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February Vectors Meeting
by Maren Hachmann 02 Feb '24

02 Feb '24

Hello Vectors (and everyone interested in what we do), our next Vectors team meeting is on Saturday! Here's the proposed agenda: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/-/issues/281 Please comment on items you think should be added (or add them yourself, if you have the necessary permission)! Here's a shortcut to find the concrete time for your time zone: https://inkscape.org/cals/ Maren

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Meeting notes: February 1st 2024
by pulsar17 01 Feb '24

01 Feb '24

Hi All, Here are the meeting notes for today's dev meeting: Attending: Mike, Jonathan, Skippr, Mansi, Tav, Rene, Ishaan Jonathan informed that we can start planning for the Bug Accelerator Program based on the responses on the mailing lists. Mansi worked on bevel filters and is working on other filters, also asked for any areas where help is required with Gtk4 migration. Tav suggested to start with Dialogs - comparing them with their Gtk3 counterparts, and trying to make them work if they don't work in Gtk4. Mike suggested to compile the Gtk4 branch and start using as a daily driver to identify any issues. Skippr worked on Snapping of Ellipse tool. Mike and Skippr discussed how to add an icon. Tav has been working on Drag and Drop and TreeLists. It might be closer to being a solved problem. Tav and Mike discussed about potentially converting the deprecated TreeView dialogs to the Gtk4 counterpart - TreeLists. Mike started to work on XML Dialog, focusing on the Attribute Editor. Potential conflict with Tav's work on XML Dialog was discussed. Rene has been working with build systems and Gtk4, and also rebuilt the CI environment. Rene also reduced CI timeouts to more sane values. Windows CI timeout limits being lower than required for Non project-member user forks was mentioned. Thanks to those who were able to make today! Best Ishaan Arora > A man’s not dead while his name is still spoken.

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Developer Meeting: Jan 24th 2024
by Martin Owens 24 Jan '24

24 Jan '24

Hey everyone, Attending: Martin, Tav, Mikekov, Krlr17, NPJ, Mansi, Jonathan, Marc, René ------ Mansi - introduced themselves, they are from India and are a computer science and interested to help with Inkscape with the filters. Tav - XML editor rewriting it for Gtk4 compatibility trying to add drag and drop but it's a bit of a nightmare. The code hasn't been touched much in 20 years. There's a couple of different options, and he's going for the tree view. He copied the code from the object dialog, but it turns out the drag and drop wasn't working in the object dialog and it was segfaulting with an asserts. But even fixing those wasn't fixing it. We discussed the details further for ten minutes. Mikekov - Been on vacation but recommends studying the Gtk4 which details all the new concepts and it's going to be important for our developers to learn them and get comfortable with using it properly. Krlr17 - Martin wanted to know how the issues tracker is going, they said they could do with some help. On bug fixing they think a bug accelerator program would greatly help. For the triaging side, we should do a mentorship program where we spend some time getting new people into the project. People on the forum might be a good source of potential candidates. Jonthan - Bug accelerator program, has a draft but is not ready to be submitted. The goal is to have people apply for the position. We talked briefly about the way the new project should be run. We created a poll to ask people who would be interested in joining the hiring committee. Marc and Jonathan said yes. Everyone else abstained. Another poll for who would be interested, and there were people who answered yes (named withheld). A third poll about if we should run the program again came back with a 100% in favor vote that we should do it. Jonathan will set up a PLC vote at the weekend. René - Martin asked about a testing bug on macOS and René will look at it and will be able to run the whole test suite locally to find out what's going on. René is reviewing the mac-statium article and keep in touch with those guys. Also working on Gtk building stuff in general. We talked briefly about rocket chat, matrix and alternative chat, we will continue to have this chat to make sure we're doing the right thing. We're not going to rush into making a change at this time though. Thanks to everyone who came and talked about developer issues. It was a full and fun meeting today. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Developer Meeting, Jan 8th 2024
by Martin Owens 08 Jan '24

08 Jan '24

Thanks to everyone who came today; Attending: Marc, Jonathan, Martin, René, Tav, James, Mikekov Next Meeting: Tuesday January 16th Calendar: https://inkscape.org/cals/event/1/ # FOSDEM We started by talking about FOSDEM, confirming which days we would be available. We need to book train tickets, Mark will be asking his employer, Martin will be asking pono. # Release Planning We spent the end of the meeting planning out the 1.4 release and what this would look like. We have decided that we will have one more Gtk3 release with fewer features for 2024 to give us extra room to making the Gtk4 release as good as it can be. There will be a refactoring freeze in a about a week and a feature freeze in a couple of months. So if developers have plans for features and fixes, now is the time to focus on getting them into 1.4 The Gtk4 branch merge will be posponed until after the 1.4.x branch split to make this process easier. # Developer topics Marc - Needed to update the windows store version of Inkscape Martin - Working on color refactoring, including a mass of tests and talked about using gtest in advanced ways James - Continuing work on fixing issues with the sp-grid and dealing with older files and making sure we're not corrupting old files too much. Marc and Martin pointed james towards an old archive on openclipart svgs to search for wild data. René - Has been working on the Gtk4 building for windows 7zip and will proceed from there into macOS building. It now compiles thanks to some fixes from pbs. - Additionally, MacStadium will release an article about us we don't know the contents but they've been friendly. - Is thinking about what we will do at LGM in Ren, France. It's not close to much. We talked a bit about the cutural ameinaties of various european towns. Mikekov - Has been working on a path specific element in the object attribute dialog. Designed by adam, It's requiring a refactoring and it'll take a bit of time to complete. - Found a new book for Gtk4 which describes the way the data model works and thinks others should read it too. GTK4 Rust book: https://gtk-rs.org/gtk4-rs/stable/latest/book/ Tav - Fixed a bug with the dash code using the Gtk grid view, the cursor would reset to t he start when editing in that box which made it hard to use. - The Gtk4 work is going slow at the moment. Thanks everybody! Best Regards, Martin Owens

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You're invited to celebrate Inkscape's 20th Anniversary with us!
by Maren Hachmann 16 Nov '23

16 Nov '23

Hello Everyone! Please join us in celebrating Inkscape's 20th Anniversary on Saturday, November 18, at 12:00 UTC (Session 1) and / or 18:00 UTC (Session 2) in our BBB room [1]. You'll hear Inkscape stories from fellow contributors, learn about the history of the project, and ask questions, too! We look forward to seeing you there! https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/ink-5ky-kre-jar Inkscape Vectors 1) The Big Blue Button room (hosted by Institut Polytechnique de Paris / Télécom Paris) will open at the above times.

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You're invited to participate in Inkscape's 20th Anniversary Party – RSVP
by Maren Hachmann 11 Nov '23

11 Nov '23

Hello fellow Inkscape Contributors! We're planning a couple of informal online sessions on Saturday, November 18 to celebrate Inkscape's 20th anniversary. We'd love to know if you can make it. And if you might want to participate. Click on the link and let us know! Thank you! https://office.inkscape.org/nextcloud/index.php/apps/forms/s/PbZwCdJZoDiGTL… Inkscape Vectors

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Congratulations, Inkscape!
by Maren Hachmann 06 Nov '23

06 Nov '23

Dear Inkscape Contributors, today, the Inkscape project celebrates its 20th anniversary. 20 years ago, it started out as a fork from the sodipodi project, with this email from Bryce: https://web.archive.org/web/20140110200622/https://sourceforge.net/p/sodipo… For this special day, Vectors have given the Community the opportunity to send their messages to you, the contributors. Please find the community's messages to you here: https://inkscape.gitlab.io/inkscape-docs/awesome-web-pages/20th_anniversary/ Happy 20th Anniversary! Maren

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November Vectors Meeting
by Maren Hachmann 03 Nov '23

03 Nov '23

Hello Vectors (and everyone interested in what we do), our next Vectors team meeting is on Saturday! Here's the proposed agenda: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/-/issues/278 Please comment on items you think should be added (or add them yourself, if you have the necessary permission)! Here's a shortcut to find the concrete time for your time zone: https://inkscape.org/cals/ Maren

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Developer Meeting Oct 28th 2023
by Ishaan Arora 28 Oct '23

28 Oct '23

Dear Inkscape Community, Here are the meeting notes from today's developer meeting: Meeting: https://inkscape.org/cals/event/1/ Present: Martin, Tav, Jabier, Jonathan, René, pbs, Ishaan, Jabier Next Meeting: Nov 5th René: CI Updates for MacOS and Windows. Windows CI switched to Gitlab. We did not respond to MacStadium runners, Rene contacted MacStadium for Windows runners, waiting for their reply. Gitlab CI minute consumption might increase because of this. Might need to switch to manual pipelines, this month hopefully can be passed without going over limit. 2 MRs for 1.3.x - Final updates for MacOS and Windows An idea for cleaning stale branches in the repository. Tav: Worked on File Dialogs, and building a native dialog on Windows. Some things are not present in Gtk4, like combo boxes, they're substituted by drop downs. Also looked at some glib::ustring vs std::string issues. pbs: Worked on polishing Handles - auto-reloading, finer snapping for some handles. Jabier: Working on Gtk4 dnd file, some MRs for 1.3.1 need merging (unrelated to LPEs) Ishaan: Worked on more website stuff, this week was mostly setting up local VMs. Plan to try with new dependencies and Django on a local VM in coming week. Once that is done, a box can be asked from OSUOSL. Discussions: Discussion about Native Dialog MRs (by Martin and Ted). Do we need to drop File Previews or work with upstream. Is it better to use Native dialogs or our custom one which has a marginal maintenance burden. Jonathan suggested the preview on Windows can be offloaded to any program of our choosing by modifying Registry keys. Jonathan asked about some xaml submodule updates. Martin suggested to prepare an MR for 1.3.1 pbs mentioned Inkview is very close, blocked on one file for Gtk4 pbs asked about a main gtk4 branch and Tav mentioned that it should be created rather soon. Should it be a branch or an MR? No resolution as of now. branch might be messy - "dev within dev" - anyone can rebase on top of MR's branch pbs also asked about when should the gtk4 stuff be merged. Some questions about Color manangement work by Martin - is it GPU compatible? because copying from main memory to GPU memory would be very slow - relevant if we plan to use a GPU renderer. Some history about OpenGL and Vulkan by pbs, contouring, SVG WG history by Tav lib2geom is compiled using C++20 when compiled with Inkscape, stand-alone its compiled with C++17 - not too big of an issue according to pbs Best Regards, Ishaan Arora

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Developer Meeting Oct 20th 2023
by Martin Owens 20 Oct '23

20 Oct '23

Dear Inkscape Community, Here are the meeting notes from today's developer meeting: Meeting: https://inkscape.org/cals/event/1/ Present: S.Ouchene, Martin, Tav, Marc, Krlr17, MikeKov, Jabier, Jonathan, René Next Meeting: October 28th # Gtk4 Tav has been working on the File Fialogs. When investigating the code there appear to be so many classes which at first seem like it's too many, but it's actually a permutation of open, save, windows, gtk. The real problem is the mixed up way they're written. The new Gtk4 dialogs all return Gio::File objects, and we should be using these more within our own code to avoid the conversions between std::string and Glib::ustring. Issues with the filter drop-down, keeping things in sync. Probably get rid of the win32 dialogs. Martin suggests not spending too much time trying to keep functionality which we will probably have to redesign anyway or that would take a ton of work to support. Especially if it involves hacking the Gtk widget tree in the dialog which is prone to errors. # Building and Infrastructure Marc asked Rene why the macstatium runner doesn't any more, it's blocking the 1.3.x branch. Rene wasn't aware of any issues, but to cope with it we can migrate it to the normal windows runners. There are some permissions issues to work out between Rene and Patrick to make sure the machines are accessible by more people as Rene doesn't have access to the machine Checking out CI minutes. We're ok, but cutting it close with the amount of spare minutes. Marc wanted to ask about a specific merge request related to building and CI. A short explanation about windows docker. Although this is probably not available to GitLab, but worth checking out as downloads of depedencies take the longest time in our builds and cutting this part out would be very good. Rene has been working on dependency updates. Looking into Gtk3 and 4 deps. Especially regarding libadwaita which is complicated to build with deps that don't build yet on macOS. Working through the depedency stack, for example cairo has made all their symbols private like poppler. This is worth keeping in mind when we use private symbols. Brief talk about the use of font config and freetype uses in inkscape. Libjpeg-turbo claims to be much faster than regular jpeg library. It's supposed to be compatible and more capable. Rene is interested because jpeg is built really early. Mike says it has asembler instructions for intel and wonders if this would work on macOS. Rene will make a test to try it out. # Next Version (1.3) Martin talked about his 1.3.x backporting work, some basic requests for how to tag merge requests for the backport and the target dates. All work should be completed by the end of the month giving people enough time to test 1.3.1rc1 (or similar). Jabier has finished helping with the fixes for LPE crashes and offers to help with the backporting process. But he has some worries about possible regressions from his fixes in the LPE code and asks for help testing the LPEs. Marc provides a crash issue and asks about if it's fixed. # Color Refactoring Martin has been working on doing the color refactoring. There are two main ideas, the first is to make sure colors that use profiles are tied to their profiles using a URIHandler, so we can see what objects are in use and clean them up. We can also use this to make a list of used colors for the palettes. The second is to support different spaces and not convert everything to sRGB in order to store the numbers in our code. An icc profile is not required to specify a different color space, and we should be able to output css4 like colors (for example hsl(...)) Marc shared an older merge request with his work on refactoring and Martin said this would be useful to compare it all. Mike asked for a location for color profiles and we talked breifly about color profile data. # Other Business Mikekov has been helping with merge requests. Jonthan has been waiting on feedback for the grants proposal. We'll be meeting with pono on Monday after a two week gap in SFC meetings for various things. Big thanks to everyone who came to today's meeting. You don't have to dress up to attend next week's developer meeting. It's a Saturday and attendance is lower, so we might just have a social or may just talk about 1.3, depending on the crowd. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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