2:41 a.m.
> The LPE choose dropdown box is getting really huge now. Who wants
to
> make mockups of what is a better system for applying effects?
What about just a hierarchical menu with submenus, similar to the Effects menu?
I think this is an issue that needs more to be discussed before coding
anything (search for filters ?)
Here is a first draft for LPE submenus, please comment and modify :
=Artistic= // Everything that changes the path style (on a visual
point of view)
Freehand Shape
Interpolate Sub-Paths
Pattern Along Path
Sketch
Stitch Sub-Paths
=Create= // create a very different path
Gears
Spiro spline
? VonKoch
=Path Tweak= //small modifications
Knot
=Distort= // change the path shape
Bend
Envelope Deformation
Lattice Deformation
Perspective path
=Technical= // tools for tech and serious drawings
Angle bisector
Boolops
Circle (center+radius)
Circle through 3 points
Construct grid
Mirror symmetry
Offset
Parallel
Perpendicular bisector
Ruler
Rotate copies
Tangent to curve
4:16 a.m.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Steren <steren.giannini@...400...> wrote:
Here is a first draft for LPE submenus, please comment and modify :
I would avoid vague terms such as "artistic" - everything can be
artistic if used for artistic purposes :) Here's my proposal:
== Path operations:
Boolops
Mirror symmetry
Offset
Spiro
Knot - better something like "Suppress intersections"
== Subpath operations:
Interpolate
Stitch
== Adorn path:
Freehand Shape - same as Pattern Along Path, why?! must be removed
Pattern Along Path
Sketch
== Generate:
Gears
VonKoch - more descriptive name anyone?
Grid
Ruler
Rotate copies - maybe better "Rotated copies"?
== Distort:
Bend
Envelope Deformation
Lattice Deformation
Perspective path
== Geometry:
Angle bisector
Circle (center+radius)
Circle through 3 points
Parallel
Perpendicular bisector
Tangent to curve
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8:26 a.m.
I think this is a nice subdivision, but I am wondering how to make the
UI.
Do we want a button "Add effect..." that spawns something like a
hierarchical popup menu. Or, rightclick the stack list to spawn that
popupmenu. Or a big list of expandable categories (like a tree list of
folders on your harddisk), that one can double click to add an effect.
Etc...
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Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] LPE dropdown box (was : NEW:
LPE Interpolate)
== Path operations:
Boolops
Mirror symmetry
Offset
Spiro
Knot - better something like "Suppress intersections"
== Subpath operations:
Interpolate
Stitch
== Adorn path:
Freehand Shape - same as Pattern Along Path, why?! must be removed
Pattern Along Path
Sketch
== Generate:
Gears
VonKoch - more descriptive name anyone?
Grid
Ruler
Rotate copies - maybe better "Rotated copies"?
== Distort:
Bend
Envelope Deformation
Lattice Deformation
Perspective path
== Geometry:
Angle bisector
Circle (center+radius)
Circle through 3 points
Parallel
Perpendicular bisector
Tangent to curve
3:26 p.m.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:26 PM, <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> wrote:
I think this is a nice subdivision, but I am wondering how to make
the
UI.
Do we want a button "Add effect..." that spawns something like a
hierarchical popup menu. Or, rightclick the stack list to spawn that
popupmenu. Or a big list of expandable categories (like a tree list of
folders on your harddisk), that one can double click to add an effect.
Etc...
Cannot we just use a pop-down list, as now, but with submenus?
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5:12 p.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: bulia byak [mailto:buliabyak@...400...]
Sent: donderdag 31 juli 2008 8:27
To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan)
Cc: steren.giannini@...400...; inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] LPE dropdown box (was : NEW:
LPE Interpolate)
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:26 PM,
<J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> wrote:
> I think this is a nice subdivision, but I am wondering how
to make the
> UI.
> Do we want a button "Add effect..." that spawns something like a
> hierarchical popup menu. Or, rightclick the stack list to
spawn that
> popupmenu. Or a big list of expandable categories (like a
tree list of
> folders on your harddisk), that one can double click to add
an effect.
> Etc...
Cannot we just use a pop-down list, as now, but with submenus?
I don't think it is possible to add submenu's to a combobox which we
use now. Note that now, you have to select an effect, and then
press "add". What I was proposing is an "Add..." button that spawns
a menu like the ">>" button on the toolbar does (when not all icons
fit on it) and adding the effect when clicking on it. So instead of
first selecting, then adding; do them at once.
12:56 a.m.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:12 AM, <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> wrote:
I don't think it is possible to add submenu's to a combobox
which we
use now. Note that now, you have to select an effect, and then
press "add". What I was proposing is an "Add..." button that spawns
a menu like the ">>" button on the toolbar does (when not all icons
fit on it) and adding the effect when clicking on it. So instead of
first selecting, then adding; do them at once.
Sounds good - but then, I think the button should not just show a +
sign, but say "Add effect", ideally with a triangle mark that
indicates that this button can be "expanded".
--
bulia byak
Inkscape. Draw Freely.
http://www.inkscape.org
1:02 a.m.
That or if you stick with the drop down you populate it with the 10 most
used and have a seperator and then more.... at the bottom that popus up a
full list.
Make the 10 act like the recent files and you end up with a drop down that
probably has the ones you want most of the time, but easy access to the
rest.
2008/7/31 bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...>
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 5:12 AM, <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...>
wrote:
> I don't think it is possible to add submenu's to a combobox which we
> use now. Note that now, you have to select an effect, and then
> press "add". What I was proposing is an "Add..." button that
spawns
> a menu like the ">>" button on the toolbar does (when not all icons
> fit on it) and adding the effect when clicking on it. So instead of
> first selecting, then adding; do them at once.
Sounds good - but then, I think the button should not just show a +
sign, but say "Add effect", ideally with a triangle mark that
indicates that this button can be "expanded".
--
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http://www.inkscape.org
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11:52 a.m.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM, john cliff <john.cliff@...400...> wrote:
That or if you stick with the drop down you populate it with the 10
most
used and have a seperator and then more.... at the bottom that popus up a
full list.
Make the 10 act like the recent files and you end up with a drop down that
probably has the ones you want most of the time, but easy access to the
rest.
I think we really have to categorize this huge list. This 10 most used LPEs
can be an idea, but if I have to strive to find another effect which is not
in this list, it's a problem.
noon
By all means have a categorised list in the pop up for "more..." but for my
usage at least I can see the top 10 covering at least 95% of my time, with
others 5% at most. I'd rather search a bit 5% of the time than have to dig
through categories the other 95%
2008/7/31 Steren <steren.giannini@...400...>
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:02 AM, john cliff
<john.cliff@...400...> wrote:
> That or if you stick with the drop down you populate it with the 10 most
> used and have a seperator and then more.... at the bottom that popus up a
> full list.
> Make the 10 act like the recent files and you end up with a drop down that
> probably has the ones you want most of the time, but easy access to the
> rest.
>
I think we really have to categorize this huge list. This 10 most used LPEs
can be an idea, but if I have to strive to find another effect which is not
in this list, it's a problem.
12:48 p.m.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:00:49 -0400
"john cliff" <john.cliff@...400...> wrote:
By all means have a categorised list in the pop up for
"more..." but
for my usage at least I can see the top 10 covering at least 95% of
my time, with others 5% at most. I'd rather search a bit 5% of the
time than have to dig through categories the other 95%
Seems like a dynamically calculated "most popular" or "more recently
used" list or category would be the most effective? I think gimp has
added something like that for their filters... yes, they have a
"Recently used" category at the top of the menu, in addition to the
Repeat / Reshow last. Doesn't seem to persist across sessions though,
probably should.
Cheers -Terry
9:58 p.m.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 7:48 AM, Terry Brown wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:00:49 -0400
"john cliff" wrote:
> By all means have a categorised list in the pop up for "more..." but
> for my usage at least I can see the top 10 covering at least 95% of
> my time, with others 5% at most. I'd rather search a bit 5% of the
> time than have to dig through categories the other 95%
Seems like a dynamically calculated "most popular" or "more recently
used" list or category would be the most effective? I think gimp has
added something like that for their filters... yes, they have a
"Recently used" category at the top of the menu, in addition to the
Repeat / Reshow last. Doesn't seem to persist across sessions though,
probably should.
GIMP is a different beast. You can go and assign any hotkey to any
menu item there, so accessing most used color tools and
filters/scripts there is not an issue.
Alexandre
2:16 a.m.
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 8:00 PM, john cliff <john.cliff@...400...> wrote:
By all means have a categorised list in the pop up for "more..." but for my
usage at least I can see the top 10 covering at least 95% of my time, with others 5% at
most. I'd rather search a bit 5% of the time than have to dig through categories the
other 95%
I didn't say it was a bad idea to have the 10 most used LPE. I think
it's a good idea.
But for the whole list, why can't we do categories ? The answer
"because a GTK drop list can't have subcategories"is not an answer, we
must find another way to do it.
Johan said :
What I was proposing is an "Add..." button that spawns
a menu like the ">>" button on the toolbar does (when not all icons
fit on it) and adding the effect when clicking on it
Well it sounds good to me
2:50 a.m.
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Steren <steren.giannini@...400...> wrote:
But for the whole list, why can't we do categories ? The answer
"because a GTK drop list can't have subcategories"is not an answer, we
must find another way to do it.
This is exactly what I think too.
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7:36 p.m.
New subject: What to do with these?
The last Win versions (21, 22 Jan) are 6.3MB files which extract to .jar files. Veeeeeery
interesting but what does one do with them? They do not appear different to the same files
in the full 19 Jan version.
Erik
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