5:31 p.m.
And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open font.
The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by
downloading it here:
(includes font and ofl license files).
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
-C
12:55 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, C R wrote:
And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
I guess I missed all the excitement. But does it have glyphs for
anything other than Latin and extended Latin?
Alex
4:13 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
It seems to have Latin-1 coverage only. It doesn't have Polish letters
except ó and Ó (missing: ĄĆĘŁŃŚŻŹ ąćęłńśźż), Cyrillic, or Greek. It
does have ß, ™, æ, œ, ð, þ, §, ½, €, ¢, «, », ×, ÷ and a few other
glyphs.
The font was made via a Kickstarter campaign and it seems it doesn't
have any "official" home, so I'm not sure how these glyphs could be
added. On the other hand, at least it doesn't have a nonsensical
cursive glyph for ł.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
2015-10-01 12:55 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, C R wrote:
> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
I guess I missed all the excitement. But does it have glyphs for
anything other than Latin and extended Latin?
Alex
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New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
Before we all worry too much about specific details of the font, we
should probably be clear on how we want to use it first:
1.) Is the trademarked slogan supposed to be translated at all?
2.) Is the font supposed to be used for anything else than for the
slogan "Draw freely." ?
ad 1.)To my understanding, any translation will loose its 'trademark'
property (not sure, though). Translating the web site for German, I
never considered to translate the trademarked slogan... (only in
parentheses, as an explanation - it would have sounded off, anyway, to
me).
The words can be understood with even the most basic set of English
vocabulary. ('Draw' and 'free' are among the first words students
learn at school.) I personnally don't see a need to translate it, and
would rather like to keep the trademark / authenticity.
ad 2.) For the question about how the font was planned to be used -
CR, did you plan anything for it? Or was this just intended for the
'Logo' portion?
Maren
Am 01.10.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Krzysztof Kosiński:
It seems to have Latin-1 coverage only. It doesn't have Polish
letters except ó and Ó (missing: ĄĆĘŁŃŚŻŹ ąćęłńśźż), Cyrillic, or
Greek. It does have ß, ™, æ, œ, ð, þ, §, ½, €, ¢, «, », ×, ÷ and a
few other glyphs.
The font was made via a Kickstarter campaign and it seems it
doesn't have any "official" home, so I'm not sure how these glyphs
could be added. On the other hand, at least it doesn't have a
nonsensical cursive glyph for ł.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
2015-10-01 12:55 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine
<alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, C R wrote:
>> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
>
> I guess I missed all the excitement. But does it have glyphs for
> anything other than Latin and extended Latin?
>
> Alex
>
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2015-10-01 16:33 GMT+02:00 Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...>:
Before we all worry too much about specific details of the font, we
should probably be clear on how we want to use it first:
Just to be clear, I was not criticizing the choice of font, I was just
providing information. The Polish translation of the slogan that I
have in mind wouldn't use any of these letters.
1.) Is the trademarked slogan supposed to be translated at all?
2.) Is the font supposed to be used for anything else than for the
slogan "Draw freely." ?
ad 1.)To my understanding, any translation will loose its 'trademark'
property (not sure, though). Translating the web site for German, I
never considered to translate the trademarked slogan... (only in
parentheses, as an explanation - it would have sounded off, anyway, to
me).
There is a file in source control with a Russian version of the
slogan, Рисуй свободно.
The words can be understood with even the most basic set of English
vocabulary. ('Draw' and 'free' are among the first words students
learn at school.) I personnally don't see a need to translate it, and
would rather like to keep the trademark / authenticity.
It depends on the language / culture. A non-English slogan may
resonate better with the target audience, even if it doesn't have
trademark protection.
Regards, Krzysztof
6:06 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 8:19 AM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...1063....>
wrote:
2015-10-01 16:33 GMT+02:00 Maren Hachmann <maren@...3165...>:
> Before we all worry too much about specific details of the font, we
> should probably be clear on how we want to use it first:
Just to be clear, I was not criticizing the choice of font, I was just
providing information. The Polish translation of the slogan that I
have in mind wouldn't use any of these letters.
This is of concern to me. I thought glyph coverage was factored in before
putting fonts up for vote. I incorrectly assumed that the fonts were vetted
rather than just thrown in an available fonts pool.
> 1.) Is the trademarked slogan supposed to be translated at all?
> 2.) Is the font supposed to be used for anything else than for the
> slogan "Draw freely." ?
>
> ad 1.)To my understanding, any translation will loose its 'trademark'
> property (not sure, though). Translating the web site for German, I
> never considered to translate the trademarked slogan... (only in
> parentheses, as an explanation - it would have sounded off, anyway, to
> me).
There is a file in source control with a Russian version of the
slogan, Рисуй свободно.
Here is an image which shows from the subversion history it was not only
Russian... http://imgur.com/HCHsIDZ
> The words can be understood with even the most basic set of
English
> vocabulary. ('Draw' and 'free' are among the first words students
> learn at school.) I personnally don't see a need to translate it, and
> would rather like to keep the trademark / authenticity.
It depends on the language / culture. A non-English slogan may
resonate better with the target audience, even if it doesn't have
trademark protection.
Agreed.
Cheers,
Josh
7:10 p.m.
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On 1 October 2015 at 10:06, Josh Andler <scislac@...400...> wrote:
This is of concern to me. I thought glyph coverage was factored in
before
putting fonts up for vote. I incorrectly assumed that the fonts were vetted
rather than just thrown in an available fonts pool.
I may be able to get the font expanded to support more scripts next year,
but it would likely be 6-9 months from now until that work would be
completed.
11:16 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 04:33:12PM +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
Before we all worry too much about specific details of the font, we
should probably be clear on how we want to use it first:
1.) Is the trademarked slogan supposed to be translated at all?
In our trademark policy the only reference to translation is in the
context of the software itself (so e.g. a German translation of
Inkscape's UI can still be described as Inkscape™.
https://inkscape.org/en/about/trademark-policy/
The policy specifies that the slogan is trademarked, but does not
address whether translations of the trademark would be covered too. My
non-lawyerly guess would be that they are not. Fortunately, we do have
a way to ask for clarification from the more lawyerly types - email to
trademark@...3279...
It does not specifically appear we are *prohibited* from translating the
slogan (which would be silly). But just that (I guess) it wouldn't be
protected as a trademark. I suspect that if we feel that is important,
we could look into registering it in other countries/languages. I'd
suspect there'd be some fee involved.
2.) Is the font supposed to be used for anything else than for the
slogan "Draw freely." ?
ad 1.)To my understanding, any translation will loose its 'trademark'
property (not sure, though). Translating the web site for German, I
never considered to translate the trademarked slogan... (only in
parentheses, as an explanation - it would have sounded off, anyway, to
me).
The words can be understood with even the most basic set of English
vocabulary. ('Draw' and 'free' are among the first words students
learn at school.) I personnally don't see a need to translate it, and
would rather like to keep the trademark / authenticity.
ad 2.) For the question about how the font was planned to be used -
CR, did you plan anything for it? Or was this just intended for the
'Logo' portion?
Maren
Am 01.10.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Krzysztof Kosiński:
> It seems to have Latin-1 coverage only. It doesn't have Polish
> letters except ó and Ó (missing: ĄĆĘŁŃŚŻŹ ąćęłńśźż), Cyrillic, or
> Greek. It does have ß, ™, æ, œ, ð, þ, §, ½, €, ¢, «, », ×, ÷ and a
> few other glyphs.
>
> The font was made via a Kickstarter campaign and it seems it
> doesn't have any "official" home, so I'm not sure how these
glyphs
> could be added. On the other hand, at least it doesn't have a
> nonsensical cursive glyph for ł.
> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
>
> 2015-10-01 12:55 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine
> <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, C R wrote:
>>> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
>>
>> I guess I missed all the excitement. But does it have glyphs for
>> anything other than Latin and extended Latin?
>>
>> Alex
>>
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New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
Greetings, all. I have updated the font to include ~150 more latin
characters to fill most of the gaps.
Something a bit disturbing, contained in this font is the message:
Copyright (c) 2012 Sabrina Mariela Lopez (typesenses@...3280...), with
Reserved Font Name "Euphoria Script"
Makes no mention of the license it's supposed to be within the font it's
self. I will have to do more digging to ensure this font is editable as we
have assumed.
I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if someone
can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this chart
fairly correct? :
https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
To test the extended version of the font with extended character set, it
can be downloaded here:
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
Please do let me know what you think, or any errors I may have made.
Thanks.
-C
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 01, 2015 at 04:33:12PM +0200, Maren Hachmann wrote:
> Before we all worry too much about specific details of the font, we
> should probably be clear on how we want to use it first:
>
> 1.) Is the trademarked slogan supposed to be translated at all?
In our trademark policy the only reference to translation is in the
context of the software itself (so e.g. a German translation of
Inkscape's UI can still be described as Inkscape™.
https://inkscape.org/en/about/trademark-policy/
The policy specifies that the slogan is trademarked, but does not
address whether translations of the trademark would be covered too. My
non-lawyerly guess would be that they are not. Fortunately, we do have
a way to ask for clarification from the more lawyerly types - email to
trademark@...3279...
It does not specifically appear we are *prohibited* from translating the
slogan (which would be silly). But just that (I guess) it wouldn't be
protected as a trademark. I suspect that if we feel that is important,
we could look into registering it in other countries/languages. I'd
suspect there'd be some fee involved.
> 2.) Is the font supposed to be used for anything else than for the
> slogan "Draw freely." ?
>
> ad 1.)To my understanding, any translation will loose its 'trademark'
> property (not sure, though). Translating the web site for German, I
> never considered to translate the trademarked slogan... (only in
> parentheses, as an explanation - it would have sounded off, anyway, to
> me).
> The words can be understood with even the most basic set of English
> vocabulary. ('Draw' and 'free' are among the first words students
> learn at school.) I personnally don't see a need to translate it, and
> would rather like to keep the trademark / authenticity.
>
> ad 2.) For the question about how the font was planned to be used -
> CR, did you plan anything for it? Or was this just intended for the
> 'Logo' portion?
>
> Maren
>
> Am 01.10.2015 um 16:13 schrieb Krzysztof Kosiński:
> > It seems to have Latin-1 coverage only. It doesn't have Polish
> > letters except ó and Ó (missing: ĄĆĘŁŃŚŻŹ ąćęłńśźż), Cyrillic, or
> > Greek. It does have ß, ™, æ, œ, ð, þ, §, ½, €, ¢, «, », ×, ÷ and a
> > few other glyphs.
> >
> > The font was made via a Kickstarter campaign and it seems it
> > doesn't have any "official" home, so I'm not sure how these
glyphs
> > could be added. On the other hand, at least it doesn't have a
> > nonsensical cursive glyph for ł.
> > http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
> >
> > 2015-10-01 12:55 GMT+02:00 Alexandre Prokoudine
> > <alexandre.prokoudine@...400...>:
> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:31 PM, C R wrote:
> >>> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
> >>
> >> I guess I missed all the excitement. But does it have glyphs for
> >> anything other than Latin and extended Latin?
> >>
> >> Alex
> >>
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New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
2015-10-05 0:03 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if
someone
can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this chart
fairly correct? :
https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
Yes, this looks correct. Note that the joins between а, е, etc. and л,
я and м are different than in Latin cursive script - the 'hook'
upwards on the left is preserved. I think Alexandre can provide a
sample.
To test the extended version of the font with extended character set,
it can
be downloaded here:
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
- The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should have the
stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
through the middle like the pound sign.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
- Ą, ą, Ę, ę could also be improved. The extra stroke between the
letter and the hook should not be there, since those are not cedillas.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
Best regards, Krzysztof
12:37 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
Thanks. I will make those improvements.
-C
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...972.....>
wrote:
2015-10-05 0:03 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if someone
> can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
> resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this chart
> fairly correct? :
>
https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
Yes, this looks correct. Note that the joins between а, е, etc. and л,
я and м are different than in Latin cursive script - the 'hook'
upwards on the left is preserved. I think Alexandre can provide a
sample.
> To test the extended version of the font with extended character set, it
can
> be downloaded here:
>
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
- The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should have the
stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
through the middle like the pound sign.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
- Ą, ą, Ę, ę could also be improved. The extra stroke between the
letter and the hook should not be there, since those are not cedillas.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
Best regards, Krzysztof
5:58 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
These are my proposed shapes for ł, ą and ę. They may need some
tweaking to fit with the rest of the font, since I'm not a good type
designer.
The placement of ogonek on Ą is somewhat unorthodox, but it would be
natural to write this way by hand, and I think everyone will recognize
it. The loop in Ę may be a little too big. That being said, ą and ę
never occur at the start of a word, so Ą and Ę would only ever occur
in all-caps words, something we would absolutely never do in our
branding.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-05 12:37 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
Thanks. I will make those improvements.
-C
On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...847...0...>
wrote:
>
> 2015-10-05 0:03 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> > I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if
> > someone
> > can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
> > resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this
> > chart
> > fairly correct? :
> >
> > https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
>
> Yes, this looks correct. Note that the joins between а, е, etc. and л,
> я and м are different than in Latin cursive script - the 'hook'
> upwards on the left is preserved. I think Alexandre can provide a
> sample.
>
> > To test the extended version of the font with extended character set, it
> > can
> > be downloaded here:
> >
> > http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
>
> - The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should have
the
> stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
> through the middle like the pound sign.
> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
>
> - Ą, ą, Ę, ę could also be improved. The extra stroke between the
> letter and the hook should not be there, since those are not cedillas.
> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
>
> Best regards, Krzysztof
6:26 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
These are my proposed shapes for ł, ą and ę. They may need some
tweaking to fit with the rest of the font, since I'm not a good type
designer.
Thanks Krzysztof, I like the ogoneks on the a, e, and E,
the A however, I'd prefer to stick with traditional ogonek off the right
leg/foot of the A, in accordance with:
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
I'll work up an alternative for this one.
Thanks for your help!
-C
The placement of ogonek on Ą is somewhat unorthodox, but it would be
natural to write this way by hand, and I think everyone will recognize
it. The loop in Ę may be a little too big. That being said, ą and ę
never occur at the start of a word, so Ą and Ę would only ever occur
in all-caps words, something we would absolutely never do in our
branding.
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-05 12:37 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> Thanks. I will make those improvements.
> -C
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...360...400...
>
> wrote:
>>
>> 2015-10-05 0:03 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
>> > I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if
>> > someone
>> > can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
>> > resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this
>> > chart
>> > fairly correct? :
>> >
>> >
https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
>>
>> Yes, this looks correct. Note that the joins between а, е, etc. and л,
>> я and м are different than in Latin cursive script - the 'hook'
>> upwards on the left is preserved. I think Alexandre can provide a
>> sample.
>>
>> > To test the extended version of the font with extended character set,
it
>> > can
>> > be downloaded here:
>> >
>> >
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
>>
>> - The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should
have the
>> stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
>> through the middle like the pound sign.
>> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
>>
>> - Ą, ą, Ę, ę could also be improved. The extra stroke between the
>> letter and the hook should not be there, since those are not cedillas.
>> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
>>
>> Best regards, Krzysztof
>
>
9:01 p.m.
New subject: Thanks for your votes! We have our new "Draw Freely" font!
Okay, made an alternative set. If people like these samples, I'll make the
changes to all other ogonek-containing characters.
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/samples/AEae.png
I've used the guidelines I've found for doing so. Euphoria Script is a
hybrid font anyway, but I'd like readability first, as I think the base
characters contain enough visual flare to keep with the theme.
Thoughts?
-C
On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 5:26 PM, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
These are my proposed shapes for ł, ą and ę. They may need some
> tweaking to fit with the rest of the font, since I'm not a good type
> designer.
>
Thanks Krzysztof, I like the ogoneks on the a, e, and E,
the A however, I'd prefer to stick with traditional ogonek off the right
leg/foot of the A, in accordance with:
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
I'll work up an alternative for this one.
Thanks for your help!
-C
> The placement of ogonek on Ą is somewhat unorthodox, but it would be
> natural to write this way by hand, and I think everyone will recognize
> it. The loop in Ę may be a little too big. That being said, ą and ę
> never occur at the start of a word, so Ą and Ę would only ever occur
> in all-caps words, something we would absolutely never do in our
> branding.
>
> Best regards, Krzysztof
>
> 2015-10-05 12:37 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> > Thanks. I will make those improvements.
> > -C
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Krzysztof Kosiński <
> tweenk.pl@...400...>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> 2015-10-05 0:03 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> >> > I have not added any Russian characters, however I am happy to if
> >> > someone
> >> > can confirm the cursive version of Russian characters bear any at all
> >> > resemblence to the english cursive characters. For example, is this
> >> > chart
> >> > fairly correct? :
> >> >
> >> >
> https://russianreport.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/cyrillic-alphabet-chart...
> >>
> >> Yes, this looks correct. Note that the joins between а, е, etc. and л,
> >> я and м are different than in Latin cursive script - the 'hook'
> >> upwards on the left is preserved. I think Alexandre can provide a
> >> sample.
> >>
> >> > To test the extended version of the font with extended character
> set, it
> >> > can
> >> > be downloaded here:
> >> >
> >> >
> http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended.zip
> >>
> >> - The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should
have the
> >> stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
> >> through the middle like the pound sign.
> >> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
> >>
> >> - Ą, ą, Ę, ę could also be improved. The extra stroke between the
> >> letter and the hook should not be there, since those are not cedillas.
> >> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/ogonek.html
> >>
> >> Best regards, Krzysztof
> >
> >
>
1:59 p.m.
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- The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should have the
stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
through the middle like the pound sign.
http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
According to that link, the bars are slanted, not horizontal...
So the advice to make it like the pound sign goes against what the
instructions say:
"This letter should *not* be drawn like the British pound sign!"
Also, all samples of the ł symbol have the slant through the middle, not
the top, including all the samples on that page.
So.. are they still wrong? Are you sure? :)
Thanks for the clarification.
-C
6:21 p.m.
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2015-10-05 13:59 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
> - The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect.
The ł should have the
> stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
> through the middle like the pound sign.
> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
According to that link, the bars are slanted, not horizontal...
So the advice to make it like the pound sign goes against what the
instructions say:
"This letter should not be drawn like the British pound sign!"
This applies to letters in "typewritten" fonts. The cursive form of Ł
looks very much like a pound sign.
Also, all samples of the ł symbol have the slant through the middle,
not the
top, including all the samples on that page.
ł looks different in cursive / script fonts - the stroke is horizontal
and on top. Be sure to check out the examples further down the page.
Furthermore, almost all publicly available cursive fonts have an
invalid glyph for ł, even some commercial ones. Correct cursive glyphs
can be found e.g. in the font "Elementarz" available on dafont.com
(though note that the stroke in ł in that font could be a little
longer).
http://www.dafont.com/search.php?q=elementarz&text=%26%23321%3B%26%23...
Best regards, Krzysztof
6:31 p.m.
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Other fonts with correct ł glyphs:
http://www.dafont.com/odstemplik.font?text=%26%23321%3B%26%23322%3B
http://www.dafont.com/promocyja.font?text=%26%23321%3B%26%23322%3B
These are apparently the only two fonts in the "Calligraphy" category
on the site out of ~330 that have correct glyphs. This is probably the
most misdesigned letter ever. :(
Best regards, Krzysztof
2015-10-05 18:21 GMT+02:00 Krzysztof Kosiński <tweenk.pl@...400...>:
2015-10-05 13:59 GMT+02:00 C R <cajhne@...400...>:
>> - The glyphs for "ł" and "Ł" are incorrect. The ł should have
the
>> stroke on top of the letter, the Ł should have a horizontal stroke
>> through the middle like the pound sign.
>> http://www.twardoch.com/download/polishhowto/stroke.html
>
>
> According to that link, the bars are slanted, not horizontal...
> So the advice to make it like the pound sign goes against what the
> instructions say:
> "This letter should not be drawn like the British pound sign!"
This applies to letters in "typewritten" fonts. The cursive form of Ł
looks very much like a pound sign.
> Also, all samples of the ł symbol have the slant through the middle, not the
> top, including all the samples on that page.
ł looks different in cursive / script fonts - the stroke is horizontal
and on top. Be sure to check out the examples further down the page.
Furthermore, almost all publicly available cursive fonts have an
invalid glyph for ł, even some commercial ones. Correct cursive glyphs
can be found e.g. in the font "Elementarz" available on dafont.com
(though note that the stroke in ł in that font could be a little
longer).
http://www.dafont.com/search.php?q=elementarz&text=%26%23321%3B%26%23...
Best regards, Krzysztof
4:56 p.m.
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On 4 October 2015 at 18:03, C R <cajhne@...400...> wrote:
Something a bit disturbing, contained in this font is the message:
Copyright (c) 2012 Sabrina Mariela Lopez (typesenses@...3280...), with
Reserved Font Name "Euphoria Script"
Makes no mention of the license it's supposed to be within the font it's
self. I will have to do more digging to ensure this font is editable as we
have assumed.
The license is noted in the NAME ID 13 and 14, it is the open font license;
and the project was announced as being licensed under the OFL in
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/typesenses/font-design-euphoria-scri...
:)
5:04 p.m.
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On Tue, 2015-10-06 at 10:56 -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
The license is noted in the NAME ID 13 and 14, it is the open font
license; and the project was announced as being licensed under the OFL
in
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/typesenses/font-design-euphoria-scri... :)
The description names you as the conspirator :-D that's fun. It's really
great when advocation has such positive effects in the wider free
culture movement.
And now we get to use it on the website and maybe improve it too.
Martin,
5:51 p.m.
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And now we get to use it on the website and maybe improve it too.
Which would be the entire point. :)
Will keep you informed of progress. Currently trying to do Russian
calligraphy justice. If I do it right, you shouldn't notice that it was
made as a tertiary character set by a different artist.
Apparently I need to put my name and details in the log file. I've put that
it's for the inkscape project (inkscape.org) as well, so hopefully we can
snowball the exposure effect. :)
-C
11:24 p.m.
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Hi Friends,
I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest submission,
and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message (below)
doesn't work (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip).
I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when trying the
tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we find this
font?
Thanks,
brynn
_______________________________________________________
From: C R
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our new
"DrawFreely" font!
And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open font.
The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by downloading
it here:
(includes font and ofl license files).
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
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Hi Brynn,
Maybe here:
https://media.inkscape.org/static/fonts/euphoriascript-regular.ttf
or there:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape-webadmin/inkscape-web/inkscape-web/...
You’re welcome,
Sylvain
Le 31/10/2016 à 23:24, Brynn a écrit :
Hi Friends,
I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest submission,
and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message (below)
doesn't work (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip).
I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when trying the
tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we find this
font?
Thanks,
brynn
_______________________________________________________
From: C R
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our new
"DrawFreely" font!
And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open font.
The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by downloading
it here:
(includes font and ofl license files).
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
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Thanks, I've got it now :-)
brynn
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From: "Sylvain Chiron" <chironsylvain@...3370...>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:34 PM
To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>
Cc: <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ....new "DrawFreely" font! / about screen
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Hi Brynn,
Maybe here:
https://media.inkscape.org/static/fonts/euphoriascript-regular.ttf
or there:
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape-webadmin/inkscape-web/inkscape-web/...
You’re welcome,
Sylvain
Le 31/10/2016 à 23:24, Brynn a écrit :
> Hi Friends,
> I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest submission,
> and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message (below)
> doesn't work
> (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip).
> I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when trying the
> tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we find this
> font?
>
> Thanks,
> brynn
>
> _______________________________________________________
>
> From: C R
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
> To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
> Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our new
> "DrawFreely" font!
>
>
> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
> Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open font.
>
>
> The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
>
>
> You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by
> downloading
> it here:
> (includes font and ofl license files).
>
>
> http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
>
>
>
> Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
>
>
> -C
>
>
>
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>
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Here's a link to the most recent version.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wueqtitta6t3udn/EuphoriaScript-Regular_extended...
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
Thanks, I've got it now :-)
brynn
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From: "Sylvain Chiron" <chironsylvain@...3370...>
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:34 PM
To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>
Cc: <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ....new "DrawFreely" font! / about screen
contest 0.92
> Hi Brynn,
>
> Maybe here:
> https://media.inkscape.org/static/fonts/euphoriascript-regular.ttf
> or there:
>
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape-webadmin/inkscape-web/inkscape-web/...
>
> You’re welcome,
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 31/10/2016 à 23:24, Brynn a écrit :
>> Hi Friends,
>> I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest submission,
>> and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message (below)
>> doesn't work
>> (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip).
>> I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when trying the
>> tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we find this
>> font?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> brynn
>>
>> _______________________________________________________
>>
>> From: C R
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
>> To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
>> Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our new
>> "DrawFreely" font!
>>
>>
>> And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
>> Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open font.
>>
>>
>> The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
>>
>>
>> You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by
>> downloading
>> it here:
>> (includes font and ofl license files).
>>
>>
>> http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
>>
>>
>>
>> Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
>>
>>
>> -C
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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On Wed, 2016-11-02 at 18:00 +0000, C R wrote:
Here's a link to the most recent version.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wueqtitta6t3udn/EuphoriaScript-Regular_exte
nded.otf.zip?dl=1
Can you upload to your inkscape.org gallery? We can keep these things
together as resources there.
Thanks CR.
Martin,
8:38 p.m.
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Updated the branding folder in trunk and 0.92.x
Cheers, Jabier.
On Wed, 2016-11-02 at 18:00 +0000, C R wrote:
Here's a link to the most recent version.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wueqtitta6t3udn/EuphoriaScript-Regular_exte
nded.otf.zip?dl=1
On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote:
> Thanks, I've got it now :-)
>
> brynn
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sylvain Chiron" <chironsylvain@...3370...>
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 4:34 PM
> To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...>
> Cc: <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] ....new "DrawFreely" font! / about
> screen
> contest 0.92
>
> > Hi Brynn,
> >
> > Maybe here:
> > https://media.inkscape.org/static/fonts/euphoriascript-regular.tt
> > f
> > or there:
> > http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape-webadmin/inkscape-web/inksc
> > ape-web/files/head:/inkscape/static/fonts/
> >
> > You’re welcome,
> >
> > Sylvain
> >
> > Le 31/10/2016 à 23:24, Brynn a écrit :
> > > Hi Friends,
> > > I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest
> > > submission,
> > > and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message
> > > (below)
> > > doesn't work
> > > (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip).
> > > I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when
> > > trying the
> > > tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we
> > > find this
> > > font?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > brynn
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________________
> > >
> > > From: C R
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
> > > To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
> > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our
> > > new
> > > "DrawFreely" font!
> > >
> > >
> > > And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
> > > Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new
> > > open font.
> > >
> > >
> > > The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant
> > > graphics.
> > >
> > >
> > > You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials
> > > by
> > > downloading
> > > it here:
> > > (includes font and ofl license files).
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
> > >
> > >
> > > -C
> > >
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Here are:
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Euphoria+Script
Cheers, Jabier.
On Mon, 2016-10-31 at 16:24 -0600, Brynn wrote:
Hi Friends,
I'm working on a (probably feeble) about page contest
submission,
and I wanted to use the new font. But the link in this message
(below)
doesn't work (http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_scrip
t.zip).
I got a 404 not found, as well as 403 forbidden (when trying
the
tld). For all of those who may be participating, where can we find
this
font?
Thanks,
brynn
_______________________________________________________
From: C R
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 9:31 AM
To: inkscape-devel ; Inkscape User Community
Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Thanks for your votes! We have our new
"DrawFreely" font!
And the winner (by quite a bit, actually) is Euphoria Script!
Thanks to everyone for the votes and helping us choose a new open
font.
The new font will be deployed to the website and relevant graphics.
You can start using it now in your inkscape-related materials by
downloading
it here:
(includes font and ofl license files).
http://www.opendesignstudio.org/inkscape/euphoria_script.zip
Have fun, and thanks again for the help!
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