December 2003 - Inkscape Devel

Re: optimal coarse and fine grained movement (was: spiral???)
by bulia byak 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

>>The 10 multiplier may be made configurable, but I don't see much sense in >>that. It's like coins: you can pay any amount if you have 10-cent and >>1-cent coins. > >This is an interesting question, clearly only 1 cent is required, but if >you are allowed two coins, what is the best denominations? Looking at: >http://www.slacy.com/coins/ Interesting, and it confirms my intuitive feeling: 1 and 10 are indeed the best pair of coins for amounts between 0 and 100 (I think it is safe to assume that larger amounts won't be "paid" by arrow keys, or will be "paid" with alt-arrows in zoom-out which will give larger steps). _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 19 Dec '03

19 Dec '03

>Actually, it indicates a problem. I was also not aware of the geometric >spiral option until peter pointed it out to me :) To me it suggests that >this functionality needs to be made more visible. It will be made more visible when I (or anyone else, volunteers welcome!) have time to move the contents of the Tool Options dialog to the secondary toolbar at the top of the window. As for using node editor for tweaking shapes, now it's hinted by the default statusbar messages which say "... Use node editor to {round corners|make an arc or segment|edit the star shape|edit the spiral}" for the four shape tools. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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[Fwd: Cron <gouldtj@...75...> /home/users/g/go/gouldtj/update.dox.sh]
by Ted Gould 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Here are some warnings that doxygen gave me. I'll fix the module.cpp one. The inkscape-stock.h file seems to have only 141 lines... --Ted -----Forwarded Message----- > /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/inkscape/src/inkscape-stock.h:143: Warning: Missing //@} > /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/inkscape/src/module.cpp:3: Warning: the name `module.c' supplied as the second argument in the \file statement is not an input file > /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/inkscape/src/geom.h:101: Warning: member `Normalize' of class `Point' cannot be found > /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/inkscape/src/widgets/sp-color-notebook.cpp:389: Warning: member `getCurrentSelector' of class `ColorNotebook' cannot be found

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debian packages for inkscape 0.36
by Wolfram Quester 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Hi alltogether! I prepared inkscape packages for the debian distribution. The source-packages and one for sparc can be downloaded from http://honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de/~wolfi/inkscape But I've seen that there are debian packages for i386 and powerpc available from sourceforge. Do you want me to upload them in the debian unstable distribution? Best regards, Wolfi

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Color selector changes
by Jon A.Cruz 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

I've just put in a change to all the color selector files to switch them to C++. Things seem to be working better now due to centralizing code and event cleanup. I'm working through the entered bugs, but keep an eye out if anything seems strange, or has compile problems.

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per-view actions
by MenTaLguY 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

I've finished the first stage of making actions per-view instead of global. Note that to accomplish this I've ended up changing the API for registering new verbs. More changes are forthcoming. (if perhaps not tonight becaues I'm drop-deadtired) -mental

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spiral tool
by MenTaLguY 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Sorry for the fluster about the spiral tool. Not one of my better decisions, though I did intend to notify the mailing list, I've been under a lot of pressure the past few days and I'm getting a bit sloppy... -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] xml:space problem
by bulia byak 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>> > - when serializing svg, make sure there is no whitespace under <text> >> >>Either of these would break XML compliance. > >Disagree on the last one. Where's the incompliance? The user certainly did >not _ask_ us to insert whitespace text nodes between the tspans, and by not >inserting them we won't break any standard. There's no standard saying XML >tags must be on separate lines :) So I like this option most, but >unfortunately it requires digging deep into the parsing and serializing >code, which I'm frankly afraid to do. Well, here's a lesson for me: never be afraid of anything too early :) It turned out to be very simple. A patched repr-io is committed, works for me, please test. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

>Now, remember that the principle in action here is "patch first, discuss >later". Mental patched, now we're discussing. ;-) > >We had another case like this earlier this week when some status bar >functions were added that assumed use of global variables. The initial >patch to the code appalled another developer, but by discussing it >subsequently, good solutions were worked out. That might be a good counterpoint, if not for one difference: you don't need anyone's testing when you remove something, because there's nothing to test. We don't need to try spiral-less Inkscape to discuss whether the spiral was good or bad. In my case, I didn't remove anything, just added. And I raised the point on the list and in Wiki first, and committed my solution for testing later. Where I initially planned to remove something (namely the status_set signal), I did not go on until I heard from others on this change. >So while I do agree that discussion is *very* important, and in this >case agree with you that the removal of the spiral should have been >mentioned on the list, I would disagree that feature decisions _must_ be >discussed before changes are made. OK, what about a rule: feature DELETIONS (especially without a substitute) must be discussed on the list first. In the rest, I agree with you. >released version, so it was guaranteed that everyone would either notice >it missing and start a discussion, or not notice it and prove it was >unnecessary. Well, I don't have the habit of inspecting the entire program every day to see if anything's missing :) So "not noticing" is by no means an indication that it's not necessary. Again, let's use a simple rule: do what you want, except _don't remove_ anything without discussing first. Sorry for "freaking out". Hopefully we'll be able to avoid such collisions in the future. _________________________________________________________________ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger � learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] spiral???
by bulia byak 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>The moment we start thinking about the mythical "user out there" we are >going to make stupid decisions. "Scratch your itch," yes. But don't stop others from scratching their itches! This is what you do by removing other people's features. >The reality is that spirals don't seem to get used as they are too >specialised - to test this theory we should remove the icon from the tool >bar and see who screams :). I do. And seriously, don't we have lots of other important work to do, instead of testing each other's screaming reflexes? If you have a better tool, I would love to see it. But removing something first is not a good way to pique my interest :) _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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