February 2017 - Inkscape Devel

win32 build working again
by Bob Jamison 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

The win32 build, which was broken for the weekend, is working again. I just made a "manual autobuild" again, so that we can see how it looks on Windows: http://troi.titan-aeu.com/~rjamison/inkscape/builds/ Bob

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Inkscape Board Meeting
by Bryce Harrington 01 Jun '17

01 Jun '17

== Board Meeting == We'll hold another board meeting this Friday, March 3rd at noon Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members of the community are welcome to participate. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings Agenda: + Sponsorship Levels + Hackfests: Portland, Paris + Merchandise sales + Inkscape gitlab + Other

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Roadmap for Inkscape 0.93 on Windows - GTK3, devlibs, MSYS2 and support for Windows XP
by Eduard Braun 13 Mar '17

13 Mar '17

Hi all, one of the biggest changes in current trunk is the switch to gtk3. As some of you already know this step will be a hard one on Windows as we have to rely on pre-built development libraries to be able to compile Inkscape: * devlibs currently has no support for gtk3 at all. (There's an experimental branch on which jazzynico was working, but as far as I know he was never able to complete it due to build issues) * devlibs64 includes gtk3 3.19.6 but IMHO it's pretty broken and would require *a lot* of work to get anywhere near being usable As a result we're currently not able to build Inkscape for 32-bit Windows at all (bug 1609954 [1]) and builds with devlibs64 are nowhere close to be usable. *Therefore I want to propose to switch to MSYS2 for compiling Inkscape trunk on Windows!* MSYS2 is a rewrite of MSYS including all the necessary build tools to compile native applications for Windows using mingw-w64 (see official homepage [2] for details). Furthermore it includes the package manager "pacman" (users of Arch Linux will know it) which allows to conveniently install and upgrade packages. The switch would have a *lot* of advantages: * Easier setup of the build system as gcc and all necessary build tools and libraries are included in MSYS2 (currently we require to download gcc + devlibs + cmake separately and procedure varies widely between 32-bit and 64-bit builds) * A solid set of constantly updated libraries (see [3]). * Packages are usually built with a small set of patches to fix compatibility errors on Windows that would otherwise require hours to figure out when building libraries from scratch. * An active developer community. Questions are answered swiftly, bugs in the provided libraries can usually be figured out jointly. * Creating new packages (if it should ever be required) or recompiling existing packages (i.e. to test a fix) is extremely easy. (I recently added libvisio [4] which was the only dependency of Inkscape not yet provided) * 32-bit and 64-bit builds are equivalent. The exact same library versions are used and MSYS2 includes build environments for both that co-exist by default I'm already successfully building current trunk with MSYS2 without any issues at all (there are no code changes needed, only environment variables have to be adjusted and the CMake install target has to be adjusted to pick up the correct libraries). If you're interested you can find the latest builds at [5] (the most obvious change is the Adwaita theme that is now used by gtk3 by default but doesn't look very native. However that's something we can customize going forward as desired). There's one big downside: My builds currently don't work on Windows XP. However I'm afraid this has nothing to do with MSYS2. Many libraries have started to drop support for Windows XP, most importantly gtk3 does not support it after 3.16 [6]. This means we have two possibilites: * Drop support for Windows XP in Inkscape 0.93 * Try our best to somehow (currently I have no idea how!) continue support for Windows XP. This would most likely require us to keep building, maintaining and distributing our own development libraries (however I guess even here MSYS2 would be a huge help). While achieving this might sound favourable keep in mind that it would require us to limit ourselves to old library versions on purpose with all the inevitable downsides like unfixed bugs and growing number of incompatibilities in newer OSs. I thought about this for some time now and although it was not an easy decision I'd vote for the first option. I know people still use Windows XP in productive environments (I have an old Windows XP server running myself - shame on me) but to be realistic it's time to move on. Support for XP ended a long time ago, it's insecure and there's only very few cases where people are actually bound to XP for other reasons than convenience. Weighing all the pros and cons I'd say the pros clearly prevail! *So: Let me know what you think!* Does a switch to MSYS2 as build system sound reasonable to you? Is Windows XP support something we have to keep even if it means a huge amount of additional effort and requires us to limit ourselves on newer platforms on purpose? Looking forward to you thoughts, Eduard [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1609954 [2] http://www.msys2.org/ [3] https://github.com/Alexpux/MINGW-packages [4] https://github.com/Alexpux/MINGW-packages/pull/2194 [5] http://download.tuxfamily.org/inkscape/win64/ [6] https://github.com/GNOME/gtk/blob/24483481c1eaa6e3bad9f158e2d4d3ef21505d9b/…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Nondestructive booleans
by Jabier Arraiza 12 Mar '17

12 Mar '17

Thanks Michael. ping me if you need help with LPE. Cheers, Jabier. On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 15:01 +0100, Michael Soegtrop wrote: > Dear Miguel, Jabier, > > I started to finalize the embroidery stitching LPE (experimenting > with > TSP algorithms) - probably it is smarter to first update the boolean > LPE > branch and add the small changes Jabier requested. I will do so now, > should take less than 2 weeks. > > Best regards, > > Michael > > > On 27.02.2017 09:58, Jabier Arraiza wrote: > > Hi Miguel. > > There is plans to be included in 0.93 by a Boolops LPE from Michael > > Soegtrop. > > > > https://code.launchpad.net/~msoegtrop/inkscape/lpe-bool > > > > Hi, Jabier.

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Spam on answers?
by Windell H. Oskay 12 Mar '17

12 Mar '17

Can anything be done about the torrent of spam on the Inkscape answers page? (https://answers.launchpad.net/inkscape) Windell H. Oskay, Ph.D. Co-Founder and Chief Scientist Evil Mad Scientist Laboratories 175 San Lazaro Ave, STE 150 Sunnyvale CA 94086 http://www.evilmadscientist.com/

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Is it possible to specify the filetype or filename when using the verb FileSaveAs from a DOS prompt?
by alvinpenner 04 Mar '17

04 Mar '17

This is two questions, actually, somewhat loosely related: 1. I would like to run a DOS command such as: inkscape --verb=dosomething --verb=FileSaveAs \windows\temp\testtext.svg Currently this command will present me with a SaveAs dialog with the current file name and the filetype svg. I would like to specify, in the command line, either the file type for the Save As operation, or perhaps the filename with the filetype as well, so that the operation could perform silently. Not sure what the syntax would be for this. 2. Alternately, if this is not possible, is it possible to execute verbs from inside a Python script? So, for example, if I were in the Python extension dxf_outlines.py for saving a dxf file, can I execute the verb "--verb=ObjectToPath" and get output from it? tia, Alvin -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Is-it-possible-to-specify-the-filetype-or-… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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GSOC
by Jabier Arraiza 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

This year I do not go to propose me as a mentor, but if anyone is interested in my proposal from last year I could co-mentor in the dark -if posibol-. Cheers, Jabier.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Roadmap for Inkscape 0.93 on Windows - GTK3, devlibs, MSYS2 and support for Windows XP
by C R 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

May I suggest migrating to Ubuntu? You may actually have some luck running those older programs in WINE. Just a thought. :) Dosbox still runs my very first Pascal programs! You may also find good open source replacements for your old software too, and probably for free! Sorry to hear about your troubles with Windows 10. If you must have Windows, maybe win 7 would be better at this point. You could also try running XP in a VM in Ubuntu, then you could have your cake and eat it too. :) -C On 27 Feb 2017 11:20 a.m., "alvinpenner" <penner@...1856...> wrote: >> If they are still on XP, they can still use older builds of Inkscape. People stuck on XP must surely be used to new software not working on their old deprecated OS by now. Actually in my experience the situation is the exact opposite. Windows 10 has not offered me access to any new software that is of any interest to me. Instead it has forced me to abandon two old, legacy, pieces of software that I had used daily for about 15 years on XP, and now can no longer use because they are 16 bit software. So the switch to Windows 10 has been a significant step backwards in terms of functionality and in terms of user-friendliness. Windows 10 is incredibly unfriendly when it comes to simple things like copying files, and it is full of bugs and glitches. I upgraded to Windows 10 because I was literally forced to do so, not because I wanted to, and certainly not because it offered me anything that I was actually interested in. Alvin -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble. com/Roadmap-for-Inkscape-0-93-on-Windows-GTK3-devlibs-MSYS2- and-support-for-Windows-XP-tp4979046p4979062.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Nondestructive booleans
by Miguel Lopez 27 Feb '17

27 Feb '17

I'm not a expert in earlier Inkscape version as I have no experience in those, but I have heard about earlier Inkscape supporting nondestructive booleans. Did it? Is there anybody looking to restore this? I would find it interesting because that opens up to a lot more possibilities in SVG editing. What about earlier features that some Inkscape users use, but they aren't found in Inkscape .92.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Development Project Management System Gsoc 2017
by Maren Hachmann 26 Feb '17

26 Feb '17

Hi Rohit, welcome :) I'm not sure if maybe you've already received a reply via other channels, but just in case you haven't, I'm forwarding your message to the developers' mailing list, and will try to give some small kind of reply. A good (and only recently updated) source for getting started with Inkscape's website development is http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/WebSite The bug reports for the website currently live on launchpad [1] and on gitlab in parallel. If you haven't yet, and Bryce or Martin haven't already given you another 'starter task' or have one in mind, you could browse around and look if one of them catches your interest. @Bryce or Martin, I think you've both volunteered to be a GSOC mentor, maybe you already have some task in mind for GSOC students pre-application phase? Regards, Maren [1]: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web [2]: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape-web/issues Am 23.02.2017 um 16:46 schrieb Rohit Lodha: > Hello, > I am Rohit, a sophomore pursuing B.E Computer Science . I have been > developing websites and managing them for the last one year for my > college and a start-up that I had worked with. I have a huge interest in > Python and Django and have build almost all the websites using them. > > I want to contribute to Inkscape by working on the Development Project > Management System during the summer. I have gone through the Janitorial > task documentation and also have started searching for patches to fix. I > also had a look at the Django Website Development, the inkscape-web > repository. > > Can you please tell me how to proceed or any task you expect me to carry > out to be a part of the community ? > > -Rohit > My github profile: https://github.com/rtgdk > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-user mailing list > Inkscape-user(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-user >

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