March 2007 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Soc for multipage support
by cedric GEMY 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Nice to find that, but i just wonder why a multipage would only be export in separate EPS files and not also in PDF why would allow to do nice Presentations wih Inskcape. pygmee

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Selector's scale handle modifiers
by bulia byak 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

Currently, when you scale an object by its scale handles in Selector, you can use the following modifiers: Ctrl+mouse drag scale preserving aspect ratio Shift+mouse drag symmetric transformation (around center) Alt+mouse drag slow movement The "slow movement" mode with Alt simply scales the object by 1/10 of your mouse movement, the goal being increased precision. This mode is inherited unchanged all the way from Sodipodi. In my opinion, however, it is weird, counterintuitive and not at all useful. It also has no analogs in other tools. So my question is, will anyone complain if I remove the "slow movement" mode? On the other hand, one useful thing that's missing is the ability to scale the object to 2, 3, 4 and 1/2, 1/3, 1/4 etc of its current size. (This is possible from keyboard by Ctrl+> and Ctrl+< but not by mouse). So I'm thinking about enabling the Alt modifier to do this "quantized scaling". Among other things, this would enable the often needed transformation: flipping an object around one of its bbox edges (by Ctrl+Alt+dragging a side handle). Thoughts? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code Ideas
by Eric Wilhelm 08 Mar '07

08 Mar '07

# from Thorsten Wilms # on Thursday 08 March 2007 01:43 am: >- you would loose flexibility. changing anything about the perspective >would require you to start over. Ah, and here I thought it was 2007 or something. Silly me. I would really like to see cooperating programs define workflows that automatically update when the source data changes rather than the export, import, redefine dance. In the short term, simple 3D operations in inkscape will work, but I think it wants to be a 2D tool. --Eric -- The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. --George Bernard Shaw --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com --------------------------------------------------- >From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Mar 08 02:33:47 2007 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:33:41 +0100 From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...123...> To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <20070308103341.GB4623@...1413...> References: <20070307201334.GB15938@...961...> <c360db7d0703080108m5dcfcb6cq69acbe6fac0447a0@...401...> <20070308094313.GA4623@...1413...> <200703080208.51958.ewilhelm@...970...> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200703080208.51958.ewilhelm@...970...> Priority: normal X-Mailer: Mutt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Google Summer of Code Ideas X-BeenThere: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: t_w_@...123... List-Id: <inkscape-devel.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>, <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=inkscape-devel> List-Post: <mailto:inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>, <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 10:33:47 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 02:08:51AM -0800, Eric Wilhelm wrote: > # from Thorsten Wilms > # on Thursday 08 March 2007 01:43 am: > > >- you would loose flexibility. changing anything about the perspective > >would require you to start over. > I would really like to see cooperating programs define workflows that > automatically update when the source data changes rather than the > export, import, redefine dance. So would I. But it's not given, hence my bullet point. > In the short term, simple 3D operations in inkscape will work, but I > think it wants to be a 2D tool. Paper is 2d. Designers and illustrators have been constructing drawings from 3d grids, boxes and spheres since ages. -- Thorsten Wilms Thorwil's Creature Illustrations: http://www.printfection.com/thorwil

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Mentors for Inkscape GSoC?
by Bryce Harrington 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hi all, The application is in, and once we're accepted, we will need to identify mentors. Would you like to be included in this list? If so, please drop me an email! I would especially like to encourage new developers and students from past years to consider becoming mentors. It's a great experience and a fun way to help see your ideas for improving Inkscape take shape. All you need is adequate knowledge of the inkscape codebase, and time to answer questions. Interested? Shoot me an email. Bryce

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PyXML dependency problem
by Bob Jamison 07 Mar '07

07 Mar '07

Hi all, I was doing my periodic shopping for updates to the various libs that we use for Inskcape/win32, when I saw this disturbing page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6473 We are already using an older version of Python because of this. Is there another python XML parser that we can use? bob

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Summer of Code
by Gail Banaszkiewicz 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Hi all! I was chatting with Bulia Byak (I believe - please correct me if I'm wrong) on your IRC channel yesterday about Google's Summer of Code. I just wanted to introduce myself to everyone and say that Inkscape is definitely a project I'm really excited about having the chance to work on. More on that in a bit. In the near future, I hope to write the list again with some ideas on possible projects for SoC. So, a bit about me. My name is Gail and I'm a student at Carleton University. This is my last semester of computer science, after which I will be pursuing a masters of computer science in September. My area of interest is computer vision / graphics / computational geometry. This originally stemmed from the fact that, growing up, I have been really into graphic design in a hobby kind of way. My favorite software has been CorelDRAW, and I even got to work at Corel for some of my co-op terms. I worked on the text engine for DRAW X3, so I imagine it will be a good idea to propose projects outside that area to avoid that nasty IP issue ;) The software is quite large, so there are many areas that I never even touched upon. And so you can see why Inkscape is an exciting project for me. I haven't used it much in the past, but was able to recently pick it up quickly thanks to my experience with vector graphics. It looks like the software has an awesome base already, and lots of potential for new and innovative tools. I like your culture of enforcing high usability that was implied during my IRC chat. To me this is a very important aspect that is often given too little weight. That's it for now... If anyone wants to know more about me, please feel free to ask, and if anyone has any big requests for projects this year, I don't mind working with that! And like I said, I intend to play around some more with the program and come up with some new ideas as well. Until then, Gail

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Error during building the Inkscape 0.45.
by Federico 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

This is the feature of the system that has compiled Inkscape 0.45 for OS X: OS X version: 10.4.8 Fink: Package manager version: 0.24.23 Distribution version: 0.8.1.rsync powerpc 10.4 tree GCC versions: gcc-4.0 g++-4.0 Configure options: --enable-osxapp --disable-static --enable-shared Stripped: trueand I suppose that you must use gcc 4.0 or 4.3! For more info: http://inkscape.modevia.com/macosx-snap/Inkscape_20061213-info.txt http://inkscape.modevia.com/ Federico ----- Original Message ----- From: "Areozol" <areozol@...1663...> To: "inkscape-devel" <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Error during building the Inkscape 0.45. > > Hi there, > > I am trying to build the Inkscape 0.45 for Pather (Mac OS X 10.3.9), > but during the building, the following error has occured: > > object-edit.cpp: In function `void sp_spiral_outer_set(SPItem*, const > NR::Point&, const NR::Point&, unsigned int)': > object-edit.cpp:921: error: `isfinite' undeclared in namespace `std' > make[2]: *** [object-edit.o] Error 1 > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > What to do now? I am using gcc 3.3, but I can install the gcc 4.3 by > Darwin Ports. Would it resolve my problem? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join. php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel Naviga e telefona senza limiti con Tiscali Scopri le promozioni Tiscali adsl: navighi e telefoni senza canone Telecom http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/

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Animation mocksups
by Andy Fitzsimon 06 Mar '07

06 Mar '07

Hi. Looking for contributions to mockups for animiation scripting and xml editor support. http://andy.brisgeek.com/archives/39 I've hacked up what i can for now. It's probably better to reply here than on comments Thanks Andy >From MAILER-DAEMON Tue Mar 06 01:04:41 2007 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:03:58 +0100 From: Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...123...> To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Message-ID: <20070306090358.GA4605@...1413...> References: <b6c2c33c0703052353r75e927e7ua559967b5db78f43@...401...> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <b6c2c33c0703052353r75e927e7ua559967b5db78f43@...401...> Priority: normal X-Mailer: Mutt User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. Report problems to http://sf.net/tracker/?func=add&group_id=1&atid=200001 Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Animation mocksups X-BeenThere: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: t_w_@...123... List-Id: <inkscape-devel.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>, <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=inkscape-devel> List-Post: <mailto:inkscape-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel>, <mailto:inkscape-devel-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:04:41 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 05:53:18PM +1000, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > Hi. > > Looking for contributions to mockups for animiation scripting and xml > editor support. > http://andy.brisgeek.com/archives/39 > > I've hacked up what i can for now. It's probably better to reply > here than on comments Shouldn't there be a specification, list of features first? What should be possible with the animation system? I would like to see: - Tracks per object. Layers could be handled as track-folders, then. - The tracks would control an object's 'lifespan' with regions, where a region is basically just a rectangle across time. Outside of regions, the object would not 'exist'. This saves one from tricks like moving objects out of viewport or toggling there visibility in some obscure way. - Keying of shap, stroke, fill, opacity, blur ... - Control over transitions between keys (stepped, linear, progressive ...) Extra: - animation curves (called IPO curves in Blender). Bezier curves (splines would do, too) to control single parameters over time, for example the amout of red in a fill. And just now I remeber it's all SVG and I have no clue what can be put in there in a sensible way. -- Thorsten Wilms Thorwil's Creature Illustrations: http://www.printfection.com/thorwil

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Fwd: [Inkscape-user] unable to export bitmaps
by Jasper van de Gronde 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

bulia byak wrote: > Thanks, indeed this is a bug. There's a limitation of the size of > buffer that Inkscape can allocate, about 5000 by 5000 pixels. However > this should not prevent your 7000 by 8000 file from exporting, because > the export is done piecewise. So the problem is that the piecewise > export fails when there's a blurred object, and looks like it tries to > allocate the entire 7000 by 8000 buffer for the blurred ellipse. > Instead it must only allocate the current strip plus approx the 2.5 > times stdDeviation of the blur (that's the difference at which the > blur fringe is virtually invisible). Jasper, can you please look into > that, as you last changed that code? It would be nice to reduce the > memory requirements of export with blur - without introducing > artefacts, of course :) I will definitely take a look, but it could take a while, as I'm currently quite busy. If someone else wants to take a look, my guess is that it's "simply" a matter of getting the boundingboxes right. Basically what I did earlier was adjust the visible area (or something like that, I'd have to check) of the export area to the entire image. Usually this doesn't mean that the entire image is drawn for each stripe, but especially if you have objects spanning the entire image this probably could (I couldn't figure out exactly how this all worked, when I tried actually modifying the clipping code I got some results I didn't expect). What it should do instead is just extend the current stripe by the amount needed by any blurs in the current stripe. One theory I had about why modifying the clipping code didn't work (for me) and why the current set up does work was that perhaps some calculations where creating bboxes with negative coordinates and that possibly something didn't like that much, since I suddenly got off set images and so on, but it's mostly guesswork. BTW, if someone gets this fixed there is a good chance it would also fix bug 1643892.

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Dev-Builds on modevia.com
by unknown＠example.com 05 Mar '07

05 Mar '07

About the svn-head builds posted on inkscape.modevia.com: are these done automatically or is building manually initiated? (just out of curiosity) More seriously: the quoted time of the build is that PST, CET or...? :) (it can be important when people want to test after bugfixes) As for debugging: the website says to run "gdb --symbols=inkscape.dbg inkscape", however this does not work for me. I use "gdb" and then in gdb I must enter: "file inkscape.exe inkscape.dbg" (note that the order in which the filenames are typed is essential). Then one must enter "run" to run the prog, etc. (I think it is most clear to explicitly write to enter "run" on the website). And... while I am busy: http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32_inkscape_org/win32buildnotes.html needs to be updated for the current buildtool. This helps new developers tremendously. Thanks for your efforts! Johan

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