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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-user] Can't do 2 simple things
by MenTaLguY 10 Feb '07

10 Feb '07

On Wed, 2007-02-07 at 19:54 +0100, Ulf Erikson wrote: > What about two options that let you "see hidden objects" and "select > locked objects"? That would let you see and select any hidden or locked > objects as if they were normal objects. I like this idea -- it's less of a blunt instrument than "unlock all". -mental

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Inkscape on OLPC?
by Jon Phillips 10 Feb '07

10 Feb '07

Heya, one of my top priority projects at CC now is OLPC. I talked with the pres. of software and content, Walter Bender today and I intro'd myself and mentioned Inkscape, and he immediately said, "Oh cool, I use Inkscape all the time. Want to port it to Sugar?" "Sugar is the core of the OLPC Human Interface. Its goal is to turn the Laptop into a fun, easy to use, social experience that promotes sharing and learning." http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar Has anyone tried to build Inkscape with Sugar? Is anyone interested in doing this? It is a cool thing to have happen, as they are needing a drawing program, and this could help us springboard into the process of refactoring and lib'ification more, as the device has memory/space limits and a targeted demographic, kids. I started a wiki page on it for anyone who is interested: http://wiki.inkscape.org:8080/wiki/index.php/OLPC Would anyone like to help? If so, I can possibly get a development system for use/testing, although I believe there is a livecd of current builds (based on fedora core 6) and a test environment that can be run locally... Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897...

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Build System
by Aaron Spike 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

How many of us understand how autoconf and friends work? How many are able to effectively edit and maintain the build process? I spent a few days during the 0.45 dev cycle working to add soft linking for libssl. Most of my time was spent in total confusion. And when I asked around no one among us was able to give much help. I find this a little scary. And I wonder if there isn't a different build system out there that more of us could become proficient in. For lib2geom Verbalshadow decided to give CMake a try. I'm not sure what led to this decision. I think he looked at Scons and a few others first. Maybe because a huge project like KDE is using it. I found out recently that our sister project Scribus is also switching to CMake. You can read their happy rants: http://rants.scribus.net/2006/05/20/cmake-rocks/ http://rants.scribus.net/2006/05/20/cmake-certainly-does-rock/ http://rants.scribus.net/2006/07/16/a-little-help-from-your-friends/ Verbal and I have been pretty able to take care of things with CMake. But I'm not sure I can make a recommendation for or against anything because I really don't know that much about build systems. We also have Bob's build system to consider. I'll let him give you the details. I'd like to use this thread to enumerate our needs for a build system. And I'd like to request some volunteers to help me evaluate any alternatives we find. The general needs I know about are: - maintainable by our team - crossplatform support - availability to our end users Build systems I know of include: - gnu auto* (what is the proper name?) - Bob's buildtool - Scons - Cmake People interested in finding and evaluating a new build system: - Aaron Spike Please add to these lists. Aaron Spike

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Info about source code of 0.45
by Federico 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

Hello I wanted to know if the present codes source to the address http://inkscape.modevia.com/svn-snap/?M=D is the source code of the inkscape 0.45 published in these days at sourceforge. Becouse I succeed to compile this packages under windows correctly while the packakes at the address http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? group_id=93438&package_id=99112 not compiling under windows. Federico Naviga e telefona senza limiti con Tiscali Scopri le promozioni Tiscali adsl: navighi e telefoni senza canone Telecom http://abbonati.tiscali.it/adsl/

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Fwd: Build System
by Joshua Blocher 09 Feb '07

09 Feb '07

On 2/7/07, Kees Cook <kees@...62...> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 06:12:56PM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: > > I think it would be great to see the following build system problems > > solved: [snip] > > I'll throw in my $0.02 too... If the current build system were replaced, > I'd like to not lose one specific feature: fully parallel builds. At > present, given the "single Makefile in src/", I can actually use all 4 > CPUs to do compiles, etc. I don't want to regress to having a separate > Makefile in every subdirectory. :) I will have to look into this but i don't there will be a problem with using all available processors to compile. As to the seperate Makefiles in every subdirectory they would be a cmakelist.txt but they would all be included into the main cmakelist.txt in the src directory. this can be avoid by setting all the sub-projects in the same cmakelist.txt file but doing this IMO would make the build files a more of a hassle to work with. Joshua L. Blocher verbalshadow > > -- > Kees Cook @outflux.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier. > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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moo I mean foo
by Esteban Barahona 08 Feb '07

08 Feb '07

buddha dharma sangha jhana /*"last message"*/ -- http://www.zensui.org

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Build error
by Loi 08 Feb '07

08 Feb '07

I just got an error while building the latest trunk revision of inkscape. Configure Options were: ./configure --prefix=$HOME/INKSCAPE --with-gnome-vfs --enable-binreloc --enable-inkboard --with-python --disable-lcms gc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/libpng12 -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I../cxxtest -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT extension/internal/ps.o -MD -MP -MF "extension/internal/.deps/ps.Tpo" -c -o extension/internal/ps.o `test -f 'extension/internal/ps.cpp' || echo './'`extension/internal/ps.cpp; \ then mv -f "extension/internal/.deps/ps.Tpo" "extension/internal/.deps/ps.Po"; else rm -f "extension/internal/.deps/ps.Tpo"; exit 1; fi extension/internal/ps.cpp:46:36: error: gtk/gtkprintunixdialog.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden extension/internal/ps.cpp:108: error: variable or field 'unix_print_complete' declared void extension/internal/ps.cpp:108: error: 'GtkPrintJob' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:108: error: 'print_job' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:109: error: expected primary-expression before 'user_data' extension/internal/ps.cpp:110: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token extension/internal/ps.cpp:110: error: 'error' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:110: error: initializer expression list treated as compound expression extension/internal/ps.cpp:111: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token extension/internal/ps.cpp: In function 'void Inkscape::Extension::Internal::unix_print_dialog(const gchar*, const gchar*)': extension/internal/ps.cpp:118: error: 'gtk_print_unix_dialog_new' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:129: error: 'GtkPrinter' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:129: error: 'printer' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:129: error: 'GTK_PRINT_UNIX_DIALOG' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:129: error: 'gtk_print_unix_dialog_get_selected_printer' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:131: error: 'gtk_printer_get_name' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:133: error: 'gtk_printer_accepts_ps' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:134: error: 'GtkPrintJob' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:134: error: 'job' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:135: error: 'gtk_print_unix_dialog_get_settings' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:136: error: 'gtk_print_unix_dialog_get_page_setup' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:136: error: 'gtk_print_job_new' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:140: error: 'gtk_print_job_set_source_file' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp:142: error: 'gtk_print_job_send' was not declared in this scope extension/internal/ps.cpp: At global scope: extension/internal/ps.cpp:116: warning: 'void Inkscape::Extension::Internal::unix_print_dialog(const gchar*, const gchar*)' defined but not used make[2]: *** [extension/internal/ps.o] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/loi/src/inkscape/inkscape/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/loi/src/inkscape/inkscape' make: *** [all] Fehler 2

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0.45 release pickup
by Bryce Harrington 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi all, Searching for 'inkscape' on news.google.com shows a couple news items: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2007/2/prweb502902.htm http://svg.org/story/2007/2/5/182623/3069 Also, we've made the feature freeze date for Ubuntu (Feb 8), and so Inkscape 0.45 will be in the new release of Ubuntu, Feisty Fawn. On SourceForge, we've reached the #2 most active project slot. Inkscape 0.45 has already been downloaded over 25,000 times, not counting the .exe package (traditionally the most popular). We're getting a bit of an upsurge in bug reports, so if you have some spare minutes over the next few days, make a habit to peek at the newest bugs in the bug tracker (sort by Open Date with state==Open). Bryce

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distros and flavours of software
by Esteban Barahona 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

I have noticed that FOSS is basically an "anarchist" way of developing software. Some "natural order" is required. Fractal art is also "anarchist", but it's beautiful. Imagine a base InkScape cross-platform package which depends solely on GTK. Now visualize each "fork" as a flavour. A fork in the tree is one for the 3 most used platforms: First Desktop (Macintosh) Free Desktop (GNOME, KDE, the "light desktops") Propietary Desktop (Windows) that's 3 main forks. but let them happen. just keep the same versioning (ie: no preference among platforms). The Adobe folks said something wise, "use the software of your choice in the platform of your choice". Let's grow up, propietary software was never "evil" and there's a triad of main platforms. A triad of main flavours. Each platform has it's own "quirks", but that make each unique. I propose a 4th platform: ZenSUI It's experimental, based on pure OpenGL 2.0, with "legacy dependancies" of GTK and Qt. It will be paid software libre, because I don't want to stop eating. It will NOT use either the desktop methaphor nor the 3D ui metaphor. It will be a 2D, Unix-only, OpenGL-based user interface. It will be Simple, Transparent, Consistent User Interaction (a SUI not a GUI, and not a CLI) It will allow configurability for the 3 "main personas": developer.designer.user and it will use less than 1 GB of memory in a flash drive connected through eSATA (that's the base "ZenSUI computer"). ZenSUI will use an "information metaphor"; it's information centric (no difference between local and external, the user should know that). It will be the first peaceful-anarchist-corporation*1 of 150*2 members or less. And I, as founder, am the first member. There's room for 149 eager, talented software and interaction producers. The name of this community is ZenSUI.Net (not the generic .Net escuse of a language that made Microsoft). The "place of reunion" is www.zensui.org *1 just a term... it can be also FOSS community *2 3*5*10 -- http://www.zensui.org

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OpenUsability and Inkscape
by cedric GEMY 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

Hi all 2 years ago i opened and inkscape account on openusability. Nothingimportant happened there until last weeks. A usability student wants to work on inkscape. We have 2 or 3 weeks before she is ready to work on it, and then make proposal and studies during 3 months. We, me and bryce, already made some proposals to her, but anyone can send me more. It can be usefull one day ;) Plus, we may need some help to implement UI proposal. With some help at the beginning i guess i could work alone with her at the end, any contributor are welcome. cedric

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Inkscape talk
by Daniel Pope 07 Feb '07

07 Feb '07

At the weekend I'm down to give a talk about SVG and Inkscape at my local LUG (Hampshire, UK). Several members of the LUG have expressed an interest, in that they don't know Inkscape but they've heard lots of good things about it. Videos of the talks are recorded and made available through our website and on Google videos. I was just wondering if anyone had any insightful comment they might wish me to convey (about SVG or Inkscape), or perhaps a favourite tip for using Inkscape? I'd be particularly interested in anything which might leave people with the urge to install themselves a copy and have a go. I'd also like to take this opportunity to congratulate everybody for their hard work in getting 0.45 out of the door. Dan

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win32 official packages update
by Aaron Spike 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

I see that some archives for win32 were uploaded last night. Great! I've removed the pre2 exe from the dl page because I think it could do much more harm than good. I hope it being there didn't disuade our win32 packager from uploading an exe for 0.45.0. Oh btw, who is making these win32 packages?!? :-) It would be really great coordinate with you on the matter. There are some win32 packages stuck in the upload queue too. One pre2 build from one of Bryce's attempts. And I notice a 0.45 zip. Is this zip there because the currently active zip is truncated to 1/10th the appropriate size? Whoever you are. Whatever is going on. Please email me and we'll get this settled. Aaron Spike

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0.45 release: lessons learned
by bulia byak 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

1. Do not start the release process until the packagers from all major platforms report that the current SVN builds and works without major problems. 2. Do not cut the final release until the packagers from all major platforms report that they are ready (as in, ready _right now_) to build and upload their binaries. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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www.inkscape.org website change
by Esteban Barahona 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Hi all, To know each other a little better I propose to ad a section of "who made Inkscape" @ www.inkscape.org Since it's Free and Open Source Software (aka FOSS), we don't "get paid". More or less, I don't believe in an ego (read Minsky for more info about the buddhist concept of no-self/anata)... BUT one of the ways of "getting paid" in the hackers (as in software developer of software libre) world is to: be recognized as good software developers. ie: I can put the following line: "human-machine interface software developer of inkscape" in my resume (Curriculum Vitae) to get a job... since (I) "have the habit of eating" ^_^ I propose that we elect some developers and put one 512x512px mini-blog image (at most). I chose to be the last entry (in this year, 2007 CE). ...I don't care about ego. (...flam3s over the Net pass through emptyness, aka insults to me are ignored so don't even try =P). This images can link to our personal websites... etc ...we lose ~75% of communication when chosing "plain text communication" instead of "real-world personal in-the-same-place communication" so, any questions about this simple idea? -- http://www.zensui.org

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coord flip
by Aaron Spike 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Well I think it is about time to work on flipping the coord system. I'm volunteering time. Could someone please volunteer a direction to proceed? Aaron Spike

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Envelope extension fix
by Tavmjong Bah 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Hi, As I reported earlier, the Envelope extension (AKA Summers Night) is broken in 0.44 and 0.45. I finally got time to look at it an the fix is trivial, just deleting a line. Three other lines can also be deleted as they are no longer necessary. It was due to a flip in the y coordinate. Patch attached. Tav

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User Interface for Inkscape 0.5
by Esteban Barahona 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

images are more understandable that words: current ui: http://www.zensui.org/img/Inkscape-default.png proposed ui: http://www.zensui.org/img/Inkscape-clean.png // note that: This change is based on a pure 2Desktop not 3Desktop... ie: not Xgl with "not-necessary" effects... Since a page is a container/box for information (in this case an image) and Inkscape uses standards (SVG, XML) it is apropiate that: Inkscape uses a simplified W3C box model. in the clean/proposed version of the ui (which is color-coded) the following new/changed paremeters are: Background Color = black // Width = variable /* this can be 2 values, width and height ...but they're better as variables */ Border Color = green Border Width = 2px (this paremeter is optional, or can be user-selected to Zero width) Border Height = 2px Box Color = white Box Width = 1000px // aka "page" width Box Height = 700px // aka "page" height favorite-most-used way-of-measure = pixel (...or milimeter, etc) I know Java and some C++ so I can help with some code too... any feedback about the User Interface/Interaction for the new milestone of Inkscape?

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] User Interface for Inkscape 0.5
by Esteban Barahona 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

2007/2/6, Thorsten Wilms <t_w_@...123...>: > > (...) > > I have a hard time understanding what you are about. > Please try to explain in detail what the changes are you want > and why you think they should happen. > Thorsten Wilms, I want the shade effect of all "pages" to go away, to make more clean the interface.

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Windows packages needed
by Bryce Harrington 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

We've got linux and osx packages, so it'd be great to get the win32 packages up soon. I think that's pretty much the only thing remaining for completion of 0.45. Thanks, Bryce

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Release announcements
by Bryce Harrington 06 Feb '07

06 Feb '07

Hi all, Rejon and I have sent out announcements to the various (English) sites we normally notify, but if you know of more places - especially non-English sites - please send them a copy of the announcement too. There are a number of translations of the release announcement available here: http://wiki.inkscape.org:8080/wiki/index.php/ReleaseAnnounce045 Thanks, Bryce

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Inkscape Announces 0.45 Release :: http://www.inkscape.org :: Draw Freely.
by Jon Phillips 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Draw Freely: Inkscape Announces 0.45 Release February 5, 2007 - The Inkscape community today announced the newest version of its cross-platform open source vector graphic drawing software, Inkscape. Inkscape 0.45 features a new Gaussian Blur SVG filter. Sponsored by Google's Summer of Code program, Gaussian Blur allows you to softly and naturally blur any Inkscape objects, including shapes, text, and images. This enables a wide range of photorealistic effects: arbitrarily shaped shades and lights, depth of field, drop shadows, glows, etc. Also, blurred objects can be used as masks for other objects to achieve the "feathered mask" effect. Numerous other new features, enhancements to existing features, and bug fixes have been included. A history dialog allows you to browse your change history. Many new extension effects are added including Pattern along Path and Color Effects. There are performance improvements to rendering speed, on the order of 2-3% in general, and up to 5-10% for drawings using heavy transparency and/or radial gradients. Compositing quality is also improved through the removal of banding seen in gradients. The Inkscape community invites anyone to contribute to the project. The project is now working on the upcoming 0.46 release which will focus on the initial stages of adding SVG animation support, increasing the apps PDF functionality, and other refactoring tasks. On a global scale, Inkscape is pushing for version 0.50 to have full compatibility with SVG Mobile/Tiny. Then, the ultimate large goal is to get to Inkscape 1.0 which will be a fully W3C SVG 1.1 compliant application. The more help the project receives, the faster the aforementioned goals will be accomplished. Download Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X packages: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438 For many more details, see the complete Release Notes for 0.45: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes045 Community submitted screenshots: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/ About Inkscape Inkscape is an open source drawing tool that uses the World Wide Web Consortium's ([[W3C]]) scalable vector graphics format (SVG). Some supported SVG features include basic shapes, paths, text, markers, clones, alpha blending, transforms, gradients, and grouping. In addition, Inkscape supports Creative Commons' metadata, node-editing, layers, complex path operations, text-on-path, text-in-shape, and SVG XML editing. It can also import EPS, <nowiki>PostScript</nowiki>, and most bitmap formats, and exports PNG, PS, PDF and various vector formats. Inkscape's main motivation is to provide the Open Source community with a fully [[W3C]] compliant XML, SVG, and CSS2 drawing tool. Additional work includes conversion of the codebase from <nowiki>C/Gtk</nowiki> to <nowiki>C++/Gtkmm</nowiki>, emphasizing a lightweight core with powerful features added through an extension mechanism, and maintaining a friendly, open, community-oriented development process. Press Contact Jon Phillips jon@...235... +1 510.499.0894

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User Interface Feature Request
by Esteban Barahona 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Hi, Thanks for all the Inkscape developers! If I have to chose just one app in a "dumb terminal" it will be Inkscape! As Interaction/Interface Designer in training, I have one trivial (I guess) feature request for the next major (a là Mac, ie: 3.1 to 3.2) release: current: http://www.zensui.org/img/Inkscape-default.png (proposed) simplified W3C box-inspired edition: http://www.zensui.org/img/Inkscape-clean.png note that the box can use this user configurable names (parameters in code?): background = black border = green content = white the border can be excluded to avoid "feature cripple". Thanks/Metta ^_^ -- http://www.zensui.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Build System
by Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

For all the use I get out of inkscape, I'd like to pitch in with this. I figure it would be a good way to get my feet wet, and I've been hawking this list long enough. The most coding I've done is some really basic php scripting, but I'm somewhat familiar with the basics, so if someone would tell me what to do, I'd be happy to pitch in. I've really no clue where to start. > I'm going to chime in here. > The main reason I picked Cmake was the Build syntax looked > considerable less painfully then most of the other systems out > especially when compared to the Auto* build system. Secondly it is > cross-platform on all the major platforms that we wanted to support > *nix, Windows, MACOSX, and many others as well. And the thrid reason > was I wanted to see if i could do it with a small project looking to > hopefully build enough knowledge to attempt something like Inkscape. > > I think a Handful of dedicated People could have all of the build > system converted > in a week or two at most. With only one or two working part time on it > the outside of a month. And that is people with no knowledge of how > Cmake build system works. If we could borrow some experts from the > Scribus team or some other Cmake knowledgeable group it would go much > faster. > > I'm of course willing to help to convert to whatever system we decide > on, but Cmake would be my choice. Whatever help I can give. It should > be noted that i have piss poor access to web for the time being and > the foreseeable future. > > > Joshua L. Blocher > verbalshadow >

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Inkscape Announces 0.45 Release
by Bryce Harrington 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Inkscape Announces 0.45 Release http://www.inkscape.org :: Draw Freely. The Inkscape community today announces the newest version of its vector graphic drawing software. Inkscape 0.45 features a new Gaussian Blur SVG filter. Sponsored by Google's Summer of Code program, Gaussian Blur allows you to softly and naturally blur any Inkscape objects, including shapes, text, and images. This enables a wide range of photorealistic effects: arbitrarily shaped shades and lights, depth of field, drop shadows, glows, etc. Also, blurred objects can be used as masks for other objects to achieve the "feathered mask" effect. Numerous other new features, enhancements to existing features, and bug fixes have been included. A history dialog allows you to browse your change history. Many new extension effects are added including Pattern along Path and Color Effects. There have been performance improvements to rendering speed, on the order of 2-3% in general, and up to 5-10% for drawings using heavy transparency and/or radial gradients. Compositing quality is also improved through the removal of banding seen in gradients. Download Linux, Windows, and Mac OS X packages: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438 For many more details, see the complete Release Notes for 0.45: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_Notes045 Community submitted screenshots: http://www.inkscape.org/screenshots/ About Inkscape ============== Inkscape is an open source drawing tool that uses the World Wide Web Consortium's (W3C) scalable vector graphics format (SVG). Some supported SVG features include basic shapes, paths, text, markers, clones, alpha blending, transforms, gradients, and grouping. In addition, Inkscape supports Creative Commons' metadata, node-editing, layers, complex path operations, text-on-path, text-in-shape, and SVG XML editing. It can also import EPS, PostScript, and most bitmap formats, and exports PNG, PS, PDF and various vector formats. Inkscape's main motivation is to provide the Open Source community with a fully W3C compliant XML, SVG, and CSS2 drawing tool. Additional work includes conversion of the codebase from C/Gtk to C++/Gtkmm, emphasizing a lightweight core with powerful features added through an extension mechanism, and maintaining a friendly, open, community-oriented development process.

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Crash handler locks X
by Daniel Pope 05 Feb '07

05 Feb '07

Sometimes Inkscape crashes while performing an operation that grabs the X pointer. It displays the crash handler window but the Ok button can't be clicked. In fact the entire X session is locked. I have to log into a tty and kill either Inkscape or the WM to be able to continue. Of course we don't crashes to happen, but I wonder if calling XUngrabPointer() in the crash handler would prevent them freezing my desktop? Dan

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