January 2005 - Inkscape Devel

Re: [Inkscape-devel] button sizes?
by Andreas Nilsson 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

David Christian Berg wrote: >Alors: >When I designed my icon theme, I noticed exactly the same problem as >Andreas did. Designing icons to use the space of 16*16 in the menu will >be clipped in the tool-option-bar. >I don't agree that this means, that the buttons have to become larger. A >svg will look rather crisp at any size and gnome is going svg, for sure. >It just means, that the rendering of the icons is kinda screwed. >The size on canvas should not matter at all! That's what svg is for. >Find the object you want to draw, take it's width or height, whatever is >bigger, and scale it proportionally to fit either the 16px of the Menu >or the I think 20 px of the tool-option bar. That's how it should work. >Right now I have to design a 24pt*24pt icon to fit the menubar. Since it >actually is 16px*16px one might think that maybe scaling up a 16pt*16pt >object would give very crisp results, but it doesn't. At the same time, >the node-editing icons created in 20pt*20pt allow you to draw single >pixels, which are 1pt*1pt. >So as I said, all this is kinda screwed, but it doesn't count as a >reason for increasing the button size. > >David > > So youre saying that there might be another reason for the clipping? The clipping is my main concern, and I thought that the size was the problem. If that is not, I apoligy for my request to make the buttons larger, especally if people find it a problem with normal-sized icons. - Andreas

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Blog: Jakub Steiner: Inkscape Evaluation
by Tobias Jakobs 22 Jan '05

22 Jan '05

Hi all, Jakub Steiner alias jimmac (The Gnome/Gimp icon man: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/ ) wrote a review of Inkscape: http://primates.ximian.com/~jimmac/blog/Artwork/Inkscape -- Tobias <tobias.jakobs@...128...>

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button sizes?
by bulia byak 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Sorry it's me ranting again. Do we HAVE to have those large buttons? I find them clumsy at this size. Up to now, there was: - a meaningful hierarchy of sizes: main tool buttons large, tool control buttons small. - a coordination of the sizes of the buttons and the rest of controls (spinbuttons, etc). Both these are now broken. Why? What for? Can we return the small size at least as an option? I'm aware of the "other apps do it this way" argument, and I'm generally sympathetic, but I don't think it has the priority over the "yuck, it's ugly" argument. That is, when what other apps do looks nice or at least decent, borrow. When our own solution is demonstrably better, stick with it. P.S. The join/cap buttons with thick white midline replaced by thick black midline became even worse. So I went ahead and fixed them using a thin dotted midline.

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Connectors
by Ashwin Bharambe 21 Jan '05

21 Jan '05

Hi all, Is there support for object connectors in inkscape? I have not been able to find one. And if not, I am willing to contribute. Ashwin

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configure error with -ldl and Boehm
by Jeremy C. Reed 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

See revision 1.11 of inkscape/inkscape/configure.ac: "When adding -lgc to LIBS, also add its dependencies -lpthread -ldl." Replaces LIBS="$LIBS -lgc" with LIBS="$LIBS -lgc -lpthread -ldl" This appears to be wrong. Some systems do not have -lpthread (such as gc built with --disable-threads) and -ldl (such as NetBSD). For example (when building using pkgsrc under NetBSD): configure:21460: checking for GC_malloc in -lgc configure:21490: c++ -o conftest -O2 -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetype2 -I/usr/pkg/include -I/usr/include -I/usr/pkg/include/freetyp e2 -L/usr/pkg/lib -Wl,-R/usr/pkg/lib -L/usr/lib -Wl,-R/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -Wl,-R/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.cc -lgc -lpthread -ldl -lintl >&5 ld: cannot find -ldl configure:21496: $? = 1 Anyways, -ldl is added to LIBS if needed in the configure script. Maybe re-order as necessary. I am not sure about checking for -lpthread though. Jeremy C. Reed open source, Unix, *BSD, Linux training http://www.pugetsoundtechnology.com/

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export bitmap palette redesign
by Alexandre Prokoudine 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

Hi, Before working on Object manager I decided to give a quick look at "Export bitmap" palette. Here are tho mockups: http://techwriter.nm.ru/mockups/mockup06.png (vertical orientation) http://techwriter.nm.ru/mockups/mockup07.png (horizontal orientation) A few notes 1. I can easily imagine plenty of people who would prefer a longer input box for filename. No probs :) Just exchange "Output file:..." label and input box. That's it. 2. I've removed units switcher, because it seems to make no sense as we already have one units switcher in document properties which works everywhere. However it is present on one of first mockups (http://techwriter.nm.ru/mockups/mockup03.png). 3. I've placed a output file size counter label on the form, because it would be a nifty feature for those who does web design in Inkscape --- they always want to know how large the file is :) Besides otherwise there will be either empty space or a too large "Export" button. 4. I might be missing some feature plans for this palette. No probs, again :) I can redesign current mockups to make them fit your plans. Alexandre

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Need status on import/export formats for FAQ
by Joshua A. Andler 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

I'm going to be updating the FAQ with what formats inkscape supports (all around, import/export/open/save). I know that (at least in the past) there were formats that were supported on Linux and not on Win32. Also, if possible, if there is any additional "status" info relating to the formats such as problems or features that we do or don't support that would be helpful as well. Thanks much! -Josh

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Proposal for bug fixing for 0.41
by Bryce Harrington 20 Jan '05

20 Jan '05

We had good results with the point-based system we used for the 0.40 release, and I'd like to propose we do the same for the 0.41 release. We chose to target 150 "points" worth of bug fixes, where low criticality bugs were 3 points, med were 6, and high 9. We had been able to achieve 150 points within a week, so I think that's something we can achieve by the end of the month. The one thing that gives some concern is that I think we have a much larger number of high criticality bugs than we did last time (18). However, I think most them are not _new_ bugs (i.e., they were present in 0.40), so if we can close any proportion of them at all (even a low number), it'd be forward progress. Do we have any "must fix" bugs for the 0.41 release? Does 150 points sound like a good goal for 0.41? Bryce

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icons restored
by Kees Cook 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

Since icons can be easily changed via the new theme support, I've restored the z-order, flip, and calligraphic icons to their original state, to maintain the 0.40 look. I think if we're going to _change_ existing icons, it should be subtle (adjustments) or whole-sale (total replacement of everything). Any personalized tweaks can be done via the ~/.inkscape/icons/icons.svg file. *eats salsa to prepare for flames* -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Inkscape on DeviantART
by Joshua A. Andler 19 Jan '05

19 Jan '05

I have gone ahead and created an identity on deviantART (http://deviantart.com <http://deviantart.com/> ) for Inkscape (which is http://inkscape.deviantart.com <http://inkscape.deviantart.com/> ). First off, it's plain jane in the moment... but will look snazzier as of tomorrow... I had two things in mind when creating it... 1) I wanted to have an inkscape account where we can have links to peoples inkscape work on DA (essentially a central hub for IS on there) 2) I also wanted a place where we can potentially have people submit artwork/icons etc for the actual inkscape project. (since we apparently now have raw icon theme-ing in place) A limitation on the inkscape group is that for anyone that is involved with administration of it or a "member" of that group, we can not choose to make any of their personal artwork a group favorite. It's a stupid limitation but I can understand the rules... they don't want self-promotion through groups. But this is easy to resolve as it's really more of a communal place to hang out as opposed to a "club" or something (unless that's what people want). For those unfamiliar with DA, it lives up to the name and a significant portion of the work posted there is "devious" by some nature. We will do everything in our power to make the inkscape group as clean as possible and will never link to anything depraved or tasteless as well as most likely not anything containing nudity either. Given the slight potential for that being an issue, I think this is too good of a place to show off inkscape to pass up... given that it's the largest art community on the net. To get the ball rolling, if you are a member of DA and interested in this, please reply on the user-list (or directly to me via email if you prefer) with your DA username or a link to your gallery. My current goal is to have a good assortment of artwork to refer people to when we make the announcement about the next release in a few weeks. If you aren't a member on DA and use inkscape for anything even relatively creative... what are you waiting for? =) I will post a few favorites tonight of inkscape work I've run across on DA so far, so... the page should start looking a bit more interesting this evening. -Josh

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