1:52 a.m.
Hi all,
We've got several proposals in various states of discussion, which I
think would be good to bring to a vote over the coming month.
In general do you guys prefer having a bunch of different things to vote
on in one go, or to have them spaced out time-wise to permit
deliberation?
Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
a. 2013 Developer Education Book Campaign
b. Funded Development Procedure
c. Job Exceptions for Priority Projects
d. Move Inkscape Board mailing list from SourceForge to Launchpad
Anything else that'll need votes?
Bryce
9:05 a.m.
On Sat, 2014-01-11 at 17:52 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
Hi all,
We've got several proposals in various states of discussion, which I
think would be good to bring to a vote over the coming month.
In general do you guys prefer having a bunch of different things to vote
on in one go, or to have them spaced out time-wise to permit
deliberation?
Vote when a topic is ready.
Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
a. 2013 Developer Education Book Campaign
b. Funded Development Procedure
c. Job Exceptions for Priority Projects
d. Move Inkscape Board mailing list from SourceForge to Launchpad
Anything else that'll need votes?
1. SVG Working group meetings.
I would like funding to attend two SVG working group meetings. There are
plans to hold one meeting before/after LGM (April 2-5, 2014 in Leipzig)
and one before/after The Graphical Web/SVGOpen (August 27-30, 2014 in
Winchester, England). This is a critical time for SVG 2. The new
features I am responsible for include mesh gradients, hatched fills, and
auto-flowed text. The move to "CSS based" text layout which brings in
auto-flowed text requires a lot of work which is easiest to do
face-to-face. I anticipate that I will get some funding support from the
organizers of the conferences.
A report from the Tokyo WG meeting can be found at:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=979
2. LGM
I would like funding to cover a hotel at LGM. At the moment, I plan on
giving an SVG 2 update, demoing the hidden SVG 2 festures in Inkscape.
I believe that nobody has stepped up to give an Inkscape talk at LGM.
Should the board be more pro-active in recruiting someone to go? It may
not be obvious to most developers that they can ask the board for
funding.
3. Hack session
I would like to organize a hack session focused on adding a framework to
Inkscape to handle SVG 2. Inkscape needs to be able to handle converting
between SVG 1.1 and SVG 2 on read-in and write-out. This should be added
in a generalized way.
SVG 2 offers quite a bit of new features to Inkscape. It is important
that we show an interest in implementing these features if we want them
to remain in SVG 2 and if we want others to support them. This is
discussed in more detail on a Wiki page for this topic:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG2
We would need to agree on a date, a place, who will/can participate,
what expenses would be covered.
Here are some possible sites:
* At LGM (there is a place we can use before/after LGM).
* At a Redhat office, Boston or Brno (Ted suggested this might be
possible)
* Chez moi, outside Paris.
4. Bug tracking recognition
We have just discussed books for developers, which not only should help
the level of code in Inkscape but also can be seen as a token reward for
our most active developers. I really would like to do something to
recognize how much ~suv had contributed to Inkscape through her work on
keeping our bug-tracker in order (and answering questions on IRC).
Tav
10:04 a.m.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:05:28AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
1. SVG Working group meetings.
I would like funding to attend two SVG working group meetings.
This sounds like an excellent idea for us to consider funding.
Can you draft up a proposal (in the repository), including estimated
costs and any deliverables from it (i.e. meeting reports, potential
followup actions, etc.)?
2. LGM
I would like funding to cover a hotel at LGM. At the moment, I plan on
giving an SVG 2 update, demoing the hidden SVG 2 festures in Inkscape.
I believe that nobody has stepped up to give an Inkscape talk at LGM.
Should the board be more pro-active in recruiting someone to go? It may
not be obvious to most developers that they can ask the board for
funding.
Good questions. How do others feel?
Personally, I think we should support with funding both presenters and
(perhaps to a lesser extent) attendees who have made important
contributions to Inkscape (e.g. bug triagers, documentation,
translators, etc.)
3. Hack session
I would like to organize a hack session focused on adding a framework to
Inkscape to handle SVG 2. Inkscape needs to be able to handle converting
between SVG 1.1 and SVG 2 on read-in and write-out. This should be added
in a generalized way.
SVG 2 offers quite a bit of new features to Inkscape. It is important
that we show an interest in implementing these features if we want them
to remain in SVG 2 and if we want others to support them. This is
discussed in more detail on a Wiki page for this topic:
http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SVG2
We would need to agree on a date, a place, who will/can participate,
what expenses would be covered.
Here are some possible sites:
* At LGM (there is a place we can use before/after LGM).
* At a Redhat office, Boston or Brno (Ted suggested this might be
possible)
* Chez moi, outside Paris.
I really like this idea. I think we should fund it ONLY if a heavy
degree of planning is done ahead of time, so-as to make maximal use of
the face-to-face time.
Also, I think for this item we should really couple it to a fundraiser,
because I think otherwise it risks depleting our reserves.
4. Bug tracking recognition
We have just discussed books for developers, which not only should help
the level of code in Inkscape but also can be seen as a token reward for
our most active developers. I really would like to do something to
recognize how much ~suv had contributed to Inkscape through her work on
keeping our bug-tracker in order (and answering questions on IRC).
Agreed. Not just ~suv but also translators and others have done SO much
to help support the project. I'm guessing none of them would care to
have a programming book, though!
Suggestions for non-coder reward ideas?
Bryce
10:41 a.m.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:05:28AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Vote when a topic is ready.
> Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
> Anything else that'll need votes?
1. SVG Working group meetings.
2. LGM
3. Hack session
All good ideas. I've seeded proposal pages for each of these three
ideas in the board docs, as I think they're pretty close.
bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.board/+junk/board-docs/
All three will require a "voting statement" made before we can vote
(basically, turn the premise into a Yes/No question), as well as
specifying any particulars like (estimated) costs, procedures, etc.
4. Bug tracking recognition
We have just discussed books for developers, which not only should help
the level of code in Inkscape but also can be seen as a token reward for
our most active developers. I really would like to do something to
recognize how much ~suv had contributed to Inkscape through her work on
keeping our bug-tracker in order (and answering questions on IRC).
This one I think is totally cool, but needs to be more specifically
defined before it's votable.
Bryce
5:16 a.m.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 02:41:55AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:05:28AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
>
> Vote when a topic is ready.
>
> > Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
> > Anything else that'll need votes?
>
> 1. SVG Working group meetings.
>
> 2. LGM
>
> 3. Hack session
All good ideas. I've seeded proposal pages for each of these three
ideas in the board docs, as I think they're pretty close.
bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.board/+junk/board-docs/
All three will require a "voting statement" made before we can vote
(basically, turn the premise into a Yes/No question), as well as
specifying any particulars like (estimated) costs, procedures, etc.
Tav, would you mind drafting up the three items above? I think you can
commit directly to the board-docs bzr tree, if not let me know. I'll be
available for proof-reading and copyediting as well.
Once they're ready, let me know and I'll run a vote.
Bryce
> 4. Bug tracking recognition
>
> We have just discussed books for developers, which not only should help
> the level of code in Inkscape but also can be seen as a token reward for
> our most active developers. I really would like to do something to
> recognize how much ~suv had contributed to Inkscape through her work on
> keeping our bug-tracker in order (and answering questions on IRC).
This one I think is totally cool, but needs to be more specifically
defined before it's votable.
Bryce
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10:07 a.m.
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 21:16 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 02:41:55AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:05:28AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
> >
> > Vote when a topic is ready.
> >
> > > Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
> > > Anything else that'll need votes?
> >
> > 1. SVG Working group meetings.
> >
> > 2. LGM
> >
> > 3. Hack session
>
> All good ideas. I've seeded proposal pages for each of these three
> ideas in the board docs, as I think they're pretty close.
>
> bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.board/+junk/board-docs/
>
> All three will require a "voting statement" made before we can vote
> (basically, turn the premise into a Yes/No question), as well as
> specifying any particulars like (estimated) costs, procedures, etc.
Tav, would you mind drafting up the three items above? I think you can
commit directly to the board-docs bzr tree, if not let me know. I'll be
available for proof-reading and copyediting as well.
Once they're ready, let me know and I'll run a vote.
I'll get to these soon. There is an SVG face-to-face meeting starting
today that I need to prepare some things for. (I am not at the meeting
so its more urgent that I get the stuff prepared on the web as there
will be some discussions that will impact Inkscape... like a crazy
proposal to remove the <symbol> element.)
Tav
2:46 a.m.
On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 11:07:56AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 21:16 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 02:41:55AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:05:28AM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
> > >
> > > Vote when a topic is ready.
> > >
> > > > Here's the topics I'm thinking we should vote on:
> > > > Anything else that'll need votes?
> > >
> > > 1. SVG Working group meetings.
> > >
> > > 2. LGM
> > >
> > > 3. Hack session
> >
> > All good ideas. I've seeded proposal pages for each of these three
> > ideas in the board docs, as I think they're pretty close.
> >
> > bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.board/+junk/board-docs/
> >
> > All three will require a "voting statement" made before we can vote
> > (basically, turn the premise into a Yes/No question), as well as
> > specifying any particulars like (estimated) costs, procedures, etc.
>
> Tav, would you mind drafting up the three items above? I think you can
> commit directly to the board-docs bzr tree, if not let me know. I'll be
> available for proof-reading and copyediting as well.
>
> Once they're ready, let me know and I'll run a vote.
I'll get to these soon. There is an SVG face-to-face meeting starting
today that I need to prepare some things for. (I am not at the meeting
so its more urgent that I get the stuff prepared on the web as there
will be some discussions that will impact Inkscape... like a crazy
proposal to remove the <symbol> element.)
Tav
Sounds good, thanks!
Bryce
3:18 p.m.
Hi,
I've updated the proposals on:
1. SVG Working group meetings
2. LGM
3. Hack session
I would like to gauge interest in LGM. I just sent out an email to the
developer's mailing list.
The hack session probably needs some discussion before a vote.
Tav
10:31 a.m.
On Tue, Feb 04, 2014 at 04:18:29PM +0100, Tavmjong Bah wrote:
Hi,
I've updated the proposals on:
1. SVG Working group meetings
2. LGM
3. Hack session
I would like to gauge interest in LGM. I just sent out an email to the
developer's mailing list.
The hack session probably needs some discussion before a vote.
Tav, I agree the hack session needs further discussion. Can you please
post it as an [RFC] and solicit more opinions on it? Then let me know
when you think it's ready for voting on.
Tav
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