May 2005 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Win32, next release GTK with Wimp Theme
by Adib Taraben 19 May '05

19 May '05

Hello, is it possible for the next release to have the Wimp theme in the Win32 packe as the standard-theme ? Thx, Adib. --

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MALLINFO?
by Mike Hearn 19 May '05

19 May '05

Hi, I can't build CVS anymore, autogen says: Running aclocal-1.7 ... Running autoheader ... autoheader-2.59: warning: missing template: HAVE_MALLINFO_FORDBLKS autoheader-2.59: Use AC_DEFINE([HAVE_MALLINFO_FORDBLKS], [], [Description]) autoheader-2.59: warning: missing template: HAVE_MALLINFO_FSMBLKS autoheader-2.59: warning: missing template: HAVE_MALLINFO_HBLKHD autoheader-2.59: warning: missing template: HAVE_MALLINFO_UORDBLKS autoheader-2.59: warning: missing template: HAVE_MALLINFO_USMBLKS Please fix the error conditions and try again. Does anybody know what I'm missing? thanks -mike

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Printer dialog interface
by Jeremy C. Reed 18 May '05

18 May '05

Please CC me on replies. This is a request. I didn't see anything about in the change log or in the the the RoadMap. Please consider having a friendlier printer dialog. My wife and young children do not know command line Unix. Using a pipe or greater than is not intuitive for them :) Please consider using a printer dialog widget that allows to choose: - print to PostScript file (and a dialog to choose filename.ps) - print to printer (and maybe use parsed printers names found from printcap) - how many copies to print, etc. Please carbon copy me on replies. Jeremy C. Reed BSD News, BSD tutorials, BSD links http://www.bsdnewsletter.com/

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GIMP 2.3
by bulia byak 16 May '05

16 May '05

At http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS, one thing jumped on me: - added an option to make the dock windows transient to the active image display I haven't tried it yet, but from the description, this is exactly what Inkscape does for its dialogs. FINALLY. For me, this was by far the worst usability problem with GIMP (and with Sodipodi/Inkscape, until I invented the transientize hack). About a year ago I spent quite some time trying to persuade them that this hack, while being a hack, is still better than no solution at all. Looks like they have finally agreed :) This is big news, even if this option is off by default. At least now we can be telling people that GIMP is not really that much worse than Inkscape, if you know the right option to enable :) It's also good that now that we both implement this behavior, we can exchange the code and fixes, and maybe join our forces to make it less hack-ish and more standard. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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info on extensions
by David Christian Berg 16 May '05

16 May '05

Hey guys, My brother (and also myself) would like to have perspective skewing... Now since I don't know the first thing about programming, he'll do the job, and would like to use extensions for this. Now we don't really get them working (I don't see the extension entry in the menu bar in the first place), I'd like to have some input on how they work, or how to get them running. David

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Re: [cairo] SVG scene lib]
by Bryce Harrington 15 May '05

15 May '05

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Liam Breck <svg@...808...> > > Proposed: An SVG Scene (aka canvas) Library for Cairo > Feedback requested! > > The Inkscape Wiki discusses an SVG-based canvas lib, but it looks far out > on their roadmap. Could any Inkscape folks comment? Hi Liam, Yes, it's definitely something we want to migrate to but no one is currently working on creating it in canvas form. Inkscape's canvas code can be found in the inkscape/src/display/ directory, and might be worth reviewing for ideas. It's essentially a port of GnomeCanvas that has evolved for our own needs. The API of this code includes functions for things like: * grabbing/ungrabbing focus * Requesting/performing updates/redraws * getting z-order of a given item * Scrolling * calculating if a given point is in the window * getting/setting windows/viewboxes and their coords * Getting the currently selected item(s) * Handling grid overlays * etc. Bryce

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Fwd: [cairo] SVG scene lib
by Ashwin Bharambe 15 May '05

15 May '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Liam Breck <svg@...808...> Date: May 15, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [cairo] SVG scene lib (was: MOZ-SVG-cairo) To: cairo@...278... Proposed: An SVG Scene (aka canvas) Library for Cairo Feedback requested! Goals Provide functionality & perfomance suitable for creating full UI/page/etc. Enable multi-client/collaborative applications Enable lightweight applications for mobile platforms Enable presentation of compound documents Features & Requirements Implement SVG object model Render to Cairo; any Cairo backend Layout text with Pango (what about flowText?) Support incremental rendering (differences only) Provide model API for insert/delete/update/z-move Support out-of-process API calling, i.e. for compound documents Provide API to identify SVG object & group at xy, i.e. for hit-testing Allow out-of-band regions (non-SVG, non-Cairo), e.g. video/3D Allow higher-level widgets/applets to "own" model objects Allow use in various frameworks GTK/QT/airWRX/Cocoa/.NET/Python/Java Support multiple clients/viewers of a scene on IP network Support client-specific objects, and properties, e.g. text selection When there's some consensus, I'll crank out a lib for cairo-win32 from our existing code, write a demo app, and release as a prototype under LGPL. The Inkscape Wiki discusses an SVG-based canvas lib, but it looks far out on their roadmap. Could any Inkscape folks comment? Liam Breck Network Improv http://networkimprov.net/airwrx/ _______________________________________________ cairo mailing list cairo@...278... http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/cairo

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inkscape in the press
by Adib Taraben 15 May '05

15 May '05

the german Lunux-User magazin issue 5/2005 from 21st april had an artikel. "Perfekte Vektorgrafiken in Inkscape" http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2005/05/053-inkscape/index.html http://www.linux-user.de/ I only saw the link and do not have this magazin. Just let you know.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Interpolate
by Jose Hevia 15 May '05

15 May '05

> bulia byak wrote: > > On 5/14/05, aaron@...749... <aaron@...749...> wrote: > >>Please download the latest version. It should no longer have this > >>limitation. Thanks for your help. > > > > Excellent, subdivision works now. Generally the results are very good, > > but there's one glitch illustrated by the attached file: the left path > > has 2 nodes and the right one 3, so the left one is subdivided, but > > interpolation gives wrong length and direction of the bezier handle at > > the bottom node near the left path (i.e. the points A and B have too > > different bezier handles, so there's a visible gap there). This may be > > caused by some error in the subdivision function (the top and middle > > nodes in the subdivied path seem to be OK, it's only the bottom one > > that is off). > > Ah yes, I see. I will look at that. Side note. I can't run the > interpolate script on the file you sent me. It fails with an xml > namespace error. strange. > > Also opening an svg created on such a large screen makes me wonder. > Could Inkscape be taught to open maximized if the window size stored in > the document is larger than the screen? I find windows that are larger > than my screen difficult to work with. I wonder if other people feel > that way too. > > Aaron Spike Not really, in Linux you could press Alt ,then drag the entire window with the mouse. Jose Hevia

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dangerous duplication - please fix
by bulia byak 14 May '05

14 May '05

(I'm not sure if this will get through to the list, so I'm cc'ing those who did commits to the relevant dir) Today I reviewed our po files and noticed a lot of new UI strings coming from the ui/ directory. This needs to be fixed immediately, or at least before we declare the string freeze and call the translators to update translations. These new strings are really a very bad idea for several reasons: - They are duplicate of strings found elsewhere, but often non-exact duplicates (or their originals have changed since they were copied). This means a lot of useless extra work for translators, dangers of further desynchronization, etc. - These strings are sometimes "fixed" wrongly. For example in stock-items.cpp, someone wrote "Select _Original Clone" instead of the "Select _Original". This "correction" simply does not make sense; what is meant is "select the original _of the_ clone" but even in that form it's wrong because it is applicable not only to clones. - Most strings in ui/view/edit.cpp have hard-coded shortcuts in them, e.g "Next zoom (from history of zooms) (Shift+`)". This is absolutely intolerable, for obvious reasons. The old code has special provisions for generating shortcut strings for the UI, and losing that is a serious regression. I can see several approaches to fixing this, please choose one or more as appropriate: 1. If this ui/ code is unused and is not going to be used, simply delete it and regenerate the po's. 2. If it is currently unused but may be used later, at least remove it from the list of po sources, so it does not contaminate the po files, until it is fixed properly. 3. Rewrite the code so that, where possible, it takes the strings from the standard central location. For example all verbs have their commands and tooltips in verbs.cpp, so copying them over into ui/stock-items.cpp is very very wrong. 4. Where 3. is not appropriate and you want to move some of the strings into some new code or structure, do this ONLY when that new code or structure is fully workable, and then immediately delete them from the source location, so that there's no duplication ever. Until then, use some placeholder strings in your code and make sure they don't get into the po files. As you may have noticed, I'm _constantly_ revising and copyediting the UI strings, because it's such an important aspect of the UI. Please don't undermine my efforts. I hope this mess is cleaned as soon as possible. Thanks! -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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