July 2009 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Re: [Inkscape-devel] File Export (Save-As) Tests for v0.47
by ~suv 01 Aug '09

01 Aug '09

On 31/7/09 22:18, Tavmjong Bah wrote: >>> .dfx: Generic AutoCAD export failed to load (see .ai). >> 1) missing helper_extension 'org.inkscape.output.ps' >> (related bug #407215 <https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/407215>) >> proposed fix: in dxf_output.inx >> s/org.inkscape.output.ps/org.inkscape.print.ps.cairo/ >> >> the 'AutoCAD DXF (*.dxf)'output extension is loaded and creates DXF >> output if pstoedit is installed, though I cannot get pstoedit to create >> DXF files that can be re-imported in Inkscape (on OS X 10.5.7, pstoedit >> 3.45). > > This seems to work but it calls up the PostScript output dialog which I > am not sure is the best. Qcad does read the output dxf OK. Tested on > Fedora 11 with today's svn. AFAIU pstoedit depends on the intermediary .ps format as inkscape output because it does the conversion ps->dxf. Latest version of pstoedit 3.45 is from September 2007. Maybe the helper_extension could to be changed like the one used for the 'print preview' which doesn't prompt for PDF output options either (or does 'print preview' use Postscript output?). Using 'org.inkscape.print.ps' instead of 'org.inkscape.print.ps.cairo' doesn't work although it's defined in src/extension/extension.h. Or there are other cross-platform converters available that can do it in one step: svg->dxf (besides Alvins enhanced dxf_outlines.py extension)? ~suv

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Interesting drawing add
by Ivan Louette 31 Jul '09

31 Jul '09

I asked me if this kind of tool existed for Linux. Should be a very interesting add for those who use Inkscape with a mouse ! ivan http://people.happycoders.org/kamih/wordpress/?page_id=46

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] InkscapeForum.com for offer to Inkscape.org
by Jarosław Foksa 30 Jul '09

30 Jul '09

Yeah, those were my terrible designs from last year, but I'm glad that at least you liked them ;) I have attached SVG file of the design that I'm currently porting to Drupal. The template needs some really awesome header graphics, which I'm unable to design myself. On 07/29/2009 02:11:21 PM, David Robertson wrote: > If people are interested in a drupal theme, there were some good draft > designs from the deivant art > contest<http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/17274523/? > offset=0#comments>, > one of which I made a HTML > mockup of<http://mr-imaginative.deviantart.com/art/Inkscape-org-redesign- > markup-97029422>. > I've done another mockup of another > design<http://noveltybeard.co.cc/inkscape/>(better, IMHO), too,

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Gabbed item of a selection
by Diederik van Lierop 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Op Zo, 26 juli, 2009 17:56, schreef Yann Papouin: > 2009/7/26 Diederik van Lierop <mail@...1689...> > >> Why would that be smarter? Do you want to snap the bounding box of only >> the >> item that's under the mouse pointer, instead of the bounding box of each >> item in the selection? >> >> > Take a look on > http://ftpmerou.free.fr/inkscape/snap-bounding-box-selection.png to see > what > I mean. > I just want to snap to the middle bounding box of the "middle man" not the > bounding box of all the selection. In the case I want to snap to all the > selection, I will group it. > Yes, now I see! Somethings is not working out the way it should. Probably there are many nodes in your paths, in which case Inkscape only considers the convex hull. That's because snapping many nodes might take too long. Obviously, this shouldn't be an issue when snapping only bounding boxes; on top of that, it should say "convex hull to grid intersection" in the tooltip instead. So I'm not 100% sure what's going on here. I'm pretty sure though that Inkscape usually looks at the individual boundingboxes, as you want it to; just draw three rectangles, select them all, and try to snap their bounding boxes. Anyway, I will fix this if you want; it would be helpful if you could send me your svg file for testing. Diederik

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] InkscapeForum.com for offer to Inkscape.org
by David Robertson 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

I had some trouble posting to the list - sorry if this duplicates. 2009/7/29 Jarosław Foksa <jfoksa@...400...> > Hi, > I should have my basic theme ported to Drupal during this weekend. It > currently looks like this [1], and when finished it will look like this > [2]. > > On 07/29/2009 08:00:11 AM, Chris Morgan wrote: > > The whole website redesign to Drupal project seems to have gone stale; my > > suggestion is that I take it over and come up with something. > If people are interested in a drupal theme, there were some good draft designs from the deivant art contest<http://inkscapers.deviantart.com/journal/17274523/?offset=0#comments>, one of which I made a HTML mockup of<http://mr-imaginative.deviantart.com/art/Inkscape-org-redesign-markup-97029…>. I've done another mockup of another design<http://noveltybeard.co.cc/inkscape/>(better, IMHO), too, but bear in mind they're just mockups! There was talk of having a drupal theme that would allow the viewer to select different stylesheets, so maybe these could help here. Also, it'd be nice if there is any theme work to post it on inkscape.org or somewhere, so the community doesn't have to subscribe to -devel to know about it :) Thanks, Dave.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] InkscapeForum.com for offer to Inkscape.org
by Mark T 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

I do not want to distract from the possible solve Chris's Drupal offer may provide. Though I've been distracted myself with the prospect of doing an svg based forum design. I've seen so many excellent things in Inkscape. I have been provoked into working on a web-store for Inkscape files. (A separate thread). ..Back to the forum. So: ------------------------------------- Such a design would use as much Inkscape as possible/applicable. Certainly a delightful prospect! Should present reasonable forum expectations. Should be as backend-agnostic as possible. Which could mean the use of xml + xsl => svg 'portions'. Be using a browser target priority of 1) Firefox 3.5... ... see Browser notes below. Use animation where applicable, fakeSMIL <script> if necessarry. There are significant javascript hooks in Inkscape so that xml+xsl transformations can be small routines in javascript. Browser notes: ------------------ Firefox + fakeSMIL = ok. Opera = ok. Safari = ok. IE + firefox plugin = ok. (http://www.savarese.com/software/svgplugin/). (Really, if an ie user is not ok with this, then can download Firefox portable). Pragmatically speaking, interest in Inkscape implies readiness to be .this. flexible. There will be some script isues. Some can be avoided by using x-browser 'modules'. eg For xhttprequest, xsl transformations. Auth notes: -------------- OpenID as an Auth agent. Others to follow. Other technical mechanics: --------------------------------- Small data references & text can be 'POST'ed to an OpenID'd session. XML + XSL can be xhttpRequest 'GET'ed. This can be the basis of a xml+xsl delivery mechanism. ======================================================== ? MarkT -- チェックアウトが、Jingle だ! It's a Jingle Out There!

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] InkscapeForum.com for offer to Inkscape.org
by Jarosław Foksa 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Hi, I should have my basic theme ported to Drupal during this weekend. It currently looks like this [1], and when finished it will look like this [2]. Could I use inkscape.org/drupal as a test site? I would need account with privileges to create content and custom views and to upload template files. [1] http://wstaw.org/p/23da [2] http://wstaw.org/p/23ddOn PS, sorry for double-posting. On 07/29/2009 08:00:11 AM, Chris Morgan wrote: > The whole website redesign to Drupal project seems to have gone stale; my > suggestion is that I take it over and come up with something. The pertinent > detail for this discussion is that then we could use Drupal forums, which in > my opinion are the best available; as an example of a good implementation > (though I had nothing to do with it), our forums at > PortableApps.com<http://portableapps.com/forums>. > I've got the Drupal experience necessary to do the theming and site setup, > and am coming up with a design based on one of the others submitted in the > original DeviantArt topic. If you like, I'll continue on making a prototype > and provide a test site online.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Win32 NSIS installer
by Chris Morgan 29 Jul '09

29 Jul '09

Forgot that the Inkscape mailing list defaults to replying only to the sender rather than the list... On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Chris Morgan <chris.morganiser@...400...>wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Adib taraben <theadib@...1439...>wrote: > >> Hello Chris, >> I did the most recent changes in the installer. I welcome any help and >> advise. >> I made a wiki page >> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Win32_Installer but this might >> not be up to date. > > I'll check that out later today, going to school as soon as I've written > this. > > Things that where on my agenda are: >> - let the user choose language: there is an issue in launchpad > > I can do that easily, and will do so. > > - check what is needed for a portable apps package > > Inkscape Portable <http://portableapps.com/node/19503>, which I work on at > PortableApps.com edition is perfect, except for the GTK file chooser bug > mentioned, which leaves a file behind in APPDATA. While I can fix that in > the launcher, it's more difficult and complex than it should ever need to > be, and fixing it upstream is better. > > - create a msi package: there is an issue in launchpad > > I don't think that this is a good idea; an NSIS installer is better all > round in my opinion, and it's what we've already got. I'm not aware of any > benefits we could get from having an MSI package. > > I also remembered a couple of other things; the uninstall log file stuff, I > can simplify that also with FileFunc macros, and will do that later. The > other thing is a question - why is "-1" appended to the installer filename, > e.g. inkscape-0.46+devel-1.exe? > > I'll continue with my next stages of development on it, and then send what > I've got around again, and it should be ready for commit (it's already ready > for commit, I'm just not finished with it). > > > Thanks, > > Chris Morgan <chris.morganiser@...400...> > > > I don't need a quote in my signature. It's hard enough surviving as it is > without having to find a meaningful quote. Will you forgive me? Or don't > you read this bit? >

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Win32 NSIS installer
by Josh Andler 28 Jul '09

28 Jul '09

Excellent stuff! I agree that on Windows it would be good to not install all languages by default. I'd suggest you taking this a little further to your liking and we'll get it committed. Cheers, Josh On Jul 28, 2009 4:55 AM, "Chris Morgan" <chris.morganiser@...400...> wrote: Hi all, Today I decided to take a look at the NSIS installer for Win32, and decided to optimise it. It currently uses a macro and function for reading options from the command line. Since then, FileFunc.nsh has had added to it the GetParameters and GetOptions macros, which make the code inside the installer obsolete. I was amused to see that the option-reading code was made by (a different) Chris Morgan in 2004! For your assurance that I hopefully know what I'm doing, I have had lots of NSIS experience, mainly at PortableApps.com, where our launchers and installer are in NSIS. NSIS is an area I can help in, unlike the one I wanted to do more, https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/398603, which I'd like to fix but can't really. I also optimised readability and similar through the use of LogicLib's logical code structures. I cleaned up the language sections significantly, using a single macro rather than a section for each, containing a macro. In all of them, polng was equal to lng, with the exception of Japanese which had, incorrectly, jp rather than ja for lng. lng was only used for "..\..\inkscape\*.${lng}.txt" anyway - a mask which matches no files for any language. I'd propose that that line be vanquished as it's not used (historical?). In the meantime, I simplified it into one argument for the two. More on languages later. While doing this I found about half a dozen minor bugs, all of which I've fixed. Starting at line 1382 (old), that set of things had the conditions the wrong way around, so it would only print the detail if it was *empty*, rather than if it was something... utterly insignificant, but a bug :D More importantly, all the code around that section was inefficient, I rearranged it to make it more efficient. Also the deleting HKCU\.svg[z] thing was looking for the wrong thing, fixed that. The biggest bug I found was that single-user installations didn't work (at least judging by the code). The shell var context had been formerly set to "all", and the all users section set it to "all" and had a bit of code which wouldn't ever get executed. I got around this the easiest way, which was just to create an unshown section before it to SetShellVarContext current. All in all, I took it down from 1559 lines (47,874 bytes) to 930 lines (34,534 bytes) (60% of the lines, 72% of the filesize), shrunk the installer output by about 25KB (0.07% :P), fixed some bugs and made it more readable in the process. Now for some discussion on what I reckon having looked at it. Languages: I can optimise those still further, just thought I'd send round what I'd got so far. In particular, I want to change it so that no languages are installed by default; this would speed up installation on Windows exponentially - due to the LZMA solid compression used, each language takes an inordinate time to install. I think I can fix that up too, but I'll need to experiment on it a bit. Moving the files first should help in the technique... I'll try it out and report back. However, back on the main topic, I want to change it so English is not shown on the list (it's really pretty meaningless, it's an empty section... and the SectionGroup is "Translations" of the interface, English is pretty much a given), and so that the only language which is installed is that which the installer is running in. I can do that easily enough. Possibly also the MUI LANGDLL should be displayed to let the user choose the initial language. Presets: we've got the SectionIn 1 2 3 bits all over the place, but aren't using the presets at all (any more I guess from commented out code). I think they should be added back, that way you can have all languages in full, the suggested one in optimal and none in minimal. Also I think that quick launch and desktop icons should be on by default. Start menu: currently this is forced on, in a set location, which isn't very nice. We should use the MUI STARTMENU stuff. I also think that a lot of the DetailPrint bits should be cleaned up to either be removed or so they can be more useful. The welcome and finish pages should get their own images, I'll make a proposal for it. Also the header image should get the new logo; likewise I can do that. Right, I think that's enough for now, though I've probably forgotten something I was going to say, and missed a bug or two I fixed. -- Chris Morgan <chris.morganiser@...400...> I don't need a quote in my signature. It's hard enough surviving as it is without having to find a meaningful quote. Will you forgive me? Or don't you read this bit? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. 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Help with Novice hack
by Patrick 28 Jul '09

28 Jul '09

I created a crude Python script that took an svg drawing, created a bunch of copies with sequential numbering(000001.svg 000002.svg etc) and then the script modified elements within each frame. I then converted them to PNGs to in turn become an animation via Mencoder. Although my program works, it's still pretty much junk because it is such pain to use. I am teaching myself C/C++, I I thought I would try to redo it in C or C++ for programming practice and hopefully improve it as well. So to get to the point(sorry for the ramble) I was wondering if there is a standard C or C++ library (XML based I guess?)that Inkscape uses for SVG manipulation? On the of chance that my coding yields something useful I love to share it, so I might as well start with something that is already being used. Finally I am also not very good at Javascript. I was thinking that I could write a javascript program to refresh a browser so that each svg frame would be displayed in turn to preview the coming animation, transforming the SVG frames to PNGs is a pain. Does anyone know a javascript function that would help achieve this? Sorry if these questions are dumb.... -Patrick

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