December 2016 - Inkscape Devel

Survey Published!
by Victor Westmann 04 Dec '16

04 Dec '16

Ok! So against all odds I went ahead and published my personal, independent and unofficial Inkscape survey! I tried LimeSurvey, SurveyMonkey and some others but they all had annoying limitations (needed to be a subscriber, accepted only 100 answers, allowed me to write only 10 questions (or so)) and those services were not working out for me. So I went ahead and published 9 questions Inkscape users should answer to fill my own survey. Don't you guys be worried I'll take all the onus to process and show this data later. I MADE SURE TO STATE THAT THE SURVEY IS INDEPENDENT AND UNOFFICIAL. So, again, no worries. The name of the community was not used by me by any means. :-) I published in Twitter, Facebook communities (a few) and Google Plus. Please take a look: https://goo.gl/forms/ttE6iB2IE7VCqtnb2 The reason I'm using Google Forms is because it's easy for people to submit their answers, questions look good and all the survey takes less than 1 minute to answer. Hope you all have an amazing weekend! --Victor Westmann

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missed meeting
by brynn 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Hi Friends, Sorry for missing the board meeting yesterday. Since it was only announced a day ahead, and I happened not to be online Thursday, I just didn't see it in time. Looking at http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings it doesn't indicate that the meeting is held (a) monthly (30 days) or (b) every 4 weeks, or (c) first Friday of every month, or (d) other. It just gives the date of the next meeting. If we could set it up on any kind of regular routine, we could individually set up reminders locally. This might be even better than posting a custom time/date for me (as well as doctormon). Because I might forget to look at that page. But if I have a reminder popping up on my own desktop, I won't miss that! But the best reason for setting a regularly occuring meeting time/date, is that no one has to remember to remind everyone else. I've read the transcript, and just wanted to fill in a couple of issues about the forum. First, regarding the suggestion to use HostGator as a host (I guess was suggesting because it could be no cost), if I typed 10 lines of no-no-no-no-no-no-no- it wouldn't be enough! Correct, nothing is overtly blocking on the forum project. While OSUOSL has still not given us a firm "yes" or "no", we've been operating as if it's going to be yes (while still looking at other options). Specifically we're waiting for 1 or 2 things. Technically, OSUOSL has asked me for the size of the attachments folder (the one that's outside of the DBs), which I've asked Courtney for (twice now, and I guess it's time for a 2nd reminder). Presumably they need that before they could give us a firm "yes" or "no" on hosting the forum. However, they seem to be having some internal problems (personnel-wise, I think), and they seem just as happy to wait as long we're content to wait. It would be nice if Courtney could give us the first set of DBs and whatever other files are needed, so we could practice installing. As soon as he does that, we can inform OSUOSL about the size of that file (because that file will be included in what Courtney sends us). However, I suspect that OSUOSL can get a general enough idea about how much space we'll need, without knowing the specific size of that file. I think it's more their internal issues that is holding up the "yes" or "no". And the way it's going with Courtney's response time, we might get an answer from OSUOSL before we get the first backups. And that wouldn't be a bad thing, because then Courtney could securely load everything directly. My next action item is to send Courtney another reminder, which I'll do shortly. Mihaela, my server has just been upgraded, and now I could give you your own access (without sharing mine). You might be able to figure out how to give him secure access to a single directory. I can see how to give him FTP access to a single dir, but I still think there is a need for security (SFTP or SSH) and I don't see that. But you might understand something that I don't. Plus, my host gave me an OK on setting up a new domain or sub-domain, so we could even test it live. Although if you'd still rather do it yourself locally, that's fine too. But I wanted to mention the new options. Apologies for missing the meeting, brynn

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Website Data Use
by Martin Owens 03 Dec '16

03 Dec '16

Here is the latest inkscape.org cache use between 2014 and November 2016. https://inkscape.org/en/~doctormo/%E2%98%85fastly-cache-use-2014-to-201 6 You can see we use 40TB per month, an awful lot. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Winner: About screen contest
by C R 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

An option to turn it off in preferences would be fine with me, but it auto-disappears when the GUI loads... So I'm not getting why folks think it would be a burden? It's not like it would add any notable time to the startup. Maybe a fraction of a second? Part of good UX is to let the user know what's happening if there is a wait involved. The faster you show the user something, the faster the program feels. This isn't just some tradition, and it's certainly not just a Windows thing. :) My 2p. -C On 1 Dec 2016 9:34 pm, "Bryce Harrington" <bryce@...961...> wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:53:48PM +0100, Tobias Ellinghaus wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2016, 13:36:13 CET schrieb Martin Owens: > > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 14:23 +0000, C R wrote: > > > > Will this graphic be featured on the loading screen as well (when > > > > it's implemented)? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > The about screen graphic will also be featured on the inkscape.org home > > > page and on some merchandise in the shop. The shop stuff will have to > > > be tested to get it right. > > > > How long does Inkscape take to start for you? Here it's coming up basically > > instantaneous. So I wonder if a loading screen is really needed, or if the > > work to add that should maybe be spent in fixing slowness in startup instead, > > like caching icons, querying fonts in a separate thread, ... > > Inkscape also starts up acceptably fast for me on my system, and > I would not like to see it burdened with a startup screen. But I know > it is considered traditional and fairly common on Windows. I am -1 to > adding it in general (I'd rather see attention going into speeding up > the load), but would be open to a compromise of having a build option to > enable/disable it, and leave it to packagers to decide whether to have > it or not for the platform in particular. > > Bryce > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Winner: About screen contest
by Martin Owens 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Thanks for everyone's vote, the results are as follows: 1. https://inkscape.org/en/~artelnjeru01/%E2%98%85about-092-2-good (#4) 2. https://inkscape.org/en/~Mikhael/%E2%98%85space-inkscape (#1) 3. https://inkscape.org/en/~artelnjeru01/%E2%98%85about-092-11 (#2) 4. https://inkscape.org/en/~bajinra/%E2%98%85draw-freely-in-sticker-sty le (#3) Congratulations to artelnjeru01! Please pass around the good news to all. The entrants this year were really VERY good, even those that didn't make this round of voting. I'm going to leave the committing of the winning entry to the repository to someone else. If you'd like to do this job, please download the svg directly from the above link. We can select a developer's about screen for trunk too, any of the entrants can be considered and I don't think we need a vote on that. Or we can keep the machine robot we have now, both are good. Best Regards, Martin Owens Voting details, instant runoff vote: { 'tie_breaker': ['4', '2', '3', '1'], 'winner': '4', 'voters': 16, 'quota': 9, 'candidates': set(['1', '3', '2', '4']), 'rounds': [ { 'tallies': {'1': 5.0, '3': 3.0, '2': 3.0, '4': 5.0}, 'tied_losers': set(['3', '2']), 'loser': '3' }, { 'tallies': {'1': 6.0, '2': 3.0, '4': 7.0}, 'loser': '2' }, { 'tallies': {'1': 6.0, '4': 9.0}, 'winner': '4' } ] }

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Inkscape Board Meeting Nov 4th
by Bryce Harrington 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Meeting time this Friday, Nov 1st at noon Pacific in #inkscape-devel. Everyone's more than welcome to attend! http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings Agenda: * SVG 2 news [Tav] * Merchandise sales [bryce] - Spreadshirt account's ready to go - Next need shirt designs * Sponsorship levels followup [bryce] * Inkscape forum followup SFC has been kind enough to establish the Spreadshirt account for us; next step is to arrange login access for administrators. If this sounds interesting please come to the meeting, or contact me directly. Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape Board Meeting Dec 2nd
by C R 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Possibly, though I think we should rather not make a contest for something as permanent as this. Don't mind collecting renditions, but having a contest implies a winner will be chosen from the things submitted, and feelings might get hurt if no one is chosen. So I'd say let's wait until we have (internally), something we can live with, and then it can go in with the other submissions, so at least we have a fall back just in case. -C On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Marker <info@...2893...> wrote: > I think, if web team is not exausted, it could be cool a Inky contest. > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 08:05 +0000, C R wrote: >> I don't have the inky mockups done for this one. I'll try to have >> them >> done by the next one. >> Thanks for the patience. Busy time of year for me! >> -C >> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bryce Harrington >> <bryce@...961...> wrote: >> > The Inkscape Board will hold its monthly meeting this Friday, Dec >> > 2nd at >> > noon Pacific in #inkscape-devel. Any community member is welcome >> > to >> > attend! >> > >> > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings >> > >> > Agenda: >> > * Merchandise sales [bryce] >> > * Sponsorship levels followup [bryce] >> > * Inkscape forum followup >> > * Mesh gradient feature followup [tav] >> > >> > Bryce >> > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > ------------- >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inkscape-devel mailing list >> > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-devel mailing list >> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape Board Meeting Dec 2nd
by Jabier Arraiza 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Anyway is good be sure we have one thats feet the min requeriments. Maybe this one can be the base, exposing the SVG and the contest is fork it. Cheers, Jabier On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 12:01 +0100, Marker wrote: > Maybe we can do a contest with 8 2turn winers to get more options for > final result. > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 10:47 +0000, C R wrote: > > Possibly, though I think we should rather not make a contest for > > something as permanent as this. > > Don't mind collecting renditions, but having a contest implies a > > winner will be chosen from the things submitted, and feelings might > > get hurt if no one is chosen. > > So I'd say let's wait until we have (internally), something we can > > live with, and then it can go in with the other submissions, so at > > least we have a fall back just in case. > > > > -C > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Marker <info@...2893...> wrote: > > > I think, if web team is not exausted, it could be cool a Inky > > > contest. > > > > > > On Thu, 2016-12-01 at 08:05 +0000, C R wrote: > > > > I don't have the inky mockups done for this one. I'll try to > > > > have > > > > them > > > > done by the next one. > > > > Thanks for the patience. Busy time of year for me! > > > > -C > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bryce Harrington > > > > <bryce@...961...> wrote: > > > > > The Inkscape Board will hold its monthly meeting this Friday, > > > > > Dec > > > > > 2nd at > > > > > noon Pacific in #inkscape-devel. Any community member is > > > > > welcome > > > > > to > > > > > attend! > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings > > > > > > > > > > Agenda: > > > > > * Merchandise sales [bryce] > > > > > * Sponsorship levels followup [bryce] > > > > > * Inkscape forum followup > > > > > * Mesh gradient feature followup [tav] > > > > > > > > > > Bryce > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > ---- > > > > > ------------- > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > ---- > > > > ----------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------- > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Including BSD-Licenced code in Inkscape
by Alexander Brock 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Hi, TLDR: I want to include 3-clause BSD licenced code in Inkscape. I want to improve curve fitting in Inkscape. I was told that Inkscape uses the GSL for root finding etc. so I thought I might implement curve fitting using the headers <gsl/gsl_multifit_nlinear.h> This works but I'd like to improve it by providing derivatives to the solver instead of relying on numerical differentiation. I researched Autodiff tools and found that most require libraries which are difficult to build on windows. At work I use Ceres solver. I extracted the autodiff code (jet.h) from the source code and modified slightly so it works without futher dependencies. Ceres is licenced under the 3-clause BSD licence: http://ceres-solver.org/license.html May I include the modified source code in Inkscape? Best Regards, Alexander

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Contest Results and Developer Voting
by Martin Owens 01 Dec '16

01 Dec '16

Dear developers, The about screen contest for 0.92 is complete and we have our three runner ups for us developers to choose from: https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=about-screen-contest/contest-for-092+0 / Each of the three are marked as "Next Round", please email to the mailing list with your choices. Simply put your numbers in order of preference, so 3214 would mean 3 is my first choice, 2 is my second choice etc. You don't have to rank all numbers if you don't want to. You'll notice that I've chosen 4 items, this is because 1 and 3 are so similar and I wanted to give us a better choice. Thanks to all our artists and voters, I think this round has been really good. I actually voted for "Ngarai Sianok" and a lot of people loved "Freedom Machine" (see comments on those items). So I'll be adding a few of these to the website front page when 0.92 is released, to replace the current set of images. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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