March 2004 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

shorcuts and keybindings for Adobe Illustrator, Macromedia Freehand and Jasc Web Draw
by Alan Horkan 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

For reference purposes I have collected lists of keybindings from other vector graphics applications (and because I think I remember Bulia saying if these lists were provided he would look into allowing different sets of shortcuts/keybindings.) I would have provided these last week but my laptop died so instead I have been forced to fix my CD burner and put these files on disk, I also have some Adobe Illustrator screenshots I will send as soon as I have time. Shortcuts for Adobe Illustrator CS http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/illustrator/ (nice software but five hundred dollars?!? If they can do Adobe Photoshop Elements for ninety-nine dollars why haven't they done Adobe Illustrator Elements yet? The sooner cheaper and free alternatives take a bite out of their apple the better it will be for consumers. Adobe Illustrator Elements $99, my prediction for late 2005 early 2006). While I was at it I signed up for thier Beta testing program for the laugh but doubt they will ever ask me. Shortcuts for MacroMedia FreeHand MX http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/WebDraw_Keyboard_Shortcuts.html (sorry about the lack of line wraps but if mozilla can wrap long lines when you view source I dont see why it doesn't do so when viewing text files). Shortcuts for Jasc Web Draw http://www.maths.tcd.ie/~horkana/inkscape/WebDraw_Keyboard_Shortcuts.html but I'm pretty sure for my playing with WebDraw that there are other undocumented keybindings. While I still have some time left on the evaluation periods for Macromedia Freehand MX and Adobe Illustrator are there any other things people would like me to check? Any bug reports or feature requests I should file to help move along the possibility of mulitple sets of keybindings/shortcuts? Hope this helps. Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] problems with win32 (German)
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>1. Fill does not work correctly. When I drag a rect filling is shown but >when I release the mouse the filling disapears. This is bug http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=898753&group_id=93… Could you please attach a sample SVG with such disappeared rectangle to that bug. >2. Freehand tool works so far, but when I simplify that path the line is >scrumbled again (I say again, because this is the known problem in >environments where numbers does not have the english format) Yes, splivarot.cpp still uses printf. Can anyone please search the codebase and rewrite the remaining printfs, so we could finally close this bug? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Virtual memory problems - win32
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>Build - 4 March >Load Keys file >1st load about 30 seconds after a "low virtual memory" message >2nd load 95s and machine hung when leaving page. > >Build - 5 March >1st load 27s >2nd load 68s >3rd load 3+minutes. The machine hung > >Repeat test of Build 1 March >1st load 11s >2nd load 9s >3rd load 9s >4th load 11s >prog exited cleanly. Which suggests it's not Mental's 7 March change after all, but something that happened between 1 and 4 March. Let's search CVS logs for those days. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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problems with win32 (German)
by Adib Taraben 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Hi, I use the win32 build Inkscape0403090324.zip from Bob Jamisons Page. I have a german Win2k. 1. Fill does not work correctly. When I drag a rect filling is shown but when I release the mouse the filling disapears. 2. Freehand tool works so far, but when I simplify that path the line is scrumbled again (I say again, because this is the known problem in environments where numbers does not have the english format) HTH. Adib.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Virtual memory problems - win32
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>Build - 7 March > >Inkscape crashes on first attempted load of Keys. Correct. That was the day when Mental did his big commit, and that day's Inkscape died on any SVG with text. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Virtual memory problems - win32
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>Loading keys file. > >Build - 1 March > >1 12s >2 10s >3 12s >4 10s >5 13s > >Build - 9 March >1 35s >2 94s >3 3+minutes with machine hang Fred's renderer was committed on Feb 28. So I think this points at Mental's changes as the culprit. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Line skewing bug (851008)
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>Okay, so it sounds like the question becomes, what does the SVG spec say >we need to do? Does the skewing transformation Not only skewing, non-uniform scaling is also not reflected in the stroke. >result in a rendered >object that is correct according to SVG The object is perfectly valid as written into the SVG document, but displayed incorrectly. >and should be closed or recast as a more compliant feature request? Or >else does it result in something which is not according to spec, that >we'll need to figure out how to fix at some point? Only rendering is incorrect, and we'll have to fix it one day, although I don't perceive this need as pressing at the moment. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Virtual memory problems - win32
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

Just did an experiment: $ for N in `range /1..10/`; do time inkscape keys.svg; done 6.70user 0.20system 0:07.40elapsed 93%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10607minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.71user 0.24system 0:07.77elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10621minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.64user 0.25system 0:07.74elapsed 88%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10621minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.70user 0.24system 0:07.79elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10621minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.68user 0.25system 0:07.76elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10621minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.65user 0.27system 0:07.48elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10622minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.74user 0.15system 0:07.63elapsed 90%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10621minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.75user 0.19system 0:07.54elapsed 91%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10622minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.72user 0.23system 0:07.49elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10622minor)pagefaults 0swaps 6.69user 0.23system 0:07.47elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 0maxresident)k 0inputs+0outputs (2356major+10607minor)pagefaults 0swaps So keys.svg consistently takes under 7 sec to load (I pressed Ctrl+Q as soon as it came up), although it takes quite a load on CPU. However the music playing on XMMS during all of this did not hitch a slightest bit. The CPU is Athlon 1200, 512Mb RAM, kernel 2.4.24. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Virtual memory problems - win32
by bulia byak 10 Mar '04

10 Mar '04

>I noticed that it seems to take a variable time to bring up the Tutorial >file and the Keys and Mouse file. Chasing it a bit further I got into "low >on virtual memory" messages from windows and then crashes. Looks like we need boehm, and we need it NOW. I guess Linux does its memory cleanup properly, so there's no garbage left when the program exits. I work in Inkscape for hours when drawing, and I run it literally hundreds of times when doing development, with no slowdown. I guess Windows is another matter entirely... >After a couple of calls of the Tutorial file, but before crash, I tried to >use the Freehand tool and it gave very erratic performance indeed. >Sometimes >no curves, sometimes small straight sections instead of curves etc. Not a >good scene. This bug was fixed yesterday. If it didn't make it into yesterday's build, try today's. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Line skewing bug (851008)
by bulia byak 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

>I think it's very difficult. The renderer is built on the assumption that >lines are constant width. Objects are transformed (including skew) first >and rendered second. Fixing this would request transforming the result of >rendering, which is a major architectural change. I should add that even if this is agains SVG spec, it only concerns rendering. Any SVG with transformed strokes created in Inkscape will display properly in viewers that can transform strokes. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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