Re: [Inkscape-devel] [googlefonts-discuss] Re: Variable Fonts support in Inkscape
by Felipe Sanches
I left this aside for the past 6 months and recently got back to looking at
it.
I think the most trivial thing would be to populate the font-styles
combo-box with named instances. This would be almost not perceptible by the
users, but would enable variable fonts' instances to show up there just
like their non-variable counterparts do.
Then there's the customization aspect of varfonts. For that, I think the
bare minimum would be a bunch of sliders for selecting the coordinates of
each variation axis. I feel that there must be something better than that
form a user experience perspective, but I'm still not sure what would that
be, so I'd leave it for a second iteration of the UI.
Also, since one can get a multitude of combinations within the designspace,
I think it could be practical to adopt a UI workflow similar to that of
color gradients, in which once a user-defined instance is applied to a text
chunk, that instance is added to a pool of var font instances that can be
reused in other chunks of texto within the document. A shared varfont would
then, upon tweaking of its design space coordiantes, affect all portions of
the document where it was used.
Finally, and this is not a varfont specific issue, I feel the urge to
improve the basic text support in Inkscape in general. Yes, I know this is
a somewhat vague statement. The overall direction I'd like to follow,
though, would likely be something similar to the insightful ideas that are
expressed in this article:
https://medium.com/@getflourish/the-anatomy-of-a-thousand-typefaces-f7b90...
cheers,
Felipe Sanches
2018-03-06 11:27 GMT-03:00 Pathum Egodawatta <pathumego@...400...>:
> Hi Filipe!
>
> Hope you are doing well. Thanks for taking this on! would be aweosme to
> have the VF support.
>
> Whats new in this? I would love to know more about the UI interactions and
> tooltips.
>
> Cheers,
> Pathum
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 1:18:41 AM UTC+5:30, Felipe Sanches wrote:
>>
>> I'm working on implementing Opentype Variable fonts support in Inkscape
>> (based on a mix of pango and harfbuzz APIs).
>>
>> While testing the current pango-based text handling implementation in
>> Inkscape I tried to edit some arabic text (with several ligatures,
>> naturally) and I ended up finding a crasher bug. I have just reported it at:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1694323
>>
>> I'll be using this thread to liberally report ongoing progress on this
>> effort.
>>
>> happy hacking,
>> Felipe Sanches
>>
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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
by Martin Owens
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 11:32 -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Yes, still upload the end-user downloadable content to the website.
> We have mirroring and caching set up there.
>
> Feel free to also copy the source tarball to the website.
A bit unfair to ask Eduard to do this, if the website isn't letting you
deploy files easily, then that's a tooling issue we can fix.
But I can't fix it if the social protocol is to not ask for help and
instead figure out a technical workaround.
Regards, Martin, Website guy who can help
5 years, 2 months
[RESEND] inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
by Bryce Harrington
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Subject: inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
The 0.92.3pre0 pre-release source tarball is ready for packaging. It
can be downloaded from:
http://alpha.inkscape.org/releases/inkscape-0.92.3pre0.tar.bz2
The 0.92.x branch should now be considered in Hard Freeze + String Freeze.
Please touch base with me for any changes to code or translations from
now until release.
---
I'm late as usual with cutting the release, but other than that things
have gone smoothly. I would very much appreciate if people could build
and test and give me a thumbs up if everything looks normal. If no
serious issues crop up I will cut the final release next weekend.
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5 years, 2 months
Re: [Inkscape-devel] (re-)Introducing: ink/stitch, machine embroidery for Inkscape
by Lex Neva
On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 12:26 +0000, inkscape-devel-request@...349...
orge.net wrote:
> Very cool Lex,
> I know you mentioned translations, but I'm curious about what other
> issues you've hit being an extension that is distributed separately
> from Inkscape. We've talked a bunch about how to decouple the release
> cycle of extensions and the core, but I'm not sure that we understand
> all of the problems.
I'm so glad you asked! There are a few rough edges that we had to work
around.
In fact, one of them just came up: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitc
h/issues/18#issuecomment-370301197. In that thread, we're talking
about creating a PDF printout feature that shows the colors used in a
design and the order they sew in. My original plan was to use the
nifty, growing list of features in the command-line interface for
Inkscape. My understanding is that these features are provided
specifically to act as a "standard library" of functionality that can
be used by extensions.
The problem with this is that extensions don't know where the Inkscape
binary is. I can imagine writing code to guess, or perhaps look at the
parent process, but trying to support Linux, Windows, and Mac sounds
like a nightmare. End result: ink/stitch can't use this functionality.
Another rough edge is that extensions don't know where the current SVG
file is stored on disk. We can access the file's basename, but not the
directory. This is kind of annoying because ink/stitch wants to output
a machine embroidery design file (.DST, .PES, etc). ink/stitch works
around this by storing all of these files in a set "output directory"
specified by the user, but this is obviously not ideal. Here's where
one of our users/contributors discusses his desire for the design file
to save alongside the SVG: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitch/issues/
75
I gather that Inkscape did previously store the directory, but it was
removed due to privacy concerns. Perhaps the directory can be included
in the SVG _only_ when communicating with an extension, not when
saving? Another possibility is that the embroidery design output
functionality could be an "output" extension, but I haven't played with
that. I'm under the impression that the user would have to choose a
folder and file name every time they wanted to save using an output
plugin, which would be a prohibitively bad user experience for
ink/stitch since it's common to repeatedly re-render the design file
until you get it right.
"Dependency hell" is another big issue for extensions. Pyinstaller is
very promising as a solution to this problem! I highly recommend
mentioning it in the inkscape extension documentation. Trying to
explain to users how to install python modules required by an extension
is destined for failure. On Windows and Mac, the problem is even
worse, as Inkscape bundles its own Python. It's very confusing for
users that they can do `pip install -r requirements.txt` but then
inkstitch still can't load its dependencies, because they didn't
install the requirements in Inkscape's bundled Python. Installing
modules for Windows's Python is especially complex.
Ultimately, we desire a completely smooth, painless installation
process for our users. Currently, installation involves downloading a
ZIP/tarball and uncompressing it in Inkscape's extensions
directory. This is pretty smooth, and we could refine it even more by
distributing it as a self-extracting installer. Anything more complex
than uncompressing an archive risks losing users before they even try
our extension.
One final thing: Inkscape's extension model is powerful and nifty, but
of course it's also limiting. We've gone to a lot of lengths to work
around this limitation, including popping up an entire UI of our own in
one of ink/stitch's bundled extensions. Still, we constantly bump into
the inability to integrate more directly with Inkscape, by adding tools
or the like. I'm sure you've encountered this idea before. :) If
Inkscape introduces such functionality, we'll be among the first to try
it out.
> Also, do you have any pictures of something embroidered using the
> extension? I saw the screencasts but I'd love to see the objects they
> resulted in as well.
> Ted
Sure! Here's a sampling of my favorite patches that I've made using
ink/stitch:
https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitch/tree/master/images/patches
5 years, 2 months
[RESEND] Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting
by Bryce Harrington
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Subject: Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting
Transcript from meeting:
http://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/board_meeting_2018-0...
New action items:
==== Budget 2018 ====
♢ ACTION: Increase amount allocated to hackfests and post a v2 for
the budget [bryce]
==== Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association ====
♢ ACTION: Find two (or three?) Inkscape people to send to the
Color/Scribus meeting to learn about how we could do better color
management with Inkscape.
==== Boston Hackfest ====
♢ ACTION: Send Hackfest invites to oldtimers [Tavmjong]
==== Other Business ====
♢ ACTION: Investigate Fastly invoice charges [scislac,bryce]
Previous action items:
♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of
Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers]
♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and
general sponsorship options [bryce]
♦ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous
contributors) to attend the hackfest. [Tavmjong]
♦ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for
hackfest. [bryce]
♦ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then
email bryce for help [crogers]
♦ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs
[bryce,tedg]
♦ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more
attendees [Tavmjong]
♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for
support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team]
♦ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce]
♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav]
♦ ACTION: Decide what oldtimers to send hackfest invites to [bryce]
♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface]
Bryce
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 08:48:27AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Our monthly board meeting is scheduled for this Friday, Mar 2nd,
> at 10am Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members are welcome.
>
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
>
> (Note that a Release Team meeting will follow immediately after.
> The Vectors Team will be meeting the next day.)
>
>
> Agenda:
>
> + Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association
> + Boston Hackfest (March) [doctormo]
> + Merchandise sales [crogers]
> + Board election process review [tedg]
> + Infrastructure hosting [bryce]
> + LGM 2018 [Tav]
> + GSoC [ScislaC]
> + Other Business
>
>
> Action Items from last meeting:
>
> ♢ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav]
> ♢ ACTION: Send invites to old Inkscapers to attend hackfest [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface]
> ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of
> Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers]
> ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and
> general sponsorship options [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous
> contributors) to attend the hackfest. [tedg]
> ♢ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for
> hackfest. [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then
> email bryce for help [crogers]
> ♢ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs
> [bryce,tedg]
> ♢ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more
> attendees [Tavmjong]
> ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for
> support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team]
>
>
> Bryce
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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5 years, 3 months
[RESEND] Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting
by Bryce Harrington
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New action items:
==== Budget 2018 ====
♢ ACTION: Increase amount allocated to hackfests and post a v2 for
the budget [bryce]
==== Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association ====
♢ ACTION: Find two (or three?) Inkscape people to send to the
Color/Scribus meeting to learn about how we could do better color
management with Inkscape.
==== Boston Hackfest ====
♢ ACTION: Send Hackfest invites to oldtimers [Tavmjong]
==== Other Business ====
♢ ACTION: Investigate Fastly invoice charges [scislac,bryce]
Previous action items:
♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of
Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers]
♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and
general sponsorship options [bryce]
♦ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous
contributors) to attend the hackfest. [Tavmjong]
♦ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for
hackfest. [bryce]
♦ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then
email bryce for help [crogers]
♦ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs
[bryce,tedg]
♦ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more
attendees [Tavmjong]
♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for
support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team]
♦ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce]
♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav]
♦ ACTION: Decide what oldtimers to send hackfest invites to [bryce]
♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface]
Bryce
On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 08:48:27AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> Our monthly board meeting is scheduled for this Friday, Mar 2nd,
> at 10am Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members are welcome.
>
> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings
>
> (Note that a Release Team meeting will follow immediately after.
> The Vectors Team will be meeting the next day.)
>
>
> Agenda:
>
> + Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association
> + Boston Hackfest (March) [doctormo]
> + Merchandise sales [crogers]
> + Board election process review [tedg]
> + Infrastructure hosting [bryce]
> + LGM 2018 [Tav]
> + GSoC [ScislaC]
> + Other Business
>
>
> Action Items from last meeting:
>
> ♢ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav]
> ♢ ACTION: Send invites to old Inkscapers to attend hackfest [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface]
> ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of
> Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers]
> ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and
> general sponsorship options [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous
> contributors) to attend the hackfest. [tedg]
> ♢ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for
> hackfest. [bryce]
> ♢ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then
> email bryce for help [crogers]
> ♢ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs
> [bryce,tedg]
> ♢ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more
> attendees [Tavmjong]
> ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for
> support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team]
>
>
> Bryce
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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5 years, 3 months
[RESEND] Re: inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
by Bryce Harrington
Hoping SF is back online...
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From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...>
To: Eduard Braun <eduard.braun2@...173...>
Cc: inkscape-devel@...6..., Ryan Gorley <ryan@...3508...>, Martin
Owens <doctormo@...400...>, the Adib <theadib@...400...>, David Evans
<devans@...2376...>, Tim Sheridan <tghs@...3462...>, Ted Gould
<ted@...11...>, mrdocs <mrdocs@...715...>, Gord Caswell
<ve4jhj@...400...>
On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 01:51:36PM +0100, Eduard Braun wrote:
> Am 04.03.2018 um 06:01 schrieb Bryce Harrington:
> >The 0.92.3pre0 pre-release source tarball is ready for packaging. It
> >can be downloaded from:
> >
> > http://alpha.inkscape.org/releases/inkscape-0.92.3pre0.tar.bz2
> >
> >The 0.92.x branch should now be considered in Hard Freeze + String Freeze.
> >Please touch base with me for any changes to code or translations from
> >now until release.
> >
> >---
> >
> >I'm late as usual with cutting the release, but other than that things
> >have gone smoothly. I would very much appreciate if people could build
> >and test and give me a thumbs up if everything looks normal. If no
> >serious issues crop up I will cut the final release next weekend.
> >
> >Bryce
>
> Thanks Bryce!
>
> As you did not publish a schedule this time you're probably only late
> according to your own private schedule - If you hadn't mentioned it nobody
> would have noticed. ;-)
True. :-)
> Windows binaries and installers are available at [1] (64-bit) and [2]
> (32-bit).
> Do you want them on the website Bryce? (I noticed you uploaded the tarball
> to alpha.inkscape.org -- do we even want to add a release to the releases
> app on the website for the pre-release then? I think it can only consume
> gallery items...)
Yes, still upload the end-user downloadable content to the website.
We have mirroring and caching set up there.
Feel free to also copy the source tarball to the website.
Going forward, I'm going to stage the source tarballs on alpha. It
makes the dist machinery cleaner and more easily automated it can just
scp the files up directly to the webserver. And if I need to re-upload
the tarball I can do it without needing to rename it, which has been a
problem in the past.
I don't think we have any particular bandwidth limits for alpha, but for
stuff we know is going to get tons of hits probably best if we have it
going through Fastly.
Bryce
> [1] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_P...
> [2] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_P...
>
> Regards,
> Eduard
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5 years, 3 months
Testing
by Bryce Harrington
Sourceforge has been broken much of the week, but their twitter claims
it's back online. Checking to see if our lists work once again...
Bryce
5 years, 3 months