May 2004 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

printing works! ;-)
by Artemio 30 May '04

30 May '04

Hello all! Just wanted to tell that printing and saving as ps works just fine in the current snapshot. Artemio. -- A-Man ::: new music from Artemio ::: http://a-man.artemio.net [local time 15:55:29 (GMT +3) 30 May 2004] [system uptime 1 hr 45 min]

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: importing bitmaps as patterns
by bulia byak 30 May '04

30 May '04

>FWIW, I also fall into the "clean SVG" camp. Not just for "cleanness", >but also because SVG renderers won't necessarily perform as well >(visual glitches and slowness) with pattern fills as with bare images. Just tried Batik 1.4. It indeed has bad glitshes on redraw/scrolling, but these glitches are _the same_ on a filled rect vs. an <image>. So I don't know why one should be better than another. In fact, from my programmer's experience, both <image> and pattern fills must support the same set of operations (affine transforms, opacity) and therefore are likely to be rendered by mostly the same code. As for "slowness", this is premature optimization IMHO. We should strive to save the work time of the user first, and rendering time second. Those who need highly optimized rendering will probably be knowledgeable enough to use <image>s if that indeed gives any advantage. > 1. there should be a command to "wrap" the selected objects > into a patterned rect (determined by their collective bounding box) Yes, I thought about it too, and it's very easy to implement (once we clear the pattern bugs, that is). It will be usable not only for converting an <image> to a filled rect but for creating non-bitmap patterns too. I think "Make a tile" is a good name for such a command. > 2. there should be a corrseponding command to "unwrap" the objects in an > SPShape's fill pattern as they appear in the SPShape; I think it's > better to make copies of each rather than destroy the pattern. I'm > not sure whether this operation ought to remove the SPShape or alter > its fill. Yes, this would be nice to have too, although more difficult to implement (most of the difficulty is in finding out how many copies of the pattern you need; once you know that you need to do either boolean intersection or masking of each object in the pattern copies with the former container shape). _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] still broken actions shortcuts on non-english keyboard layo
by bulia byak 29 May '04

29 May '04

>On Saturday 29 May 2004 07:26, bulia byak wrote: > > I wonder if this is fixable at all. I could just add Cyrillic keysyms, >but > > which ones? Those that are on the same key as the Latin ones? >But how other apps manage this? Someone says that the X is responsible for >this actually. So maybe some connection with X is currently broken in >Inkscape. Indeed shortcuts work in Gimp regardless of my keyboard mode (never tried that before). Anyone got an idea of what;s the trick? Artemio, please submit this as a bug so we don't forget about it. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] color-values
by bulia byak 29 May '04

29 May '04

>Why did you guys switch the color-values in the fill dialog to a scale >of 255? Fraktions of 1 or a scale up to hundred is way more intuitive >IMHO. 1. Most graphic programs use 0..255. 2. It's more precise (255 steps vs. 100). 3. It's what you get in SVG anyway (in hex). 4. You can still type 0.5 and get 128. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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color-values
by David Christian Berg 29 May '04

29 May '04

Why did you guys switch the color-values in the fill dialog to a scale of 255? Fraktions of 1 or a scale up to hundred is way more intuitive IMHO. David -- Otto von Bismarck once remarked: “A fool learns from his experience. A wise person learns from the experience of others.” If so, how to define President George W. Bush, who is not even able to learn from his own experience?

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] still broken actions shortcuts on non-english keyboard layo
by bulia byak 29 May '04

29 May '04

>Just wanted to say that since 0.37 till yesterdaty's snapshot nothing has >changed - with a russian keyboard layout, keyboard shortcuts don't work. I wonder if this is fixable at all. I could just add Cyrillic keysyms, but which ones? Those that are on the same key as the Latin ones? But both Latin and Cyrillic keyboard layouts can vary, there's no single standard correspondence between them. Do you or anyone else have ideas on how to address this? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Gimp and Inkscape
by Tobias Jakobs 29 May '04

29 May '04

Hi, is there any reason, gimp is not listed in the RelevantCoProjects in the wiki? Tobias

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Marker
by bulia byak 28 May '04

28 May '04

>I often work with gimp and inkscape on the same screen. To compare >things I often resize and move the inkscape window. Sometimes I just >need a part of my inkscape drawing, then I like it, that the image isn't >resized. Sometimes I like it that inkscape keeps my working area just >scaled down and I have a overview about the image. I still don't see why you need to have to switch between the modes often. Can you describe a single sequence of actions during which you need to have it both ways? That's apart from the fact that, unlike Sodipodi, Inkscape does not bury its dialogs under the document window (and has less dialogs overall) and therefore requires much less moving around and resizing of the document window. In the majority of cases, the Inkscape window is just always maximized, with some dialogs floating at the fringe. If you want to have two programs on screen, let each one just take hald of your screen. There are many ways to zoom and scroll (middle button, keys, etc.) that are much more convenient IMHO than relying on autozoom when you resize the window. Or rather, I can understand why you may want to have it always zoom on resize - this behavior may be liked by some people and not others, hence the global switch. But switching this back and forth during work is something I don't understand. >Thats right, then put it at the same position where sodipodi has it, >direct above the right scrollbar. The ruler isn't needed there. OK, I don't want to seem stubborn, and that place is indeed unused, so I put it there. The global setting is now used to set the initial state of the button when the window is created, so those who prefer this to always be one way or the other will be still able to set the global preference once and forget about it. And note that the button will disappear if you hide the scrollbars (I always hide them, they're just clutter given all the other ways to scroll). But I'm still not convinced :) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] My first marker
by bulia byak 28 May '04

28 May '04

Thanks, it's a nice marker to have, so I added it to our markers.svg. Just one note: when creating markers, try to optimize your shapes because they will be potentially reused by many documents. Using Simplify and some manual tweaking, I reduced the size of your marker in half, by removing unnecessary nodes. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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is_fullscreen error in snapshot
by Bryce Harrington 28 May '04

28 May '04

We tried installing the Inkscape snapshot from 5/26 on a SuSE 9.x system but when running make ran into an error that the is_fullscreen method was missing; we're going to try again tomorrow - is this fixed in current cvs? Bryce

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