Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email). Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on: <replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those. Ted
Hi Ted,
I'd like to hear from Marc, if he's available, before doing anything specific. Marc, what do you think about the proposal for committee meetings?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 19:40 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email).
Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on: <replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those.
Ted
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
From what I understand on how we got to this point, this would be what I'd ask the SFC.
Dear SFC,
we'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on:
- While we do not want to give up on the decentralized volunteer-/community-driven nature of the project ("nobody can tell anybody what to do"), there are areas that we are struggling with because of missing leadership. If anybody is free to do as they please, who takes care of making plans for what's in the best interest of the project? Currently, that's no one - including the Inkscape board, as it was neither installed as a steering committee or authoritative body, nor conceived to be either of those. That leads us to our current situation where we are sitting on a pile of donations without any plans on how to spend that money (e.g. paying someone to do work no volunteer wants to do), and we’ve kind of grinded ourselves to a halt discussing how to approach this. We know that we need to change the way we work, but don't know how. Do we need to restructure the board and give it authority? Do we hire a project manager/ counsel/... whatever? How do other decentralized community-driven projects deal with issues that would benefit from having some centralized structure/ organization in place?
Am 20.06.2021 um 06:52 schrieb Martin Owens doctormo@geek-2.com:
Hi Ted,
I'd like to hear from Marc, if he's available, before doing anything specific. Marc, what do you think about the proposal for committee meetings?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 19:40 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email).
Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on: <replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those.
Ted
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Hello René,
Thanks for chiming in. Your question is a little long, so I was thinking to try and shorten it. Do you feel this expresses the same intention? How do we identify / encourage / recruit people who want to do the project management aspects of funded development? Do other organizations have this as a paid position? How do other community-driven projects express and decide on an overall direction for the project?
Ted On Jun 20 2021, at 3:53 am, René de Hesselle dehesselle@icloud.com wrote:
From what I understand on how we got to this point, this would be what I'd ask the SFC.
Dear SFC, we'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on:
- While we do not want to give up on the decentralized volunteer-/community-driven
nature of the project ("nobody can tell anybody what to do"), there are areas that we are struggling with because of missing leadership. If anybody is free to do as they please, who takes care of making plans for what's in the best interest of the project? Currently, that's no one - including the Inkscape board, as it was neither installed as a steering committee or authoritative body, nor conceived to be either of those. That leads us to our current situation where we are sitting on a pile of donations without any plans on how to spend that money (e.g. paying someone to do work no volunteer wants to do), and we’ve kind of grinded ourselves to a halt discussing how to approach this. We know that we need to change the way we work, but don't know how. Do we need to restructure the board and give it authority? Do we hire a project manager/ counsel/... whatever? How do other decentralized community-driven projects deal with issues that would benefit from having some centralized structure/ organization in place?
Am 20.06.2021 um 06:52 schrieb Martin Owens doctormo@geek-2.com:
Hi Ted,
I'd like to hear from Marc, if he's available, before doing anything specific. Marc, what do you think about the proposal for committee meetings?
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 19:40 -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email).
Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on: <replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those.
Ted
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 07:40:38PM -0500, Ted Gould wrote:
Splitting into a separate thread for readability. (please don't add things to this thread)
It seems that folks want to have a meeting with the SFC to get some advice. I'm happy to facilitate that. But, I'm unsure of what advice we're looking for and what to say we want from the meeting (help me write the email). Dear SFC, We'd like to have a meeting and get your advice on: <replace this text in reply> 😄
I'm traveling next week, but I should have access to email. So, let's say on Wednesday (June 23rd) I will combine all the replies and request a meeting with the SFC based on those. Ted
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
1. Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an opportunity
to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have to proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run through the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for our meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have to proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run through the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for our meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I expect to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one, so Friday works best for me. Thanks for setting this up, Pono! -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori pono@sfconservancy.org wrote:
Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have to proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run through the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for our meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list --
inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org
To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
I've updated my vote to include Thursday. I may not be 100% better by then, but at least Doc will be able to join us. :) -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 5:29 PM C R cajhne@gmail.com wrote:
I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I expect to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one, so Friday works best for me. Thanks for setting this up, Pono! -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori < pono@sfconservancy.org> wrote:
Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have to proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run through the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for our meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list --
inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org
To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
So it looks like
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 14:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 15:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00
(UTC)
Are the best times.
Ted & Josh?
Martin,
On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 16:02 +0100, C R wrote:
I've updated my vote to include Thursday. I may not be 100% better by then, but at least Doc will be able to join us. :) -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 5:29 PM C R cajhne@gmail.com wrote:
I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I expect to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one, so Friday works best for me. Thanks for setting this up, Pono! -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori < pono@sfconservancy.org> wrote:
Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have
to
proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run
through
the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for
our
meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we
started
planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for
when
people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in
EST, let
me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's
advice for
conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on
how to
conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been
conducting
actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add
agenda
items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for
intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual
committee
meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully
developed
meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all
the
parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought
we had,
until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that
up would
be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we
need to
work through before we get to funding though, and I don't
want us
to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the
community
has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act
authoritatively as
EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape
community"
to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who
this
community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular
meeting
or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have
the
practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's
guidance will
be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the
"Inkscape
Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to
allow...
- Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one
short, for
6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no
idea who
to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and
the
inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community
to work
through items in confidence with our new regular meetings
acting as
the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work
through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion
about this
being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or
about how
"the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so
we can
start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori
wrote:
> Here's a poll for time gathering: > https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o > > And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: > https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0 > > There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice
or IRC.
> I > don't have > any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to
all who
> need/want to > attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call
link.
> > -Pono > _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list --
inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org
To unsubscribe send an email to
inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
I'm just following up because w/ Ted and I, it's now down to:
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00
Cheers, Josh
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 5:02 PM doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
So it looks like
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 14:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 15:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00(UTC)
Are the best times.
Ted & Josh?
Martin,
On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 16:02 +0100, C R wrote:
I've updated my vote to include Thursday. I may not be 100% better by then, but at least Doc will be able to join us. :) -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 5:29 PM C R cajhne@gmail.com wrote:
I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I expect to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one, so Friday works best for me. Thanks for setting this up, Pono! -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori < pono@sfconservancy.org> wrote:
Here's the poll in UTC: https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll have
to
proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've run
through
the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date for
our
meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com
wrote:
> Thanks Pono, > > I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we
started
> planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for
when
> people > will be available to meet. > > I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in
EST, let
> me > know if it's UTC or some other timezone. > > The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's
advice for
> conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on
how to
> conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been
conducting
> actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly > mislabeled > everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add
agenda
> items > to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not > appropriate > for the type of status update process that event for
intended for.
> > Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual
committee
> meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully
developed
> meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all
the
> parts of > a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought
we had,
> until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that
up would
> be > great. > > There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we
need to
> work through before we get to funding though, and I don't
want us
> to > start on further items until we've fixed the first items: > > 1. Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an > opportunity > to talk about the administration of the project and the
community
> has a > space to bring items. > 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape > community. > And this is devastating to our ability to act
authoritatively as
> EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape
community"
> to > agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who
this
> community > is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular
meeting
> or > team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have
the
> practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's
guidance will
> be > critical here. > 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the
"Inkscape
> Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to
allow...
> 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one
short, for
> 6 > months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no
idea who
> to > send ballots to. > 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about > important > discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape > community > will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and
the
> inkscape > Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community
to work
> through items in confidence with our new regular meetings
acting as
> the > backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions. > > You can see that we have quite the list of items to work
through.
> > I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion
about this
> being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a > leadership. > Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or
about how
> "the > project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee > conducts > it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so
we can
> start being effective again. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori
wrote:
> > Here's a poll for time gathering: > > https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o > > > > And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: > > https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0 > > > > There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice
or IRC.
> > I > > don't have > > any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to
all who
> > need/want to > > attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call
link.
> > > > -Pono > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- > inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list --
inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org
To unsubscribe send an email to
inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Thanks Josh,
Pono, let's do 16:00, that's noon for us here in EST.
I'll put it on the calendar, we can use our BBB here unless Pono has an alternative:
Video Link: https://digimedia1.r2.enst.fr/b/mar-9wm-vj2 Calendar: https://inkscape.org/cals/event/29/
This is a tentative agenda for tomorrow:
* The right way to run meetings; sticking to agendas, having tasks, making sure tasks get done. * Should we rotate the meeting president (this is the person that presides over the meeting, not a leadership thing) * Setting regular meeting time. The frequency of meetings, announcing, calendars, etc. * Having a secretary who has a protocol of where to put recordings, notes, transcripts and other important data so the whole community will know. (I'm interested in doing this) * How much responsibility should committee members have? How much work should be expected for this position? * And if we have time, we can practice vote: Rename "Inkscape Board" to "Inkscape Committee" in all locations.
We'll probably talk about some other stuff. But let me know if there's something urgent we should add/change in this list before tomorrow.
Thanks everyone!
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Wed, 2021-07-07 at 11:42 -0700, Josh Andler wrote:
I'm just following up because w/ Ted and I, it's now down to:
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00Cheers, Josh
On Sun, Jul 4, 2021 at 5:02 PM doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
So it looks like
Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 14:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 15:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 16:00 Thursday, July 8, 2021 - 20:00(UTC)
Are the best times.
Ted & Josh?
Martin,
On Sun, 2021-07-04 at 16:02 +0100, C R wrote:
I've updated my vote to include Thursday. I may not be 100%
better by
then, but at least Doc will be able to join us. :) -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 5:29 PM C R cajhne@gmail.com wrote:
I've added my times. I get my 2nd vax shot on Tuesday, and I
expect
to be ill for the following days like I was for the last one,
so
Friday works best for me. Thanks for setting this up, Pono! -C
On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 4:34 PM Daniel Pono Takamori < pono@sfconservancy.org> wrote:
Here's the poll in UTC:
https://framadate.org/xBJg27wbjSoOlzUk
Hopefully Tuesday-Friday next week works for people.
Thanks!
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 02:27:04PM -0400, Martin Owens wrote:
Hi Pono,
It looks like Marc isn't available at the moment, so we'll
have
to
proceed without his input/dates. And it looks like we've
run
through
the time poll we already did.
Could you set up a new poll and we'll put together a date
for
our
meeting?
Thanks and sorry for the delays.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori
wrote:
> The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying. > > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400,
doctormo@gmail.com
wrote:
> > Thanks Pono, > > > > I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we
started
> > planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense
for
when
> > people > > will be available to meet. > > > > I've filled it out with the assumption these times are
in
EST, let
> > me > > know if it's UTC or some other timezone. > > > > The goal of the request is actually to ask for the
SFC's
advice for
> > conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members
on
how to
> > conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been
conducting
> > actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates"
(horribly
> > mislabeled > > everywhere) so every time committee members tried to
add
agenda
> > items > > to discuss serious business, they would be removed as
not
> > appropriate > > for the type of status update process that event for
intended for.
> > > > Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an
actual
committee
> > meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully
developed
> > meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and
all
the
> > parts of > > a meeting that many in the project really want (and
thought
we had,
> > until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting
that
up would
> > be > > great. > > > > There is a dependency chain of administrative items
that we
need to
> > work through before we get to funding though, and I
don't
want us
> > to > > start on further items until we've fixed the first
items:
> > > > 1. Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have
an
> > opportunity > > to talk about the administration of the project and the
community
> > has a > > space to bring items. > > 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the
inkscape
> > community. > > And this is devastating to our ability to act
authoritatively as
> > EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical
"inkscape
community"
> > to > > agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who
this
> > community > > is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any
particular
meeting
> > or > > team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to
have
the
> > practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's
guidance will
> > be > > critical here. > > 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the
"Inkscape
> > Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text)
to
allow...
> > 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently
one
short, for
> > 6 > > months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have
no
idea who
> > to > > send ballots to. > > 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone
about
> > important > > discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the
Inkscape
> > community > > will get a chance to be involved in this discussions
and
the
> > inkscape > > Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the
community
to work
> > through items in confidence with our new regular
meetings
acting as
> > the > > backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions. > > > > You can see that we have quite the list of items to
work
through.
> > > > I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion
about this
> > being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts
as a
> > leadership. > > Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or
about how
> > "the > > project" makes decisions. It's just about how the
committee
> > conducts > > it's business and plugs back into the inkscape
community so
we can
> > start being effective again. > > > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > > > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori
wrote:
> > > Here's a poll for time gathering: > > > https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o > > > > > > And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: > > > https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0 > > > > > > There was some talk in the other thread about
video/voice
or IRC.
> > > I > > > don't have > > > any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible
to
all who
> > > need/want to > > > attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call
link.
> > > > > > -Pono > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- > > inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- > inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org > To unsubscribe send an email to > inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list --
inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org
To unsubscribe send an email to
inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org _______________________________________________ Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
On Jul 7 2021, at 2:45 pm, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Pono, let's do 16:00, that's noon for us here in EST.
Works for me.
This is a tentative agenda for tomorrow:
I believe that Pono is collecting items for the agenda here: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0 Ted
Actually follow up:
I noticed Marc DID respond to the time poll. Although today is still the last day where most people are available (and at UTC too)
So a new poll would be good.
Martin,
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 12:59 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
The poll is UTC, sorry for not specifying.
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 03:13:50PM -0400, doctormo@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Pono,
I was hoping to have Marc be able to speak up before we started planning times, but this works as it'll give us a sense for when people will be available to meet.
I've filled it out with the assumption these times are in EST, let me know if it's UTC or some other timezone.
The goal of the request is actually to ask for the SFC's advice for conducting meetings, to onboard/train committee members on how to conduct them. Because the Inkscape project hasn't been conducting actual meetings, it's been doing "status updates" (horribly mislabeled everywhere) so every time committee members tried to add agenda items to discuss serious business, they would be removed as not appropriate for the type of status update process that event for intended for.
Now that we know that this monthly event isn't an actual committee meeting. We have an opportunity to create a real, fully developed meeting. With a discussion agenda, voting, minutes and all the parts of a meeting that many in the project really want (and thought we had, until it turned out we didn't) and your help setting that up would be great.
There is a dependency chain of administrative items that we need to work through before we get to funding though, and I don't want us to start on further items until we've fixed the first items:
- Meetings - holding actual meetings, so people have an
opportunity to talk about the administration of the project and the community has a space to bring items. 2. Constituency - We have no idea who is in the inkscape community. And this is devastating to our ability to act authoritatively as EVERYTHING is stalled waiting for the mythical "inkscape community" to agree to things. But because we don't have a handle who this community is, we have no idea if we have a quorum in any particular meeting or team, or if we're reaching people. We need meetings to have the practical space to work out how this will work. SFC's guidance will be critical here. 3. Discuss and request a change of definition of the "Inkscape Community" with the SFC (update to the Agreement text) to allow... 4. Voting on a replacement member - We're currently one short, for 6 months we've been unable to hold a vote because we have no idea who to send ballots to. 5. Then we can start sending information to everyone about important discussions for funding. Hopefully everyone in the Inkscape community will get a chance to be involved in this discussions and the inkscape Committee can act as gentle stewards allowing the community to work through items in confidence with our new regular meetings acting as the backbone (and contextual location) for the discussions.
You can see that we have quite the list of items to work through.
I believe there may be some confusion in the discussion about this being a change in the way the Inkscape Committee acts as a leadership. Or about funding. This request is not about funding, or about how "the project" makes decisions. It's just about how the committee conducts it's business and plugs back into the inkscape community so we can start being effective again.
Best Regards, Martin Owens
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 11:19 -0700, Daniel Pono Takamori wrote:
Here's a poll for time gathering: https://framadate.org/UsFcEuWf2duojI4o
And here's a pad I made with a preliminary agenda: https://pad.sfconservancy.org/p/Jg-a7AGFdHHpMVpICGf0
There was some talk in the other thread about video/voice or IRC. I don't have any opinion and want to make the meeting accessible to all who need/want to attend, so let me know if I should setup a video call link.
-Pono
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
Inkscape Board of Directors mailing list -- inkscape-board@lists.inkscape.org To unsubscribe send an email to inkscape-board-leave@lists.inkscape.org
participants (7)
-
C R -
Daniel Pono Takamori -
doctormoï¼ gmail.com -
Josh Andler -
Martin Owens -
René de Hesselle -
Ted Gould