October 2012 - Inkscape Devel

Font Narrow, Condensed etc.
by Jelle 18 Oct '12

18 Oct '12

David, I've been a graphics designer since 1994 using a plethora of software for graphics design. My guess is that this styling parameter is related to the use of SVG fonts, rather than ttf, ott, woff or type1. Most of the latter have such a wide variety of badly characterized font sets, that you can negate the setting. During all my years a s a designer I certainly never let such settings decide what font to use and most of the time a condensed or narrow letter is defined in a special font, doing only that, but often in italic and bold as well as normal. For SVG fonts however, it would make sense, as you have much more control over SVG fonts than over any of the others through the SVG interpreter implementation. As SVG fonts are not really all that supported (Mozilla stubbornly refuses to implement even SVG fonts Tiny for whatever reason), the style setting wont have much use at this moment. I don't think Inkscape should try to support it at this time within its current tool set. I'd much rather have a limited support of SVG fonts for that matter, so designers can finally make their show cases to send to those MF's at Mozilla and press them to finally support the SVG standard. Jelle Mulder > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:01:12 -0700 > From: mathog <mathog@...1176...> > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Narrow/Condensed fonts, font-stretch, any > real utility? > To: <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: <4dfdde417aaefcf72737d2566a645718@...2855...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > SVG style has a font-stretch parameter, however, as near as I can tell > it does not do anything. Set it to Normal or Condensed > and nothing changes, for either "Arial" or "Arial Narrow". When a > condensed font (Arial Narrow) is specified font-stretch says "Normal" > even though the font used is actually condensed. Just to make life > really miserable, FontConfig matches "Arial Narrow" on linux to > "DejaSans", it only gives "DejaVuSansCondensed" if the font name used is > "Arial Narrow:width=75" or "Arial:width=75". Near as I can tell > Inkscape does not pick up from the font name alone that "Arial Narrow" > is a condensed font. It is possible to force > the issue by editing the SVG to > > font-family:Arial Narrow:width=75; > > in style, in which font-stretch will be set to Condensed. However on > linux it is of little use because both of the Deja fonts are so much > wider than "Arial Narrow" that the rendered text invariably overruns > whatever text follows it. (This was with separate <text> sections, > imported from an EMF file. If the pieces are put together with > sequential <tspan>s then the text shifts around, but it does not > overlap.) > > Copying the Arial Narrow file ARIALN.TTF from a Windows system to the > linux font directory let Inkscape render text in that font at the proper > size, but this isn't a general solution since it isn't a "free" font. > > Other SVG viewers (ie, Firefox) also seem to be mostly "miss" when it > comes to rendering condensed/font-stretch SVG. > > What's the consensus - is this style parameter supposed to do more, in > particular, emulate somehow a narrow or wide font from the base font? > Is it best to just avoid condensed fonts altogether? > > Thanks, > > David Mathog > mathog@...1176... > Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech > > >

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by pennec victor 16 Oct '12

16 Oct '12

Hi, Did anybody reply to the message I sent the 2012-10-09 23:28 ? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=CABe4m%3DzWXss3Qbp… When I browse the sourceforge html interface (which sucks by the way) I see the following 1 message has been excluded from this view by a project administrator. If my message doesn't fit in the rules of the mailing list could you give me some pointers to other sites I could find any help. Thank you. V.

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GTK+ 3 in devlibs?
by Alex Valavanis 16 Oct '12

16 Oct '12

Hi All, Is there a way of adding GTK+ 3 (and compatible libs) in Devlibs without breaking GTK+ 2 compatibility? As far as I know, there isn't a way of testing GTK+ 3 experimental builds in Windows. Presumably, DLLs have some sort of equivalent to SO-naming to allow multiple ABI-incompatible versions of a library to be provided? Cheers, AV

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removing/adding childs in _build(...)
by Johan Engelen 16 Oct '12

16 Oct '12

Hi all, For backwards compatibility with old-style guides, we want to convert the old-style guides to new-style in sp_namedview_build. Removing the old-style guides from XML and adding new ones works fine, however, this is not represented at all in the SPObject tree. After removing the old-style guides, the SPObjects are still in memory and hooked up to namedview. Also, adding new guides to XML does not create SPObjects belonging to them. This all works fine outside sp_namedview_build (the mechanism is used in hundreds of places in the code), but for some reason does not work within sp_namedview_build. Is that expected behavior? Where should we move the conversion code to? Cheers, Johan

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mpath animateMotion (message resent)
by unknown＠example.com 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

This message resent due to html formatting issues..... I have a situation with using the animateMotionelement. Somehow the path to follow seems off. For example. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>  <svg xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#" xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#" xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:sodipodi="http://sodipodi.sourceforge.net/DTD/sodipodi-0.dtd" xmlns:inkscape="http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" > width="744.09448819" height="1052.3622047" id="svg2" version="1.1" inkscape:version="0.48.3.1 r9886" sodipodi:docname="New document 1"> <defs id="defs4" /> <sodipodi:namedview id="base" pagecolor="#ffffff" bordercolor="#666666" borderopacity="1.0" inkscape:pageopacity="0.0" inkscape:pageshadow="2" inkscape:zoom="0.35" inkscape:cx="-262.14286" inkscape:cy="514.28571" inkscape:document-units="px" inkscape:current-layer="layer1" showgrid="false" inkscape:window-width="1680" inkscape:window-height="995" inkscape:window-x="0" inkscape:window-y="0" inkscape:window-maximized="1" /> <metadata id="metadata7"> <rdf:RDF> <cc:Work rdf:about=""> <dc:format>image/svg+xml</dc:format> <dc:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/dcmitype/StillImage" /> <dc:title></dc:title> </cc:Work> </rdf:RDF> </metadata> <g inkscape:label="Layer 1" inkscape:groupmode="layer" id="layer1"> <path sodipodi:type="arc" id="big" sodipodi:cx="367.14285" sodipodi:cy="333.79074" sodipodi:rx="132.85715" sodipodi:ry="115.71429" d="m 500,333.79074 a 132.85715,115.71429 0 1 1 -265.71429,0 132.85715,115.71429 0 1 1 265.71429,0 z" style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:2.0999999;stroke-miterlimit:4;stroke-opacity:1;stroke-dasharray:none" transform="matrix(0.80424543,0,0,0.80424543,45.656955,42.48392)" inkscape:label="#path2985" /> <path sodipodi:type="arc" style="fill:none;stroke:#000000;stroke-width:2.0999999;stroke-miterlimit:4;stroke-opacity:1;stroke-dasharray:none" id="small" sodipodi:cx="404.28571" sodipodi:cy="765.2193" sodipodi:rx="58.57143" sodipodi:ry="58.57143" d="m 462.85714,765.2193 a 58.57143,58.57143 0 1 1 -117.14286,0 58.57143,58.57143 0 1 1 117.14286,0 z" transform="matrix(0.56870733,0,0,0.56870733,37.222609,150.03348)" inkscape:label="#path3755"> <animateMotion dur="6s" repeatCount="indefinite" rotate="0" > <mpath xlink:href="#big"/> </animateMotion> </path> </g> </svg> Why does the small ellipse not follow the path of the larger one?

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mpath animateMotion
by unknown＠example.com 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

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Regression in Filters Blend mode
by Ivan Louette 15 Oct '12

15 Oct '12

Inkscape 0.48+devel r11799 (on Kubuntu 12.04) is unable to apply Blend to an object laying on top of another (on the same layer) despite my template which specify enable background:new It's a fairly new problem because I use the same template with previous rev on 12.04 without problems ivan

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question about filter/arithmetic
by pennec victor 09 Oct '12

09 Oct '12

Hi, I hope it's ok to post the following test case to get your opinion. It's about filter/arithmetic. 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Mono L;-inkscape-font-specification:Nimbus Mono L"><tspan x="439.14066" y="534.1272" id="tspan4691">!= Expected</tspan></text> <text x="415.90714" y="321.99515" id="text4705" xml:space="preserve" style="font-size:48px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#f64a00;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Nimbus Mono L;-inkscape-font-specification:Nimbus Mono L"><tspan x="415.90714" y="321.99515" id="tspan4707">OK</tspan></text> <text x="479.18304" y="428.90924" transform="scale(0.77351912,1.2927929)" id="text4851" xml:space="preserve" style="font-size:10.02463627px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;line-height:125%;letter-spacing:0px;word-spacing:0px;fill:#f64a00;fill-opacity:1;stroke:none;font-family:Nimbus Mono L;-inkscape-font-specification:Nimbus Mono L"><tspan x="479.18304" y="428.90924" id="tspan4853">in Inkscape 0.48.3.1 r9886 </tspan><tspan x="479.18304" y="441.44003" id="tspan5969">it looks like the background </tspan></text> </g> </svg> Thank you

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] B-spline help
by Jabier Arraiza Zenoz 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

B-Spline needs a person who speak english and spanish to coordinate the development. If has programing basic is perfect. Now B-Spline team are Arshdeep Singh and myself, and we have problems whith the traslations in between. Anyboy whant to help?

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About splash
by John Smith 08 Oct '12

08 Oct '12

The "Help->About Inkscape" splash can be slow to render and has given some users the impression that Inkscape is therefore slow. One option is to replace the splash rendering with a static image in release builds. A downside of this is maintaining and adding a ~200Kb image to the package. But at some stage Inkscape may get a startup splash anyway ... Any interest in adding a static splash image ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/253219

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