New video: Improvements to the new Measurement Tool in Inkscape
A new screencast showing the improvements to the Measurement Tool implemented this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsdc
Happy hacking, Felipe Sanches
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 5:39 PM, Felipe Sanches <juca@...2270...>wrote:
Hello, I'd like to let you all know that I have been working on a new tool for measuring objects in Inkscape. Here is a screencast of the tool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZKnxTO11xE
But if you checkout the development code from Bazaar , then you'll see some new things that were implemented in the tool after recording the screencast (i.e. the tool now displays angle info also).
Happy Hacking, Felipe Sanches
PS: If you find bugs prease report them and assign the bugs to me at Lauchpad bug tracker.
Oh! that is a nice measurement tool! And so much easier to use! Thanks for the work Mr. Sanches! This will come handy :)
From the human-computer interaction standpoint can I suggest 3 points?
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'. Rationale: Custom font size spinner is a convenient functionality, but probably will not be used so often to put it on the main screen. 'Tool properties' are only a double click away and easily accessible.
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and transform' tooltip)
- Improving visibility of the measurement text by removing the current text outline and putting a rectangular background. I don't know if you will be able to see the attached image... if not, you can see it with some additional explanation here (http://cuts.thinking-garment.com/273) too.
sincerely,
Alex
On 11-06-20 14:11 , Felipe Sanches wrote:
A new screencast showing the improvements to the Measurement Tool implemented this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsdc
2011/6/20 Aleksandar Kovač <alex.open.design@...400...>
** Oh! that is a nice measurement tool! And so much easier to use! Thanks for the work Mr. Sanches! This will come handy :)
From the human-computer interaction standpoint can I suggest 3 points?
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'.
Rationale: Custom font size spinner is a convenient functionality, but probably will not be used so often to put it on the main screen. 'Tool properties' are only a double click away and easily accessible.
But we also do not have many things in the toolbar, so it doesnt really botter to have it there. If we ever add more things to the toolbar then we may consider moving the fontsize spin to tool properties. I think it will be used frequently because of readability of the measure labels versus length of segments being mesured.
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and
transform' tooltip)
good. I will do it!
- Improving visibility of the measurement text by removing the current text
outline and putting a rectangular background. I don't know if you will be able to see the attached image... if not, you can see it with some additional explanation here (http://cuts.thinking-garment.com/273) too.
hmm... that's nice! I think I'll try it too. Actually, it is very similar to the way Glyphs does it. (Glyphs is the proprietary font design tool in which I have seen a measure tool that inspired me to implement an equivalent tool in Inkscape)
Felipe Sanches
One thing I could not tell from the video - does it support node snapping ?
-Rob A>
On 6/20/11, Felipe Sanches <juca@...2270...> wrote:
2011/6/20 Aleksandar Kovač <alex.open.design@...400...>
** Oh! that is a nice measurement tool! And so much easier to use! Thanks for the work Mr. Sanches! This will come handy :)
From the human-computer interaction standpoint can I suggest 3 points?
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'.
Rationale: Custom font size spinner is a convenient functionality, but probably will not be used so often to put it on the main screen. 'Tool properties' are only a double click away and easily accessible.
But we also do not have many things in the toolbar, so it doesnt really botter to have it there. If we ever add more things to the toolbar then we may consider moving the fontsize spin to tool properties. I think it will be used frequently because of readability of the measure labels versus length of segments being mesured.
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and
transform' tooltip)
good. I will do it!
- Improving visibility of the measurement text by removing the current
text outline and putting a rectangular background. I don't know if you will be able to see the attached image... if not, you can see it with some additional explanation here (http://cuts.thinking-garment.com/273) too.
hmm... that's nice! I think I'll try it too. Actually, it is very similar to the way Glyphs does it. (Glyphs is the proprietary font design tool in which I have seen a measure tool that inspired me to implement an equivalent tool in Inkscape)
Felipe Sanches
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 3:31 PM, Rob Antonishen wrote:
One thing I could not tell from the video - does it support node snapping ?
Snapping isn't supported yet
Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org
Aleksandar Kovac
On Jun 20, 2011, at 17:19, Felipe Sanches <juca@...2270...> wrote:
2011/6/20 Aleksandar Kovač <alex.open.design@...400...> Oh! that is a nice measurement tool! And so much easier to use! Thanks for the work Mr. Sanches! This will come handy :)
From the human-computer interaction standpoint can I suggest 3 points?
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'.
Rationale: Custom font size spinner is a convenient functionality, but probably will not be used so often to put it on the main screen. 'Tool properties' are only a double click away and easily accessible.
But we also do not have many things in the toolbar, so it doesnt really botter to have it there. If we ever add more things to the toolbar then we may consider moving the fontsize spin to tool properties. I think it will be used frequently because of readability of the measure labels versus length of segments being mesured.
You are right, not too many items on the tool properties bar.
"It was here and now they moved it!"
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and transform' tooltip)
good. I will do it!
- Improving visibility of the measurement text by removing the current text outline and putting a rectangular background. I don't know if you will be able to see the attached image... if not, you can see it with some additional explanation here (http://cuts.thinking-garment.com/273) too.
hmm... that's nice! I think I'll try it too. Actually, it is very similar to the way Glyphs does it. (Glyphs is the proprietary font design tool in which I have seen a measure tool that inspired me to implement an equivalent tool in Inkscape)
Felipe Sanches
Felipe, it seems that sent an unfinished message a couple of minutes earlier. Sorry about that!
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'.
But we also do not have many things in the toolbar, so it doesnt really botter to have it there. If we ever add more things to the toolbar then we may consider moving the fontsize spin to tool properties. I think it will be used frequently because of readability of the measure labels versus length of segments being mesured.
You are right, not too many items on the tool properties bar at this moment. I just wanted to suggest that moving a GUI element to it's place is maybe better to do earlier then later, when it's unavoidable. Especially now, when your tool is fresh ;) ...Moving later often causes "It was here, and now they moved it!" effect with the users :). I feel this control should be in the tool properties, but it's only a feeling. I don't know what others think about it.
Thanks again! :)
Alex
On 2011-06-20 10:19, Felipe Sanches wrote:
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and transform' tooltip)good. I will do it!
Actually in most cases tooltips should AUTOMATICALLY state the shortcut associated with it. If it does not, then you may want to look into why that is so. In particular, any tooltip for a "verb" automatically has the shortcut appended to it, and that should include all tools. One of the advantages is that it automatically follows the actual currently defined shortcuts, even if they differ from the defaults.
On 21/6/11 09:18, Jasper van de Gronde wrote:
On 2011-06-20 10:19, Felipe Sanches wrote:
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and transform' tooltip)good. I will do it!
Actually in most cases tooltips should AUTOMATICALLY state the shortcut associated with it. If it does not, then you may want to look into why that is so. In particular, any tooltip for a "verb" automatically has the shortcut appended to it, and that should include all tools. One of the advantages is that it automatically follows the actual currently defined shortcuts, even if they differ from the defaults.
See attached diff.
~suv
=== modified file 'share/keys/default.xml' --- share/keys/default.xml 2011-06-13 06:33:29 +0000 +++ share/keys/default.xml 2011-06-21 08:35:58 +0000 @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ <bind action="ArcPrefs" />
<bind key="m" action="ToolMeasure" /> - <bind key="M" action="ToolMeasure" /> + <bind key="M" action="ToolMeasure" display="true" />
<bind key="F9" modifiers="Shift" action="ToolStar" /> <bind key="asterisk" modifiers="Shift" action="ToolStar" />
implemented in bzr revision 10329 Thanks for the usability tip!
2011/6/20 Aleksandar Kovač <alex.open.design@...400...>
** Oh! that is a nice measurement tool! And so much easier to use! Thanks for the work Mr. Sanches! This will come handy :)
From the human-computer interaction standpoint can I suggest 3 points?
- Putting 'font size' spinner box to 'tool properties'.
Rationale: Custom font size spinner is a convenient functionality, but probably will not be used so often to put it on the main screen. 'Tool properties' are only a double click away and easily accessible.
- Adding the shortcut to the tooltip (see, for example, 'select and
transform' tooltip)
- Improving visibility of the measurement text by removing the current text
outline and putting a rectangular background. I don't know if you will be able to see the attached image... if not, you can see it with some additional explanation here (http://cuts.thinking-garment.com/273) too.
sincerely,
Alex
On 11-06-20 14:11 , Felipe Sanches wrote:
A new screencast showing the improvements to the Measurement Tool implemented this week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsdhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjfVyGbHsdc
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Would it be a nice feature if the actual 'tool' itself could be part of the document, including updates. So more like an interactive element you can place that will show you changes? (Similar to SketchUp?)
Stefan
From what Felipe has said, that's part of the plan.
Cheers, Josh
On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Stefan de Konink <stefan@...2063...> wrote:
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Would it be a nice feature if the actual 'tool' itself could be part of the document, including updates. So more like an interactive element you can place that will show you changes? (Similar to SketchUp?)
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~suv