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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] ui improvements
by Jasper van de Gronde 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

On 2010-09-09 12:54, J.B.C.Engelen@...1578... wrote: > ... (about tool cursor with color preview) > Pretty neat! > Could you also implement this for the spiral, pen(cil) and calligraphy > tools? Sure. The main reason I didn't do it yet is that it isn't clear to me what should be shown. Other than that it's just a matter of changing the corresponding .xpm and adding a small line with tool's "preference url" to its TOOL-context.cpp (in the init function, see rect-context.cpp for example, if you want to do it yourself).

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Cloned Tiles
by Thorsten Wilms 04 Oct '10

04 Oct '10

Hi! Back to the topic of the Cloned Tiles UI: One issue is if you try to apply one of the non-rectangular wallpaper groups to rectangular prototype, the result does not appear to make sense. Showing schemes like http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/wallpaper_groups1.png would help a bit. But actually, the user should start with the right shape. They should be encouraged and assisted to do so. The "Use saved size and position of the tile feature" allows one to deal with geometry that extends outwards of the base tile, as nicely explained on http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/TilePattern.html I think this is a hack to seemingly get around the need for 2 different things: the base tile area used for building the pattern (gap-less, no overlap), and the prototype with the geometry to be repeated. A solution could be to put this functionality into a tool/effect. You choose the Wallpaper group, then you create the base tile area that will have the right shape (similar to rectangle/star/polygon tools). There could be automatic selection of geometry covered by the base tile area. If you start with a selection, the base tile area could be created centered on it, automatically. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/

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Problem resizing horizontal or vertical lines
by JiHO 01 Oct '10

01 Oct '10

Hello all, This is an old issue I think, and this made wonder wether there was a workaround by now. Here are the steps: 1- draw a perfectly horizontal line (snap to grid to be sure) 2- select the path with the selector tool. Its size is displayed in the toolbar 3.1- in inkscape preferences > tools, select visual bounding box 3.2- resize the width of the line by typing a new number (say, half the original) in the toolbar => The line is resized but only approximately 4.1- in inkscape preferences > tools, select geometric bounding box 4.2- resize the width of the line by typing a new number in the toolbar => The line is not resized at all This works the same when you try to change the height of a vertical line. I guess all this relates to a division by zero somewhere since it disappears as soon as the line is slanted even by the tiniest amount. I could not find a bug report but there is surely one (I probably just searched with incorrect terms). Is there a fix in sight? a workaround? I am trying to map an apartment and it's just a bunch of horizontal and vertical lines that need to have a precise length. Thanks in advance for any help, JiHO --- http://maururu.net

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How to reduce complexity of scanning svg file
by Stephen Dickason 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hello all. I am using Inkscape to vectorise images - i.e. set up path information - that I can then parse the resulting .svg file into an intermediate program that when run generates the equivalent PDF drawing commands. This was nice and easy with version 0.46, but I have a windows XP configuration where the Inkscape floating toolbars don't work properly on that version and upgraded to version 0.48 where they now work. A new problem is now the path information (after working on the path) is now not just M,L,C,z commands, but also m,l,c commands, and command omission on repetition. (The M,L,C commands are great because translating them is relatively simple.) I have attempted to correctly interpret the relative coordinates of the m,l,c commands, but I don't seem to get the curves right. The command omission on repetition I may have to rewrite my parser, or try understand the whole thing again (No it wasn't BNF'd or Yacc'd). I have a few options in order of preference: 1) Find the switch in Inkscape that makes it use the original M,L,C path commands. 2) Export the path(s) from inside Inkscape to something similar. 3) Fix my parser, which will take a while and may break again in future versions. 4) Find a nifty utility that helps with the svg parsing. Can anyone can help or advise with the above options or suggest a better alternative? Thanks In Advance This email is subject to our disclaimer which can be found by visiting our website on http://www.elcb.co.za/UI/Contents.aspx?ID=28

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Funding inkscape development
by Drechsel Wolf 30 Sep '10

30 Sep '10

Hi everybody, as I was the person to start this discussion, I feel myself obliged to try a sort of resume, so I tried a solution hopefully many people can agree with. What about a sort of "market place solution" like this ? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We create a "market place" section in the wiki. Somebody looking for the solution of a specific problem (called "inquirer" in the following) can create a related page, containing a description of the task and a table with two columns and several lines. One column contains contributors with their financial offerings - obviously starting with the inquirer. The other column can contain entries of people who are willing to do the job, including the amount of money each person is asking for to do the job. When the sum of offerings exeeds the lowest demand, the inquirer can ask the contributors to wire the money to a "inkscape bank account in trust", which should be administrated by a small commitee. When the sum came in, the administration committee can issue the mandate to the contractor, who will start to work on the solution. When the inquirer states that the job is done, the administration committe can tranfer the money to the contractor, and the inquierer can remove the request page. In the case of conflict, the committee should act as an arbitration board. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As a EC citizen, I'd like a European Bank account - would make money transfer very cheap and easy due to the IBAN/BIC thing. If this or a modified solution of this kind would find general acceptance, I'll be happy to design the wiki pages/templates. Let me hear your comments. Yours, Wolf

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Non-model extension dialog consistency
by Craig Marshall 29 Sep '10

29 Sep '10

Hi, I think it would be good if the 9 extensions that are not using live-preview[0] could use a non-model dialog, just like all the other live-preview-enabled extensions do (when live-preview is unchecked). By live-preview-enabled, I don't mean whether the live preview checkbox is checked, I mean whether it has the checkbox at all. Note: I am only talking about extensions of the "effect" type, not input, output or any others that may exist. For example, if I want to re-apply an extension (a non-live-preview-enabled extension) and to change the workpiece between applications, I currently I have two options: 1) Close and reopen the dialog between uses. 2) Pretend that the extension can make use of live preview, but leave it unchecked. Option 1 is irritating, even though there is a "Previous extension" menu entry. Option 2 is a nasty hack, and one which could cause the extension to crash if the checkbox is accidentally checked. Since this non-modal functionality is the default for extensions that say "I can use live preview", I see no downside to making it the default to all extensions. In fact, it is a more consistent, and more user-friendly approach. I've filed a bug [1] and attached a very small patch, which implements this proposed change. It works in Windows 7 and OS X 10.5.8 at least. I think it would be great if some of the original or current UI/extension authors could give their points of view and possibly tell me where my thinking is flawed. Thanks, Craig [0] Add nodes, Embed Image, Extract Image, Guillotine, Printing Marks, Replace Font, Webslicer Create Group, Webslicer Create Rect and Webslicer Export [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/649441

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problem while building 0.48
by Britton Kerin 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

It fails like this (on a re-run of make after vanilla configure): $ make make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0/src' CXXLD inkscape /usr/bin/ld: warning: librt.so.1, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.so, may conflict with librt.so.19 /usr/bin/ld: warning: librt.so.1, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.2/libgomp.so, may conflict with librt.so.19 libinkscape.a(addNoise.o): In function `Inkscape::Extension::Internal::Bitmap::AddNoise::applyEffect(Magick::Image*)': /home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0/src/extension/internal/bitmap/addNoise.cpp:29: undefined reference to `Magick::Image::addNoise(MagickLib::NoiseType)' libinkscape.a(channel.o): In function `Inkscape::Extension::Internal::Bitmap::Channel::applyEffect(Magick::Image*)': /home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0/src/extension/internal/bitmap/channel.cpp:32: undefined reference to `Magick::Image::channel(MagickLib::ChannelType)' libinkscape.a(levelChannel.o): In function `Inkscape::Extension::Internal::Bitmap::LevelChannel::applyEffect(Magick::Image*)': /home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0/src/extension/internal/bitmap/levelChannel.cpp:33: undefined reference to `Magick::Image::levelChannel(MagickLib::ChannelType, double, double, double)' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [inkscape] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bkerin/tmp/inkscape-0.48.0' make: *** [all] Error 2 any clues? Thanks, Britton

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how to include size information in SVG_G_ELEMENT
by Ogla Sungutay 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hi guys, I need to add the size of the SVG_G_ELEMENT in a custom namespace as seen below: <g inkscape:label="baz" id="foo" myNamespace:width="647" myNamespace:height="400" > This will require some hacking, so before I go into the code, I wanted to get some feedback from you; I'm hoping that you can give me some directions or offer me solutions. Thanks!! -- V. Ogla Sungutay, UI programmer www.lyciasoft.com skype:oglasungutay

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Website redesign Proposal (was: )
by AJ Ashton 28 Sep '10

28 Sep '10

Hi all, I've been reading the side-discussion about the current state of the Inkscape website and figured I should speak up. from Alexandre Prokoudine in the 'Free Desktop Release' thread: > In fact, our custom website CMS is rather unmaintained. Several people > volunteered to create a new website based on drupal or possibly > something else, and we never heard back from them. This was me and my colleague Young Hahn. We work for Development Seed, a small web shop in Washington, DC, with a focus on using & contributing to open-source projects. Young and I are both designers who rely on Inkscape for the majority of our graphics work. You can see the kinds of things Inkscape is helping us do at http://developmentseed.org/projects Earlier in the year we chatted with Josh Andler about how the current website works and what a Drupal redesign/migration might look like. We suggested Drupal since that is what we specialize in - Young, in addition to being a kick-ass designer, is also a highly respected and experienced Drupal developer. Since our initial chat with Josh we've been letting other projects distract us. However, recently I've been speaking to Young and our CEO, Eric Gundersen, about scheduling some real time for this and, if the community is willing, we'd love to get started soon. One important aspect of the site that we think needs work is the information architecture. We propose reducing the main navigation menu to: - News - Download - Documentation - Resources - Gallery - Community - Development I would like to open a discussion about people's thoughts on this, and perhaps get into some specifics regarding what pages/sections would need to be consolidated, rethought, or perhaps eliminated in order to do this. I have some ideas regarding a new visual design as well, but think that can wait until these more fundemental decisions are made. Thanks! AJ Ashton

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our logo in EPS
by Alexandre Prokoudine 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

Hi, For a reason I may not yet announce I need our logo in EPS file format. Unfortunately Inkscape still has no idea how to flatten transparencies when saving to PS/EPS. Before I go tweaking the SVG to get rid of them, I'd like to find out if somebody did this job before, so that some time could be spared. Thanks in advance, whatever would come out of this :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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round and bevel edges of any kind of shapes ?
by Axel Richter 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

hi, is it possible to bevel or round edges on any shapes? i know its going on the boxes but how can i realize it when i need a bevel of 5mm or any unit. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Axel Richter ~ +WEB+VECTOR+PHOTO+MUSIC+ ~ Web: http://www.airwaveindehouse.com http://www.axelrichteronline.de Mail: airwaveindehouse@...1439...

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Status of dbus awareness
by Kent Tenney 26 Sep '10

26 Sep '10

Howdy, I just built the inkscape trunk from bzr and ran this script #!/usr/bin/python import dbus bus = dbus.SessionBus() inkdoc1 = bus.get_object('org.inkscape', '/org/inkscape/desktop_0') doc1 = dbus.Interface(inkdoc1, dbus_interface="org.inkscape.document") im = doc1.image(100 ,100, '/home/ktenney/Firefox_wallpaper.png') Which worked on a dbus branch a while back. Now it starts inkscape, but does not place the image - was the dbus code merged? - if so, how do I enable/use it? - if not, where is dbus capable code? Thanks, Kent

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Error while building 9775 on windows
by Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

After R19 of devlibs everything is fine. Got a new completely rebuild. Thanks Krzysztof Sincerely, UweSch The build problem introduced in trunk revision 9775 should be fixed with devlibs revision 19; they now contain libxml2 2.7.7 built against iconv and zlib from the devlibs. Regards, Krzysztof ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nokia and AT&T present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps & games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel -- Mit freundlichem Gruß, Uwe Schöler

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Error while building 9775 on windows
by Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com 24 Sep '10

24 Sep '10

Hi, i get the following error: Make error line 299: problem compiling: src/xml/repr-io.cpp: In function 'Inkscape::XML::Document* sp_repr_read_file(const gchar*, const gchar*)': src/xml/repr-io.cpp:297: error: 'XML_PARSE_HUGE' was not declared in this scope Can someone else build 9775 on windows? Sincerely, Uwe Schöler

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Bug reports in portuguese
by Felipe Sanches 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

The brazilian inkscape community is very active. But lots of people are not familiar with english. So there seems to be a need for a community effort to proxy their bug reports and feature requests into our official bugtracker (by translating them into english). I am not sure whether launchpad has a feature to enable that. But I would like to install a launchpad server to host bug reports in portuguese and I'd like to know whether there is some feature that would help us keep some kind of relation between equivalent bugs in both systems so that we can minimize the human effort to keep both systems fairly synchronized. I'd like to have bug status, tags, metadata, etc.. all shared and synchronized so that the only human effort would be the actual translation of user comments. But if we dont have such features, I still would like to try to setup the best system we can in order to allow greater user participation. Felipe "Juca" Sanches

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] funding inkscape developement
by Björn Göransson 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

LyX has some kind of mechanism for jointly donating towards the implementation of a specific feature. http://www.lyx.org/Donate With a bit of googling there seem to be quite a number of sites for > arranging freelance work like this. I don't know if anyone here has an > experience with such a site or would be able to recommend one, but my > guess would be that it might be easiest and most transparent to just > post your requests on such a site and announce it here, especially if > you also want to let others donate. > -- Med vänlig hälsning, Björn A. Göransson

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Accessing Inkscape document data as it is generated
by David Yip 23 Sep '10

23 Sep '10

Hello all, Haven't posted a message here in a long time -- hope things are going well! I've received a message asking about the best way to access Inkscape's document data as it's changed. His project involves serving document data from Inkscape to locally-running programs, for which he plans to use DBus. The questioner prefers to remain anonymous for now. My initial response recommended implementing Inkscape::UndoStackObserver, much as Inkboard did, as it's an easy way to obtain a stream of transactions on the document. However, questioner's concern with this approach was that listening for changes on the undo stack wouldn't capture intermediate states of actions, e.g. motion along a path. He brought up another possibility, which was to send changes in batches at short intervals (using, say, Inkscape::XML::NodeObserver). I'm no longer familiar enough with the Inkscape codebase to give an opinion on how well this would work, nor do I know if there's been any changes in the past few years that would make this sort of thing easier. Can anyone help out? I can offer clarifications as necessary. Thanks, - David

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] our logo in EPS
by Guillermo Espertino 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

May I ask why EPS? Even the position of its creator is to move forward to PDF. I usually find myself trying to import/export proprietary formats but if I send the "wrong" format to my providers they ask me to export it again in their preferred format. I wonder why we have to worry about this and not them, since we can do PDF or even SVG (which doesn't seem to be very well supported by some commercial and people can't complain, by the way). I know saying this won't solve anything and it's not very helpful, just my two cents.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Error while building 9775 on windows
by Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com 22 Sep '10

22 Sep '10

Do difference :( > -----Original Message----- > From: bulia byak [mailto:buliabyak@...400...] > Sent: 22 September, 2010 22:04 > To: Uwe Schöler - OSS-Marketplace.com; Krzysztof Kosiński > Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Error while building 9775 on windows > > Anyway, I added #include <libxml/parser.h> in rev 9776, see if this > fixes it for you. > > -- > bulia byak It made no difference. Searching, I could not find the constant anywhere in devlibs. Preben ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Start uncovering the many advantages of virtual appliances and start using them to simplify application deployment and accelerate your shift to cloud computing. http://p.sf.net/sfu/novell-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel -- Mit freundlichem Gruß, Uwe Schöler

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.po problem when compiling on Win 32
by Docsonic 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

When I try to compile the source files on a Win32 platform, I get a raft of errors saying that 'keyword msgctxt not found' in file am.po. Each file I delete leads the error onto the next po file until I delete all the po files, the compilation then works properly. This is not a great issue for me as I don't need the translations but it is bound to be a problem for some others. Thanks, Tony -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/.po-problem-when-compiling-on-Win-32-tp29771438p29771… Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Private strings: use of const
by Kris De Gussem 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

A few months ago we had a thread about static code analysis with coverity. However, I have not heard anything from it anymore. So I just installed myself another static code analysis software packet, cppcheck. I played with it a bit and stumbled upon several notifications of functions that could be const. See e.g. the extract of the log: [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\extension.h:122]: (style) The function 'Extension::get_help' can be const [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\param/parameter.h:111]: (style) The function 'Parameter::name' can be const [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\param/parameter.h:116]: (style) The function 'Parameter::get_tooltip' can be const [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\param/parameter.h:119]: (style) The function 'Parameter::get_gui_hidden' can be const [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\dbus\dbus-init.cpp:87]: (style) Unused variable: obj [E:\Inkscapecode\inkscape\src\extension\dbus\dbus-init.cpp:104]: (style) Variable 'error' is assigned a value that is never used So the first item lists line 112 of extension.h: gchar const * get_help (void) { return _help; } which should return the pointer to a string in a private variable. However what should be const? The pointer, the string to which the pointer points to or both? Aparently the pointer should be const, no? (e.g. to ensure that the string can not be deleted in some buggy code that calls get_help, leaving the pointer_help in the class pointing to some odd data chunk?) This would result in: gchar * const get_help (void) { return _help; } Or is there something that I am missing? BTW: this is just an example, the same reasoning is valid for the listings in parameter.h Regards Kris

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Input Device UI
by Hans Meine 21 Sep '10

21 Sep '10

Am Freitag 17 September 2010, 04:56:48 schrieb bulia byak: > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Jon Cruz <jon@...18...> wrote: > > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54403269/xinput-ink-vs-gimp.png > > That image was seriously revelatory! Only from it I figure out that > the new dialog does in fact has a column of "disabled" values - for me > it was completely obscured because the dialog appeared in a narrow > sidebar, and I only saw the list of devices. So now we need to solve > the following problems: > > 1. Make sure this column is always visible. If there are no other values than "screen" and "disabled" (I guess there are), one could even just add checkboxes in *front* of the devide ID. HTH, Hans

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Input Device UI
by Guillermo Espertino 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

My wife has a Genius Pensketch tablet that uses the wizardpen driver in gnu/linux. The driver is provided by the community and have some limitations, like being unable to work with a mouse at the same time (if you use the tablet you lose the ability to use mouse on the work area until you change the stylius from screen to de-activated). If that selector is removed it will render inkscape unusable for people with those tablets who want to use the mouse as well. And there are lots of cheap tablets that only run in linux with that driver. Wacom tablets (and those that use the wacom drivers) don't have that problem and you can safely leave everything set to screen.

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rss generation
by Alexandre Prokoudine 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Hi, While we are waiting for Development Seed guys to start working on the new website, it'd be nice to fix some things on the existing one. One thing that IMO needs fixing is the RSS feed generator. Currently it just compiles all the text it can find into one paragraph, which isn't nice, and loses all HTML links, which is even worse. Could anybody with PHP-Fu please fix that? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape and the future of printing !
by Guillermo Espertino 20 Sep '10

20 Sep '10

Adjusting the colors to the destination gamut seems more acceptable than just de-activating filters since most of the popular CMYK profiles fall pretty much inside the sRGB gamut. The out-of-sRGB-gamut colors can be adjusted using the relative colorimetric intent (probably it would be a good idea to nag the user with a warning when this happens) but in my oppinion as user that's completely acceptable. I agree that allowing untagged CMYK would be a bad idea. Thanks to poor design decisions in popular software packages, users tend to think that the important thing is to have CMYK and color profiles remain like something rather obscure that it shouldn't be touched (i know because I was one of those clueless designers ranting for CMYK knowing nothing about color management :-p) Thanks to being unable to work with early binding with Inkscape and GIMP I got used to late binding and once I saw the benefits I realized that it's better. I finally understood that when designers (like me) ask for CMYK they're actually asking for a way to use black as a spot pass. Pantone colors can be used with both early and late binding. Most of the designers I know use the formula books -which have Lab color values- in an early binding workflow, thinking that they will get the "right" CMYK values and they don't realize that the colors are being mapped to the generic CMYK profile they're using. So, truth to be said, maybe it's better to adopt a late binding worflow with the ability to "force" CMYK values (for blacks/grays or for specific CMYK combinations) rather than worrying too much about how to deal with CMYK and filters and all. >From my user p.o.v. everything seems pretty much ready for a print workflow. We just need to make it more obvious in the UI, and it looks like something that can be achieved improving the fill+stroke dialog and the auto-palette a little. Just my 2 cents.

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