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still no static binaries...
by bulia byak 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

All, We were without power for 4 days due to a snowstorm, and what's worse, my Linux partitions broke down when the power went out, so now I have to reinstall the system from scratch. There was no loss of my personal data (thanks to backups), but I lost all of my development environment and now I have to compile again all the latest glib, gtk, gtkmm, sigc++, boehm... So, as you can guess I was really disappointed to still not find a static package on SF. Right now I would be in an ideal situation to test it, being on a system with very limited libraries installed. I start to grow tired from repeating this, but WE NEED PACKAGES, and most importantly we need a static build. That's a prerequisite for the release. The longer we don't have it, the longer the release will be delayed. By not providing binaries now we not only get a poorly tested release, but the binaries _after_ the release will likely be slow to appear, even slower than for 0.39. That's because packagers need time and effort to set up the environment with all the new libraries. So, by doing some binaries now, we'll ensure prompt binary builds when 0.40 is out, which is important from the marketing point of view.

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Rename Layer dialog
by Bryce Harrington 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

I've just committed a skeleton chunk of code that hooks up a Gtkmm-based dialog for layers. This is in dialogs/layer-properties.*. I won't have time to work on this for a couple days so if someone else would like a simple but important coding task, it'd be quite valued to fill it in. The dialog can be popped up via the Layers->Rename Layer item in the menu. As you'll see, the dialog's currently empty. The job is to hook up an entry box, make it display the name of the currently selected layer, and add a couple buttons to Apply/Close. In the handler for the apply() routine, make it take the text out of the entry box and set the layer name appropriately. Some resources: * debugdialog.* is a similar Gtkmm dialog you can look at for syntax and such. * The item-properties.cpp file includes code for renaming objects. Look at the sp_item_widget_label_changed(), for instance. You can probably adapt the renaming logic from this. * The gtkmm.org website has examples and reference info that will be of use if you're new to Gtkmm. I'll be happy to answer questions, and will be able to put in time on this this weekend if there's still work left to do. I think this is the last development task (aside from bug fixing) required before we can enter a hard freeze, so the sooner this can be done, the sooner we can get the release out. Bryce

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] layer testing
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

What I find confusing is being able to select with Ctrl+Click or Rubberband... In fact, I thought the lock (or sensitive) state of a layer would be applied ( not necessarely propagated) to all the objects it contains. I'm not a graphics professional, I only try to draw basic maps as a hobby. I can easily understand that my needs don't match those of the majority. Layers are really useful for me, but the fact the the object they contain can be selected even when locked confuses me a lot. Let me explain : let's say I've got a reference layer with reference lines, and some bitmaps, and additional layers with text, buildings, water, streets... When working on a specific layer, i want to see the others but not modify anything in them. At the moment it's not ok (at least for me), as rubberband selection (my favourite one btw) can select ( and then modify) them. A workaround is to lock objects individually, but then, unlocking them one by one from the xml editor is a pain... regards, matiphas

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Tutorials
by Joshua A. Andler 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

I have converted all of the tutorials to being layered documents. I am doing it so that there are 3 layers. Layer 1: the headers & any other background/stationary items (locked) Layer 2: text Layer 3: "images" It makes sense to me, so if there are any other ideas for other things to take into consideration throw them my way. Also, in opening up each of the tutorials I noticed differences in the way that they're set up as well as formatting inconsistencies (small time stuff, but I'm anal like that). So, I'm going to go through to make things more consistent throughout all the tutorials. What is the mindset on making keystrokes & menu items given throughout the tutorials bold? I think it helps to make the directly relevant stuff stand out, and wouldn't mind updating them all for it. However, if you guys are against it I will not. Last but not least I am also going to update all of the docs to use that flowText as well. I will upload the layered versions in the morning probably, and the flowing versions by this weekend. -Josh

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inkview bug
by Jon Phillips 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Hi, I was starting to use Inkview from CVS and I got an error on trying to open a standard SVG file. $ inkview my_house_01.svg ** ERROR **: Attempt to use GC allocator before call to Inkscape::GC::init() aborting... Aborted I think the fix must be easy. I'm too busy right now prepping this presentation to fix, but am bummed it is broken. Jon

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[OT] on-demand
by Alexandre Prokoudine 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Hi, Not sure, if you're interested... http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/2135209 <<Lulu.com is the brainchild of Red Hat founder Bob Young. With Lulu, Young offers would-be publishers, whether book authors, musicians, photographers, or artists, the opportunity to expose and sell their work for little or no upfront investment. But Lulu.com is more than just an on-demand publishing house. True to the open spirit, it is also a community -- a haven where artistic people can gather to share experiences and seek advice from one another. They can network, looking for opportunities to collaborate and muster up creative synergy. It is open and it is free. And now, it is for software developers too. Lulu this month announced that software developers can now publish their works at Lulu.com and sell hard copies of instruction manuals and boxed sets of programs. This could be a boon to open source software developers and customers alike, since fans cannot usually walk into their local software store and pick up a copy of the latest open source applications.>> Alexandre

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test ignore
by vellum 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

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"Lock" vs "Sensitive"/"Insensitive"
by Peter Moulder 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

Recently, the "Sensitive" item in the Object Properties dialog box was changed to "Lock". Presumably this is for consistency with the corresponding layer operation. The word `Lock' doesn't communicate very well that one can't even select the objects with the mouse (e.g. to view properties), whereas it wrongly communicates that the objects can't be changed. (Insensitive objects can freely be changed once they're selected somehow, e.g. because they're still selected from when the user changed their item properties, or using Select All, or the Find dialog box, or selecting from the XML editor. I think it would be wrong for the Lock checkbox to deselect things, as that would give different behaviour for clicking Hide then Lock from Lock then Hide, for example, or whatever other changes to the objects one wants to make at the same time.) We have another padlock icon in the toolbars, but it doesn't mean "The selected object/s are insensitive", it means that the Width and Height spin buttons change in unison to maintain constant aspect ratio. I intend to change the word Lock back to either Sensitive or Insensitive (or Canvas-selectable?) and change the tooltip for the layer padlock icon to mention the word sensitive. Maybe "Make the selected objects insensitive, i.e. prevent the selected objects from being selectable with clicks or drags in the canvas." pjrm.

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Glue : SVG Support ? Inkscape Sypport ?
by NAGY Endre 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

>>On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 02:00:31PM +1100, Peter Moulder wrote: >> See the inkscape:connection-start="#ID" and >> inkscape:connection-end="#ID" attributes in the appended example file, >> and note the two xmlns lines in the <svg> element's attributes. > >Aack! I didn't see this go in! So cool! Between text-follows-path and >this, Inkscape has everything I ever wanted now! Wooo! :) I think its FAB as well My one problem is that my inkscape:connection-start's and inkscape:connection-end's are small SVG circles. If I try and select these shapes to drag, I invariably end up selecting the path rather than the circle. The paths themselves do not exhibit the connection behaviour. Is there an inkscape namespace element that can specify that a path (or geometry) is not selectable. Alternatively can I define a "selection priority" or a "selection boundary", if you see what I mean Regards Endre IMPORTANT NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachment to it are intended only to be read or used by the named addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistaken transmission to you. The RTA is not responsible for any unauthorised alterations to this e-mail or attachment to it. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of the RTA. If you receive this e-mail in error, please immediately delete it from your system and notify the sender. You must not disclose, copy or use any part of this e-mail if you are not the intended recipient.

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slower than sodipodi
by Johan Forsberg 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

Hello people, I've recently noticed a pretty big difference in speed between sodipodi (0.34) and inkscape (0.40 pre, but also earlier versions)... simply rendering the same svg is at least twice as fast in sodipodi as in inkscape (I haven't made any benchmarks, but the difference is not only noticeable but really large). Actually I've found myself using sodipodi instead of inkscape in some very complex cases even though I find inkscape's interface much nicer and feature filled, because it was simply too slow. I realise by now inkscape is probably a much more complex program than sodipodi but I can't really see why the actual rendering should be slower. Is there a technical explanation for this or is something strange with my system? /Johan

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mingw's gcc3.4.2 now current
by Bob Jamison 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

If you check this site: http://www.mingw.org/download.shtml ...you can see that the gcc3.4.x source/binaries, which have been "Candidate" for a very long time, have been moved to "Current." So I guess the switch to 3.4.x on Win32, which was highly recommended earlier, is now mandatory. I suppose that Win32 will stay with the 3.4.x series for a nice long period now, until the MinGW guys create their gcc4.0 patch. It will likely not be before April, so it looks like this stuff will be stable for a while now. On another note, I have started reassembling the gtk libs. It is a very slow process. ;) Bob

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svg and music/symbol fonts
by Jan Nieuwenhuizen 17 Nov '04

17 Nov '04

Hi there, I'm implementing SVG output for LilyPond, but I cannot get Inkscape to display LilyPond's custom feta music font. As the font does not have a unicode mapping and uses a custom/fontSpecific encoding I would expect Inkscape to map the characters onto the unicode PUA. Alas, that does seem not happen. This is what Sodipodi does (but Sodipodi has other font problems). Can I instruct Inkscape to map this font to the 0xe000 area, and how? Possibly by fixing the fonts.cache-1 listing, or adding an SVG text style attribute? Attached is a small LilyPond svg output and the LilyPond-feta 20 font. Greetings, Jan. -- Jan Nieuwenhuizen <janneke@...570...> | GNU LilyPond - The music typesetter http://www.xs4all.nl/~jantien | http://www.lilypond.org

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[Announcing] SFMOMA: The Open-Source Paradigm, Thursday, November 18, 2004
by Jon Phillips 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hey all, I wanted to alert you to a panel I'm on next week in San Francisco. Needless to say it is going to be major PR in the art world for Inkscape and Open Clip Art Library. If anyone is in the area, it would be a great event to attend. I'm also excited because the number 2 person at creativecommons (under lessig) is on the panel. Please forward the following PR below: ### On Thursday, November 18, 2004, SFMOMA (www.sfmoma.org) presents: The Open-Source Paradigm ======================== A Panel Discussion & Reception Moderated by Linda Jacobson, featuring new media professor Greg Niemeyer (http://art.berkeley.edu/niemeyer/) from UC Berkeley, artist-developer Jon Phillips (www.rejon.org), and Creative Commons (www.creativecommons.org) assistant director Neeru Paharia. 7:00 p.m. in the Phyllis Wattis Theater Visual artists and sound artists who create with digital tools have started to embrace the community-based, open-source software approach that's revolutionized the computer industry. As a reaction to the restrictions of intellectual property rights, the Open Source Initiative provides free computer software via the Web and allows anyone to contribute software as long as the underlying source codes are visible and shared. Explorations of the creative applications of open-source promise to expand its use beyond software development. This panel discusses the conceptual basis for the open-source movement in the arts, its history, and legal issues and presents artistic projects incorporating open-source technology. A reception in The Schwab Room follows the program. $12 general; $8 SFMOMA members, students with ID, and seniors. Tickets are available at SFMOMA (with no surcharge) or online. This event is presented in collaboration with SMAC (San Francisco Media Arts Council). Please visit www.sfmoma.org for press coverage of previous SMAC/SFMOMA event on videogames' impact on artists featuring pioneers Will Wright and Nolan Bushnell -- Jon Phillips KOREA.PH.010.3140.7483 USA.PH.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org) CVS Book (http://cvsbook.ucsd.edu) Scale Journal (http://scale.ucsd.edu)

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repackage win32 gtk24 libs
by Adib Taraben 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hi Bob, as you provided the latest gtk24 libs. Could you please repackage this zip using the libxml with zlib support from Igor Zlatkovic http://xmlsoft.org/sources/win32/ and then update the link on your website ? Thanks, Adib.

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ubuntu compile
by Robert Crosbie 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hi, I'm trying to get inkscape CVS compiling on a pretty much base ubuntu install. I installed packages as needed to get past the autogen and configure. Now the compile always fails with many syntax errors compiling filedialog. Any idea what I could be missing here? if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DPOTRACE=\"potrace\" -DXTHREADS -I/usr/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/sigc++-2.0 -I/usr/lib/sigc++-2.0/include -I/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gtkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/glibmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/glibmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/gdkmm-2.4 -I/usr/lib/gdkmm-2.4/include -I/usr/include/pangomm-1.4 -I/usr/include/atkmm-1.6 -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -Wcast-align -Wsign-compare -Woverloaded-virtual -Wswitch -Wno-unused-parameter -g -O2 -MT dialogs/filedialog.o -MD -MP -MF "dialogs/.deps/filedialog.Tpo" \ -c -o dialogs/filedialog.o `test -f 'dialogs/filedialog.cpp' || echo './'`dialogs/filedialog.cpp; \ then mv -f "dialogs/.deps/filedialog.Tpo" "dialogs/.deps/filedialog.Po"; \ else rm -f "dialogs/.deps/filedialog.Tpo"; exit 1; \ fi dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1031: error: syntax error before `;' token dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1037: error: `FileType' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1037: error: template argument 1 is invalid dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1037: error: template argument 2 is invalid dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1037: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `fileTypes' with no type dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1080: error: syntax error before `::' token dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1085: error: `svgPreview' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1085: error: `fileName' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1085: error: `dialogType' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1086: error: `retval' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1086: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ` set_preview_widget_active' with no type dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1094: error: syntax error before `::' token dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1099: error: `fileNameEntry' was not declared in this scope dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1100: error: parse error before `if' dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1109: error: syntax error before `.' token dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1110: error: syntax error before `.' token dialogs/filedialog.cpp:1111: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `fileName' with no type ... Cheers, -- Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie

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Inkscape Status November 15, 2004
by Bryce Harrington 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Statistics Nov 15 May 15 Oct 15 Nov 1 Nov 15 ========== ====== ====== ====== ===== ====== Lifetime Rank on SourceForge: 4391 1028 687 684 636 (68.5%) (92.7%) (95.2%) (95.2%) (95.6%) Max Week's Rank on SourceForge: 62 36 124 62 14 (99.6%) (99.8%) (99.3%) (99%) (100%) Total SF Page Views * 475,000 1,339,114 1,487,659 1,758,321 Total SF Downloads * 27,400 63,869 69,078 80,152 Total Freshmeat URL Hits 746 * 11,465 11,849 12,162 Total Freshmeat Subscriptions 16 74 124 125 126 Lines of Code in src/: 115,901 189,116 303,783 306,602 307,747 Code lines 147,471 216,027 217,198 217,982 Comment line 16,757 52,421 53,262 53,491 Blank 25,886 41,872 42,699 42,829 Lines of Docs in doc/: 1,135 4,544 16,841 16,841 16,974 Lines of content in website: 1,173 6,008 7,840 8,121 8,382 Size of the Inkscape wiki: 3,700 18,638 22,459 18,977 19,735 Bugs open/total: 9/15 57/365 135/653 104/683 102/733 Features open/total: 18/18 183/238 263/406 279/426 291/448 Patches open/total: 1/ 6 4/ 83 7/126 7/130 7/137 CVS Commits (as per inkscape-cvs): 481 3391 7,860 8,279 8,613 Inkscape-devel membership: 49 78 109 108 117 Inkscape-announce membership: 9 43 98 113 124 Inkscape-user membership: 71 138 144 157 Num Translations: 33 33 33 Ave Translation Ratio: 35.0% 38.5 38.4 * - Statistics unavailable

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0.40pre3
by Ted Gould 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

Hey everyone, I'm pleased to announce that 0.40pre3 is now in Sourceforge for your testing pleasure. It seems that the major crash bugs are not present at this point, this may be the last pre-release. Get your bugs in now! https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=991… Enjoy, Ted

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"Art Tips for Programmers"
by Bryce Harrington 16 Nov '04

16 Nov '04

There's a post on Slashdot right now asking about "Art Tips for Programmers" with a link to the Open Clip Art Library. Add your comments here: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/16/016244&tid=152&tid=156&tid=4 Bryce

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Spanish po update
by Lucas Vieites 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

Hi, I'm attaching another update of the spanish po file Cheers -- Lucas Vieites Fariña Dept. Desarrollo <lucas@...212...> Asix Informática <http://www.asixinformatica.com/> Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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GC debugging
by MenTaLguY 15 Nov '04

15 Nov '04

I've comitted some code which lets you select the GC implementation at runtime for debugging purposes. Basically, you can set the _INKSCAPE_GC environment variable to one of the following values: * enable - use the normal garbage-collected allocator (default) * debug - track additional debugging information[1] and detect certain types of heap corruption[2] * disable - use standard malloc in place of the GC allocator[3] _INKSCAPE_GC=disable mostly replaces the --disable-gc ./configure option, which has been removed. -mental --- [1] for example, you can trace the path of references from an object to a GC root, to debug problems like an object mysteriously not getting collected [2] it can't detect all corruption, but makes an honest effort [3] it will leak memory fiercely, of course, since memory allocated with the standard allocator isn't automatically freed, but it's helpful for debugging sometimes

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Win32 cross-compile problem
by Jon A. Cruz 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Well.. I tweaked a .pl file to use the xcc version of one tool, but now I'm hitting another issue cd ~/Win32/inkscape/ make -f Makefile.mingw make -C po -f Makefile.mingw make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joncruz/Win32/inkscape/po' make[1]: `all' is up to date. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joncruz/Win32/inkscape/po' make -C src -f Makefile.mingw make[1]: Entering directory `/home/joncruz/Win32/inkscape/src' i686-pc-mingw32-dllwrap --output-lib=inkscape.la \ --def=inkscape.def --driver-name=g++ \ -o inkscape.dll libinkscape.a -L/target/lib -lgtkmm-2.4 -lgdkmm-2.4 -lglibmm-2.4 -latkmm-1.6 -lpangomm-1.4 -lsigc-2.0 -lgtk-win32-2.0 -lgdk-win32-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoft2-1.0 -lpangowin32-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lgthread-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lxml2 /target/lib/iconv.lib -lfreetype6.dll -lfontconfig-1.dll -lpng -lpopt /target/lib/zdll.lib -lgc -mwindows -lws2_32 -lintl /usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option '--base-file' /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information collect2: ld returned 1 exit status i686-pc-mingw32-dllwrap: g++ exited with status 1 make[1]: *** [inkscape.dll] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/joncruz/Win32/inkscape/src' make: *** [all] Error 2 So... anyone have ideas on making it hit the proper version of ld?

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extensions on Win32
by John Cliff 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

Hi guys, Having got the svg input fixed i've been looking to see if i could get output working too. In looking into it have found that currently the extensions stuff doesnt work on windows. For some reason the popen call in script::execute is refusing to open the pipe. I've tried the exact same code in a standalone program and it works absolutely fine, so am a bit stumped as to what it is. I've had a dig through our sources and the include files, and I can't see anything thats overriding it. If any of you have any ideas, I'd welcome the input. The only other issue I can see with it is some hard coded /tmp/ strings for the temporay files, which need to use the g_whatever call to get the temp directory instead. Cheers John __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com

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Couple of import/export bugs
by miriam clinton (iriXx) 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

While having my first play with Inkscape yesterday i noticed that while its possible to save to an .ai Illustrator file, and an .eps, this can only be effectively used for print really. In Illustrator, all text and objects appear selected and grouped when the item is open, and then when ungrouped, text is not editable on the path - you can pull the text all over the place in single letters but its not possible to re-word it. Once I'd saved in Illustrator I couldnt re-open the file in Inkscape at all. I'd be more than happy to test these problems as I've got both apps at the ready. best, mC~ -- 99% of aliens prefer Earth --Eminem www.iriXx.org www.copyleftmedia.org.uk

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auto-increment object id's?
by Jay Vaughan 14 Nov '04

14 Nov '04

hey, i use inkscape a lot - it is my primary svg editor - and i'm very impressed with it. but there's one thing that frustrates me, and that is the way it handles auto-id assignment. ideally i'd like to be able to select a group of objects, set the ID property of one, with a -1 at the end, and have the rest all be enumerated based on the first one.. is there any way to tell inkscape to use specific id's for objects, and auto-increment properly? i've dl'ed the code and had a look at the sd-object "sp_object_get_unique_id" function, but it doesn't look to me as if theres' an 'easy' way to get it to handle auto-increments properly without majorly restructuring things .. anyone got clues? -- ; Jay Vaughan

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Good news (but could be better)
by Alan Horkan 13 Nov '04

13 Nov '04

Although Inkscape did not win this years Linux Journal Readers Choice Award in the best Graphics category it did get a mention as having received the most write in votes which bodes well for next year. Sincerely Alan Horkan Free SVG Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Inkscape, Draw Freely http://inkscape.org

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