March 2005 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Icon theme
by Jean-François Lemaire 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

Hello, I just commited share/icons/David_icons.svg and share/icons/README.icons They are not installed when I update and make install but I suppose something has to be done for those files to be installed? No idea what, however. Jef

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Extension errors
by Mike Hearn 31 Mar '05

31 Mar '05

Hi, Currently Inkscape seems to store a list of extensions it's seen before somewhere, I am not sure where. This causes problems for people who use the autopackages because if they have installed Inkscape before from say apt-get, they probably pulled in various apps along with it like Dia etc and also the plugins. They then install the autopackage and these extensions disappear and now Inkscape gives them an error whenever they start. I don't think having an extension be removed is really an error, could this behaviour be changed? It's already a preference to not show these logs at startup, maybe it could just default to off? Also I'm afraid I spotted a stupid bug in the specfile, it was not installing any extensions at all. So here is the 3rd revision of the 0.41 autopackage <sigh>: http://navi.cx/~mike/inkscape/inkscape-0.41-3.x86.package Could it be uploaded to SourceForge and the website changed please? Apologies for the inconvenience. This sort of dumb mistake does remind me why I recommend to others that developers should package their own stuff (a rule I ignored for Inkscape because I needed testing :). I would love for an Inkscape developer - ie somebody who *really* understands this software - to take over maintenance of the autopackages, even if I continue to do the nightly builds. If nobody is up for it then no matter, I will carry on with it. But I think users would have higher quality packages if a dedicated Inkscape developer were to do it. To give people a taste of what is involved, I pasted the specfile I'm using below. The build system isn't complicated at all. Enhancing the packages would involve doing things like making the gtkspell dependency optional at runtime so it could be enabled, and so on. thanks -mike [Meta] RootName: @inkscape.org/inkscape:$SOFTWAREVERSION ShortName: inkscape DisplayName: Inkscape Vector Graphics Editor Summary: Inkscape is an open source SVG editor with capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw and Visio SoftwareVersion: @VERSION@ Maintainer: The Inkscape team <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Packager: Mike Hearn <mike@...333...> PackageVersion: 3 AutopackageTarget: 1.0 [Description] Inkscape is an open source SVG editor with capabilities similar to Illustrator, CorelDraw, Visio, etc. Supported SVG features include basic shapes, paths, text, alpha blending, transforms, gradients, node editing, svg-to-png export, grouping, and more. [BuildPrepare] if [ ! -x configure ]; then ./autogen.sh fi export APBUILD_STATIC="popt=$source_dir/autopackage/libpopt.a gc gccpp" export LDFLAGS="-L/home/mike/static/lib" export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/home/mike/static/lib/pkgconfig prepareBuild --enable-binreloc [BuildUnprepare] unprepareBuild [Imports] echo '*' | import # import everything [Prepare] require @gnu.org/libstdc++ 3 require @xmlsoft.org/libxml2 2.6 require @xmlsoft.org/libxslt 1.0 require @gtk.org/gtk 2.4 # statically linked for now: require @rpm.org/popt 0.0 # statically linked: require @libsigc.sourceforge.net/libsigc 3 require @libpng.org/libpng 3 # statically linked: require @gtkmm.org/gtkmm2 3 require @zlib.org/zlib 1 [Install] installExe bin/inkscape bin/inkview installMan 1 man/man1/* installIcon share/pixmaps/inkscape.png installDesktop "Graphics" share/applications/inkscape.desktop copyFiles --nobackup share/locale $PREFIX/share copyFiles share/inkscape $PREFIX/share copyFiles lib/inkscape $PREFIX/lib [Uninstall] uninstallFromLog

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User levels, post editing, and such
by Jonathan Leighton 30 Mar '05

30 Mar '05

Okay, I had a look at the WordPress we have running on the site today, and discovered that users of the same level cannot edit each other's posts. Personally, I think it would be good if they could because then we could all help each other in terms of spell checks, tweaks, etc -- which would hopefully result in higher quality posts. Apparently, according to those in the know about such things, prior to WordPress 1.5, people were complaining because people with the same user level *could* edit each other's posts, so they changed it like it is now. However, I am also told that a plugin could be written to change this behaviour back. Before plunging in and trying to do so, I thought I'd better check that such behaviour is desirable. If so, I'd only make it possible for the devs, who have had their user level raised, because we wouldn't want people submitting drafts that can be edited by anyone with an account. On this note, I'd just like to explain one thing: I chose a user level of 5 for developers because if you go any higher, you start getting into configuration options and stuff -- I didn't want to over-complicate things, and I'm really the only person who needs to worry about configuration. For a full explanation of what the different user levels do, have a look here: http://codex.wordpress.org/User_Levels. If anyone objects to my decision of the default developer user level, do feel free to say so. Jon -- Jonathan Leighton aka. Turnip http://turnipspatch.com/ | http://digital-proof.org/

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Parser warning
by Jean-François Lemaire 30 Mar '05

30 Mar '05

Hello, Thanks to Bulya I just noticed that if I create a gradient, the following line: xmlns:xlink="&#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38; #38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38; #38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;ns_xlink;" gets added at the beginning of the file, around line 8 or 9, and when I open this file in Inkscape I get the following parser warning: /home/jfl/x.svg:9: parser warning : xmlns:xlink: '&#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38; #38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38; #38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;ns_xlink;' is not a valid URI 38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38;#38; ns_xlink; ^ What is that? Jef

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Documentation Brainstorming for Shape Controls
by Kevin Wixson 30 Mar '05

30 Mar '05

Inkscape has wonderful capabilities, among them, the ability to edit basic shapes after they've been initially created via the various shape tools stands out. There isn't, as far as I can tell, any consistent or particularly descriptive way of talking about these capabilities presently in use. I need some help coming up with a clever and descriptive name for the ability to edit shapes (polygon, rectangle, ellipse, spiral) with their respective tools (and the Tool Controls bar). "Shape Control" doesn't quite cut it, imo. Just looking for some brainstorming on this, so please throw out some suggestions. Thanks, -Kevin

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keys.xml and "# toggle grid and snapping to grid"
by Luca Bruno 30 Mar '05

30 Mar '05

Hi all, I'm translating keys.svg in Italian. I've found that the shortcut for "toggle grid and snapping to grid" is the #, which from the document seems to be mapped on Shift+3... On the italian layout it's mapped only to AltGr+à (yes, strange key :), while on Shift+3 we have "£"... No other shotcut use AltGr combination, so I ask if is possible to change this shortcut to something more natural for us. Thanks, Luc@ P.S. the translation is not yet finished, but i've attached my work so far, for the inclusion in CVS. I'm working on keys.xml, I'm right? I've found also keys.fr.xml, but I cannot find a makefile entry for it... How does it work? -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Luca Bruno : :' : The Universal O.S. | luca.br(AT)uno.it `. `'` | GPG Key ID: 3BFB9FB3 on keyserver.linux.it `- http://www.debian.org | Proud Debian GNU/Linux User -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Calzature moda sport. Da Oliviero.it le ultime novità autunno-inverno 2004/2005: Nike, Puma, Adidas.... * Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid(46&d)-3

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NEW: more clonetiler fun: color, tracing, unclumping
by bulia byak 29 Mar '05

29 Mar '05

There's quite a lot of new stuff to announce - if you don't feel like reading all this, just scroll down for screenshot links :) "Tile Clones" dialog improvements: - The new Color tab allows you to change, randomize, or alternate the hue, saturation, and lightness of the tile color per row or per column. You can also set the initial color of the tiles to which these alterations will apply. Changing color works only if the clones' original (or some parts of it, if the original is a group) has unset fill or stroke (use the Fill&Stroke dialog to unset paint). http://inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-tiles-color.png Note the new HSL color sliders (replacing the old HSV). - The new Tracing tab allows you to trace the drawing under the tiling. You can set it to pick color, opacity, or any or the RGB or HLS channels in the area covered by each tile; then optionally randomize, invert, or gamma-correct the picked value; and finally apply that value to the tile's probability of presence, size, color, or opacity (or any combinations of these). This makes it possible to do an infinite amount of effects on drawings (both vector drawings and imported bitmaps), such as tesselated mosaics, "impressionist paint", geometric grids, color separation lattices, and more. You can also easily control the extent and the density of your tiling by preparing a temporary shape and tracing opacity-to-presence over it, or you can "paint over" a stroke with a pattern or randomized scattering. http://inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-trace-color.png http://inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-trace-objects.png If the original tile is a group, you can unset paint on some objects on the group while others (e.g. highlights or shadows) will retain their original colors, unaffected by trace coloring. - The new Unclump button attempts to reduce local unevenness in distribution of the tiles. When you unclump a tiling, each tile tries to move to a point equidistant from its closest neighbors. If a single unclumping is not enough, you can press Unclump repeatedly, trying to achieve a balance between eliminating small-scale clumps and preserving large-scale features of the tiling. Unclumping works equally well on both randomized and regular tilings, changing them both into a characteristic texture which appears random, but not blindly random - very similar to what a human would produce if asked to evenly fill a space with random dots. As a result, properly unclumped dot tilings remind of hand-made engravings. http://inkscape.org/screenshots/gallery/inkscape-0.42-CVS-tiles-unclump.png Notice how the contrast and detailedness of the dot pattern improve as you apply unclumping repeatedly (top right) - even though unclumping is unaware of the background image that was traced by the tiling, it seems to bring out more image details that were "hidden" in the random scattering. You can also apply unclumping to regular tilings, converting them from "newspaper print" to "old engraving" (bottom right). - On all tabs, controls have been rearranged into a table-like layout for more convenient access. Separate controls are added for alternating values per row or per column, as well as for randomizing each value separately (e.g. now you can randomize only the horizontal shifts but not vertical). - The new Exponent values on the Shift tab allow you to make rows or columns to exponentially converge (for values less than 1) or diverge (for values greater than 1). The default of 1 creates rows and columns spaced evenly. - The upper limits for scales and shifts are increased (from 100% to 1000% of tile size), and the precision of the input fields is higher. - There's a mini-statusbar at the bottom of dialog which shows the number of tiled clones of the selected object.

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David Christian Berg's icon theme
by Jean-François Lemaire 29 Mar '05

29 Mar '05

Hello, David Christian Berg told me recently that he won't have time to finish is icon theme in the near future, but since his theme is complete enough for me, I suggest that it should be committed. So I am about to upload a screenshot of an Inkscape session with his theme (http://users.skynet.be/jflemaire/fichiers/Inkscape_session.png) and a blurb for the website news. Some questions, though: - Should I upload the whole lot (the icons.svg file, the PNG screenshot and the blurb) on the patch tracker or somewhere else? - If I understand correctly, the only way to change the icon theme is by putting the 'icons.svg' file into the '$INSTALL/share/inkscape/icons' directory. But what if a user does not have write access to this directory? - Since I'm running KDE, some stock icons are different (such as open and save) because they are taken from the stock KDE icons. It shows on the screenshot. Is that a problem? Jef

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swatches
by David Christian Berg 29 Mar '05

29 Mar '05

Hey guys, I just noticed that there are swatches implemented -- jippi! But is it worth complaining about already? :-) David

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape website in French
by Nicu Buculei 29 Mar '05

29 Mar '05

i don't have consistent answers, but i reply anyway because you forgot to reply to the list Luca Bruno wrote: > I think that something should be done for the internalization of the > website... I've seen just today the "Italian" link at the bottom of the > page: that's not *italian*... only babelfish can speak that way :)... i believe the automatic translation was a *temporary* solution > I'm already subscribed to wordpress; I'd like to translate news feed in > italian but, doing that, I will duplicate news...it will be useless for > non-italian user. > > Isn't possible to implement a language chooser or something similar? > I've never used wordpress (and rss-feed in general :( ) so I cannot > speak about that, but i was thinking about something similar to > www.debian.org : it recognizes the language of your browser and sets the > site language accordingly... so you offer to maintain yourself an translated version of the website or at least of the front page? > Also having different submask (fr.inkscape.org,it.i.o...) to redirect > to, would do the job :) probably this was not implemented yet mainly because of the lack of volunteers offering to maintain those localized pages -- nicu

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