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Updated spanish po
by Lucas Vieites 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi, attaching a fresh po from today's cvs. -- Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...212...> Web: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/users/lucas/> Blog: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/blog/>

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icon duplicates
by bulia byak 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Some time ago I reported (and fixed) a duplication of strings in the unused code in src/ui. Now I discovered that the icons are also duplicated: in share/icons, alongside icons.svg, each icon is also in its own file. Bryce, can you please remove those duplicated icons because: - I'm in principle against tearing icons.svg into pieces, as I explained some time ago in a discussion here. This will slow down program loading (parsing lots of small files is much slower than parsing a single big file) and make editing less convenient. Another reason is that the separate SVGs will be significantly larger in the total filesize than the single file (and thus even slower to load) because in the single file, many icons with repeating elements use clones which save a lot of space and work faster. With separate files this is impossible. - People are already, and will be in the future, terribly confused as to which file is the real source for an icon. - The duplicate icons are already getting out of sync because icons.svg is updated from time to time. It would be nice to have this fixed before the release. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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A possible error in livarot\MyMath.h
by Alex S 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

I am new to InkScape, but from what I remember from math lessons the dot product and the cross product as defined in the file have been confused. Dot is defined to be x*x + y*y, but in this file the author defined cross to be x*x + y*y. And also cross should be x*y - y*x, but the author defined Dot to be x*y - y*x. Thanks, Alex.

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Requesting Inkboard testing
by David Yip 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hi all, Before I begin integrating Inkboard's code into Inkscape, I'd like to verify the presence of a few large bugs that I've found in the Inkboard code. As bugs can sometimes manifest themselves differently (or not at all!) on different platforms, I'd appreciate large-scale testing of this software. Quick rundown of the project: The Inkboard project's aim was to develop code that would add virtual whiteboarding capabilities to Inkscape, using the Jabber messaging protocol as its communication infrastructure. Its source code is available at <http://sourceforge.net/projects/inkboard>; documentation is available at <http://inkboard.sourceforge.net>. The latest CVS is identical to the v0.25 release, as far as I can tell by looking through diffs. Compilation: I believe the only additional library required is loudmouth <http://developer.imendio.com/wiki/Loudmouth>. I am using version 0.17.2-r2; I do not know if version 0.90 will work, but I'd love to hear if it does. Basic operation: Two instances of Inkboard must be started. Both clients connect to a Jabber server using the File > Connect to Server option. Then an invitation is extended from one client to the other using the File > Share with User option. (The invitation is automatically accepted by the other peer; this will be changed in the integration process.) Upon acceptance, the two Inkscape canvases will be synchronized. Bugs: Here's the five biggest bugs I've found. The "server peer" and "client peer" as written below are as follows: Let A select "Share with User", and let A also enter B's Jabber ID as the user to share to. Then B is the server and A is the client. (It seems backwards, but it's the only way I've managed to get it to work.) 1) Usage of the text tool crashes Inkboard while in a whiteboard session. 2) Anything except solid fills/strokes either crash the server side or are not transmitted properly except on initial whiteboard synchronization. 3) Deletion is extremely finicky -- missing child nodes in the document tree are a common problem, causing assertion failures in the document tree manipulator. 4) The server peer is the only peer whose updates are committed; updates made by the client peer are ignored. 5) Changes to some properties of objects (e.g. number of star points, number of spiral revolutions) are not transmitted immediately like all other changes. My platform: I'm running Gentoo Linux 2005.0, x86 version. Library versions are as follows: libxml2 v2.6.17 gtkmm v2.4.11 glibmm v2.4.7-r1 (-r1 is a Gentoo thing) glib v2.6.3 gtk+ v2.6.7 libsigc++ v2.0.11 boehm-gc v6.4 loudmouth v0.17.2-r2 (ditto on -r2) I am running jabberd v1.4 internally on a machine running Gentoo Linux 2005.0, amd64 edition. The only configuration change I have made on the Jabber server is disabling rate-limiting for faster updates. I am compiling Inkboard using gcc 3.3.5-20050130 in a distcc setup with the P4 and the AMD64 machine. More information can be found in the attached file. I'd appreciate any testing and feedback you guys (and girls!) can give me. The more information, the better :) Thanks, -- David

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Where's 0.42 at?
by Jon Phillips 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

Hey, where is the 0.42 release at? I haven't heard much about lately on the list and am curious. Seems like a cap just needs to be put on it to get it out to the masses...they are hungry... I haven't been keeping up so well with Inkscape development, but still seems like a refresher of what is happening is needed. Jon -- Jon Phillips USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Drop Shadows
by Ted Gould 29 Jun '05

29 Jun '05

aaron@...749... wrote: > Ted Gould wrote: >> The two inx files that are in the share/extensions aren't actually >> installed, they are just in CVS. So if you make a tarball, they won't >> be in it. I left them there because, well, CVS sucks at deleting >> files. Hopefully SF.net will upgrade to Subversion so that we can >> delete them and still get them back in a more reasonable fashion. > > Actually they are installed with the Win32 builds. But if someone would > like to tell me how to fix that, I would love to have a go at it. I'm not really sure how the Windows builds work... can someone on -devel help Aaron here? Thanks, Ted

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Summer of Code Participants Chosen
by Bryce Harrington 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

Hi all, Google has made the final selections for their Summer of Code and sent out the notifications. The following four applications were selected for Inkscape: Topic Applicant ------------------------------------------- Connectors - Michael Wybrow Inkboard - David Yip OCAL Interface - Greg Steffensen DXF Import/Export - Matthew Squires Of course, I was really hoping we could have a few more, because there were several other extremely good proposals for Connectors, Cairoification, libpdf from Scribus, a Genetics Algorithm based tracer, and much more. You can imagine how much discussion and debate that the reviewers have had this past week; it's been a very tough decision process. However, these four projects will provide Inkscape with some new strengths and new capabilities for our users. The prioritization process that the reviewers used in evaluating the applications weighed a number of factors to reach their decisions, including: The quality of the application, the background of the applicant and their familiarity with the subject matter, the importance of the feature to Inkscape, whether the effort would result in something of tangible benefit in the time available, and whether we felt the applicant had a strong likelihood of completing the effort successfully. Regarding mentors, we've not yet finalized on who will mentor which efforts, but there are several developers who have expressed interest in mentoring or whom I think would make good fits to the topics. Simarilius and I will be contacting these people over the next day or two and finalize the arrangements. In the meantime, Sim and I can field questions. Greg, Michael, David, and Matthew, I would also like to encourage you to post your proposals publically for the rest of the Inkscape community to see; they're quite good. :-) You're welcome to use the Inkscape wiki if you do not have a website of your own. In any case, please post your links on this page: http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Googles_Summer_Of_Code If you're interested, a few folks are setting up software for you to use for blogging about your work as well. Also, if you're not already, please join the inkscape-devel@ list; we use that list for darn near all our technical discussion. Thanks, and welcome aboard! Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Summer of Code Participants Chosen
by Aaron and Sarah Spike 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

Greg Steffensen wrote: > "The procedure entry point g_assert_warning could not be located in the > dynamic link library libglib-2.0-0.dll" > > which sounds like a gtk bug to me, though I can't be sure. Is this what > you were getting? No, at first I was getting a message about libglade. But then I did the ultimate evil (copying DLLs around). No I get an error that says: This application has failed to start because libxml2.dll was not found. Re-installing the application may fix this problem. Could you give me a link to the pygtk package you are using? Aaron Spike

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Cut-off status bar text; solutions?
by Colin Marquardt 28 Jun '05

28 Jun '05

Hi, depending on your font and language settings, the current status bar sometimes has a problem of not showing completely. I especially notice this when I work on the German translation since German is more verbose than English. During the course of some discussions on Jabber/IRC, we come up with some ideas. One thing is what I'd call a "split" status bar: the primary text is in a normal font, and the secondary text is in a smaller font and typeset in two lines, like here: http://buug.de/~colin/inkscape_statusbar.png This is just a proof-of-concept (a hbox with two labels in it), and I guess some GTK hackery would be needed to make sure it doesn't expand to, say, 5 lines of text. One would also need to check that R-T-L script still works correctly etc. I can imagine that one thing is distracting: the "border" between the main text and the smaller additional text will move with every new string. cornelius[cz] made a mockup for another idea: a second status bar for the secondary text: http://cornelius.rvge.info/my_files/inkscape_status_mockup.png These two approaches places a rather big burden on the translators, of course, and has quite some impact on the strings in the code, so it is likely not be in 0.42. (Well, the "second status bar" approach would not necessarily need the text broken into primary and secondary text.) A third, "orthogonal" idea was to just have a tooltip for the status bar with the complete text. This would work for the current status bar as well as for any of the ideas presented above. Oh, and cornelius even has a fourth idea, see here: http://cornelius.rvge.info/my_files/inkscape_status_mockup2.png Comments welcome. Cheers, Colin -- Pluto Neptune Uranus Saturn Jupiter Mars Earth Venus Mercury Sun . o o o O . . . . /\ ^ \/ -- You are here

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Font Size
by Ted Gould 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

After a little investigation yesterday, I think that the style test is failing when trying to set "font-size" to "0". I think that after it goes through all the style code it comes out as "0px". Is this correct? Is this a problem with the test? --Ted

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Re: [Inkscape-tracker] [ inkscape-Bugs-1116480 ] eat memory with patterns
by MenTaLguY 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 11:48 +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > (Also the symptoms -- amount of leakage being related to > > screen area -- are consistent with leaking bitmap memory, > > which we never allocate with the collector.) > > As said before, 20% is here: The question is, why isn't that 20% being collected? The most obvious thing would be that, since the XML nodes are also refcounted (via Inkscape::GC::Anchored), that there is either: 1) improper refcounting by SPObjects which reference the XML nodes 2) SPObjects being leaked while they still reference XML nodes Either one would result in pinning the XML nodes so they could not be collected by the collector. There are also other, more esoteric possibilities (but those wouldn't generally be so consistent). If it were #1, you could expect to see most (rather than a smaller percentage) of the leaked memory coming from the GC heap. Since we are seeing a lot of leaked memory from conventional malloc(), that tends to suggest that garbage-collected memory is being pinned by references from the leaked conventional objects -- i.e. scenario #2. -mental

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0.42 and Mac OS X DMG
by Jon Phillips 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

Hello, I'm curious as to the state of the MAC OS X DMG of Inkscape? I would like to make the push to get a working Mac DMG of Inkscape out as part of 0.42. Many people I know in academia want to use Inkscape in the classroom. I also can't bear to watch my gf use Illustrator in all its clunkiness on her new mac -- honestly, it is bloated and is useless without the tracing feature. I'm always shuttling fixed images back to her so she can use in her work. Anyhow, I see the wiki page on Compiling OS X is quite full of a lot of comments, but no clear answer to the OS X package. http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CompilingMacOsX Basically, I would like for our next release to come out with inkscape-0.42-mac-ppc.dmg at sf.net. Therefore, people will be able to download and be happy in mac land. Obviously, this will require X11 (unless someone wants to port it to aqua...hahahahah...just kidding). Please update me! Jon -- Jon Phillips USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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Compiling with extension support
by Lucas Vieites 27 Jun '05

27 Jun '05

Hi, I'm testing out the .42 version for translation consistency but I can't get it to compile the extensions. I have read Aaron's doc on dependency: http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/depends.php I have the packages mentioned there but still the ./configure script says at the end: Use Xft font database: yes Use gnome-print: no Use gnome-vfs no Use openoffice files: yes Use MMX optimizations: yes Use relocation support: no Use Python extensions: skipped Use Perl extensions: skipped I still don't have the "Effects" menu Am I missing some step here? Thanks, -- Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...212...> Web: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/users/lucas/> Blog: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/blog/>

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Tests failing
by Ted Gould 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

I almost have distcheck passing... but now this test is failing, I'll start looking into it, but if someone knows what's wrong, please do say. --Ted Testing style... sp_style_new, sp_style_write_string...Assertion `streq(str0_all, str0_all_exp)' failed sp_style_merge_from_style_string(whitespace, ifset...OK sp_style_merge_from_style_string(whitespace, always...Assertion `streq(str0_all, str0_all_exp)' failed sp_style_merge_from_style_string("fill:", ifset)...OK sp_style_merge_from_style_string("font-family:", always)...Assertion `streq(str0_all, str0_all_exp)' failed sp_style_merge_from_style_string("fill: ", ifset)...OK sp_style_merge_from_style_string("font-family: ", always)...Assertion `streq(str0_all, str0_all_exp)' failed sp_style_merge_from_style_string(":none", ifset)...OK sp_style_merge_from_style_string...Assertion `streq(str0_all, str0_all_exp)' failed style: FAILED (4/9 tests passed) FAIL: style-test

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gtk-wimp being hacked on
by Colin Marquardt 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Hi, FWIW, dom is hacking on gtk-wimp and also has some suggestions for GTK/Gnome application writers: http://www.advogato.org/person/cinamod/diary.html?start=55 Cheers, Colin -- [00:37:14]<QuoteMstr> I'm trying GNU Emacs 21.1 now. [00:43:27]<QuoteMstr> AARAGH [00:43:35]<QuoteMstr> I have broken my vow to give up IRC! [00:43:35]<-- QuoteMstr has quit

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Google SoC and mentors
by David Yip 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

Hello all, First, I apologize if this message is misdirected. I've seen Summer of Code-related topics in this list before; however, I also know that John Cliff is the point of contact for SoC proposal discussion, but I'm not sure if he is also involved in mentor assignment. With that said, I'm interested in how mentor assignment will occur -- will there be a separate list, one-to-one correspondence, or some other method? My project proposal involved the integration of Inkboard's code with Inkscape's main trunk, along with a few extensions to the idea. I would like to clarify required and optional deliverables and agree upon scheduling, etc. Thank you, David Yip

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about dialog
by MenTaLguY 26 Jun '05

26 Jun '05

One of the complaints I've been seeing about the about dialog contest is that our list of credits is so long, and it's getting hard to design around. It's only going to get longer with future releases. Maybe we could move the credits outside the splash image itself. What about e.g. a vertically scrolling sidebar? Any other ideas? Thoughts? -mental

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Re: Google Summer of Code proposals
by Greg Steffensen 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Thanks to all the reviewers; I'm still waiting to hear, but I'll contribute work on OCAL integration even if mine is not accepted, and hopefully other extension work too. I noticed that the PSF will encourage its accepted applicants to keep a blog about their projects; Inkscape might want to do that too. Greg

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Creating custom objects
by SJ H 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

I've written a plugin for Skencil that allows LaTeX text objects to be included and rendered, and am assessing the viability for doing something similar in Inkscape. I've seen the extensions description from last year, but none of the extension objects there really seem to meet the need. What I'd be looking for is creating a new type of object that retains its identity as an object so that the text can be edited again. So I'm interested in whether there are examples of something conceptually similar having been done already. Basically, the mechanism I'm looking for would allow an extension/plugin to: - create a new object that can be later modified as an object (including after being saved and opened again) - accept user input for parameters that can later be changed - run an external program when an update is made - import an external file to replace the current object curves (I' Once those things can be done, having a latex object is fairly trivial. I'd appreciate if someone could point to where to look for examples of extensions that do these things under inkscape.

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[Fwd: Re: Contact + Question]
by Jon Phillips 25 Jun '05

25 Jun '05

Heya, for all you writers out there, a new magazine that would be good to submit howtos and articles to (and get paid for!) Jon -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Tux Editor <ed@...851...> > To: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> > Subject: Re: Contact + Question > Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:05:18 -0500 > > Hi Jon, > > The basic approach is to "pitch" an idea to me. If it's a good one, > then I'll assign it to you (see the example assignment letter below) > with a due date. Here are things to keep in mind when writing articles > for Tux: > > 1. We prefer "How To" articles over any other type of article > 2. The audience is the average desktop user - try to stick with > point-and-click operations > 3. AVOID passive voice like the plague. For example, write this way: > > "You can configure the colors by opening the "Colors" dialog box. Click > Tools->Configure...etc." > > DO NOT write this way: > > "Configuring colors can be done with the "Colors" dialog box. Opening > the dialog box is done by clicking "Tools-...etc." > > Otherwise, most of an editor's time is spent converting the passive > voice sentences into active voice. Too much of that, and editors tend > to avoid those authors for future articles! > > I look forward to your ideas! > > -Nicholas > > Your article "_________" has been accepted for possible > publication in TUX magazine. We expect your article will cover the > following: Your opinions about something, and that it be kept > around 1,000 or more words. > > Work with the editor-in-chief (ed@...851...) on your article > until the article is in its final form. > > The deadline for the final version of your article is ______. The final > version of your article must be sent to editor@...852... Keep in > mind that we do not accept multiple drafts of articles, and therefore, > we expect a complete and final version on or before the deadline. > > If your article is published, we pay $300 for "how-to" articles and > $100 for reviews. If your article falls into another category, we > will negotiate a payment. > > All writing is done on speculation. If TUX magazine decides to use > the work, we will purchase first rights and compilation rights to > the article. However, we are under no obligation to publish > the work. If the article is selected for publication, your payment will be > "_______". > > Your article will be copyedited according to TUX style, and > English grammar and spelling, though we ask that you carefully review > the materials you submitted for accuracy and completeness. We expect > that you submit your article in text-only format and that any > figures, tables, listings and sidebars be sent as separate files; provide > titles or captions for all figures, tables, listings and sidebars, and > indicate in the text where such items should be placed. > > Please send a photo of yourself, a brief bio, and your mailing address > along with your article. > > Once your article is submitted, it will be in the publication queue and > therefore cannot be submitted elsewhere unless 1) TUX magazine formally > rejects the article, or 2) the author notifies TUX magazine of his/her > intent and TUX magazine agrees to release the article at that time. > > If you have any questions, please feel free to send email to > editor@...851..., and please cc ed@...852... > > > > > > Jon Phillips wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I have the following questions: > > > > > >1. How to get into the writing pool? > > > >2. What the standard writing fare is for TUX? > > > >3. How to submit an article? > > > >4. Where to send press releases for new software releases? > > > >5. Who to submit a request for a review to? > > > > > >Thanks and your magazine concept is great! > > > >Jon > > > > > > > > > > -- Jon Phillips USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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Is there anything like inkex.rb for inkscape?
by Samir Patel 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

There are external library to use perl or python with inkscape? Is there anything available to use ruby? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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Re: Google Summer of Code proposals
by Greg Steffensen 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Thanks to all the reviewers; I'm still waiting to hear, but I'll contribute work on OCAL integration even if mine is not accepted, and hopefully other extension work too. I noticed that the PSF will encourage its accepted applicants to keep a blog about their projects; Inkscape might want to do that too. Greg

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win32 libglib.dll version
by unknown＠example.com 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

I'm wondering which version of libglib.dll will ship with the win32 builds of 0.42. Currently the CVS builds come with version 2.4.5.0 but it can cause a nasty little crash in the Save Dialog. I replaced it with 2.6.4.0 and it works fine on my machines. Save just isn't a place you want a crash bug. :) Aaron Spike

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Someone else discovers the SVG dpi issues...
by unknown＠example.com 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

----- Forwarded message from Carl Worth <cworth@...573...> ----- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 10:11:40 -0700 From: Carl Worth <cworth@...573...> Reply-To: Carl Worth <cworth@...573...> Subject: Re: [cairo] svg_cairo_get_size problem To: Jason Dorje Short <jdorje@...58...> On Fri, 24 Jun 2005 01:55:49 -0400, Jason Dorje Short wrote: > The attached SVGs (chosen for their smallness) show a working and a > nonworking SVG file. If you use svg2png or xsvg on the cornwall flag it > will be incorrect, but on the galicia flag it works correctly (or at > least I think so; if not I have other examples that do work > correctly). The first thing worth noting is that in galicia.svg (which works) the overall size is provided in unit-less values: width="999.000000" height="666.000000" which, according to the SVG specification means that these values determine the size in "pixels" (i.e., a px unit as defined by CSS2). Meanwhile, in cornwall.svg (which fails), the overall size is specified with real-world units (in this case, millimeters): width="234mm" height="140mm" So, converting those real-world units to pixels requires information about the real-world dimension of a pixel. In libsvg there's definitely a bug that there's no way to set that value, (instead it always assumes 100 pixels per inch). But that's not what's causing the strange behavior you're seeing. In cornwall.svg, after specifying the size as 234x140mm the first thing drawn is the "background" rectangle which has a size specified as: width="829.133850" height="496.062988" These values don't have real-world units, so according to the SVG specification[*] they should be interpreted as pixels. And ~ 829x496 pixels is only equivalent to 234x140mm if the pixels are sized such that there are 90 pixels per inch, (which must be the assumed pixels-per-inch value of the tool used to create this file). Therefore, the overall size of the SVG file changes depending on the pixels-per-inch value, but the actual drawing contents do not. And this is exactly the behavior you're seeing with libsvg-cairo. My recommendation for you is to just alter the top-level width and height attributes to use the same units as the rest of the drawing. That is, use: width="829" height="496" This eliminates the 90 pixels per inch assumption from the file, and also happens to avoid the need for a set_dpi function in libsvg. It would still be nice to have something like svg_set_dpi but it wouldn't be an adequate solution for this file. It would allow correct rendering at 90 DPI but not at any other value. Does that make sense? Is there anything else I'm missing here? -Carl [*] http://www.w3.org/TR/2003/REC-SVG11-20030114/coords.html ----- End forwarded message -----

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Google Summer of Code proposals
by Bryce Harrington 24 Jun '05

24 Jun '05

Hi all, Today was the final day for the mentors to give input for the Google Summer of Code projects. Google is funding 400 projects this summer, including four projects for Inkscape. The decision for how many slots to give each project was based on the proportion of submissions sent in for each project. Approximately 50 people submitted proposals for Inkscape. There were over 10,000 proposals submitted in total, for 40 projects. Google will be making the final decision of which projects will be selected, based on our prioritizations. The prioritization was extremely difficult (I wish we could have had 8 or 10 projects), but thanks to the work of the reviewers I think Inkscape will gain four very significant new features over the summer. Bryce

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