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Grid-related patches committed for comments
by Carl Hetherington 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hi, I've committed a couple of patches to the grid behaviour, after discussion with Buila on jabber. If anyone has problems, please say so and I'll fix or back out the patch. 1. Removed feature where alt-drag provides a "slow drag" when moving objects. 2. When moving objects, alt-drag now moves them without snapping, even if the grid is enabled. 3. When moving objects with the grid enabled, the current behaviour is to snap the objects "snap points" to the grid. This patch adds an alternative behaviour on Shift-drag: moved objects are snapped such that they keep the offset from the grid that they had before the move. 4. When you paste an object it is pasted at the same offset from the grid as the original. 5. An option in Inkscape preferences to make (3) the default and the current behaviour happen on Shift-drag. My rationale for (3), in case anyone's interested: It's basically for doing simple line drawings. Draw a simple shape made out of straight lines, some of whose points are snapped to the grid. Now if you move this object around, the bounding box of this object will be snapped, rather than the points themselves. This means that the line position plus its width will be snapped. If you then try to draw another line which joins to the object you've just moved, the new line's points will be snapped. Hence the old object and new line will not meet up, being offset by half the line width. It's possible that this would be better implemented by improving Inkscape's ideas of what "snap points" are, but the end result would be similar. Thanks Carl

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current snapshot is amazing!!! but here are some issues...
by Artemio 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hello there! I just installed the 20040510 snapshot - the things you guys have done with "clone", "inkscape preferences" and stroke style are very cool and useful. Thanks! There are several things I'd like to note though. 1. Look at the snapshot (attached). Some drop-down lists are smaller-sized but the font is still sized as in bigger widgets, and on muy system I can't see the current selected option. 2. Printer command is not yet stored :-( 3. It is the most minor issue, but it looks like Inkscape now closes and opens it's window on startup and on opening new files. It is fairly okay, but this makes a sort of blinking so maybe there's a better way to make this "virgin" tag work instead of killing the previous instance. Or maybe I just don't understand something ;-) Good luck and thanks for your great work! Artemio. -- ArtemioLabs :.: innovative audio laboratories :.: http://artemiolabs.com [local time 16:48:51 (GMT +3) 11 May 2004] [system uptime 43 min]

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AW: [Inkscape-devel] download page and win32
by Taraben, Adib 12 May '04

12 May '04

Yes I can confirm this behaviour. Look at .inkscape\\makefile.mingw It is copied to config.h in the make-proccess. HTH, Adib. ----------------------------------- > > Can someone verify that the windows build is correctly updating > "config.h": the g_ascii_strtod macro isn't being defined in the > autobuilds, it looks like. AFAIK the windows build uses inkscape/config.h.mingw as its config.h. Anything that needs to be in config.h must be added here, I think. Carl

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AW: [Inkscape-devel] Looking for icons
by Taraben, Adib 12 May '04

12 May '04

The icons are located in the icons.svg file. Each single icon is in his own group. This is the original source of the separate icon files. HTH, Adib. ________________________________ Von: inkscape-devel-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net im Auftrag von Cédric GEMY Gesendet: Mi 12.05.2004 12:38 An: Inkscape devel list Betreff: [Inkscape-devel] Looking for icons I've taken the icons dir of Inkscape, but I'm surprise not to find the uptodate ones. I need them to update the manual from Sodipodi to Inkscape. Where can I find them. May be bulya has some ? Cedric ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=dnemail3 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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Looking for icons
by Cédric GEMY 12 May '04

12 May '04

I've taken the icons dir of Inkscape, but I'm surprise not to find the uptodate ones. I need them to update the manual from Sodipodi to Inkscape. Where can I find them. May be bulya has some ? Cedric

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export selection in 20040510 snapshot
by Artemio 12 May '04

12 May '04

Hi everybody! "Export selection" in the 20040510 snapshot always exports the whole page anyway. Artemio. -- A-Man :.: new music from Artemio :.: http://a-man.artemio.net [local time 12:33:13 (GMT +3) 12 May 2004] [system uptime 4 hr 28 min]

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AW: [Inkscape-devel] popt
by Taraben, Adib 12 May '04

12 May '04

There is a popt lib on sourceforge for the gcc on http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/popt.htm never tried Adib. ________________________________ Von: inkscape-devel-admin(a)lists.sourceforge.net im Auftrag von Kees Cook Gesendet: Mi 12.05.2004 00:42 An: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: [Inkscape-devel] popt Is popt available in the win32 builds? I was going to make it a requirement for the build (to close bug 948333). -- Kees Cook @outflux.net ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Sleepycat Software Learn developer strategies Cisco, Motorola, Ericsson & Lucent use to deliver higher performing products faster, at low TCO. http://www.sleepycat.com/telcomwpreg.php?From=osdnemail3 _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] bad transparency export
by bulia byak 11 May '04

11 May '04

>I'm using the build from 6th of May... and the export of gradient with >transparency is somewhat messed up when you make excessive use of it... >it works fine, if you have a background color to export. >picture one is with white as bg color exported, picture two is with the >background filled in gimp. >Does anybody have the same problem or can reproduce it? I do not see any attachments in your mail. Please submit a bug report with your samples. I just tried exporting gradients with transparency and don't see any problems. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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bad transparency export
by David Christian Berg 11 May '04

11 May '04

Hi guys, I'm using the build from 6th of May... and the export of gradient with transparency is somewhat messed up when you make excessive use of it... it works fine, if you have a background color to export. picture one is with white as bg color exported, picture two is with the background filled in gimp. Does anybody have the same problem or can reproduce it? David -- Otto von Bismarck once remarked: “A fool learns from his experience. A wise person learns from the experience of others.” If so, how to define President George W. Bush, who is not even able to learn from his own experience?

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bitmap fill patch
by bulia byak 10 May '04

10 May '04

Simarilius, I finally reviewed your pattern fill patch. It works :) - Why does it only work for bitmaps? AFAIK the mechanism is pretty similar for fills out of SVG objects, so why not enable them as well. - I would expect it to show me the bitmaps imported into the document in the list as well, not only those i specifically import from the dialog. - Most importantly, there's no way to adjust the position of the bitmap inside a path. Ideally I would like to see on-canvas handles that would let me to arbitrarily move, scale, rotate, and skew the fill inside the path, but for the patch to be usable, _at least_ move must be implemented. You may try to create an arena in the dialog, similar to those in the gradient tabs, that would show the bbox rect of the object and a draggable handle that positions the fill's top left corner (you can steal most of the code from gradient tabs). - A related bug that must be fixed: objects that write transforms with optimization, such as path, do not update the position of the fill. So that looks like you're moving a window into an unmoving wall of repeating bitmap tiles. Non-optimizing objects (ellipse) work as expected, transforming their fill with them. Better yet, it would be nice to have a switch that would allow me to enable any of these two behaviors for any object. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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unable to open files
by David Christian Berg 10 May '04

10 May '04

with todays build I can't open files... instead they are always linked as images in a new document. this sucks David

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] crazy idea: map ourselves
by bulia byak 10 May '04

10 May '04

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] crazy idea: map ourselves
by Lucas Vieites 10 May '04

10 May '04

El lun, 10-05-2004 a las 08:09, Kees Cook escribió: [...] > appearing on such a thing send me their long/lat (or an address I can go > convert). I think it would be cool to see an "about" screen (or even a > "users of inkscape" map) that shows what a diverse set of places we come > from. Reserve me a square yard at: 42º 30' N 8º 04' W -- Lucas Vieites Fariña Asix Informática <info@...212...> http://www.asixinformatica.com/ Tel/Fax: +34 986 54 26 98

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NRArenaShape and SPStyle
by MenTaLguY 10 May '04

10 May '04

Just a quick heads up that I'm working on removing the SPStyle dependency from NRArenaShape. This should permit a cleaner separation between the renderer and the SPItem layer, as well as making future style cleanups much easier... -mental

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RE: typeset
by bulia byak 09 May '04

09 May '04

>dx/dy and letterspacing are not the way i intend to >store glyph coordinates in the layout; x/y attributes >are. Why? The most likely failure scenario is that the font used originally is not found or has different metrics. In this case, using letter/word spacing will result in wrong line lengths, but the text itself will remain readable. Using x/y will _almost_ (but not quite, due to the last letter) preserve line lengths, but may render text ugly or even completely unreadable, with letters overlapping each other etc. I think the first case (wrong line lengths) is much preferable to the second. Besides, line/word spacing settings per line take much less space in the source file. this is just a preliminary test to see if >something is badly fucked up. note that on this >sample, inkscape screws up somewhere in the advance of >glyphs, since it ends with a total length smaller than >what pango computes, hence the letterspacing (ie. the >dx attribute) doesn't compensate fully and the right >of the text is not the right of the text shape > > > 4 Currently your sample works in Batik, but crashes > > Inkscape on load :) > >i'm a 'printf debugger', so this is normal output. but >it works fine here. maybe some messing up with >deleting the children of the group or something like >that. also note that inkscape will not render the text >correctly when loading, because it can't get the >shape's curve (since the element it queries for the >shape is initialized after it), but as soon as you >change the shape, it will layout the text (in the >shape before the change, so this is still fucked up, >but hopefully i'll find a way around) > > > > > > >Vous manquez d�espace pour stocker vos mails ? >Yahoo! Mail : 6 Mo gratuits ! >Cr�ez votre Yahoo! Mail sur http://fr.benefits.yahoo.com/ > >Dialoguez en direct avec vos amis gr�ce � Yahoo! Messenger !T�l�chargez >Yahoo! Messenger sur http://fr.messenger.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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wow, this is amazing!
by Artemio 09 May '04

09 May '04

Hello guys! Bryce is so fast! ;-) -> http://inkscape.org/screenshots/examples/web_design/ <- Thanks so much! I'm so proud of myself ;-) You inspired me to send you more shots!!! ;-) I hope to send you shots for lilija.com.ua tomorrow!!! THANKS!!!! Artemio. -- KDEvibes :.: audio environment for KDE :.: http://kdevibes.artemio.net [local time 22:36:16 (GMT +3) 9 May 2004] [system uptime 14 min]

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RE: typeset
by bulia byak 09 May '04

09 May '04

Fred, Now that I see your sample, it's truly grand. Something like that we were contemplating with njh some time ago, but it seemed like a long time away :) A few points: 1 Why don't you use standard URIs for linking the typeset group with its shape? i.e. instead of non-standard inkscape:dstShape="[rect1525]" I propose inkscape:dstShape="#rect1525" which will allow you to use the standard URIReference class. 2 You use dx for spacing the line, but since all dx values are the same, it's much easier to add a letter-spacing property, e.g.: style="font-family:Luxi Sans;font-size:12.000000;letter-spacing:0.345123" That will work out of the box. Still better would be using word-spacing for small stretches, and add some letter-spacing when stretch becomes too large (with user-settable threshold). The word-spacing property is not yet supported, but it's easy to add it - just let me know and I'll implement it. 3 When all dy values are 0, you don't need to set the dy vector at all. 4 Currently your sample works in Batik, but crashes Inkscape on load :) typeset 82e0910: n src= The Digital Millennium Copyright Act, better known as the DMCA, is a travesty of law. The act (summary available here in PDF form) was passed in 1998 and since this period of time it has been used in the most egregious ways to shut down Fair Use and competition in the marketplace. From being used to justify illegal subpoenas, to making reverse engineering easily preventable, to shutting down toner cartridge competition, to killing off Fair Use, the law is a major blow to consumer interests. While some uses of the DMCA have met stiff rebuttals from the judiciary (e.g., Lexmark toner ploy was defeated for now), the law remains in need of revocation or serious reworking. Here's the beef: ditch typeset 82e0910: n shape dst= [rect1525] ** (inkscape:20246): CRITICAL **: file desktop-handles.cpp: line 40 (SPDocument* sp_desktop_document(SPDesktop*)): assertion `desktop != NULL' failed ** ERROR **: file document-undo.cpp: line 77 (void sp_document_maybe_done(SPDocument*, const gchar*)): assertion failed: (doc != NULL) aborting... _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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"ugly icons" problem
by Kees Cook 09 May '04

09 May '04

Well! It looks like g_ascii_strtod is NOT totally locale safe! What a shame. Here are the reports from my debugging of src/svg/svg-affine.cpp, sp_svg_transform_read: Under "C" locale: took 1 chars from '1,0,0,0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 1.000000 took 1 chars from '0,0,0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0.000000 took 1 chars from '0,0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0.000000 took 8 chars from '0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0.999999 took 11 chars from '4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0.000000 took 12 chars from '-1.09524e-06)' to make -0.000001 Under "fr_FR" locale: took 3 chars from '1,0,0,0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 1,000000 took 3 chars from '0,0.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0,000000 took 7 chars from '.999999,4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0,999999 took 11 chars from '4.42378e-08,-1.09524e-06)' to make 0,000000 took 12 chars from '-1.09524e-06)' to make -0,000001 Yuck! (And it works correctly under "LANG=fr_FR LC_NUMERIC=C", further proving it to be locale-sensitive.) And, checking the most recent CVS of gstrfuncs.c in the gnome cvs: * glib/gstrfuncs.c (g_ascii_strtod): Fix problems when a locale-specific decimal separator directly follows a number. (#138424, Nickolay V. Shmyrev) -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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bitmap fill patch
by bulia byak 09 May '04

09 May '04

Simarilius, I finally reviewed your pattern fill patch. It works :) - Why does it only work for bitmaps? AFAIK the mechanism is pretty similar for fills out of SVG objects, so why not enable them as well. - I would expect it to show me the bitmaps imported into the document in the list as well, not only those i specifically import from the dialog. - Most importantly, there's no way to adjust the position of the bitmap inside a path. Ideally I would like to see on-canvas handles that would let me to arbitrarily move, scale, rotate, and skew the fill inside the path, but for the patch to be usable, _at least_ move must be implemented. You may try to create an arena in the dialog, similar to those in the gradient tabs, that would show the bbox rect of the object and a draggable handle that positions the fill's top left corner (you can steal most of the code from gradient tabs). - A related bug that must be fixed: objects that write transforms with optimization, such as path, do not update the position of the fill. So that looks like you're moving a window into an unmoving wall of repeating bitmap tiles. Non-optimizing objects (ellipse) work as expected, transforming their fill with them. Better yet, it would be nice to have a switch that would allow me to enable any of these two behaviors for any object. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] unable to open files
by bulia byak 08 May '04

08 May '04

>So basically I'm stuck with two versions of inkscape that aren't working >for me, right now... I just installed the latest debian-package, >.38.1-something, and it crashes on me everytime, I try to open the "fill >and stroke" dialog :( Bug reports with complete details and backtraces would be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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can't save document bg colour changes
by Artemio 08 May '04

08 May '04

Hello all! If I open an SVG file, then modify the document bg colour, and press Ctrl+S, I get that "No changes need to be saved". So in order to change the bg and save the file, I have to move some object back and forth and then Inkscape saves everything well as "there are changes needed to be saved" ;-) So the obvious solution would probably be to toggle the "modified" status on document bg colour change. Artemio. -- A-Man :.: new music from Artemio :.: http://a-man.artemio.net [local time 19:34:57 (GMT +3) 7 May 2004] [system uptime 2 hr 33 min]

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] unable to open files
by bulia byak 08 May '04

08 May '04

>The program 'inkscape' received an X Window System error. I recently got this error when it was trying to display a dasharray with too small dashes and failed. Try removing/renaming your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml and run it again. Also this error is fixed in CVS since yesterday, update to the latest CVS and try again. I assume this refers to the error where it crashes displaying the Fill&Stroke dialog. Your error with opening files is still a mystery. Please provide more information. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] remaining locale problems?
by bulia byak 08 May '04

08 May '04

>Oops. I (think I have) sent a few screenshots to the list some time >ago. Did anyone receive that attachment? The list was being malfunctioning recently. >I will build from CVS and file a bug report now (if still needed). >Speaking of locale stuff, there's one more thing: are tutorial file >names >localizable now? Not too long ago they seemed to not be. This is likely a regression caused by converting tutorial commands to verbs. Kees should look into it, as it was his change. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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vector graphics + M$
by Jon Phillips 08 May '04

08 May '04

Hello all, I wondered if you all checked out this: http://osnews.com/story.php?news_id=6978 Talk about the new MS vector graphics system and new windowing. You can see how SVG will be pushed around in the future. All the more reason to push SVG and Inkscape between now and before AVALON and the new WINDOWS is released. This adds new urgency to the cause. Man, why can't M$ just go along with some open standards! Arg!!! Jon -- Jon Phillips Graduate Researcher Visual Arts Department PO BOX 948667 LA JOLLA, CA 92037 USA cell.858.361.2811 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org

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remaining locale problems?
by bulia byak 07 May '04

07 May '04

Hi Arpad, I seem to have missed your mail with screenshots of the remaining locale-related problems. Once again: if you don't get a response on the list soon, _please_ submit a bug report with all the relevant info. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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