I want to test every in the pen with spiro, what do you think about, performance, improvements. Thanks for your time. Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: SorinN <nemes.sorin@...400...> Reply-to: nemes.sorin@...400... Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:37:33 +0800 ..compiling right now do you have a specific request for testing ? .. 2012/10/30 Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Hello, I update the SpiroLive branch to redraw spiro when mouse stop, no gaps now. In my 5 years old computer -debian- spiro redraw ok, now better whith the tolerance fix. If isn't enoft we can increase the tolerance level. Less tolerance show more fluid spiros, more tolerance spiro curve "jumps" more. I dont want to add a botton to show optionaly, because i think this function is basic while drawing, but if we decide to make optional y start whith this. Any more betatester ;) ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel -- Nemes Ioan Sorin

also I was every here and there in China in the meantime across few chinese provinces very impressed by the speed of progress (4 years ago everything was ...way back on the past ...) back in topic - today I hope to finish my upgrade from Maya to Nadia so give me the path for the new branch we should talk about the "on canvas" ..general usability points we need for new controls [oops new on-canvas controls ?] and the point / node workflow non familiar users (with splines) will try hard to use bezier modifiers - so bezier modifiers should not be there at all ..that mean we need to offer a compensation - they will not make the mental link to use node types in the first second - therefore maybe we can add a new button in toolbar - Spiro Spline. From the start any user can use this tool to create spiro splines NOT pnly options presented under other line drawing tools (probably one want to create a spiro spline after he open a new file - why he can't have this option directly on toolbox ..without the need to use another 2 clicks) I think it's time to make a mockup about this ..new tool 2012/11/18 Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> -- Nemes Ioan Sorin

I propose to merge SpiroLive Branch. If anybody can translate the code coments in spanich to english in src/pen-context.cpp and in the lang files .po, are welcome. SpiroLive is the first step necesary to go to BSpline edditing. Now i focus in the recently created branch BSpline. Any help are welcome. The first problem whith bspline is: BSpline are created by rect lines joined by a cusp node. This is perfect but i have a problem, i need a special node CUSP but flaged diferent than the normal CUSP node. I need it for handle cusp nodes in the final BSpline. I find a way but i don find another way better: BSpline mode normal created by a CUSP node BSpline mode CUSP created by a node not CUSP whith 1 point distance handle/s Attach a base document about BSplines for reference. Hi -----Mensaje original----- De: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Reply-to: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Para: nemes.sorin@...400... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:16:04 +0100 I want to test every in the pen with spiro, what do you think about, performance, improvements. Thanks for your time. Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: SorinN <nemes.sorin@...400...> Reply-to: nemes.sorin@...400... Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:37:33 +0800 ..compiling right now do you have a specific request for testing ? .. 2012/10/30 Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Hello, I update the SpiroLive branch to redraw spiro when mouse stop, no gaps now. In my 5 years old computer -debian- spiro redraw ok, now better whith the tolerance fix. If isn't enoft we can increase the tolerance level. Less tolerance show more fluid spiros, more tolerance spiro curve "jumps" more. I dont want to add a botton to show optionaly, because i think this function is basic while drawing, but if we decide to make optional y start whith this. Any more betatester ;) ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

Thanks very much Guiu. All the coments are in src/pen-context.cpp. The ".po" files are in the root directory "po" -not in src-. There is a ".po" file for each lenguage. In this file, search for "pen-context" (a few entries only). I put a example more comprensible. ------------------------------------------------------------- #: ../src/pen-context.cpp:792 msgid "" "<b>Click</b> or <b>click and drag</b> to close and finish the path." " <b>Shift</b>to cusp node" msgstr "" "XXXXXXX -- Here the translation." -------------------------------------------------------------- Hi and thanks again for your time, Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: Guiu Rocafort <neandertalspeople@...400...> Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Start of BSpline Fecha: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:00:02 +0100 On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: Hi, I'm spanish so I'm going to help a little bit translating these spanish coments to english ;) Which .po files need also to be translated ? I'm not very used to the .po translations system so if you point me out which files need to be translated also would save me some time. PD: Just to make completely sure, you are talking about the BSpline branch in launchpad ( https://code.launchpad.net/~jabiertxof/inkscape/BSpline ) right ? Thanks

Thanks very much for your big contribution Guiu. I update branch. Whith your translartions and some updates (handles,redraws, and ui) The po files are for any lenguages not in english and spanish, yet translated. Sorry for the confusion. -----Mensaje original----- De: Guiu Rocafort <neandertalspeople@...400...> Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Start of BSpline Fecha: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:06:19 +0100 Hi I've translated the pen-context.cpp file. I attach the diff file with the last pen-context.cpp from the BSpline branch in inkscape launchpad. I don't understand what needs to be translated in the .po files since all I found in spanish were in code comments and the .po files contain strings that are showed by the program right ? Since all the spanish content was only code comments i understand there is no need to modify any .po files but correct me if i'm wrong ;) Everything all right ? I hope my tiny contributions are useless to that great project inkscape is ! On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote:

Jabier ..much better and intuitive but we need some keyboard keys to control the direction of the curve right after we make a new node (as when you want to create a sharp corner for your shape). on my vision - 3 keyboard controls we will need to use when we define the shape using the mouse movement - a key for switching the node type - a key to reverse the direction of the curve (when we move the cursor) - a key to change the line type ( line / curve ) - from the last created node to the next "node to be created" .. then - probably the final step will be an icon for spiro tool on the main tool-bar. ++ 2012/12/5 Guiu Rocafort <neandertalspeople@...400...> -- Nemes Ioan Sorin

Hi to all. I have BSpline branch just to go but i have a problem: When create the curve for BSPline it store the data but when move a point or when aply BSpline liveEffect manualy, the data saved is diferent. I create the original node by SPCurve->moveto and curveto but it store it in relative instead absolute -i think but not sure-. I check punting Geom::abs to the points and the same. Here are two outputs: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL BSPLINE NOT MOVED <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -87.805389,181.66632 -66.9945959,228.68836 C 17.168526,645.50232 151.4676,702.07519 201.00494,686.96208 250.54227,671.84896 326.97976,498.54021 326.97976,498.54021" id="path10" inkscape:path-effect="#path-effect12" inkscape:original-d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -118.530164,245.23482 -118.530164,245.23482 0,0 278.954605,117.50835 278.954605,117.50835 0,0 103.20299,-233.99489 103.20299,-233.99489" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL BSPLINE MOVED AND RECOLOCATE(POINT->UP->DOWN) <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -79.02406,163.49805 -52.27538,223.95508 C 37.82563,654.20403 130.8012,693.36957 194.49292,673.94539 258.18465,654.5212 326.97976,498.54021 326.97976,498.54021" id="path10" inkscape:path-effect="#path-effect12" inkscape:original-d="M 63.352329,369.79193 -55.177835,615.02675 223.77677,732.5351 326.97976,498.54021" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" sodipodi:nodetypes="cccc" /> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Reply-to: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Para: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Cc: nemes.sorin <nemes.sorin@...400...>, Romain de Bossoreille <romain2boss@...48...>, moduli16 <moduli16@...400...> Asunto: Start of BSpline Fecha: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 03:44:17 +0100 I propose to merge SpiroLive Branch. If anybody can translate the code coments in spanich to english in src/pen-context.cpp and in the lang files .po, are welcome. SpiroLive is the first step necesary to go to BSpline edditing. Now i focus in the recently created branch BSpline. Any help are welcome. The first problem whith bspline is: BSpline are created by rect lines joined by a cusp node. This is perfect but i have a problem, i need a special node CUSP but flaged diferent than the normal CUSP node. I need it for handle cusp nodes in the final BSpline. I find a way but i don find another way better: BSpline mode normal created by a CUSP node BSpline mode CUSP created by a node not CUSP whith 1 point distance handle/s Attach a base document about BSplines for reference. Hi -----Mensaje original----- De: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Reply-to: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Para: nemes.sorin@...400... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:16:04 +0100 I want to test every in the pen with spiro, what do you think about, performance, improvements. Thanks for your time. Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: SorinN <nemes.sorin@...400...> Reply-to: nemes.sorin@...400... Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:37:33 +0800 ..compiling right now do you have a specific request for testing ? .. 2012/10/30 Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Hello, I update the SpiroLive branch to redraw spiro when mouse stop, no gaps now. In my 5 years old computer -debian- spiro redraw ok, now better whith the tolerance fix. If isn't enoft we can increase the tolerance level. Less tolerance show more fluid spiros, more tolerance spiro curve "jumps" more. I dont want to add a botton to show optionaly, because i think this function is basic while drawing, but if we decide to make optional y start whith this. Any more betatester ;) ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

Hi to all. Problem solved. Bad coding i think. Thanks, Jabier. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi to all. I have BSpline branch just to go but i have a problem: When create the curve for BSPline it store the data but when move a point or when aply BSpline liveEffect manualy, the data saved is diferent. I create the original node by SPCurve->moveto and curveto but it store it in relative instead absolute -i think but not sure-. I check punting Geom::abs to the points and the same. Here are two outputs: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL BSPLINE NOT MOVED <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -87.805389,181.66632 -66.9945959,228.68836 C 17.168526,645.50232 151.4676,702.07519 201.00494,686.96208 250.54227,671.84896 326.97976,498.54021 326.97976,498.54021" id="path10" inkscape:path-effect="#path-effect12" inkscape:original-d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -118.530164,245.23482 -118.530164,245.23482 0,0 278.954605,117.50835 278.954605,117.50835 0,0 103.20299,-233.99489 103.20299,-233.99489" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" /> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORIGINAL BSPLINE MOVED AND RECOLOCATE(POINT->UP->DOWN) <path style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:1px;stroke-linecap:butt;stroke-linejoin:miter;stroke-opacity:1" d="m 63.352329,369.79193 c 0,0 -79.02406,163.49805 -52.27538,223.95508 C 37.82563,654.20403 130.8012,693.36957 194.49292,673.94539 258.18465,654.5212 326.97976,498.54021 326.97976,498.54021" id="path10" inkscape:path-effect="#path-effect12" inkscape:original-d="M 63.352329,369.79193 -55.177835,615.02675 223.77677,732.5351 326.97976,498.54021" inkscape:connector-curvature="0" sodipodi:nodetypes="cccc" /> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Reply-to: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Para: inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net&gt; Cc: nemes.sorin <nemes.sorin@...400...>, Romain de Bossoreille <romain2boss@...48...>, moduli16 <moduli16@...400...> Asunto: Start of BSpline Fecha: Mon, 03 Dec 2012 03:44:17 +0100 I propose to merge SpiroLive Branch. If anybody can translate the code coments in spanich to english in src/pen-context.cpp and in the lang files .po, are welcome. SpiroLive is the first step necesary to go to BSpline edditing. Now i focus in the recently created branch BSpline. Any help are welcome. The first problem whith bspline is: BSpline are created by rect lines joined by a cusp node. This is perfect but i have a problem, i need a special node CUSP but flaged diferent than the normal CUSP node. I need it for handle cusp nodes in the final BSpline. I find a way but i don find another way better: BSpline mode normal created by a CUSP node BSpline mode CUSP created by a node not CUSP whith 1 point distance handle/s Attach a base document about BSplines for reference. Hi -----Mensaje original----- De: Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Reply-to: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Para: nemes.sorin@...400... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:16:04 +0100 I want to test every in the pen with spiro, what do you think about, performance, improvements. Thanks for your time. Jabier. -----Mensaje original----- De: SorinN <nemes.sorin@...400...> Reply-to: nemes.sorin@...400... Para: jabier.arraiza@...2893... Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Asunto: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Help testing SpiroLive Fecha: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:37:33 +0800 ..compiling right now do you have a specific request for testing ? .. 2012/10/30 Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> Hello, I update the SpiroLive branch to redraw spiro when mouse stop, no gaps now. In my 5 years old computer -debian- spiro redraw ok, now better whith the tolerance fix. If isn't enoft we can increase the tolerance level. Less tolerance show more fluid spiros, more tolerance spiro curve "jumps" more. I dont want to add a botton to show optionaly, because i think this function is basic while drawing, but if we decide to make optional y start whith this. Any more betatester ;) ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_sfd2d_oct _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> wrote: Hi Jabier. I cannot take a look until friday because I'm busy this week, but when I have a little time I will translate the comments. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Hi Jabier I've just changed the chinese city ..;) now I have to wait until they will install a new internet connection I will try new bzr version as soon as possible .. good luck and cheers from Ganzhou 2012/12/10 Jabier Arraiza <jabier.arraiza@...2893...> -- Nemes Ioan Sorin