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Inkscape booth at Kielux - help present Inkscape in Kiel!
by Maren Hachmann 22 Jul '19

22 Jul '19

Hi, I'm looking for a second person to staff the Inkscape booth in Kiel at Kieler Open Source und Linux Tage on September 20th and 21st this year. As I'm also presenting at and co-organizing the event, it would be really good if there were someone else who can help, even if only for a few hours. You don't need to be an expert in Inkscape, but you should bring some motivation and enthusiasm for the program and its capabilities. More info about the event is available at: https://kielux.de There will also be some very interesting talks and workshops, and you'll have direct access to Inkscape stickers (at least those are planned) and fresh info about the latest developments :) If you'd like to join me, please reply to this email! Hope to hear from you Maren

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Re: moderators need ability to curate the description in gallery
by Josh Andler 15 Jul '19

15 Jul '19

Ok. I will go ahead and file it either tonight or in the morning. Once I've done that I'll link it here so anyone following can make sure my request looks right and add any notes they deem appropriate. Cheers, Josh On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 1:21 PM Martin Owens <doctormo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Sun, 2019-07-14 at 12:34 -0700, Josh Andler wrote: > > Including your email in case you haven't followed this thread. What > > are your thoughts on this? > > Hi Josh, > > I think this is a reasonable moderation request. A tool that could be > added, it would probably edit the urls in the text, since they get > auto-converted in the template. But changing the colon to a semi colon > should do the trick. > > If this is the settled solution, an issue should be made in the > inkscape-web tracker. > > Best Regards, Martin Owens > >

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moderators need ability to curate the description in gallery
by brynn 14 Jul '19

14 Jul '19

Hi Friends, Reference the 3 images uploaded by this member: https://inkscape.org/~yendrifernando/ The images appear to be made with Inkscape, but in my opinion, the links in the description are spam. As a moderator, I would like to be able to edit the description (via Curate) and remove only the "www.". In that way, the description still tributes the inspiration for the images to that website (as the member appears to intend), without having an active link to the website. Breaking the link removes the spam. Martin and I have had an extended private discussion about this. But he disagrees with giving moderators the ability to edit the description. He says that we need to have a community discussion about it. I'll have to be honest and say that I don't understand his position, or even really know exactly what his position is. Even if I did, I wouldn't try to represent it. So he'll have to do that. Our discussion ranged far and wide over moderation subjects, but none of his arguments really hit home to me, as a good reason not to allow moderators to edit (curate) the description. So it seems we've hit a stalemate. I'll be honest again and say that I'm not sure if the purpose of this discussion is to repeat our discussion publicly, or just to get opinions on curating the description. Because a lot of his concerns seemed to be about potentially overly aggressive moderation. Or maybe it's both? But I think I'm a fair moderator and can train fair moderators, so I'm ready either way :-) Martin, I hope this is a fair introduction of the issue? All best, brynn

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board meeting postponed
by Marc Jeanmougin 12 Jul '19

12 Jul '19

Since a lot of board members can't attend this week's board meeting, it will be postponed to *next week* : July 12, 10AM EST (7pm european time) Thanks, -- Marc

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Re: Inkscape files-svg auto converted to png and now unusable.
by Andrew Kurn 10 Jul '19

10 Jul '19

On Wed 10 Jul 2019 03:48 -0000, manoj.bhargav333(a)gmail.com wrote: > > I am a senior professional and work as a fine art illustrator, mostly rasters on gimp. > I do use Inkscape alongside. > since a couple of years i am working on patient education in hindi booklets 7 have more than 50 titles booklets to be published, 10 pages of 3x11" each. Illustrations, diagrams with devnagari text. Two points: > My laptop lost its display and crashed with Ubuntu 19 and while converting os What OS did you convert to? Ubuntu again? Do I understand that the laptop disk was readable, so that you could transfer files to the new machine? > I found my svg files are mere png's and uneditable. Specifically, do you say that files with the /svg/ extension were not SVG files? Or that they were SVG, but without vector data, perhaps lists of pixels. If you do not know how to answer, we may need to see an example file. Andrew

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Inkscape files-svg auto converted to png and now unusable.
by manoj.bhargav333＠gmail.com 10 Jul '19

10 Jul '19

I am a senior professional and work as a fine art illustrator, mostly rasters on gimp. I do use Inkscape alongside. since a couple of years i am working on patient education in hindi booklets 7 have more than 50 titles booklets to be published, 10 pages of 3x11" each. Illustrations, diagrams with devnagari text. My laptop lost its display and crashed with Ubuntu 19 and while converting os I found my svg files are mere png's and uneditable. Anyone have experienced similar problem or an explanation/help, please respond. Years of hard work is unreachable. Help recover it. Thanks.

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help setting up gl notifications
by brynn 09 Jul '19

09 Jul '19

Hi Friends, I'm having trouble setting up notifications for GitLab properly. I want to be notified whenever a bug I've reported has been changed. And otherwise, whenever someone tags my name with @. So far, I get notified about Vectors team stuff whenever someone uses @all or @brynn. But I haven't gotten a single notification about a bug report. Not even when I post a new bug report. I would have thought Global Notification would trump all else. But there are other options below that (for Groups and Projects). So obviously global doesn't trump everything, but in that case, I don't understand how to decide how to set anything. What exactly does global mean for gitlab? Part of the trouble I'm having is that when I look at the main Inkscape page, it has Subgroups and Projects, and lists 13 different items. But up in the dark blue bar at the top, is has dropdown lists for Projects and Groups. None of these 3 areas seem to be consistent. For example, why is the main Inkscape project a Group rather than a Project? And if groups are the highest level, why don't they have Groups first in the bar, rather than 2nd? And if Group is the highest level, why is the Vectors team a Group too? And then when I look at the Notifications page for settings, it has Groups and Projects separate, but it does not identify all the groups or projects in which I've participated, and there isn't any way to add more on my own. So all that makes it very hard to sort things out intuitively. Could someone just tell what to mark, to make sure I get notified about - any change to to a bug report of mine (or reports I subscribe to, if that's possible (so far, I don't see how to subscribe)) - @brynn Related - When someone migrates one of my bug reports, it's listed under their name. How can I still get notified about changes to those? Do I have to make a reply or mark something? Thank you very much, brynn

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Environment variables used by Inkscape
by Patrick Storz 08 Jul '19

08 Jul '19

Hi all, as I believe there's no real list of important environment variables used by Inkscape and it's dependencies I just put together http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Environment_variables I hope this will be of help to everybody running Inkscape (users and developers alike) and prove as a useful reference. Feel free to add and improve as desired! Cheers, Patrick

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Join us in 10 hours for the July Vectors Meeting!
by Ryan Gorley 06 Jul '19

06 Jul '19

Hello All, Please consider yourself invited to join our Vectors Team meeting tomorrow (perhaps today for some). Details are here: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/119 On the agenda is ratifying a process for selecting our Vectors Team Organizer. If you want someone who sends out reminders a little earlier than this, here is your chance to help make that happen! ;) I hope you can make it! Ryan

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Information Request
by stephen.lohning＠oxnee.com 01 Jul '19

01 Jul '19

I would like to develop an extension to start with in python 3+ on windows, and I am not very sure of where to start. I just read the extension requirements which said the extensions need python 2. It also said that it was a little out of date. If need be I would be willing to modify it for python 3. I have programmed C/ C++ and half a dozen other languages over the years, my main problem is that I don't have a compiler for Window. I do have a Centos 7 machine which I could set up a dev environment, but my use is on a windows system. My aim is to do away with my need for MS Visio which I don't like very much and do my drawing parametrically. Regards Stephen

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New feature for master
by Jabier Arraiza 28 Jun '19

28 Jun '19

Hi all. I want to know if is good merge this branch into master. Code wise is done there is only some icons to fix and complete the great collection done by Adam Belis. Also want to know about defaulting if finished the icon set at time to substitute current default icons. Here is a video of the feature working: https://chat.inkscape.org/channel/team_ux?msg=xCidGRBhRfSYfyCNM And here are the MR: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/745 Bye!!!!

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Mailing list neither enabled or disabled
by Terry Brown 21 Jun '19

21 Jun '19

Perhaps this happened to a lot of people and maybe it's been discussed, but I dropped off inkscape-devel and inkscape-users. I think I signed up for the new lists as soon as I saw the announcement, but checking my settings just now the radio buttons Delivery status: Enabled [ ] Disabled [ ] were both off, the mailing list was neither enabled or disabled. Wonder if it happened to others. Fixed from my point of view now. Cheers -Terry

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development
by Andrew Kurn 19 Jun '19

19 Jun '19

I'd like to ask your advice on how to set up a development environment for Inks. Can I do it on an old 32-bit machine? Can I do it on a Raspberry Pi? Can I do it with just gcc and make? If there is someone who is willing to answer questions of this type, perhaps you would like to mentor me. Andrew

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TV coverage on LGM
by Maren Hachmann 11 Jun '19

11 Jun '19

Hi everyone, I just got a reply from Agnès from K8, about the press coverage. Starting at ~ 24:00 of https://www.sr-mediathek.de/index.php?seite=7&id=74463 , there's a TV report about the mapathon before LGM, which ends with pictures of some charitable open source graphics software developers (aka Mc, @jnweiger and @mgmax ) around minute 27. She wrote that a team from the French TV was there, too, but that their report isn't available yet. When it will be released, that will be at https://www.tv8.fr/VOD/Grenzenlos/09-05-2019-grenzenlos-TME4BFMq1i.html. Regards Maren ------------ > > Hallo Maren, > > hier den Link zum SR-Bericht: > https://www.sr-mediathek.de/index.php?seite=7&id=74463 > > Aus Frankreich war der lokale Sender TV8 Moselle Est da aber der > Bericht ist noch nicht online. Er wird Teil der Sendung "Grenzenlos" > sein. Hier den Link zur Sendung, man soll halt etwas Geduld haben... > https://www.tv8.fr/VOD/Grenzenlos/09-05-2019-grenzenlos-TME4BFMq1i.html > > Liebe Grüße Agnès

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upcoming opening of new Inkscape forum
by brynn 09 Jun '19

09 Jun '19

Hi Friends, The Inkscape website will be opening a new forum in August 2019. The primary purpose of the forum will be providing support for Inkscape, but it will serve the whole project and community, in whatever way it can. It will function in much the same way that InkscapeForum.com (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/index.php) and Inkscape Community's forum (https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?action=forum) currently do. Concurrently to opening the new forum, Inkscape Community's forum will essentially close. All of its forum traffic will be diverted to the new forum (although its tutorials and other resources will remain available). Since the Inkscape project has lost contact with the owner of InkscapeForum.com we assume it will remain open. Please make plans to change your forum bookmarks, and to visit the new forum in August. If you're not already registered on the Inkscape website, you will need to register. Once you're logged in to the website, you're also logged in to the forum. We will be thrilled to welcome you, and to provide the same quality of support you're accustomed to! Here is the link to the new forum. Although please note that posting will not be allowed until August. But you can look around and see everything about how it works, except for posting a message. https://inkscape.org/forums/ If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. All best, brynn

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forum rules finalized, message posted
by brynn 09 Jun '19

09 Jun '19

Hi Friends, Since we've had a volunteer to hear escalated complaints re the CoC (thanks C R !!), I was able to finalize and post the forum rules and guidelines. I made the sticky forum post about this. If anyone has any comments or suggestions about what I wrote, please let me know and I'll edit it. https://inkscape.org/forums/forum-news/forum-rules/ (Note that you can't post in the forum yet.) All best, brynn

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Board meeting Friday Jun 7th at 10am Pacific
by Bryce Harrington 08 Jun '19

08 Jun '19

Our monthly board meeting is scheduled for Friday, Jun 7th, at 10am Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members are welcome. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings Agenda: ------- * CoC: escalation point person needed * Hackfest debrief [http://libregraphicsmeeting.org/2019/ LGM 2019] * Infrastructure ** mailing list migration off SourceForge ** Wiki migration off OSUOSL * GSoC * Other Business ** CoC Escalation Point *** Need someone to handle escalated complaints re CoC, since Krzysztof Kosiński has resigned. Hopefully someone with training or experience with conflict resolution or mediation. Not much time needed, probably would never happen, but need to be ready just in case. Currently it's vacant. ** Forums: Should a job postings area be included? *** Discuss the possibility of having something like a jobs board on the new forum. Something similar to https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php?board=12.0 Would need strict rules to prevent misuse, spam, liability, etc. Action Items from last meeting: ------------------------------- == Bug Migration == ♢ ACTION: (Blocked) Check with SFC if amounts of $100 / $50 / $25 for 1st, 2nd, 3rd is within IRS limits [bryce] ♢ ACTION: (Blocked) Hold referendum on top game prizes after confirmed by SFC [bryce] == Inkscape 1.0 beta == ♢ ACTION: Check in with people doing test case conversion [Tav] ♢ ACTION: ping jimmac/barbara about the symbolic icons for adding the theme to Inkscape [scislac] ♢ ACTION: Plan video for Inkscape 1.0 release [crogers] ♢ ACTION: Brainstorm plans for 1.0beta / 1.0 commemorative merch [crogers, tedg] === Sponsorship Management === ♢ ACTION: Find out about the new event insurance from #conservancy [tedg] Transcripts of previous meetings: --------------------------------- http://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/ Bryce

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Profiling Inkscape startup performance
by octycs 08 Jun '19

08 Jun '19

Hello everyone, While I'm an Inkscape user for some years now, I'm fairly new to it from a developer point of view. In terms of performance, I've been recently doing some analysis with the help of cpu profiling tools. My aim in this mail is to present some of the things I noticed and maybe some ideas how to improve them. The tools I've been using are the gperftools and more recently the linux performance tool `perf` together with FlameGraphs (Disclaimer: Since I've been using them for the first time I don't have a deep knowledge about them). Both tools can capture the stack at a timed interval, so it is possible to estimate how much time is spent in different functions. These can be visualized for example by a flame graph which I found quite handy. In theses graphs the x-axis shows the stack records alphabetically sorted (not chronologically) and if possible merged. The y-axis shows the call stack. Recording the startup of Inkscape just until before the Window shows up[1] results in the attached results[2]. The original file is an SVG file (Note: This is a large interactive SVG and primarily intended to be opened in a browser[3]). By looking at the result I identified some parts that might be of interest (See annotated PNG file). - A - (100ms): Based on some individual function calls (e.g. get_preferred_width) I assume this is related to the layout calculations. Noteworthy is here that the stack mostly has a depth of up to 80-90 frames. I don't know whether this is usual for gtk, but for me this looks like the calculation of the layout might get very complex. Maybe it is possible in some places to simplify the layout (I'm referring e.g. to [4]). While this part only takes around 100ms in this record, the actual impact could be larger because the recording stops just before the window shows up. However, even after it shows there is a noticeable delay until it gets responsive. - B - (170ms): This part is the setup of the toolboxes at the top. I find interesting here that with the exception of the TextToolbar, each Toolbar only takes 5-10ms to load, but because there are so many of them, they sum up over 100ms (again without the TextToolbar). One idea I'll therefore try to look into in the next time is whether it is possible to lazy-load them, so that the GUI relevant initialization only runs as soon as required (when the tool is used the first time). Since most toolbars initialize in up to 10ms the delay is insignificant when clicking on a tool. - C and D - (65ms / 80ms): These relate to the initialization of the menu resp. the DesktopWidget. I haven't had a much closer look yet, but both take longer than I assumed. There might be some optimizations possible as well (e.g. I noticed SwatchesPanel::_rebuild is called at least twice, each running nearly 20ms). - E - (260ms): The last section is about loading the extensions. I don't know a lot about the extensions system now and the future plans, but I also wouldn't have expected this part to take that much time. - Looking further - The attached recording of the startup here is of course only a part of interesting parts for optimization (And there are also a lot of parts that I cannot identify with certainty). One second aspect I want to look more into is for example the fill and stroke dialog, which takes up to 600ms to load (not part of the attached profiling) because all marker images are expensively loaded and rendered as SPObjects at runtime. And if it is open on startup this time adds up to the delay before the window even shows up. -- All in all I admit that this a rather chaotic collection of maybe or maybe not promising parts for performance optimizations. This surely only touches the surface of possible analysis and improvements, but I wanted to share this early because maybe you have some ideas as well (or there were some things done in the past that I don't know of). If you have any feedback I'd appreciate it a lot. Best regards, octycs [1] I did this by calling exit just before `InkscapeApplication::window_open` returns. [2] The results still have parts that are marked as "[unknown]". I tried solving this by passing "-fno-omit-frame-pointer" (see FlameGraph documentation for more), but this did not have an effect. Though this could also be because cmake automatically re-ran when I started building. [3] Direct link: https://octycs.eu/static/shared/190608_perf_startup_999hz.svg [4] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/issues/9#note_132218218

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Build time vs. Dev time extensions
by unknown＠example.com 08 Jun '19

08 Jun '19

Dear developers, Thanks to Tav's for his excellent hackfest overview which related general annoyance about extensions, it pointed to Uniconvertor being a particular issue. I'm sorry I wasn't at the meeting to talk about the issues around packaging extensions more directly. So I'm hoping this email can fill in for that and get some of the information I would have conveyed at the meeting. I won't speak to the API breaking, since Thomas and others have done very good work making sure that the API has greater backwards compatibility and is much less likely to break in older code. (now) But the specific issue here is about how we ship different extensions. There has historically been a fixed relationship between the `share/extensions` directory and what we ship. When we moved the extensions into their own repository, we included the git as a sub module to continue this relationship. But as development has progressed, it's become clear that there's way too much variability to both have a solid extensions project and keep this fixed one to one relationship. Take Uniconvertor as an example. It's a bunch of extensions that call software which must already be installed to work. Which are both important to Inkscape and impossible to corral into a standard code quality framework. They've been moved to[1] so they can be developed separately to provide them with more latitude. Now this breaks the build time assumptions about what is in the share/extensions directory at dev time. Because now we have a situation where packagers are not guaranteed to have all the extensions they may want to ship. But this must be so, because while the core extensions should provide a stable API, the doc callers for the help menu and basic extensions; other extensions are often not written in python, have no tests, don't have code quality checks, use external programs which may not be installed and are even only used on windows (but we ship them to linux users currently). The future of extensions will be the extension-manager[2] which will allow inkscape users to install extra functionality[3] without requiring Inkscape to ship quite so many extensions by default. You can see Uniconvertor extensions packaged on test pypi here for a flavour of what this would look like[4]. (The plan for 1.0 is to ship the manager as a stand alone app that can be installed separately for testing) But before that glorious future; all Inkscape packagers need to be able to bundle in extensions different locations so that they can package in all the things their users will need. This should provide them with far more power to decide what's important than currently, where extensions are denied from installers because of developer reasons. I do not know how packagers wish to do this. Linux packagers may want to link to uniconvertor as a recommends package with it's own dependencies (which would be good). Windows and Mac may want to literally include the code into their distribution. (I'm hoping this email can spark a discussion so we can get the tooling right for all packager types). So far I feel that I've ruffled feathers by removing extensions. But I don't believe that the build time extensions are the same thing as the developer time core extensions and I hope this email goes some way to laying out the logic for this and why it would make the Inkscape project stronger to do it this way. Best Regards, Martin Owens 1. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extras/extensions-uniconvertor 2. https://gitlab.com/inkscape/extension-manager 3. https://twitter.com/realdoctormo/status/1134107821249847298 4. https://test.pypi.org/project/inkscape-uniconvertor/

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Vectors Meeting (T-Minus 10 hours)
by Ryan Gorley 08 Jun '19

08 Jun '19

Hello All, It's that time of month <https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Inkscape+Vectors+…> when we get together and discuss Vectors items. On the agenda are team elections, LGM, fundraising, the new forum, and more. The location is the #team_vectors channel of our chat. For more details visit: https://gitlab.com/inkscape/vectors/general/issues/119 Come join us! Ryan

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Launch Ikscape with default theme
by jEsuSdA 8) 06 Jun '19

06 Jun '19

Hi! I still making an Inkscape course documentation and I need to do some screenshots. I want the screenshots be as Inkscape default appearance, but I can't do that cause my desktop (Debian GNU/Linux + XFCE) is configured with an icon theme. This theme. So, when I launch Inkscape it looks great with these nice icons, but it is not a good idea to teach newbies using Inkscape screenshots that does not looks like his running inkscapes. How I can start Inkscape ignoring my environment icon theme. Thanks a lot!

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Fwd: Extension request: Auto-generate rectangles based on input values
by Ibrahim Duz 05 Jun '19

05 Jun '19

Dear dev community members, I am not sure whether this is the right way to ask for it. But I would like to make an extension (feature) request for a client of mine who uses your application. He is using Inkscape on a daily basis and doing a lot of repetitive actions in the program for which we thought an extension would be a good solution to reduce the time in his work. This is basically what he wants: He wants to fill 3 values: Width x Height x Depth (maybe in a popup) Based on these 3 values, 7 rectangles need to be created based on some calculation on the values he entered. I have added an example outcome of what he wants to be produced. All other values can be calculated based on the initial 3 values he enters. Is there anyone from the dev team who can help us out and discuss about the further requirements? Hope to hear from you. Keep up the good work! Kind regards, Ibrahim Duz <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campai…> <#m_2206815133251637354_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

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[deb@...3057...: We want your stickers and your news!]
by Bryce Harrington 29 May '19

29 May '19

Chris, can you touch base with Deb regarding stickers? Michele, can you give Deb a summary of recent news items from Inkscape for the SFC blog? Bryce ----- Forwarded message from Deb Nicholson <deb@...3057...> ----- Date: Wed, 29 May 2019 11:49:16 -0400 From: Deb Nicholson <deb@...3057...> To: project-reps@...3057... Subject: We want your stickers and your news! Hi all, It is about to be "conference season" again. Conservancy will have a booth at OSCON and All Things Open along with some other events over the next six months and maybe you'll also be attending some events? Anyway, we have three quick asks: 1) We'd love to share your project stickers when we table, so please send us some! Just email me and we'll figure out who's closest to you for mailing. 2) If you are low on stickers or materials for your own use, let us know so we can get you squared away well before conference season! We can absolutely re-order stuff like that for you, as long as you've got the artwork on file. 3) We'd love to hear about the events you're attending, talks you're giving or have given and the events you're hosting so we can share them on the monthly "news round-up" posts on our website. Examples here: https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2019/may/28/may2019RU/ https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2019/apr/17/apr2019RU/ As always, feel free to reach out with any questions or just to share any plans or ideas you have for promoting your project. We're here to help. Best, Deb -- Deb Nicholson <deb@...3057...> Software Freedom Conservancy ----- End forwarded message -----

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OpenClipart
by unknown＠example.com 29 May '19

29 May '19

Devels, Do we have any details on what happened to OpenClipart.org? It's an important resource for Inkscape users and it's one we have embedded into our software, but has been down for a very long time. Is there anything we can do to help? Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Inkscape 1.0 updated (tentative) release schedule
by Marc Jeanmougin 29 May '19

29 May '19

Hi all! After some discussions at the hackfest we came up with an updated release plan, for a release early september: - As soon as possible: 1.0~alpha2 - Between mid-june and end of june (when toolbar and immediately noticeable bugs are fixed): 1.0~beta - End of June: Feature freeze and 1.0 branch - End of July: String freeze - Between mid-june and mid-august: bug hunt! Early september: release ! Any remarks on this plan are welcome :) -- Mc

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