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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Calligraphy Pen
by bulia byak 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

> > I'm interested in adding another calligraphy tool. The old calligraphy tool is not only inconvenient to use, it's bad because it produces shapes with fill instead of strokes, which are very difficult to edit afterwards. We've been contemplating introducing a new Inkscape object type which would store the midline of the path you draw (as a sequence of beziers) and a function that gives the stroke width for each point along the path. That way, you'll be able to tweak the path (midline) and it will still keep the shape (widths). The width function may be just an array of width values for all points at some step distance from each other along the path, with the stroke shape approximated as a polygon based on these values. I think a calligraphy pen implemented via this object will not only be much more convenient to use, but also much easier to implement. The only problem is that the "shaped stroke" object is not implemented yet, it needs to be coded. Depending on your programming experience, you could participate in working on that object so you can later use it for a new calligraphy tool. I'm Cc:ing Nathan Hurst with whom we've discussed the shaped stroke idea. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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stroke tips cut off
by David Christian Berg 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

I just submitted bug 932254. When the angle of the corner of a shape is small enought, you notice, that the tip of the stroke is cut off. What is wierd about it, is that no matter how you rotate the object, the tip is always cut off vertical and horizontal. It seems like there was a bounding box for the object, outside of which the stroke is not drawn anymore. Have a look at the picture I submitted with the bug report. Take care David

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] stroke tips cut off
by bulia byak 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

>For me, this picture is blank. Mozilla and curl both give me an empty >file. It seems to be a Sourceforge problem. All tracker attachments are blank. _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] view, hide dialogs
by bulia byak 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

> > Though using it, I notice, that F12 isn't good a binding, cause I have > > my right hand on the mouse and it's too far away for the left hand. > > David > >Not to mention that it is impossible to use for the F-impaired (most Mac >users). Feel free to propose another. Just make sure your proposal takes into account other existing bindings. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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view, hide dialogs
by David Christian Berg 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Well, most of you will agree that inkscape should move into a direction where dialogs get smaller and less important, and that rather the secondary toolbar should be used instead. But since that is a long way, I suspect, how about an option to view/hide all _active_ dialogs. There should be an item for this in the menubar>view menu and I'd suggest that ctrl-tab does the same. I know this behaviour from indesign, but it's not that useful there, because it hides your toolbar aswell, which kinda sucks, because it's hard to keep on working. Anyway, what do you think about it? David

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spiral tool
by David Christian Berg 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

I'm not sure, if it is a bug, but is sure looks wrong! Take a look at the attached png and you'll know, what I'm talking about. This happens with a low divergence and the inner radius set to 0. I don't understand why the spiral would wind in with an angle of almost a 90°. David

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Roadmapping for 0.39-0.50
by bulia byak 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

>I like to see some type of simplification in inkscape. > >In icons.svg in the style attribute of rect elements there is ie font-size. It is not added to new rects anymore. Those rects were created in old versions. >This makes no sense and can deleted. >Also unused gradients etc. Yes. That might be a good project for someone to take on. However I think it needs to wait until we streamline CSS properties handling, otherwise it will be very hard to do cleanly. CSS support is currently a mess (as you could notice when doing the stringstream patches - there are way too many places where properties are built on the spot with ugly printfs, without much care about cascading, defaults, etc.) >Adib. >PS: I have no glue what this Path-cleanup is doing It removes empty subpaths AFAIK. Not too necessary, but let it remain until we have a more useful cleanup command. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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unable to select a tool
by David Christian Berg 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Not sure, what I did, and I haven't managed to reproduce that bug yet, but I opened the tips and tricks tutorial, went back to my document and was not able to select a tool anymore. I could select all the toolbuttons and have them all pressed at once, but there was no way to change the tool from caligraphic pen to anything else. also the dialogs would be behind my window. When I closed the tutorial, everything worked fine, but reopening it messed up things again. Restarting inkscape turned out to be a way to get rid of that problem. But as I said, I have not managed to reproduce it yet. David

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RE: 0.38.1 release
by bulia byak 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

>Once at least bulia and bryce have signed off on it, I'd like you to >proceed with the point release (assuming you don't find any showstoppers >yourself). Tested, works, please tarball (again :) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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0.38.1 release
by MenTaLguY 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Ted, I've fixed the two bugs and tagged 0.38.1 in CVS (RELEASE_0_38_1). Once at least bulia and bryce have signed off on it, I'd like you to proceed with the point release (assuming you don't find any showstoppers yourself). Thanks, -mental

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Re: ftos.cpp
by MenTaLguY 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 08:42, fred wrote: > this file breaks compilation on OSX, because it calls > ecvt() which doesn't exists on OSX, and since the > __FreeBSD__ flags is not set, it doesn't avoid it by > using the alternate code Mea culpa. I should have conditionalized its compilation as well as its actual usage in the code. Since it looks like we're doing an 0.38.1 release anyway (c.f. bulia's "oops"), I'll take the opportunity to fix this one properly now though. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Printing markers
by bulia byak 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

>I won't really have a chance until tomorrow evening, so might be best if >someone else could take care of it sooner. I can try. Must we call it 0.38.1, or just replace the old 0.38 with the new one? _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium includes powerful parental controls and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Printing markers
by bulia byak 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

>Strange... I don't know anything about the postscript code so don't >have any idea might be wrong, but a place to start might be to see if >postscript has a built in analog to markers - i.e., how are line markers >done in PS? No support AFAIK. You need to create a separate path for each marker positioning it on the line. Bryce, can you please redo the tarball with the ps.cpp fix? _________________________________________________________________ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Printing markers
by Carl Hetherington 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi, My arrow head patch is working ok, but I now realise that markers don't currently print to PostScript. Any tips for how I should do this, before I blunder in on my own? I've got as far as needing to add stuff to sp_shape_print(), and needing to perform the correct transforms on the marker paths before printing them. Cheers Carl

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Downloading patches
by Arpad Biro 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi, I can't seem to be able to download patches. When I click the "Download" link, all I get is an empty page. Tried with Mozilla, Firefox, Galeon, Konqueror, wget and curl, but all to no avail. Could someone enlighten me about this? In the meantime, could someone please commit the new "es_MX.po"? (That was what I was trying to download.) Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] gradients and stroke
by bulia byak 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

>I'd have been testing it before the release, if I'd had the time to do >so. Anyway, there's a few minor things I noticed. The stroke is not >always properly displayed. When being dotted, you sometimes get dashes >on one side of a rectangular. Moving or zooming helps to draw it >correctly, though moving back or going back to the previous zoom-level >changes it back to the wrong display. Noticed that too. Please file a bug. >Thank you for adding multicolor gradients! But please consider redoing >the way you chose the colors... add a few arrows to the gradient display >at the top that can be selected and moved around. When selected one can >chose the color for that stop. a new stop is created by double clicking >a stop is removed by dragging it out toward the bottom of the gradient >display. >Basically what it's look like is like the value selectors. >I think what I discribed is how gradient in corel work, but I'm not sure >about it. Of course. This was just the easiest UI to do quickly, "better than nothing", compiled from existing UI elements. A more sophisticated gradient editor should be built eventually. >Anyway, I was also wondering how an excentric gradient as the one on the >screenshot on inkscape.org is created, couldn't yet figure that out. See the second item in the Tips and Tricks tutorial. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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gradients and stroke
by David Christian Berg 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

i just installed todays cvs, so basically 0.38. good job! I'd have been testing it before the release, if I'd had the time to do so. Anyway, there's a few minor things I noticed. The stroke is not always properly displayed. When being dotted, you sometimes get dashes on one side of a rectangular. Moving or zooming helps to draw it correctly, though moving back or going back to the previous zoom-level changes it back to the wrong display. Thank you for adding multicolor gradients! But please consider redoing the way you chose the colors... add a few arrows to the gradient display at the top that can be selected and moved around. When selected one can chose the color for that stop. a new stop is created by double clicking a stop is removed by dragging it out toward the bottom of the gradient display. Basically what it's look like is like the value selectors. I think what I discribed is how gradient in corel work, but I'm not sure about it. Anyway, I was also wondering how an excentric gradient as the one on the screenshot on inkscape.org is created, couldn't yet figure that out. I'll keep on testing and complaining ;) But I can see inkscape leaving corel draw behind within 2004. Take care David

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Re: Re: Localization status
by Arpad Biro 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi, > What's the best way to send updated PO files? Patch tracker? Yes, IMHO the tracker would be the best for this purpose. (If PO files are sent to the mailing list, then I guess everyone on the list will receive them, which is not needed.) Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Release 0.38
by Bryce Harrington 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Tonight the 0.38 release was made and CVS tagged. Congratulations everyone, this release embodies a great wealth of contributions from an impressive number of people, providing users with a significant advance over the previous release. http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ReleaseNotes038 The 0.38 tarball is available on the SourceForge download page. Packagers may now use this to generate packages. Either post the files on SourceForge, or simply announce them here and ask an admin to post them. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438 As before, we are allocating a few days for packaging before we make the official announcements, so that when the announce goes out, we have sufficient breadth of packages for interested users. With tonight's release, the feature freeze is finished, and so developers are encouraged to merge branches, apply patches, and set forth on new development as desired. Enjoy! Bryce

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] image URL not updating
by bulia byak 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

>For example, I have an image in the document. When I edit the image URL >(say I >set pic6.png instead of pic5.png), and then hit this "apply arrow" button, >the image is not reloaded. Inkscape 0.37, it would reloan and how the >updated >image in this case. Now, I had to reload the whole SVG again and only then >the image changed. Please file a bug. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Premium with Virus Guard and Firewall* from McAfee� Security : 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Localization status
by Arpad Biro 08 Apr '04

08 Apr '04

Hi, > I've also added you to the bug and patch tracker, > so you will have access to update tickets for > submitted translations. OK, I will test with my next translation. It seems I will also have to subscribe to the list (as opposed to reading it from the archives) so that I also have access to mail attachments. > Could you take a look at some of the other > translations and see what proportion we have > that are up to date vs. ones that are out of > date? I made a small script for this purpose; sending it attached. The full output for the current PO files is also attached; the most important part follows: Total number of localizable strings: 705 ./am.po translated: 131 ( 18 %) ./az.po translated: 84 ( 11 %) ./be.po translated: 309 ( 43 %) ./ca.po translated: 227 ( 32 %) ./cs.po translated: 322 ( 45 %) ./da.po translated: 156 ( 22 %) ./de.po translated: 321 ( 45 %) ./el.po translated: 61 ( 8 %) ./es_MX.po translated: 704 ( 99 %) ./es.po translated: 569 ( 80 %) ./et.po translated: 11 ( 1 %) ./fr.po translated: 614 ( 87 %) ./ga.po translated: 13 ( 1 %) ./gl.po translated: 113 ( 16 %) ./hu.po translated: 705 (100 %) ./it.po translated: 135 ( 19 %) ./ja.po translated: 529 ( 75 %) ./mk.po translated: 0 ( 0 %) ./nl.po translated: 307 ( 43 %) ./no.po translated: 288 ( 40 %) ./pl.po translated: 271 ( 38 %) ./pt_BR.po translated: 11 ( 1 %) ./pt.po translated: 336 ( 47 %) ./ru.po translated: 534 ( 75 %) ./sk.po translated: 336 ( 47 %) ./sl.po translated: 174 ( 24 %) ./sr@...311... translated: 335 ( 47 %) ./sr.po translated: 335 ( 47 %) ./sv.po translated: 338 ( 47 %) ./tr.po translated: 303 ( 42 %) ./uk.po translated: 194 ( 27 %) ./zh_CN.po translated: 173 ( 24 %) Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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RE: stroke width and test, test, test.
by bulia byak 07 Apr '04

07 Apr '04

>A Comment on Stroke Width. >When you draw a solid line and then change stroke width it looks like a a >simple width change is occurring. >However, when you choose a different stroke style You mean pattern? and then change stroke >width then it is clear that the line is actually scaled rather than simply >having its width changed. You mean, the length of the dashes is also changed? This is obviously as designed - the dashes are defined in the units of stroke width. I find this quite convenient, although now that I look it up in the SVG spec, this does not seem to be conformant behavior: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/painting.html#StrokeProperties _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN Premium http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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image URL not updating
by Artemio 07 Apr '04

07 Apr '04

Hello there! I'm using the 4/04/2004 snapshot. For example, I have an image in the document. When I edit the image URL (say I set pic6.png instead of pic5.png), and then hit this "apply arrow" button, the image is not reloaded. Inkscape 0.37, it would reloan and how the updated image in this case. Now, I had to reload the whole SVG again and only then the image changed. Good luck! Artemio. -- KDEvibes ::: audio environment for KDE ::: http://kdevibes.artemio.net/ [local time 21:21:13 (GMT +3) 7 April 2004] [system uptime 38 min]

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Re: Re: How to handle translation updates
by Arpad Biro 07 Apr '04

07 Apr '04

Hi, > Okay, send me your SF user account ID. I sent it (in private), but it bounced back... Anyway, the ID is "a_b". Arpad Biro __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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Inkscape 0.38 Status
by Bryce Harrington 07 Apr '04

07 Apr '04

Here's the updated stats for today: 2/18 2/22 2/24 2/28 3/ 2 3/ 4 3/ 6 Goal ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- 1. Bugs 841633-896992 52 45 34 33 29 28 28 9 2. Open/Total Bug Ratio 33% 28% 22% 24% 20% 21% 23% 10% Bryce

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