work on it. We have that mac-dev group here, where all of the possible people are gathered, but they seem to need someone to start organizing them (or maybe they all aren't as interested as they seemed at first). 2020-03-11 10-27-30 PDT Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=3Dp8s7bT6scFoBu2q) Thank you, Bryce! Going to ask Marc for the March one. () 2020-04-29 18-32-25 PDT Moini Ah, seems it will become part of an introductory article to the series ;-) 2019-01-14 17-00-28 PST Moini I don't really get what you're imagining, probably. 2019-06-17 15-34-31 PDT Moini Very useful, seems everyone in the family got their own ... uhm... compartment. 2019-11-17 18-45-47 PST Moini Need to go now - and thanks again :) 2019-01-16 07-14-43 PST Moini Here are some ideas to make it smoother:
1. Give it a 1 or two more days between publishing the source and the announcement, then maybe others have time to eat and sleep.
2. Take care that everyone involved is available when they'll be needed (i.e. include Martin!)
3. A couple of days before the release, do a test run on the website. We discovered lots of unknown issues.
4. Make lists, and stick to them. 2019-12-03 12-38-35 PST Moini Glad it worked (not a hidden agenda here :) ). 2019-01-15 14-57-57 PST Moini Mmh. Updating will probably break it for any previous uploads. 2019-01-14 16-55-47 PST Moini Probably I will upload it in the end... 2019-12-03 11-42-39 PST Moini That's annoying... 2019-02-05 19-20-05 PST Moini I am thinking that the task is too large for any single dev, but for some reason, they don't start coordinating on their own. Maybe they don't know that there are multiple people interested in helping, or what their abilities are for it. 2019-03-12 09-09-08 PDT Moini Possible - where should I ask to find that out? 2019-06-17 15-46-39 PDT Moini Ah, yes. 2020-11-07 06-12-30 PST Moini Ryan messaged Tim, asking him to head the meeting today, and Tim shared the info on the Vectors channel. I don't know more than this:
"Hi everyone, Ryan won't be with us for a while.
There has been a death in the family.
Ryan, his wife and their children need time to grieve.
I know you will all join me in passing on our deepest condolences to Ryan and his family.
Ryan has asked me to host the coming Vectors meeting. I know you will all join me in filling in for Ryan where we can. " 2019-05-11 15-01-51 PDT Moini I was surprised when you added your name to the 'maybe list' 2019-01-15 14-54-36 PST Moini Thank you. 2019-10-18 17-56-25 PDT Moini I suggested he should send a message to the board mailing list, to get input, but he seems to be waiting for a reply from you instead. 2018-11-17 13-55-19 PST Moini Take care! 2018-12-23 16-28-37 PST Moini To you, too :) 2019-01-14 16-54-20 PST Moini Okay, so this is what I have collected so far: 2018-10-11 18-19-18 PDT Moini Oh no!!!!! :-/ 2019-01-16 10-03-37 PST Moini Don't know the status of the deb package. 2019-01-14 16-55-06 PST Moini Patrick will take care of Win builds, and also add them to the releases app (yay! One thing less on the list :) ) 2019-01-07 16-13-53 PST Moini Btw. who will read the emails from contact(a)inkscape.org? I think there was nobody who volunteered for the sponsor management, but I may remember that incorrectly. 2018-12-03 14-12-37 PST Moini Your mom is lucky to have you and your family to take care of her. 2019-01-16 10-07-48 PST Moini Some change in django that required setting permissions manually (or, in other words, Martin read up the documentation). 2019-11-17 18-39-17 PST Moini Yeah? 2019-06-17 15-52-16 PDT Moini Hi Zoë! 2019-06-17 15-49-43 PDT Moini I have some of mine online: https://vektorrascheln.de/pages/crafting.html
There's nothing like a bookshelf in your favorite color that you helped painting yourself :) I bet she'll like it a lot, and also that her father made it for her. 2018-10-11 18-21-17 PDT Moini Yes, that's true. 2019-12-03 12-17-11 PST Moini Lol, not good. 2018-12-23 16-18-34 PST Moini So you left kind of pre-emptively, looking mostly for security, if I get that right. 2019-01-15 14-47-55 PST Moini Same as before? 2019-04-02 13-24-32 PDT Moini Except that it had to do with graphics. 2019-04-02 12-34-05 PDT Moini The fun thing is, they always reply to the pre-previous email... Their system seems to be really borked. 2019-02-05 19-16-32 PST Moini Martin is doing the welcoming in that group. He seems to know quite a bit, too. 2019-04-27 13-53-08 PDT Moini This is so cool to read! I'm happy for you, Bryce, so glad the search is over, and this does sound much better than the cloud stuff :)
May 1st :) We have a saying here that goes 'Alles neu macht der Mai' - 'May renews everything', good omen for a start :)
Will you always be working from home? 2019-05-01 16-51-05 PDT Moini How was your 'first day'? 2019-03-12 09-22-50 PDT Moini We still can, I guess. 2019-01-14 15-23-27 PST Moini (having an AppImage, that won't be a drama, just asking) 2020-03-21 15-34-52 PDT Moini I'll relay the info to Mc, so he knows why it didn't work. 2019-04-02 13-18-07 PDT Moini Ouch. 2019-01-14 16-55-36 PST Moini An AppImage will be done for the alpha, but I'm still trying to figure out how to get that on the page. 2019-01-14 17-51-35 PST Moini Good night, Bryce! And thank you, too :-) The project got a lot done this last year. Many big and small improvments. And now the tracker, soon the lists.... It's getting rejuvenated. ::seedling: 2019-01-15 14-52-09 PST Moini Then I will verify it's uploaded and can put it into the correct category. 2019-12-03 11-38-17 PST Moini I know. 2019-01-15 14-52-41 PST Moini Step 1 before step 100. 2018-10-11 18-31-36 PDT Moini I hope that whereever you'll end up, they won't cage you in like google does with KK ;-) So, you're already a bit prepared, that's good. 2018-12-23 16-15-52 PST Moini :) 2019-12-03 12-09-37 PST Moini Yes, that'll help. It's not as if writing such a thing can't be done by the person who wants it. 2018-10-11 18-28-51 PDT Moini Do you know what he's doing now? 2019-02-05 19-05-20 PST Moini Yes, it's a lot. 2019-06-17 16-02-09 PDT Moini Quite athletic you are, Zoë! (I always need to copy that e, lol) 2019-01-15 14-39-24 PST Moini Bryce, you didn't upload it... 2019-04-02 13-33-54 PDT Moini I'm only thinking it, because I'd have no idea where to start. 2019-01-16 10-02-54 PST Moini Ah, sorry. Typed faster than I could read. 2020-04-29 18-29-41 PDT Moini Btw., from the contributor interview replies, it looks as if your founding principle worked, there are lots of people saying that that's what they like about the project and what motivates them to contribute. 2019-11-17 18-47-36 PST Moini Better to spread it a bit. 2019-02-05 09-55-46 PST Moini Or squeeze, rather. 2018-11-17 13-44-08 PST Moini (if you have the time, just so I know: what will this involve doing?) 2019-02-05 16-54-32 PST Moini Sorry, I don't even know what glowforge is... 2019-12-03 11-37-42 PST Moini I see the difference between user and the other two lists. On user I have more permissions. 2019-05-11 15-00-01 PDT Moini Why would I be upset with you? 2019-01-14 16-57-21 PST Moini And all the hints, and different links, from different sources. 2018-10-11 18-50-53 PDT Moini But it's okay. 2019-10-18 18-09-53 PDT Moini Not sure, but maybe get a discussion going on the board list? So people know you're there and are alive?
Not even SFC replied to the 'we need a new website cert' email. 2018-10-11 18-49-22 PDT Moini What time is it now? 2019-09-30 07-55-40 PDT Moini I've got my online banking set up now (the cheap international stamps for small packages are only available online...) so I'll be able to send your package soon. Anything else (small, thin) I should put in? Some stickers, maybe? 2019-12-03 11-42-10 PST Moini But he does manage our servers well enough, so I'd think he'd be able to fix it, and if he offers to, let him! We need all the help we can get. 2019-10-18 18-01-10 PDT Moini Good :) 2019-01-14 13-46-48 PST Moini Or it could even be doctormo(a)gmail.com... Yes, the sponsor requests used Martin's private email address. Last one is from mid November, so it's unlikely there has been a change. So that explains why it wasn't possible to share (without email aliases and a mailing list). 2019-12-03 12-23-37 PST Moini It's impossible to mind-read. The only way to know is to ask, and to trust that the reply is honest. Which is not an easy thing to do. 2019-12-03 11-35-50 PST Moini There are more people who can help, and we shuld let them. 2019-06-17 15-39-48 PDT Moini You mean, someone who drinks all the wine ;-) ? 2018-10-11 18-43-30 PDT Moini I hope so, too. 2019-04-02 13-27-29 PDT Moini But the project still exists? (I mean, as far as I have read, Firefox is using cairo for rendering?) 2019-01-14 16-58-08 PST Moini But the data then still needs to be filled in. 2020-07-24 17-28-14 PDT Moini Good that you're okay! Yes, our media were mostly focusing on federal police apparently escalating the situation, instead of the opposite. Arresting people from unmarked cars, which made it sound like something that would rather fit into South America in times of Pinochet... They also had pictures and stories about the moms, and lately about tear gas. Stay safe!
(just clicked the website, and it said something about a heat warning... not a good combo. I'd offer to take on some of the warmth if that were possible, it's super cold here for July.) 2019-12-03 12-27-12 PST Moini But I'm also guilty of doing that myself... 2019-05-11 15-34-23 PDT Moini And the memory comes back of all the little things, too. 2020-09-14 15-02-38 PDT Moini That's good, what a relief that it's under control now.
I've seen some photos, it really looks spooky with the glowing sky and hills. Yes, there has been a lot going on in your town and country lately :/ Wish I could send you some fresh air (with a tinge of cow and horse, lol) - but I guess you'll need to wait for the rain to wash yours clean. 2019-01-16 10-05-03 PST Moini The spreadshirt and SCALE fundraiser news are out. 2019-12-03 12-12-41 PST Moini :) 2019-01-15 15-00-04 PST Moini I think it's the file name extension that defines what is used for evaluation. 2019-01-14 17-06-07 PST Moini Not that it doesn't sound useful, but I think the complexity and amount of stuff that is there and needs to be coordinated is too high for that. 2019-01-14 17-03-36 PST Moini Which has both. 2019-04-02 13-52-10 PDT Moini That sounds good! 2019-04-02 13-13-49 PDT Moini Have you met at SCaLE? 2018-12-23 16-20-37 PST Moini heh, no, you can't be responsible for each and every one :) 2019-01-16 08-43-08 PST Moini @bryce Do you still have that script that turns release notes into plain text? We could use it for http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92.4 . 2019-10-18 18-04-44 PDT Moini Nothing specific, I think, just a general worry about leadership tasks being delayed currently. During the board meeting, he called that 'canonicalized', but didn't get much feedback. 2019-04-02 13-30-03 PDT Moini Ah, thanks for explaining. 2019-12-03 11-39-09 PST Moini Yes. 2019-05-11 15-13-50 PDT Moini (sorry, I keep wondering why you'd think I'm upset with you... I know I was quite direct at the meeting today, but that was because I wanted to get things done, not postpone them again - and it worked. Maybe not the optimal solution, but at least a solution. That, as well as the question about if it was intentional that the manual didn't end up on the projects list, didn't have anything to do with you. It was really just a question, could have been there was a deeper reason, beyond 'needs some actual content'.) 2019-01-14 17-11-50 PST Moini And I really don't want to write that manually - we have so much that depends on other table contents. 2019-01-16 10-09-13 PST Moini I posted below. Martin knows there's something not right with it, but I don't know where the reason could be - me uploading, your keys not being correct (maybe), or the website being broken. 2018-12-03 14-18-09 PST Moini I'm good. Slow, sleeping too long, trying to cross of items on my list each day, as good as I can :) 2019-01-16 09-25-01 PST Moini @bryce What are your plans for publishing the release / announcements / etc.? 2019-12-03 11-59-24 PST Moini It's an exaggeration. 2019-12-03 11-37-00 PST Moini People have been nagging since the lists have been opened officially. 2019-09-05 04-08-52 PDT Moini You've taken care of that in advance. 2019-05-11 15-28-14 PDT Moini Cool! Well done! 2019-06-17 15-40-56 PDT Moini I guess it's more a holder for the corks. 2018-12-08 12-38-04 PST Moini No idea :) I didn't have a mobile phone then, and didn't use any outside services. 2019-12-03 12-33-55 PST Moini Yes, I think it does. Need to check... 2019-12-03 11-47-24 PST Moini Well, we can't all have what we want, can we?... 2019-06-17 15-51-53 PDT Moini My next project is the bathroom cabinet, which is going to look like one of these: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Hummerbuden_suedlich_Hafenstrasse10… 2019-09-05 04-11-02 PDT Moini I wish I could kick Canonical really hard for what they seem to be asking from you... 2019-01-14 17-01-51 PST Moini And how often we need to update the data after a release... 2019-04-02 13-15-52 PDT Moini Seems their lawsuit in Hamburg is coming to a conclusion, so they might have more time now. Lol, at least the names sound efficient :robot: 2019-04-02 12-33-24 PDT Moini I'm not happy with SFC... 14, 64€ for 279 miles, at a rate of 0.14 $ /mile? Unless they use a different rate, that's not what my calculator says. 2019-04-02 13-12-40 PDT Moini Not your fault... 2020-09-09 15-26-09 PDT Moini Oh,... Please take care, Bryce, and when you need to evacuate and you get a chance to do so, let us know that you and your family are safe. We don't need more than a sentence or two.
Hope those fires will be under control soon. 2019-10-18 18-06-53 PDT Moini Or before ... but that time between was great for Inkscape. 2019-06-17 15-39-31 PDT Moini A production system? 2018-10-11 18-54-13 PDT Moini I didn't like sports, either. 2018-10-11 18-56-57 PDT Moini But... I need to go to bed now, @bryce. I hope your family will return soon. 2018-10-11 18-23-13 PDT Moini No, I only read about the Inkspace thing in the one public email about it. 2019-01-15 15-01-28 PST Moini Use a hash instead. 2019-01-15 14-47-48 PST Moini Link, please. 2020-11-09 05-54-27 PST Moini Bryce, btw., what was that with fearing that we're going to run a bus over you during the board meeting? Has anything happened? 2019-01-15 14-51-18 PST Moini I feel like I'm being tested on user support here... This is one of the ways to get there, yes. 2019-12-03 12-16-59 PST Moini Oooh. That's a bit uncomfortable, I guess. 2019-12-03 11-40-18 PST Moini It's django. I think Martin can help there. 2018-11-17 13-39-31 PST Moini Yes, he can rely on me for this. 2019-04-12 16-23-42 PDT Moini Thanks! I assumed you'd say that, but wanted to be sure. 2019-04-02 13-29-26 PDT Moini It's easy to forget that with the 'limited interest' of the companies :-/ 2019-06-17 15-46-34 PDT Moini That's huge (I think) 2019-10-18 18-12-38 PDT Moini I'm not really clear what he wants exactly, but maybe it's better to find that out. 2019-02-05 17-02-51 PST Moini Okay, so they count as expiring for you :) 2019-01-15 14-55-54 PST Moini Category and thumbnail are fixed. Signature is broken. 2018-12-23 15-58-38 PST Moini Ah :-( Seems to have been something you were really interested in, if you took on a longer ride just to get there. I hope there will be something better in store for you next year. As it's already Christmas here (the 24th is the 'main Christmas day' in Germany), I'm already wishing you a good Christmas with your kids and wife. Probably not so easy, but I hope you can get a break from all the recent stress a bit with it. 2019-08-10 11-04-55 PDT Moini Have a good weekend! 2019-01-27 15-42-07 PST Moini I hope they won't go public with this. 2019-03-12 09-29-00 PDT Moini Need to go, see you later - thank you! 2019-02-05 16-59-17 PST Moini Sounds good :) I'd suspect stuff that has to do with extensions, and with units... I think I haven't seen a reply from you about the question I had about adding that other company to the website (the one that is on the Wiki page as a gold sponsor, but doesn't have a hundred percent certain link). Have you tried contacting them? 2018-10-11 18-34-01 PDT Moini But yeah, you're highly qualified. 2019-12-03 11-32-31 PST Moini Naaaaah. 2019-12-03 11-36-19 PST Moini Thank you. 2019-01-15 14-51-25 PST Moini Please give me a link to the upload. 2019-12-03 11-30-59 PST Moini It's not your fault, but you are currently one. 2019-03-12 09-27-54 PDT Moini Asked, let's wait for her responses... For when did you want to schedule that dev meeting? 2019-01-15 14-39-46 PST Moini But I can't help fix that now. 2019-03-12 07-58-02 PDT Moini The problem is this:
1. We knew LGM is from May 29th to June 2nd 2019.
2. So we decided to hold the hackfest on May 27th and May 28th, two days.
3. Now the LGM schedule is out, and basically, there is nothing happening on May 29th, except for a photo tour, and the opening starting at 6 p.m.
4. We have asked for a space for meeting up on the set hackfest days only.
So:
- should we postpone the hackfest by one day, if there is space available on the 29th?
- or should we extend the hackfest by one day, if there is space available?
I already asked Aude about the 29th - if they can offer a space for that date, too.
2018-10-11 18-25-11 PDT Moini That's a huge achievement, @bryce 2019-02-05 19-30-06 PST Moini Good, seems you're quite successful attracting them :)
I spent my night on finding a new fridge, as ours was causing short-circuits... now we'll have our food outside on the terrace for the next couple of weeks, it's going to be an adventure for us - good it's winter. 2019-04-05 03-55-01 PDT Moini :-( I'm sorry, Bryce. It sounded so good. I wish it had worked out. How are you? 2019-09-05 04-07-26 PDT Moini You have 'staff' for that ;-) 2019-06-17 16-02-27 PDT Moini Guten Appetit! 2018-12-23 16-02-41 PST Moini Not a good fit, then - I think (but don't know for sure, actually) you're more of a low level 2D graphics guy. 2019-10-27 09-57-32 PDT Moini Bryce, does anyone but you have enough privileges on alpha.inkscape.org to put in letsencrypt? https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=6FQ8Kdu7ScgMgbKch () 2019-01-15 10-41-12 PST Moini So it can be served by fastly? 2018-11-11 13-52-48 PST Moini One more question: you wanted the gitlab repo to be linked, right? (because it said 'Mirror of github....' in the description) 2018-11-17 13-37-40 PST Moini Okay. 2019-06-17 15-29-26 PDT Moini (chuckling here) 2019-05-11 15-33-41 PDT Moini That sounds like it's going well, with the expected learning curve. It's good when one already knows some of the people one works with. 2019-01-16 07-35-10 PST Moini So, next most important task: Get Martin to fix the news. Else people won't be able to read the news article. 2019-04-02 14-00-51 PDT Moini So you can still give each other tips. 2019-01-16 07-22-34 PST Moini 9. Make sure that all things that people point out are unclear are cleared up before you start. Or at least most of them. 2019-04-02 13-32-08 PDT Moini I wish you could! 2019-05-11 15-08-42 PDT Moini back. 2019-10-01 04-31-51 PDT Moini Seems everyone caught one, Michèle also just wrote that she's got a cold. Travelling, esp. with that time shift, can be quite exhausting (I had totally forgotten that you've been in France... did you see any of the French Inkscapers?). 2019-11-17 18-40-06 PST Moini Oh. Check out the About screen stuff, that makes you go 'YEAH!' too. 2019-06-17 14-24-11 PDT Moini You made a really beautiful desk - it all fits together perfectly, even with the little old-fashioned lamp. Is it still in use? 2019-01-27 15-41-21 PST Moini Bryce, I think that request and judgement from the lawyer was wrong, and due to her not having the technical knowledge that would have been necessary and not investigating before pressing on. All they seem to do (when one reads their descriptions on their website, it becomes clear) is provide a VNC client (or something very similar) packed into an app, and some docker or whatever instances on their servers, running Inkscape on demand. Yes, of course they were profiting from us. Yes, they made it look (or at least they didn't express it's not so) as if Inkscape were their software, but they said it was GPL, they gave a link, they said it was free... This was wrong. 2019-12-03 11-39-53 PST Moini Definitely to the second one. 2019-04-12 16-25-00 PDT Moini Useful research, thanks for doing that! 2019-01-15 14-56-36 PST Moini I'm not sure why. 2019-06-17 15-23-28 PDT Moini Aha :) With the deer in the garden, eating the roses and the violets and the bird food, one can also find that a bit annoying, lol 2018-12-23 16-22-49 PST Moini The snap packaging part would be okay for you? - Ah, now I understand why you are still wondering if it would be the right thing to choose. 2019-01-15 14-46-26 PST Moini Upload the tarball first. Is it uploaded? 2018-10-11 18-19-29 PDT Moini Rough week indeed. 2019-12-03 12-11-25 PST Moini Which is that for all financial info, we depend on you providing it, as far as I understand. 2019-05-11 16-02-07 PDT Moini Yep :) Have a good time with your daughter! 2018-10-11 18-50-37 PDT Moini Oh my... yes. 2019-12-03 11-34-46 PST Moini Now they can, Mc will be able to spread responsibility a bit. 2019-12-03 11-55-53 PST Moini Oh, both even. 2020-11-18 05-00-35 PST Moini Thanks for the offer! Personally, I'm not currently blocked on anything specific (only slow to reply myself). I know that if I raised some kind of alarm here with you, I'd probably get your attention, which... feels kind of unfair. 2019-06-17 08-24-07 PDT Moini Bryce, hi :) I know you've got a lot to do, but this article is stalled on your approval, and Michèle decided to publish it before she starts to write any other ones: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/content/issues/22#note_179328422 2018-10-11 18-42-19 PDT Moini Yes, you're right with that. 2019-02-05 09-53-40 PST Moini It's what I used normally. 2018-11-17 13-35-36 PST Moini I try to. 2019-02-05 09-51-39 PST Moini You used Tobias Ellinghaus or Tobias Ellinghaus? 2018-10-11 18-49-00 PDT Moini That's good, too. No long travels. 2018-10-11 18-52-36 PDT Moini :) 2019-02-05 09-54-49 PST Moini Hope it works! 2018-10-11 18-40-16 PDT Moini You're talking of weather and earthquakes? ( I think there was something about a very strong hurricane...) 2019-01-14 14-07-34 PST Moini Your patience seems to pay out :) It was a long process with the mailman.
Np. I'm not sure if I did more than usually, actually. But I skipped user support on the forums a lot.
Have you already had interesting replies to your job applications? 2018-12-08 12-33-20 PST Moini And we still don't have a place where they are uploaded. 2019-03-16 17-56-05 PDT Moini https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_devel?msg=XXzfqfpjXXSzgvQnm () 2019-04-02 13-25-44 PDT Moini Is there anyone doing that now? 2019-01-14 17-01-23 PST Moini it would just add another layer of complexity... 2019-01-16 07-19-47 PST Moini 8. Be specific with times. As in 'I will wait until 8 a.m. Pacific time on January 14th, make sure that everything is committed until then'. 2019-03-12 09-18-59 PDT Moini If I come, I won't stay as long. 2019-01-15 15-08-13 PST Moini That was wrong. It always depends on the user's public key. 2019-11-17 18-49-47 PST Moini Good night, Bryce! 2018-12-23 16-12-09 PST Moini Is the reason you left there still relevant today? 2019-04-02 13-19-14 PDT Moini :-( I'm hoping for you, then, too. 2019-06-17 15-24-08 PDT Moini Sounds a lot like my village, with the Kiel Canal, we have the large container ships and cruise ships here, too. You can hear them for more than 2km. 2018-12-23 16-26-58 PST Moini I think as an experienced dev whom they already know, and with an excellent reputation (as far as I know ;-)), you would have some leverage, for the work hours. But it's easy to slide into doing too much. 2019-01-14 03-26-57 PST Moini It's admin@ I think. I'm not on my computer with access to my emails, though, so can't verify. Must be in the quoted emails. No, others don't have access, but also nobody asked to have. 2019-02-05 17-00-34 PST Moini Ah, not gold. Bronze. 2019-03-12 09-15-54 PDT Moini He's also hard to get hold of... but we'll see. I hope nobody made any travel arrangements yet. 2019-04-02 13-51-16 PDT Moini and for those thinking about the future users. 2018-10-11 18-28-37 PDT Moini Yes. I think the same thing happened to Ted not too long ago, right? 2020-09-08 05-00-28 PDT Moini Thanks for taking the time to reply, Bryce. Hope you'll get some space to breathe soon! 2018-10-11 18-19-49 PDT Moini I'm sorry. 2019-01-15 14-31-31 PST Moini Private? 2019-01-13 11-20-15 PST Moini We didn't have any private contact address, so I think Martin just did what seemed sensible to him. He was probably thinking in terms of helping the project, by doing work for it. Especially as nobody volunteered to do it... and piling up more work on you, or waiting that 'someone' does it, isn't exactly helpful, either. He forwarded the emails to the list anyway, I believe. 2019-12-03 12-14-24 PST Moini I don't know. 2019-07-12 10-44-23 PDT Moini I know, Bryce. I hope it'll get better. 2019-10-18 18-02-29 PDT Moini That's solved now, he switched to using let's encrypt. 2019-01-14 17-01-58 PST Moini I don't see it happen. 2019-01-15 15-01-17 PST Moini Break it for all other uploads and update nonetheless. 2019-04-02 13-54-18 PDT Moini I guess that's normal, even if quite nerve-wracking. 2020-03-11 10-30-33 PDT Moini Asked. 2019-04-02 13-37-03 PDT Moini Or only a developer in India... 2018-12-08 12-28-51 PST Moini Yes. That would definitely be useful. 2019-02-05 17-01-21 PST Moini The last one in that list that you added. 2019-01-15 14-30-57 PST Moini I'm going to change the category, then. 2019-12-03 12-32-54 PST Moini For other possible mods, perhaps ask on the list? It's hard to know without asking. Ah, that needs to be addressed. I hope they do get the emails... 2018-10-11 18-39-35 PDT Moini They always are... 2019-06-17 15-26-57 PDT Moini And exhausting. 2019-12-03 11-58-00 PST Moini Or applying for? Don't know the phrases. 2019-01-15 14-22-40 PST Moini You get there, Bryce? 2019-11-23 08-16-17 PST Moini (next time, please ask first) 2019-11-17 18-41-26 PST Moini (and make all board members able to do that, in case you're not there? Please :) ) 2019-12-03 12-35-47 PST Moini Bryce, thank you. I hope you won't get so frustrated with us to drop it all. I hope you will stay. 2018-10-11 18-58-26 PDT Moini Take care! 2019-01-16 10-05-48 PST Moini File uploading is fixed now, too. No more permission errors when trying to download. 2019-01-16 10-05-21 PST Moini Yes! 2019-12-03 12-21-13 PST Moini I don't know. I wish you could talk about it with honesty. Personally, I don't think that any of you has any bad intentions. 2019-03-12 07-52-49 PDT Moini Bryce, are you online? I need some help deciding what I should ask from Aude. 2020-11-18 05-00-27 PST Moini [ ](https://chat.inkscape.org/direct/bryce?msg=KKxnxzsWY49QyjFFy) Yes... 2020 sucked in many respects... esp. if one is living in your area. Riots, fires, political uncertainty, COVID, a challenging and time-consuming job, and then the daily family stuff on top of that, then Inkscape project people asking for attention can be a lot, I imagine.
My plump interpretation of the issue is this:
If you're mentioned, or tagged and then don't (cannot) ask what people wanted to know from you, they might interpret it as 'he's not there' and 'he's got no time' or, in the worst case 'he's not interested'. And they start trying to look for other ways to get their problem solved. Which may then involve trying to get permissions from you. They will also start to not include you, as you're not replying anyway. Which then may result in you feeling people want to take something from you and exclude you. They don't - they just want to be able to move forward, at least as far as I know. No buses, only practical considerations, to my understanding. I can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt you. Also, probably noone wants to take on your responsibility... they all already have theirs. Asking for access is something different.
For example, Mc would have upgraded the rocket.chat long ago, it's something he does for a living, he'd have figured it out - if he had had access. He wants to solve the problem we're facing, and would be perfectly capable of that (and trustworthy, too). Now we're waiting again. Currently for Manuel, I believe. Maybe he also didn't see the message. When he replies, I suppose your availability info will be outdated, and the date-finding process will start again. There are already people who cannot access the chat anymore. A public security issue also exists. () 2018-11-17 13-37-17 PST Moini (this was supposed to be in asterisks) 2019-01-14 17-22-48 PST Moini You're right, I don't get it...
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I am hoping I can get this to the correct area.
Illinois has passed a law like a number of other states requiring student
privacy information be posted.
SOPPA - Student Online Privacy Protection Act.
We have to have a signed Data Privacy Agreement with any company we share
data with and/or that collects personally identifiable information on
students.
Can you get this to the proper people and/or let me know who I need to
contact? I checked the national database and see that you have signed a
similar document for Hillsboro School District, OR.
This is for Woodridge School District 68 in Woodridge, Illinois
Thank you,
*Scott Dixon*
*Network Support Specialist*
*Woodridge School District 68*
*(630) 795-6861*
*dixons(a)woodridge68.org <dixons(a)woodridge68.org>*
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29 Apr '21
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How to Fix It
The address may be misspelled or may not exist. Try one or more of the following:
* Send the message again following these steps: In Outlook, open this non-delivery report (NDR) and choose Send Again from the Report ribbon. In Outlook on the web, select this NDR, then select the link "To send this message again, click here." Then delete and retype the entire recipient address. If prompted with an Auto-Complete List suggestion don't select it. After typing the complete address, click Send.
* Contact the recipient (by phone, for example) to check that the address exists and is correct.
* The recipient may have set up email forwarding to an incorrect address. Ask them to check that any forwarding they've set up is working correctly.
* Clear the recipient Auto-Complete List in Outlook or Outlook on the web by following the steps in this article: Fix email delivery issues for error code 5.1.10 in Office 365<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=532972>, and then send the message again. Retype the entire recipient address before selecting Send.
If the problem continues, forward this message to your email admin. If you're an email admin, refer to the More Info for Email Admins section below.
Was this helpful? Send feedback to Microsoft<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=525921>.
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More Info for Email Admins
Status code: 550 5.1.10
This error occurs because the sender sent a message to an email address hosted by Office 365 but the address is incorrect or doesn't exist at the destination domain. The error is reported by the recipient domain's email server, but most often it must be fixed by the person who sent the message. If the steps in the How to Fix It section above don't fix the problem, and you're the email admin for the recipient, try one or more of the following:
The email address exists and is correct - Confirm that the recipient address exists, is correct, and is accepting messages.
Synchronize your directories - If you have a hybrid environment and are using directory synchronization make sure the recipient's email address is synced correctly in both Office 365 and in your on-premises directory.
Errant forwarding rule - Check for forwarding rules that aren't behaving as expected. Forwarding can be set up by an admin via mail flow rules or mailbox forwarding address settings, or by the recipient via the Inbox Rules feature.
Recipient has a valid license - Make sure the recipient has an Office 365 license assigned to them. The recipient's email admin can use the Office 365 admin center to assign a license (Users > Active Users > select the recipient > Assigned License > Edit).
Mail flow settings and MX records are not correct - Misconfigured mail flow or MX record settings can cause this error. Check your Office 365 mail flow settings to make sure your domain and any mail flow connectors are set up correctly. Also, work with your domain registrar to make sure the MX records for your domain are configured correctly.
For more information and additional tips to fix this issue, see Fix email delivery issues for error code 5.1.10 in Office 365<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=532972>.
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Recipient Address: kclarke19(a)stokehigh.co.uk
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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:46:22 -0000
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