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Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Framework 0.7 is Faster and Open Clip Art 2.8 Goes Creative Commons Zero
by jon＠...235... 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hi guys, just let you know we making great progress on Open Clip Art Library these days and also plowing on its engine. Its a great time to come help out! Jon ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Jon Phillips <press@...2474...> Date: Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:15 PM Subject: Fwd: [Press] PRESS RELEASE: Framework 0.7 is Faster and Open Clip Art 2.8 Goes Creative Commons Zero To: clipart-list <clipart@...330...> Ok, cool, spread the word! We got the release out! ### San Francisco, December 15, 2010 UTC – Aiki Framework (http://aikiframework.org) is ending 2010 on a series of high notes that make up it's latest Release of Version 0.7. Lead Aiki Developer, Bassel Safadi (http://bassel.ws), along with fellow Fabricatorz (http://fabricatorz.com/about) have spent a month leading to the upgrade pushing revisions, planning Aiki's future, and deploying new features to Aiki's growing list of sites. Aiki Framework is a leading open source, web-based content management system. Version 0.7 is marked by a number of enhancements to the package, including revamps of core elements by Aiki Developer, Roger Martin (http://rg1024.wordpress.com). As a result, Aiki processing speed has been supercharged. Bassel has also been working tirelessly to enhance existing features while also killing bugs to improve user experience in the admin panel, as well as allowing developers greater control of the sites they build on the platform. Aiki's flagship site, The Open Clip Art Library (http://openclipart.org), has seen a month of growth and renewed focus on future goals for the project. Open Clip Art Library 2.8 brings over 1,000 new and remixed images into the Public Domain. Going even further to solidify OCAL as a leading provider of Open Source Content, registered users have grown by an astonishing 2,500 since November 1. The ever-expanding Community of artists continues to deliver solid themed content, as the latest Package Release brings a collection of over 75 Winter Holidays 2010 Clip Art (http://www.openclipart.org/packages-holidays2010). This release also sees the update of the site to use Creative Commons updated CC Zero Public Domain Dedication tool. The goal of this tool is to work internationally and take into account concerns by those living in jurisdictions around the world that have other types of rights around the creation of a work. By visiting the site, one will notice now all references to waiving copyright on clip art contributions are using this tool. Fabricatorz and Open Clip Art Library founder Jon Phillips stated, "Open Clip Art Library is used all around the world by Wikipedia, teachers, artists, and plain old Mom's as a key source for graphics. By updating our licensing tool, we are in compliance with the latest Creative Commons recommendation for releasing works into the public domain globally, and leading on the net with trying to increase sharing. This type of sharism is crucial to the open web." Beyond licensing, a new "Collections" system has also been launched. Registered OCAL members now have the ability to aggregate their favorite clip art into created lists. Each created list will appear on the user's profile page. This is only a first step in a larger plan for "Collections", so users are encouraged to test out this feature and report any bugs. Profile editing continues growing more robust and usable, thanks to OCAL Developer Chovynz (http://www.openclipart.org/user-detail/chovynz). Users now have access to their profile by simply selecting their username in the header. Selecting the re-worded 'My Profile' will now lead users to their management page. Improving usability even further, Bassel has invoked "pretty urls" for all clip art uploaded to Open Clip Art Library. With these new updates in place, the Librarians want to open the floodgates for Community involvement. Developers will be pleased to learn that a major behind-the-scenes update has taken place, and The Open Clip Art Library is now backed by the latest Version of Aiki Framework. On top of that, Framework auto-updates are in place, so OCAL will always be on the cutting edge as Aiki rockets toward the future. The Open Clip Art Library's progression has been mapped out on Launchpad (http://launchpad.net/openclipart). Here, users can learn where OCAL is heading and how they can help. All are encouraged to file any suggestions and bugs they find while utilizing The Open Clip Art Library, as well as helping to fix existing issues. Any who are unsure of how best to help are welcome to get started by logging into OCAL's irc chat (#openclipart at freenode.net). The invitation to contribute extends to Aiki Framework, whose future is also mapped out on Launchpad (http://launchpad.net/aikiframework). Aiki's Developers welcome feature requests and bug filing. For those just beginning their Aiki Framework adventure, online documentation is in place (http://www.aikiframework.org/wiki/Main_Page#Documentation) and is continually being updated with definitions, tutorials, and latest feature breakdowns. Aiki's irc channel (#aiki at freenode.net) is also a great place to ask questions and learn from those who are doing. Get started and be a part of a powerful and Open future. Highlights * Aiki Framework 0.7 Release * Faster processing & bug fixes * New Open Clip Art Library 2.8 Release * 2,500+ new registered users last month * Winter Holidays 2010 Clip Art Package Release * Call for Aiki Framework & Open Clip Art Library Developers For more information * http://aikiframework.org * http://openclipart.org * http://fabricatorz.com * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Clip_Art_Library * http://www.facebook.com/pages/Open-Clip-Art-Library/345650985985 * http://aikilab.org Press Contact Jon Phillips press@...2474... +1.415.830.3884 San Francisco + China _______________________________________________ Press mailing list Press@...2475... http://lists.fabricatorz.com/listinfo.cgi/press-fabricatorz.com -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ http://status.net/ http://rejon.status.net + skype: kidproto +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china) -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ http://fabricatorz.com/ chat/skype: kidproto | irc: rejon +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.187.1003.9974 (china) +65.8330.5807 (singapore)

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Abhishek's "refactoring" (r9946) makes things much worse
by Krzysztof Kosiński 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello The object of the C++ refactoring GSoC project by Abhishek was to better separate the object tree (interpretation) and the XML tree (representation). But the recent merge of his work made it clear that he potentially made things much worse! Abhishek's patch introduces these functions: void attach(SPObject *object, SPObject *prev); void reorder(SPObject *prev); void detach(SPObject *object); long long int getIntAttribute(char const *key, long long int def); unsigned getPosition(); gchar const * getAttribute(gchar const *name,SPException *ex=0) const; void appendChild(Inkscape::XML::Node *child); void addChild(Inkscape::XML::Node *child,Inkscape::XML::Node *prev=0); void setKeyValue(unsigned int key, gchar const *value); void setAttribute(gchar const *key, gchar const *value, SPException *ex=0); void readAttr(gchar const *key); void removeAttribute(gchar const *key, SPException *ex=0); bool storeAsDouble( gchar const *key, double *val ) const; All of those are public and operate directly on the XML tree - exactly the type of operation that the project was supposed to reduce! What do we do now? At the least, all the functions listed above should be made private. Regards, Krzysztof

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[website] website structure
by Ian Caldwell 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello, Also send on behalf of "Steven M. Ottens" Hi all, I've been pondering the site structure using the three focus groups, while keeping in mind that our audience is diverse and groups overlap. To put it simply: New users want to: -know what inkscape is -get it -know how to get started Existing users want to: -get new versions of inkscape -get add-ons -learn how to use it -get involved (user/designer style) -get the latest news Developers want to: -get source code -learn how to develop -get involved (developer style) -get the latest news Note that all three groups want to 'get something', all three want to know/learn something and two want to get involved somehow and get updated with the latest news. Also getting involved means different things to different people. Also the current distinction between developers and community is not entirely valid in my opinion. For a starter, developers are a part of the community :) Also bugtracking is both important for users and developers. In stead of focussing on the different target groups, I'd like to focus on the different activities. When someone visits the site, (s)he will not first think of him/herself as a developer, user, etc. (S)he will have a specific need which (s)he wants to be met. So instead of forcing visitors to think which role they fit, I'd like to meet their questions head on. So my suggestion is to make these 6 toplevels for the menustructure: -*about* (which should meet questions on what it is, who work on/with it, what can you do with it, what can it do) -*downloads* (which should answer all questions relating getting inkscape and related resources) -*learn* (which should answer questions on how to get started, use it and develop for it) -*get* *involved* (which should answer questions on how to get involved in all possible ways) -*news* (which should show what's happening in the community, the development, the wiki) -*donate* (which should bring us money ;) The frontpage should apart from the 6 menu-items provide a direct link to the download which is appropriate for the visitors OS and underneath an 'other version link' which links to the main downloads page, similar to firefox approach. Also it should provide direct access to 'overview' 'features' 'gallery' 'getting started/learning resources' and show the latest news. This probably leaves us some space to be filled on the frontpage. I've not yet come up with appropriate extra content, so if there are any suggestions, please let me know. One question I have is the integration of the wiki within the main site. Obviously being a wiki, we cannot or should not force the same structure as the site. Though different parts of the wiki are interesting in different places in the menu structure. It would be good if we create and link to main wikipages on different subjects. For instance wiki/learn as a starting page for all learning-related wikicontent. This way we can integrate the wiki more into the main site. The rest of the menu structure would then look something like this (note that it is most likely not complete, I'm typing this on the move so don't have access to the website and wiki to check for missing bits): ABOUT -overview -screenshots -gallery -cases -features -supporters/sponsors (?) DOWNLOADS -windows -linux -mac -other -source -addons (palettes, plugins etc) -open clip art (extern) LEARN -books -tutorials -videos -FAQ -wiki/learn -dev docs -user docs GET INVOLVED -forums -mailinglist -bugtracker -irc/jabber -wiki -roadmap -developer -designer NEWS -news -releases -contests -meetings -wiki/recent DONATE (nothing under here, just a direct link to the donations page) I am aware this structure is quite different from the current and as such it might take quite some effort to relocate current content in the new structure. As stated before I haven't looked to each individual page in the current site and checked if it has a proper place in the new structure. I haven't thought very hard and deep on how to integrate the wiki into the main site, other than the linking in the menu, this might need some more thought. Also it is a proposal so I'm open for feedback, comments and improvements. Regards, Steven

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Embed Python script engine
by Yu-Chung Wang 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Is the link become available in the WIKI? We are actually working on adding scene and animation editor into the inkscape. This will make the inkscape become an environment similiar to the Abobe Flash. So far, we have finished some prototype to edit multi page SVG file and some simple animation support. So far, in the integration is only at the Node and NodeObserver level, therefore, its relationship between inkscape and python VM is quite weak. However, in order to make it easier to use, we need to bind more and more functions into the python. This will make the binding easier to be broken from version to version. This is why we want to make it into the code base. The other possibility is not to put the python into the code base directly. Instead, define an binding interface which should be used by any system like ours so that we can develop our stuff outside the code base safely. You can decide to include our stuff or not until the technical issue is clear. >>I'll list out a few more details on this in the wiki, so that the reoccurring discussion can be captured.

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0.48 trunk compilation bug&fix, launchpad questions
by Robin Palotai 15 Dec '10

15 Dec '10

Hello, Sorry in advance, this is a composite-topic email. 1) Launchpad question - am I ok so far? Being new to bzr/launchpad I'm a bit confused yet. What I would liked to do is to branch the 0.48.x branch and apply/rewrite some of my former patches to there (not the 0.49.x, because unfortunately my libs seem to be too old to compile it). I branched lp:inkscape/0.48.x, and also pushed it to a custom branch atlp:~palotai-robin/inkscape/0.48.x . Now at the bottom of the launchpad page, it tells that it is "stacked on lp:inkscape", where I would expect it to be lp:inkscape/0.48.x. Is this ok? 2) Some compilation errors with the 0.48.x trunk I used 'configure --disable-lcms', gcc 4.3.2, x86, Debian Linux (lenny), glib 2.22.4, glibmm 2.16.4, gtk 2.12.12, gtkmm 2.12.7 (according to the package manager). 2A) The error mentioned here: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/35338 Solution was to include "io/sys.h" in color-profile.cpp 2B) Gtk::IconTheme::load_icon doesn't have default third parameter on my system, while inkscape uses the two-param version at two places: interface.cpp <http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.graphics.inkscape.devel/35338>- Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2 ); + Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2, (Gtk::IconLookupFlags) 0 ); ui/widget/dock-item.cpp - Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2 ); + Glib::RefPtr<Gdk::Pixbuf> pb = iconTheme->load_icon( it->second, *it2, (Gtk::IconLookupFlags) 0 ); 3) How do I commit these patches? Having these fixed, what is the expected lp/bzr procedure for create bug/commit patch? 4) Is adding new features (those I originally wanted) on the 0.48.x branch is in vain? If it is a corrections only branch, then maybe it is in vain. But I can't compile for 0.49, so maybe creating the patches for 0.48 would make it easier to merge them in 0.49 eventually. Thank you, Robin

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Firefox corrupts svg files !
by Ivan Louette 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

I send this message here because they concern settings files created for Inkscape and I think everybody concerned by svg creation could be concerned. Some time ago I placed some svg filters files on OpenClipart and more recently I heard from users that they didn't work despite all my tests were positive. Yesterday I discovered that following the way you take to download them they work or not. The problem seems to be specific to Firefox and doesn't occur with other browsers (tried with Safari, Opera and Chrome). Here are the address of the two files : The first one is an Inkscape template which activates filters for background images or objects : http://www.openclipart.org/detail/92749 This second one contains color filters decicated to work on background object or images (place any shape on top of a picture and apply the filters to this shape) : http://www.openclipart.org/detail/92977 Here is the problem : - When you click on the "Download SVG" button on the OpenClipart page it opens the svg in Firefox. Then, if you save this SVG file displayed in Firefox and try to work with it in Inkscape it doesn't work because Firefox changed something in the file. - If you right click on the "Download SVG" button and do "Save target as", then the file download unchanged on your disk and all works as expected. Could somebody send the bug to Firefox ? Thanks for your attention, ivan

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] r9946 build failure
by ~suv 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

Issues with revision 9946: <http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/trunk/revision/9946> On 12/12/10 11:39, ~suv wrote: > CXX dialogs/spellcheck.o > dialogs/spellcheck.cpp: In function ‘void sp_spellcheck_accept(GObject*, > GObject*)’: > dialogs/spellcheck.cpp:783: error: ‘SPDocumentUndo’ has not been declared > make[3]: *** [dialogs/spellcheck.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** [all] Error 2 > make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 > make: *** [all] Error 2 System: osx, gcc 4.2.1, gtk 2.22.1, glib 2.26.1, gtkmm 2.22.0 sanguivor (on irc) confirms same error (no system info provided). houz (on irc) has no build failure, but reports that 'File > Open' no longer works with r9946 (file chooser freezes when 'Open' is pressed): System: debian, gcc 4.4.5, gtk 2.20.1, glib 2.25.11, gtkmm 2.20.3 ~suv

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(no subject)
by John Cliff 12 Dec '10

12 Dec '10

http://sportseventmerchandise.com/images/gr.php

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Update W3C tests
by Tavmjong Bah 11 Dec '10

11 Dec '10

Hello, The W3C SVG working group is in the final stages of getting the SVG 1.1 "Second Edition" out the door. The test suit has been greatly expanded as part of this work. Before the standard can be finalized, each test in the suite must have at least two SVG renderers pass the test. I have run Inkscape via the command line over the suite. At the moment there are 440 approved tests (this may change in the next few weeks). The results are: OK (PASS): 166 PARTIAL: 23 FAIL: 251 Most of the fails are due to non-supported features: No DOM, animation, interactivity support: ~160 No SVG font support: ~20 Still, there is quite a bit of room for improvement, some probably trivial. I've prepared web pages for the tests. They can be found at: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/W3C_SVG_1.1F2/harness/htmlInkscapeApproved… Tav

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website design bounty
by Alexandre Prokoudine 10 Dec '10

10 Dec '10

Hi, I have a spare hardcopy of recently released book "inkscape 0.48. Essentials for Web Designers" and I propose to make it a bounty for winner of the website design contest. Could anybody please adjust announcement text? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] website
by Steven Ottens 09 Dec '10

09 Dec '10

Hi All, Since I've volunteered and been drafted as a Ux/UI guy for the redesign of the website a couple of remarks and questions on the idea for the new website. For me and probably also for the designers as well it would be nice to define who the visitors of the new website will be. I came up with these three main groups. -new users -users (artists/designers etc) -developers These three groups have different needs and expectations from the site. This is my view on their needs and expectations, feel free to shoot holes into them/enhance them. New users The new user group has been addressed by the 'Big Issue' talk on blenderguru. Short version: -they need to know what it is, what it does and where to get it. -frontpage is their first introduction to Inkscape and as such should be focussed towards their need (Short explanation, download button/link, 'learn' button/link) and visually attractive Users They already have inkscape, they visit the site for a couple of reasons. -Check for/download new version (put version number on the download button/link) -Learn how to use inkscape/improve their skills through tutorials -Get help with (technical) issues with inkscape -Showcase their work -Get more resources like scripts/plugins/palettes etc. -... Developers They already know inkscape and like to improve it. So they visit the site because: -They like to know how to get the sourcecode, compile it etc -File/solve bugs -...? (I'm no developer so help me out :) The reason I ask this, is because knowing who is using the site and why makes it easier to design a site-structure. The current mind-map of the site, although very complete doesn't provide a very balanced site-structure. 'Community Frontpage' is 3 levels deep, 'Press and references' is one level deep and 'Open clip art' is not even part of the site, though all three are shown as equal children of the frontpage. Having a beautiful and consistent design, isn't enough. A logical and short site-structure is important as well; having relevant subsections close to each other is key. Love to hear your thoughts. Having the discussion now makes it possible to incorporate the outcome in the winning design from day one. Regards Steven -- Senior UxDesigner

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Inkscape Tango/Art Libre icons.
by David Bolack 08 Dec '10

08 Dec '10

Without getting on any particular nerves about Inkscape and this Icon Set, I have a question. :) Looking at the wiki page here, http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Themable_icons, it appears that ya'll have vastly extended the Art Libre set. Have these additions been contributed back into Art Libre (the page for that looks stale) and if not are what license are they under?

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patches from Adonis
by Alexandre Prokoudine 06 Dec '10

06 Dec '10

Hi, There's probably a good dozen of merge requests from Adonis Papaderos over last couple of weeks, all with bug fixes, some already applied. Can anybody say if the pacthes are good so we could suggest commit access as per rules? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Inkscape 0.48.1?
by Josh Andler 06 Dec '10

06 Dec '10

Hey all! Any blockers left? Things look pretty ripe right now imho and it seems like momentum has slowed. Better question... any opposition to moving forward? Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape-devel Digest, Vol 55, Issue 2
by Daniel Krause 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello all: I've not been active for a while, but I wanted to begin again. My focus is the Technical Drafting portion of Inkscape. I've put together my thoughts in this document. I would love some feed back. https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1hSD8lW0Nv3Z3BHFXXg9vDsBI4U0CaWw1kP… I'm a bit selfish, as I am sick and tired of shelling out hundreds and thousands of dollars for the latest and greatest drafting software every few years. Having Inkscape be able to replace AutoCAD and Vectorworks would be the greatest gift I could every receive. You should all know that you have made a fantastic piece of software here. Thanks! -Dan www.danielkrausedesign.com 302 598 4162 On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:17 PM, < inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Send Inkscape-devel mailing list submissions to > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > inkscape-devel-owner(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Inkscape-devel digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Notebooks in internal extensions > (J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...) > 2. Re : Notebooks in internal extensions (Nicolas Dufour) > 3. Re: Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > (J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...) > 4. Re: website (Jaros?aw Foksa) > 5. Re: website (Ian Caldwell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:55:26 +0100 > From: <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Notebooks in internal extensions > To: <nicoduf@...48...>, <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > < > EEEAA170F9750D449D15AEF17CE7ED6D0345AA03@...1579...> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Dufour [mailto:nicoduf@...48...] > > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 15:02 > > To: Inkscape Devel List > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Notebooks in internal extensions > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently trying to use a 3 tabs notebook in an internal > > extension (a filter with some options and two color > > selectors), but Inkscape crashes as soon as an > > ext->get_param_xxx function is called from the filter's code. > > Everything > > ext->works > > fine if I remove the notebook from the filter UI code. > > > > These functions use the parameters list of the extension (see > > extension/extension.cpp, line 427+) to return the requested > > value. The problem is that this list, which is also used to > > create the UI, only contains the first level parameters, and > > when using a notebook, the notebook's parameters only (but > > not what's inside it). > > ParamNotebook (extension/param/notebook.cpp, line 64+) has > > it's own lists (one for each page), which are also used to > > create the pages' UI, and contain all the parameters that > > should be (but currently are not) accessible from the > > extension's get_param functions in order to make notebooks > > work as expected. > > > > Since it's not possible to add the notebook's pages > > parameters to the extension's ones (it would break the UI), I > > plan to add a new private merged list in Extension::Extension > > and a public Extension::add_param function to allow > > parameters addition from the notebook code. > > > > Could an extension expert (Ted, Johan?) advise me? > > Hi Nicolas, > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think the fix would be > to have the get_param functions do something like a > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > Ciao, > Johan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 10:29:03 +0000 (GMT) > From: Nicolas Dufour <nicoduf@...48...> > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > To: J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..., inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: <958479.56148.qm@...2088...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hi Johan, > > Thanks for your answer! > > > > De : "J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..." <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think the fix would be > > to have the get_param functions do something like a > > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > It was my first guess, but how do you find the parameter's type from its > name > (there's no "get_param_type" function or public "type" var in parameter.cpp > and > notebook.cpp)? > > Regards, > -- > Nicolas > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:46:45 +0100 > From: <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > To: <nicoduf@...48...>, <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Message-ID: > < > EEEAA170F9750D449D15AEF17CE7ED6D0345AB6C@...1579...> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nicolas Dufour [mailto:nicoduf@...48...] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 11:29 > > To: Engelen, J.B.C. (Johan); inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Re : Notebooks in internal extensions > > > > Hi Johan, > > > > Thanks for your answer! > > > > > > > De : "J.B.C.Engelen@...1578..." <J.B.C.Engelen@...1578...> > > > Perhaps I can have a look at it this evening. I think > > the fix would > > > be to have the get_param functions do something like a > > > notebookparam->get_param if the extension's parameter is a > > > ParamNotebook. (right?) > > > > It was my first guess, but how do you find the parameter's > > type from its name (there's no "get_param_type" function or > > public "type" var in parameter.cpp and notebook.cpp)? > > >From the top of my head I can think up two solutions: > - Make a virtual get_sub_param function in Extension::Parameter that > does nothing. And override that method in Extension::ParamNotebook. > - Or (ugly) do dynamic type cast to check for param type > ("dynamic_cast<>") > > I'd go for the first option, and rewrite Extension::param_shared (and > rename to get_param). > I find the method somewhat strange. Seems better to me, to rewrite it > without using recursion: > (not my best piece of code, but I hope the idea is clear) > > Parameter * > Extension::get_param (const gchar * name) > { > if (name == NULL) { > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > if (this->parameters == NULL) { > // the list of parameters is empty > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > > for (GSList * list = this->parameters; list != NULL; list = > g_slist_next(list)) { > Parameter * param = static_cast<Parameter*>(list->data); > if (!strcmp(param->name(), name)) { > return param; > } else { > Parameter * subparam = param->get_param(name); > if (subparam) { > return subparam; > } > } > } > > // if execution reaches here, no parameter matching 'name' was found > throw Extension::param_not_exist(); > } > > > Then for example get_param_string would become: > const gchar * > Extension::get_param_string (const gchar * name, const SPDocument * doc, > const Inkscape::XML::Node * node) > { > Parameter * param; > > param = get_param(name); > return param->get_string(doc, node); > } > > > > Extension::Parameter::get_param(const gchar * /*name*/) > { > return NULL; > } > > > Extension::ParamNotebook::get_param(const gchar * /*name*/) > { > here a loop similar to Extension::get_param > } > > > Hope these pieces of (pseudo)code help, > Johan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 19:28:56 +0100 > From: Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website > To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinwrFBDQ3jv8CDGdFRp4cCjsjL0g7xu-Ows5cxD@...401...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I remember that back in 2008 we had simillar discussions - Chris was > advocating Django, I wanted Drupal, there was a lot of talk but we > ended up with the old site. > > Development Seed (http://developmentseed.org/) was offering volunteer > work on new inkscape.org site few months ago. Is this proposal still > actual? They are one of the best shops you could find - perhaps it > would be best to let them lead the development if they agree so. > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > wrote: > > hello, > > > > It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a > part > > of the server management involving inkscape and have been for > approximately > > 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. > > > > Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just > > brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the > past > > 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests > but > > no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. > > Things are just scattered every which way > > I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is > currently > > in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we > can > > test the SVG building more?efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on > this > > in the near future. > > > > Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this > problem. > > We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. > > > > UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. > > After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS > > > > Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) > > > > Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as > needed > > > > Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > Skills required > > > > Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML > > Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works > > > > Documentation (*WRITERS*) > > > > Skills > > > > Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over > to > > the new site. > > > > Translation > > > > We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once > > completed into the various languages. > > > > So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered > and > > disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different > > navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So > if > > you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or the > > list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me > know > > what you think.... > > Thanks, > > Ian "Inc" C. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > grabs. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 14:17:16 -0800 > From: Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] website > To: Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Message-ID: > <AANLkTin7aCd=GVqPrC7On8fD7ztTyndYcsa5wr5yTdDY@...401...> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > yup, completely understandable. I have contacted the people from > developmentseed that originally offered to help with the new website prior > to sending this email and I have yet to hear anything back..... so I'm not > real hopeful and it's time for us to make a move. So we're starting with > mockups. If you have a backway to contact them and they're still willing > we're more than willing... > Thanks, > Ian > > 2010/12/1 Jaros?aw Foksa <jarek@...2504...> > > > I remember that back in 2008 we had simillar discussions - Chris was > > advocating Django, I wanted Drupal, there was a lot of talk but we > > ended up with the old site. > > > > Development Seed (http://developmentseed.org/) was offering volunteer > > work on new inkscape.org site few months ago. Is this proposal still > > actual? They are one of the best shops you could find - perhaps it > > would be best to let them lead the development if they agree so. > > > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> > > wrote: > > > hello, > > > > > > It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a > > part > > > of the server management involving inkscape and have been for > > approximately > > > 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. > > > > > > Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just > > > brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the > > past > > > 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests > > but > > > no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. > > > Things are just scattered every which way > > > I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is > > currently > > > in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we > > can > > > test the SVG building more efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on > > this > > > in the near future. > > > > > > Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this > > problem. > > > We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. > > > > > > UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > > > Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. > > > After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS > > > > > > Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) > > > > > > Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as > > needed > > > > > > Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) > > > > > > Skills required > > > > > > Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML > > > Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works > > > > > > Documentation (*WRITERS*) > > > > > > Skills > > > > > > Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over > > to > > > the new site. > > > > > > Translation > > > > > > We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once > > > completed into the various languages. > > > > > > So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered > > and > > > disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different > > > navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So > > if > > > you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or > the > > > list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me > > know > > > what you think.... > > > Thanks, > > > Ian "Inc" C. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > > grabs. > > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! > > Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by > > optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the > > Intel(R) Software Partner Program. Five $500 cash prizes are up for > grabs. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intelisp-dev2dev > > _______________________________________________ > > Inkscape-devel mailing list > > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > > >

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Notebooks in internal extensions
by Nicolas Dufour 03 Dec '10

03 Dec '10

Hello, I'm currently trying to use a 3 tabs notebook in an internal extension (a filter with some options and two color selectors), but Inkscape crashes as soon as an ext->get_param_xxx function is called from the filter's code. Everything works fine if I remove the notebook from the filter UI code. These functions use the parameters list of the extension (see extension/extension.cpp, line 427+) to return the requested value. The problem is that this list, which is also used to create the UI, only contains the first level parameters, and when using a notebook, the notebook's parameters only (but not what's inside it). ParamNotebook (extension/param/notebook.cpp, line 64+) has it's own lists (one for each page), which are also used to create the pages' UI, and contain all the parameters that should be (but currently are not) accessible from the extension's get_param functions in order to make notebooks work as expected. Since it's not possible to add the notebook's pages parameters to the extension's ones (it would break the UI), I plan to add a new private merged list in Extension::Extension and a public Extension::add_param function to allow parameters addition from the notebook code. Could an extension expert (Ted, Johan?) advise me? Regards. -- Nicolas

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website
by Ian Caldwell 02 Dec '10

02 Dec '10

hello, It's been a good long while since I've emailed the mailing list I am a part of the server management involving inkscape and have been for approximately 4+ years. I am writing you today for 2 reasons. 1. Our current site is terrible, I'm sorry but there is no chance of just brushing over it. I know there have been a fair number of people in the past 2 years who have submitted website mockup ideas and we've had contests but no one has ever followed through. Which I'll take partial blame for it. Things are just scattered every which way 2. I wanted to update you on the status of the Test suite, Osuosl is currently in the process of setting up the ability to run test suites so that we can test the SVG building more efficiently. So stay tuned for more info on this in the near future. Anyway back to problem 1. Here's how I think we can best solve this problem. We're going to break the website into different categories and duties. 1. UI (mockups) (*ARTIST*/PROGRAMMERS*) - Ability to make mockups of how you think the website should look. - After we pick yours we will request to see the top couple in HTML/CSS 2. Artwork for the website (*ARTIST*) - Ability to develop / sharpen logos as well as various buttons etc as needed 3. Drupal Modules (*PROGRAMMERS*) - Skills required - Knowledge of Mysql/PHP/JS and HTML - Knowledge or ability to learn how drupal works 4. Documentation (*WRITERS*) - Skills - Moderate knowledge and ability to update and port existing content over to the new site. 5. Translation - We need people who specialize in various languages to port content once completed into the various languages. So what's wrong with the current design? a lot, it's way too cluttered and disorganized not to mention you click wiki you go to a whole different navigation and sub site. That is just a pain to deal with as a user. So if you have skills in 1 of the above 5 categories, please contact me or the list directly and we'll assemble the a team and get this going! let me know what you think.... Thanks, Ian "Inc" C.

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Website redesign discussion (purely the aesthetic talk)
by Josh Andler 02 Dec '10

02 Dec '10

Hey All, I had seen a well done comparison of the Blender website with the alternative commercial tools websites by Andrew Price. I was putting together a similar comparison for vector apps but the websites vary a bit more and reading what he had done is sufficient enough for people to get the point. I think that his analysis is just as valid for Inkscape's website too. Visit http://www.blenderguru.com/the-big-issues/ and do a quick search for "marketing" and scroll down just a little to see what his observations were. At this point I have to say that we should really follow a similar approach for our redesign too. Following are the links to a few commercial alternatives in the vector editor category, to compare their sites to ours. http://www.adobe.com/products/illustrator/ http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/us/en/Product/1281109933608 http://www.xara.com/us/products/designer/ http://www.microsoft.com/expression/products/design_overview.aspx My main observation? 3D software is marketed much more nicely and I actually think we should approach the redesign in a similar way. Realistically I think we can be a bit more playful with the design, but we should have something that communicates what inkscape is and what it's capable of in a better way for non-existing users. What are other people's thoughts? If most people think the "similar to 3d apps websites" approach is good, I will post something to deviantart requesting designs there too. Cheers, Josh

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] website
by Chris Morgan 01 Dec '10

01 Dec '10

See for yourself by comparing the designs. Things like omitting the sidebar completely, doing the footer menu well, doing the primary/secondary links ideally, squeezing a language selection block into the header - they're mostly *possible* with Drupal, but they don't fit well with the normal design and tend to require some custom PHP code in the template, rather than Just Working. When I say "too hard" I mean that it was too hard for me to do at that point when I was just creating a prototype of it all. Some, like the primary and secondary links, would have come back properly a little later on, but the thing is they require *work* in Drupal, while in Django the system can be designed that way at a lower level, more friendlily. (For example, instead of having a "language block" which is just a fixed block, you can easily have a template which manages the HTML for the block completely). Working with Drupal yourself extensively, you may disagree with me on the "too hard" - but I hope you'll see what I mean, anyway. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Donna Benjamin <donna@...2156...> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:39 +1100, Chris Morgan wrote: > > Some elements in duckgoesoink's design I had changed for > > no good reason other than that in Drupal it would be too hard to do it > > another way. > > Which elements? > > -- > Donna Benjamin - Executive Director > Creative Contingencies - http://cc.com.au > ph +61 3 9326 9985 - mob +61 418 310 414 > open source - facilitation - web services > >

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Mask calculation error.
by Tavmjong Bah 29 Nov '10

29 Nov '10

Hi, I just checked into trunk a fix for Cairo export of masked objects (bug 597974). In tracing the problem I came across another mask related problem. Inkscape is calculating the value of the mask wrong for screen display. The value of the mask is suppose to be calculated using "the luminance-to-alpha coefficients (as defined in the 'feColorMatrix' filter primitive)" on linear RGB values. At the moment, Inkscape is combining the RGB values with equal weight. This leads to a noticeable difference between Inkscape screen display and the Cairo based exports, as well as display in browsers. I am guessing that sRGB color values are being used in addition, although I don't see a noticeable difference when comparing Inkscape PDF output or corrected screen display output with Batik or Firefox rendering. The code to fix is in nr-arena-item.cpp at line 518 and 536... but as this is speed critical code, I don't know the best way of doing this. Can someone who is familiar with nr-pixops, etc. have a look? This is the current code: m = NR_PREMUL_112 (s[0] + s[1] + s[2], s[3]); d[0] = FAST_DIV_ROUND < 3 * 255 > (m); This is the desired code equivalent: d[0] = (int)((s[0]*0.2125 + s[1]*0.7154 + s[2]*0.0721) * s[3]/255.0); Tav

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re ndering arcs - Bug 653315
by Alvin Penner 29 Nov '10

29 Nov '10

Hi, I wonder if anyone could point me to the general location of the code that is responsible for converting a circular arc to its corresponding cubic Bezier approximations for the case where the arc has no sodipodi attributes. I know that the file src\sp-ellipse.cpp does this if sodipodi attributes are present, but it appears that the non-sodipodi case is handled separately. This is in reference to LP Bug 653315, which points out some rendering problems in this case. tia, Alvin -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/rendering-arcs---Bug-653315-tp29894997p29894997.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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makerbot competition
by john cliff 27 Nov '10

27 Nov '10

Hey all, Saw this on the makerbot blog and thought it may be of interest to some of our community: http://blog.makerbot.com/2010/11/26/four-ways-to-win-a-makerbot-unicorn-pen… Cheers Simarilius

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Fwd: [Merge] lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape
by Jasper van de Gronde 27 Nov '10

27 Nov '10

Is anyone looking into these fixes? If they do indeed fix bugs it would be a shame to let them go to waste. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Merge] lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 11:11:52 -0000 From: Adonis Papaderos <ado.papas@...1244...> Reply-To: mp+41851@...2499... To: mp+41851@...2499... Adonis Papaderos has proposed merging lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape. Requested reviews: Inkscape Developers (inkscape.dev) Related bugs: #665316 crash when saving after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/665316 #669537 crash when activating "snap to path" mode after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/669537 Fix Bug #669537 - crash when activating "snap to path" mode after changing stroke width (no focus-out-event) -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537/+merge/41851 Your team Inkscape Developers is requested to review the proposed merge of lp:~ado-papas/inkscape/bug_669537 into lp:inkscape.

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NEW: books section
by Alexandre Prokoudine 24 Nov '10

24 Nov '10

Hi, Since the SSL bug is fixed, the new Books section on the website is finally available: http://inkscape.org/books/index.php This is only first version of the section, I intend to give it polish and add more books and then keep updated. The HTML code is quite horrible, I'm not proud of it :) Feel free to improve it. The section is localizable the very same way it is done for other pages. I'm not sure however that it makes sense doing this now that we have so many Django programmers willing to do an entirely new website. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Embed Python script engine
by Thinker K.F. Li 23 Nov '10

23 Nov '10

Hi all, A week ago, I had post a message about adding a dock item with Python script in Inkscape window. Actually, I had embedded Python script engine to Inkscape successfully in our Inkscape branch (pybind). It works with low latency compared to the extension interface provided by Inkscape now. It is also more powerful than what the extension interface is now. We make it for another project. With this Inkscape branch (pybind), we can add a dock item, or any widget around canvas. We even create a timeline GTK widget with Python and pack it just under the SVG canvas. With this branch, some functions, of Inkscape, that is not CPU-intensive can be implemented with Python script. So, I want to know if it is possible to merge our Inkscape branch (pybind) back to the trunk.

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