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Spanish translation & string correction
by Lucas Vieites 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi, I'm attaching the updated spanish po file. I found the following string and I think there might be an error there: gradient-drag.cpp: 654: "%s for: %s%s; drag with Ctrl to snap angle, with Ctrl +Alt to preserve angle, with Ctrl+Alt to scale around center" It says Ctrl+Alt twice for different actions Cheers, -- Lucas Vieites Fariña Dept. Desarrollo <lucas@...212...> Asix Informática <http://www.asixinformatica.com/> Blog <http://www.asixinformatica.com/blog> Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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Change layer name "(root)" to "(Background)"?
by Colin Marquardt 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi, the layer name "(root)" is not translatable until now - I filed the following patch for it: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1219305&group_id=9… As it says there, should we maybe change the "(root)" to "(Background)"? Gimp 2.2 uses this word, so unless calling this the "root" is vector graphics parlance, I think we should switch. This also comes from my inability to find a nice translation for "root" that doesn't look strange in that context. :) Cheers, Colin -- < This line left intentionally blank to confuse you. >

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Fwd: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Change layer name "(root)" to "(Background)"?
by Joshua Blocher 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Joshua Blocher <verbalshadow@...400...> Date: Jun 13, 2005 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Change layer name "(root)" to "(Background)"? To: "mental@...3..." <mental@...3...> So call it the Jar... wait that's taken how about.... Nexus the center of the whole SVG regardless of postion in the layers. Makes sense to me. Josh Blocher verbalshadow On 6/13/05, mental@...3... <mental@...3...> wrote: > > Quoting Colin Marquardt <colin@...384... >: > > > Hmm... would "Background (root)" be too long for the layer name? > > It's not really a layer, it's the container for the top-level > layers... > > -mental > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net <http://SF.Net> email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. How > far can you shotput > a projector? How fast can you ride your desk chair down the office luge > track? > If you want to score the big prize, get to know the little guy. > Play to win an NEC 61" plasma display: http://www.necitguy.com/?r > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Patch for -same strings, different contexts-
by unknown＠example.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi, Maybe found a solution for the 'same string, different context' issue. It is based on http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-I18N.html , and has a very small impact on the code. It works (compile and run) on my computer (compiled under Unbuntu, gcc3.3, following the indications of the wiki), and behaves OK in French and in English. The patch is attached there : http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1203796&group_id=9… It only requires developpers to use the Q_("context|translatable_string) when translatable_string is something that can have different meanings in different context, or if the string is very short. If this solution is ok for you, I can : - add some comments for translators on the already modified strings (only X,Y,W,L in src/select-toolbar.cpp and H,S,V in /src/dialogs/clonetiler.cpp - implement this solutions in some other cases (of short/ambiguous strings) Regards, Matiphas

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Some elegant Element Renaming in Inkscape (0.41)?
by unknown＠example.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Jay Vaughan wrote: >> One last thing to try, if you are willing. >> Copy the entire contents of the share/extensions directory into >> ~/.inkscape/extensions . > > okay, that worked, and is a better solution than trying to do a compile > anyway .. ;) > > will hack at this a bit more tomorrow. I will have to ask Mike about this. Seems that the extensions directories don't work with binreloc. Aaron Spike

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Can't Copy with Win32 Build
by Aaron Spike 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

So I have everything building just fine on my windows box at home, but at work I get the following error. C:\inkscape>make -f Makefile.mingw copy config.h.mingw config.h process_begin: CreateProcess((null), copy config.h.mingw config.h, ...) failed. make (e=2): The system cannot find the file specified. make: *** [config.h] Error 2 This is with a fresh checkout. And same steps as at home. I can fix it by copying these files by hand. Does anyone have a clue why it happens? Aaron Spike

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Some elegant Element Renaming in Inkscape (0.41)?
by unknown＠example.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Jay Vaughan wrote: >> >> Yes, inkex.py and a number of examples are in the share/extensions >> directory in CVS. > > okay, downloading it now .. i'm assuming i can just put these in > /usr/share/inkscape/extensions when i'm ready to hack around? Well yes, but you will want to be using a recent CVS build. Here are some pages to get you going: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/inkscape/inkscape/doc/extension_syste… http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ExtensionArchitectureProposals http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ScriptingHOWTO http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/ Also check the list archives. Aaron Spike

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Some elegant Element Renaming in Inkscape (0.41)?
by Jay Vaughan 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

hi all, i am a very happy user of inkscape for all my SVG needs, and have been using it for the last few releases very happily. thank you for all your hard work, you make wonderful things possible! one thing that i haven't been able to work out how to do, is properly name my objects. i use SVG as a design language, and elements in my SVG document need to be named certain things .. this "rect123" business doesn't really cut it. usually, i just hand-rename things, but lately i've found that there are some objects for which this method just doesn't work. how difficult would it be to add a feature in inkscape where you can select multiple elements, and then type in a 'name template', and have that applied to all objects? for example, i've got "circ1823", "rect123" and "object23" all selected; i want to group these together and give them a common name scheme that looks like this "object-01", "object-02", "object-03" .. i remember in some editing apps (was it Canvas or illustrator, i forget) you could multi-select a group of objects, hit 'Rename', and enter C-like expressions for renaming, like "myobject-%d" where %d would be replaced by the # of the object in the list of the selection. another thing that would be handy is 're-order group', where a group is selected, and you can re-order the name of the elements ("id=" tag) automatically.. is that feasible? should i look at making an extension to do this renaming automatically, would that be the easiest way, or maybe there's a secret hidden feature of inkscape already that allows you to do renaming such as this? -- ; Jay Vaughan

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moving autopackage into cvs
by unknown＠example.com 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Now that I have finally built an autopackage, I think it would be best to move the autopackage configuration into cvs and work on it from there. By default autopackage expects to find /cvsroot/inkscape/autopackage. But it should also work with /cvsroot/inkscape/packaging/autopackage if makeinstaller is run with the path as an additional parameter. Are there any opinions as to whether or not I should add this and where it should go? Mike walked me through some changes to configure.ac, in order to get the autopackage to build. http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/autopackage.diff As I understand some of those changes are just temporary tweaks. Could someone please comment on the significance of these changes? Is there a way to merge this with CVS without breaking anything? Aaron Spike

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Some elegant Element Renaming in Inkscape (0.41)?
by bulia byak 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

On 6/8/05, Jay Vaughan <jayv@...566...> wrote: > how difficult would it be to add a feature in inkscape where you can > select multiple elements, and then type in a 'name template', and > have that applied to all objects? Just renaming is trivial, what is more difficult is updating all references that reference this element. But this is all doable in an extension, I think. > another thing that would be handy is 're-order group', where a group > is selected, and you can re-order the name of the elements ("id=" > tag) automatically.. I'm not sure how reordering is related to names. Can you give an example? -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Spanish po update
by Lucas Vieites 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi, I attaching the updated spanish po file. -- Lucas Vieites Fariña <lucas@...212...> Web: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/users/lucas/> Blog: <http://www.asixinformatica.com/blog/>

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verbs.h and dialogs
by Bryce Harrington 13 Jun '05

13 Jun '05

Hi Bulia, I notice that you're working on adding a capability to set the dialog titles based on their verbs, however I notice that this is requiring adding a verbs.h include to each of the dialog .cpp's. I'm concerned that by doing this, it's going to cause the dialog code to be recompiled extremely frequently, since verbs.h changes relatively frequently (77 revisions recorded). Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] svg sounds
by Jose Hevia 12 Jun '05

12 Jun '05

> Hi Jose, > > Interesting proposal! Can you also include in your proposal a > description of what this will be used for? > > Bryce Well, I don't know exactly,but something like: -Create a open sound standard, for the web, not dependent of anyone,(inkscape is far better graphic editing than audacity) easily editable.This could be useful for creating multimedia in inkscape.(animations?) -Explore independent axis representation. It's far easier to adapt beziers to single axis strokes than multiple ones at once. This could be useful to add tablet support for inkscape,paths for animation... -Explore inkscape limits,I expect inkscape to hang with some audio seconds.(44000samples/sec are a lot) -Create your own artificial sounds. -You own your sound data.You could use scripts to play with them. Extract characteristics (search) very easy.(length,area,shape...) -Use graphic techniques(scripts) with sound.Sound ones with graphics. -Be able to mix various sounds if you put one above the other. -Explore my own limits. Jose Hevia

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svg sounds
by Jose Hevia 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Well, here are my two cents google summer of code proposal Make a program that reads a .wav file and converts it to a svg drawing. It will make a graph with: -A center line, representing 0 wave pressure. -An upper and lower limit line. -A graph of pressure axis. Nothing more than consecutive line joints. Well this is easy. It will make a svg sound file (resolution independent). Then make a program that reads this drawing and take sound samples at a given sample rate.(svg->wav). (Harder). Problems: -inkscape(v.0.41) rulers (0,0) start at bottom-left. It seems it understand internally (0,0) as upper-left. Rulers say >0 is up and right, internally down and right. -strange px units. I would like to speak as cm, inches... -Use a library to understand wav or read directly. -Memory structures management.Done. -Make a svg-sound-parser.Search and read a svg-sound element. -Generate wav.(easy). Well, I'm making it anyway, but if someone could pay me for it(google), it will be much faster :-) Jose Hevia

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Updated keys.fr.xml (svg/html)
by unknown＠example.com 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Hi, Peter Moulder had updated keys.xml and keys.fr.xml (Unicode mode) Here is a reviewed/updated version of keys.fr.xml + svg/html generated from it (xsltproc) Regards, Matiphas

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Help on compiling.
by Muthiah Annamalai 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Hello there! Ive got Inkscape-0.41 tarball,[not from CVS]. Then Ive filledin the dependencies gc, gtkmm, libsigc++, etc. I configured with all extensions perl,python, disabled binary relocation, and used gnome-print. Now the whole code compiles well, but I get a link error in the final stage[duh!] of making ./inkscape program itself. There was some errors in ./extensions/internal/ is not able to find references to 'GnomePrint::comment()'. Well Im trying ./configure without gome-print, and other combinations. Anyway, do let me know if there are any known issues. Thanks Muthu. __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

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translatable template name
by bulia byak 11 Jun '05

11 Jun '05

Attention translators: I just made the name of the default template, default.svg, translatable. This means it will show up in your po files. If you are OK with the current default template, you don't need to do anything. If however you want to make a different default template for your language - for example, translate the name of the default layer or change page size - just "translate" default.svg into, for example, default.de.svg, create the default.de.svg file with your changes and commit it into share/templates. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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[cjohnson@...1...: [Fwd: [rc_spm] Adobe replacement???]]
by Bryce Harrington 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Microsoft's apparently trying to create a graphics program... ----- Forwarded message from Carl Johnson <cjohnson@...1...> ----- Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:44:05 -0700 From: Carl Johnson <cjohnson@...1...> To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...> Reply-To: cjohnson@...1... Subject: [Fwd: [rc_spm] Adobe replacement???] http://news.com.com/Microsoft+offers+beta+of+Adobe+rival/2100-1012-5740444.… John ----- End forwarded message -----

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Compiling on Win32
by unknown＠example.com 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

aaron@...749... wrote: > Josh gave me a suggestion on jabber. '"perl mkfiles.pl" and then "perl > mkdep.pl"' If that dosen't work I'll ask again. Even after that I get the perl error. extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:16:20: EXTERN.h: No such file or directory extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:17:18: perl.h: No such file or directory extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:18:18: XSUB.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [extension/script/InkscapePerl.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/inkscape/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 What takes the place of autogen.sh and configure on windows? Aaron Spike

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Compiling on Win32
by unknown＠example.com 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

aaron@...749... wrote: > Josh gave me a suggestion on jabber. '"perl mkfiles.pl" and then "perl > mkdep.pl"' If that dosen't work I'll ask again. Did that and it still complained about three files missing: helper/sp-marshal.h helper/sp-marshal.cpp inkscape_version.h So I copied the corresponding *.mingw versions into place. Perhaps the instructions for creating a tarball need on this page <http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CreatingDists> need to preceed compiling on windows? Aaron Spike

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Gentoo Inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

A ticket's was opened recently to try to get a more recent version Inkscape marked stable in Gentoo, and over the past couple of days some progresshas been made: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=inkscape amd64, ppc64, and sparc are at 0.40 or 0.41. No word yet on x86; it's still at 0.37... Bryce

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Compiling on Win32
by unknown＠example.com 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Bob, Last night I tried to compile Inkscape following the directions you have provided here: http://troi.hous.es3.titan.com/inkscape/ It seemed that I needed to change the location of the GTK folder in mingwenv.bat as well as Makefile.mingw.common. If I'm not doing something wrong you may want to add that to the directions. And when I compile I get the following build error: extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:16:20: EXTERN.h: No such file or directory extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:17:18: perl.h: No such file or directory extension/script/InkscapePerl.cpp:18:18: XSUB.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [extension/script/InkscapePerl.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `C:/inkscape/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 Mental suggested that I disable the embedded interpreters. But I never ran configure to enable them in the first place. And I don't know how to turn them off. Any suggestions? Thanks, Aaron Spike

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side-by-side install
by Aaron and Sarah Spike 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Before I learned how to compile CVS, my major concern was "How can I keep the stable version and CVS installed at the same time on linux." This was, of course, no trouble because the stable version was installed to /usr/bin/ and the CVS version was installed to /usr/local/bin/. The reason I had worried was the autopackage nightly builds. When I installed an autopackage it installed in the place of the stable version. Having both versions has been a good experience. It is a safety net. If a old feature breaks in CVS it is likely I can still use that feature in the stable version. Best of all I can do this without having to revert to an earlier version by uninstalling and reinstalling. As long as I was pestering Mike Hearn with my naive questions about building the autopackage, I decided to ask him if there was a way the packaging system could handle the issue and give users the ability to keep side-by-side installs. Mike suggested that the best solution might be to build a different executable for CVS i.e. inkscape-cvs instead of inkscape. This sounds reasonable to me. For instance, the sylpheed mail client has a sister project that builds the experimental sylpheed-claws version. The usability of CVS is definately one of Inkscape's strengths. I think the smaller the barrier between new users and CVS the better. Comments? Aaron Spike

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Memory usage during linking
by Bryce Harrington 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

I'm not sure if this was just the machine I was testing on, but the memory usage during linking appears to be fairly intensive. The system was low on swap space, and compilation actually triggered the OOM killer. I had the machine pretty loaded with other stuff so it wasn't a total surprise, but I'm curious if others are having this problem? Is it a new problem? Also, are there things we could be doing to reduce the memory load during the final link? Bryce

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Trace and Script dialogs
by Bryce Harrington 10 Jun '05

10 Jun '05

Bob, I have a few questions on a couple dialogs... I notice that "verbs.h" is included in the headers. I see this is for the 'verb_num' argument that's been added to the Dialog constructor. I looked in Dialog::Dialog() but it doesn't appear to get used in that function for anything. It would be nice if we didn't include verbs.h in the dialog headers, because verbs.h changes often and would force the dialogs to be recompiled excessively. What is the verb_num argument for? Regarding naming, Jizzbug and I felt that the new dialogs should not have 'dialog' in their title, as it's redundant since they're in the Inkscape::UI::Dialog namespace already. Would it be possible to rename TraceDialog to Trace, and ScriptDialog to Script? In TraceDialog, I notice you have a TraceDialogImpl class; it turns out that due to DialogManager, the dialogs are encapsulated well enough that we really don't need to use the Impl trick. Anyway, nice to see all the new dialogs in gtkmm. :-) Bryce

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