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Remaining Tasks for 0.37 Release
by Bryce Harrington 11 Feb '04

11 Feb '04

Here's the specific things to do before the feature freeze: * Review #if 0 code in bonobo/ * Review #if 0 code in desktop*.cpp and svg-view.cpp files [ted] * Review #if 0 code in sp-gradient.cpp, sp-root.cpp [tvon] * Review #if 0 code in file.h, interface.cpp, geom.cpp, inkscape.cpp, and style.cpp [ishmal] * Review #if 0 code in *-chemistry.cpp and seltrans.cpp [pjrm] * Review #if 0 code in svg/ * Review #if 0 code in display/ [mental] * Review #if 0 code in xml/ * Convert all tabs into spaces in codebase * Rename all 'SPFooBar' routines to 'FooBar' and put into namespaces [mental] * Update coding-style.txt from the Coding_Style page in wiki When all of these are done, we will feature-freeze, and the focus will be on bug fixing. There are 10 bugs rated critical, that will need fixing. 5 of these do not yet have an owner so we need volunteers to take care of them. We also need to review the lower priority bugs to see if there are additional critical ones that will need fixing. Once the critical bugs are fixed, we will establish the stable branch for 0.37 and the release team can get to work on packaging and creation of binaries. Once we have binaries for Windows, OSX, and a couple common linux distros, we can begin sending out announcements. :-) Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Grid toggle / snapping keyboard shortcut
by bulia byak 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

> > Would it be feasible to have the # key toggle both the grid visibility > > and grid snapping at the same time? > >Before implementing, we should consider what the key should do if the >grid is currently enabled and not snapping, hide grid, don't touch snapping >or vice versa. show grid, don't touch snapping imho _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Grid toggle / snapping keyboard shortcut
by Bryce Harrington 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Bulia, I've been making good use of the # shortcut for turning the grid on and off. Quite handy. However, every time I put the grid on, I also want to snap to the grid, yet afaik there's no shortcut key for it, so I have to open the edit window settings anyway, so the value of the # shortcut key is lost. Would it be feasible to have the # key toggle both the grid visibility and grid snapping at the same time? If it is feasible, what do you think about setting it to work that way? I think it'd be a big time saver for those of us interested in using inkscape for technical drawing. Bryce

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POPT bugfix
by Bob Jamison 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

I don't know how, but the file association stuff wasn't working last night. Since I really, really wanted that to work, I looked at main.cpp to see what Win32 needed to be in sync. Main.cpp, as it is, needs WITH_POPT badly, and we haven't been using it on Win32. Until now. I stayed up all night and made a static build of libpopt.a, and added it to the canned Gtk/Gnu win32 libs. The Gnu-Win32 web site's version of popt had unwanted dependencies. Now the command-line parsing on Win32 is the same as for the Unices, so things should be relatively unbreakable now. I also added inkscape.nsi, which is an NSIS (Nullsoft Installer) script which performs some minimalist installer/uninstaller functions. I still need to add the Bitstream Vera fonts to it. Bob

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FINAL RELEASE OF 0.37 HAPPENING NOW -- HOLD CVS COMMITS
by Jonathan Phillips 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Hello ALL, The tree is cut and the 0.37 package process is beginning. Only very very very serious fixes are allowed, and get onto chat b4 any commits. We have closed most of the critical bugs, and any known bugs we pushed into the NEWS and RELEASE NOTES. We will probably issue a maintenance release like 0.37.1 after a few little features are ironed out post our 0.37 release, but we are getting this thing out of the gate tonight. Thanks, Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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Possibility of tutorial translation
by Alexey Remizov 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Hello. May be it is reasonable to add gettext function to sp_help_tutorial: sp_help_tutorial (void) { sp_file_open (INKSCAPE_PIXMAPDIR _("/tutorial.svg"), NULL); Then it will be possible to support translations of tutorial. -- С уважением. | WBR. | Алексей. | Alexey. | ----------------------------| mailto:alexey@...188... | jabber:remizov@...189... | ----------------------------'

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] tutorial, terms
by bulia byak 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

>Here are the Bitstream Vera files. I suggest that we make a >/fonts toplevel directory in the CVS tree and add them. They >add up to 564kb. Maybe add them only for Windows? Reasons: 1) Linux users are more likely to have them already, and 2) they are generally less happy when a program installs something except itself. >I haven't looked, but isn't it possible in X to add a >font for a specific application? Just add it to the >font path? If so, it would make installing Inkscape >on X a lot easier On a modern system, you just drop them into ~/.fonts. But I don't know if it's acceptable for an RPM or install script to do this. As for Windows, yes, ideally it should install these fonts, and at the very least, the installer should provide the fonts and tell the user to install them. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Release Candidate + Consensus
by Jonathan Phillips 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

Hello All, We got 2 more critical bugs out of the way and that was our target range for the release. Soooo, with developer consensus we can move forward with cutting a release (this is what we decided in chat just now). E-mail the list if problems or get online so we can hammer it out ASAP, for tonight is the night! Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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0.37 Release objectives met
by Bryce Harrington 10 Feb '04

10 Feb '04

The task and bugcount objectives for the 0.37 release have now been met, so we are ready to tag the stable branch and begin the release process this evening. At this time, you can help by running the app and banging on it to see if any of the recent bug fixes have introduced new problems that will need fixing prior to the release. Hopefully there's nothing. We have reduced the critical bug count to 3, and thus met our objective. Two are difficult to do and will take significant time to do properly, and the third is in regards to the nightly builds posted to the website so is completely orthogonal to the application itself. Once the release tarball is posted this evening, we will allocate 2-3 days for folks to create and test packages for this release, and then will put out announcements to as many places as will listen. :-) Bryce

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Status Update for Inkscape release work
by Bryce Harrington 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Here are the remaining code cleanup tasks: ** Review #if 0 code in sp-gradient.cpp, sp-root.cpp [tvon] ** Review #if 0 code in *-chemistry.cpp and seltrans.cpp [pjrm] ** (DONE) Review #if 0 code in svg/ [bryce] ** (DONE) Review #if 0 code in display/ [mental] ** (DONE) Review #if 0 code in helper/ [mental] ** (DONE) Review #if 0 code in xml/ [mental] I've mailed out a detailed post about releasing packages, and updated the CreatingDists Wiki page. We are down to 7 critical bugs that will need to be addressed prior to our final release: 891852 saves to old location after save-as [ted] 850971 (DONE) Crash while deleting namedview in XML editor [bryce] 852976 win32: mouse becoming unresponsive 864791 XML editor: crash when canceling quit [mental] 863373 ./configure not present in nightly tarball snapshot 863371 (DONE) --gnome-print option [jceuppen] 881397 too big objects crash 887428 R&B channels reversed on win32 when printing [ishmal] 871582 path display freeze [mental] I think we'd all love to see 100% of these fixed, but I figure if we can at least get 2/3rds of them addressed, then we should go ahead with a release. So if we can close 4 more, we should be there. 887428 is fixed but needs to be verified on Windows. 71582 is probably going to be more work than we can do for this release so we may want to leave it 'til next release. Mental, is there a quick hack that could be done to at least prevent Inkscape from freezing up when zooming out? Could you write up your thoughts on how the code should be rewritten for a proper fix? Bulia, you mentioned you were going to look at 891852 - did you get a chance to trace down what needs to be done? Rejon, any luck with figuring out the configure issue? Bob, have you been able to get into SourceForge to take a look at the bugs? I can forward you the text of them if not. I think there's 2-3 that hopefully will be quick for you to validate and close for us. Mental, I bet that there's probably a quick fix for 864791. If you won't have time for it today, I might have a chance to look at it tonight or tomorrow night. Finally, would someone mind banging on Inkscape a bunch today looking for crashes, or if there are any features that aren't working? Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] "dialogs on top" checkbox
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

>It might be worthwhile to disable the menuitem for Windows builds. Indeed! Please do :) BTW I've just checked the latest win build and it seems to work OK, including my yesterday's save fix. And the tutorial and keys reference look acceptable (although they are affected by bug 857316 on my Russian Windows 98). _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] "dialogs on top" checkbox
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

> > THANKS! So I'm setting the default back to 1. Please add an item to the > > Known Problems in the release notes. > >Will do... I already did this :) Also added about autoraise (still) not working on windows. Guess I'll need to do some windows fixing for the next release. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] "dialogs on top" checkbox
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

>Comitted. Sorry for the delay; I need to eat and sleep sometimes too, >you know ^_- > >Fwiw, don't use this code as an example for anything. It's a very ugly >hack that I did just so we'd have something for the release. THANKS! So I'm setting the default back to 1. Please add an item to the Known Problems in the release notes. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Example SVGs + Samples
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

I added one Windows screen from Vellum and two more showing the keys reference on Linux. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] 0.37rc1
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

OK, the problem is fixed. The new nodepath.cpp is committed. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] 0.37rc1
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Oops. Please hold on releasing. I found a problem in nodepath editing, investigating. >Because I fell asleep I had the unique opportunity to be awake when no >one else was, so there was actually a point where doing repeated 'cvs >update's didn't reveal new code ;) I went ahead and made "release >candidate" which is available here. From reading the backlog, I'm >guessing this isn't final - but I think it's not a bad idea to have. > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=9911… > > --Ted > ><< signature.asc >> _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] 0.37rc1
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

>Because I fell asleep I had the unique opportunity to be awake when no >one else was, so there was actually a point where doing repeated 'cvs >update's didn't reveal new code ;) I went ahead and made "release >candidate" which is available here. From reading the backlog, I'm >guessing this isn't final - but I think it's not a bad idea to have. Great. I don't know if any code changes will be needed, but please don't forget to update the NEWS file from the release notes on Wiki - I updated them today. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Tabs to Spaces
by Bryce Harrington 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

One of the tasks for this release was to decide on a tab vs. spaces strategy. This has been a controversial issue and has been a challenge to achieve concensus on, but it sounds like the group mostly favors changing tabs to spaces. A few people still favor tabs, so unfortunately we don't have a 100% concensus as we'd like, but I think we have a rough enough concensus favoring this that we can consider it decided. Before we do, does anyone have a major problem with replacing all the tabs in the codebase with spaces, that we should resolve beforehand? The main issue raised so far has been providing config files or modelines that cause vi and emacs to use spaces instead of tabs, so that there's no extra work for people to adhere to this as a standard. The next two questions are: Does anyone know a good method to untabify the entire codebase in one shot? Does anyone know how best to put modelines in the codebase to get vi and emacs to behave correctly? Bryce

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0.37rc1
by Ted Gould 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Well, Because I fell asleep I had the unique opportunity to be awake when no one else was, so there was actually a point where doing repeated 'cvs update's didn't reveal new code ;) I went ahead and made "release candidate" which is available here. From reading the backlog, I'm guessing this isn't final - but I think it's not a bad idea to have. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=9911… --Ted

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] back to work
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

>Has anyone had a chance to bang on the app for a while to make sure >there aren't other issues we've overlooked? Actually I've been using it almost daily for the last month. I submitted all problems I find to the tracker (unless I can quickly fix them myself, in which case I do that :) My personal gut feeling is that it's quite stable by now, at least on Linux. I doubt we can discoved any real show-stopper in the last day. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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"dialogs on top" checkbox
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Mental, as discussed yesterday, please add a checkbox for options.transientpolicy={0|1} to the Dialogs menu today, so that we could set it to 1 in preferences-skeleton.h. I will be very disappointed if we ship the release with 0 as the default. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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back to work
by Jonathan Phillips 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

Hey all, I just got back to my normal location at UC-San Diego. It is nice to be back in my 24 work zone. I'm thinking of a few things and decided that I would itemize rather than ramble-ize. 1.) PAYPAL: Do we have some form of paypal donations setup for our project. I would like to look into this. I've even been toying with the idea of getting some form of funding from UCSD to plugin to our project to "encourage" certain features to be implemented. I don't know if the "bounties" concept fits, but is interesting. 2.) NODE USABILITY: I don't know what to call it, but I will call it the extra-functionality "handle" for spirals, stars, circles and squares (rounding) is hard to see against a white background. I think we need to do something about the visibility of this. Maybe either by putting a white border around it, or making it reverse on colors. The normal nodes are hard to see sometimes as well. I think we should change the color of the nodes to be darker, or have a white outline or something to pop-them out against black and other dark colors. Just a thought...if you are all interested in this, then I will add another RFE. 3.) TIMETABLE for the next release? I know we have many many many more tasks to complete for this milestone, but now that we are after the new year, maybe we could have a target date for getting the current milestone complete. How about Sunday, February 1st? Cool... Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Status Update for Inkscape release work
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

> > Now this function uses document->uri which I build in >sp_document_create() > > from the pathname on the command line and the current dir, using > > inkscape_rel2abs (which even does some normalization of things like .. >in > > the middle). It may probably still fail for some exotic cases, but the >basic > > operations that I tested now work OK. I would like to have this tested on Windows. Bob, could you please do a quick check that the latest CVS saves files properly on Windows, before an after a save-as into a different directory? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] tutorial, terms
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

By the way we need one more term for those blue arrows around a selection. Of course we can use "node handles," "shape handles," and "selection handles" but I think this is wordy and may be confusing. >I'm not happy with control and handle. The terminology I feel is most >common is that the tangent specifiers on bezier curves are called 'control >handles'. I would call everything but the 'nodes' 'control handles'. I >don't see any advantage from separating bezier control handles from >rectangle control handles. > >comments? > >njh _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] tutorial, terms
by bulia byak 09 Feb '04

09 Feb '04

>I'm not happy with control and handle. The terminology I feel is most >common is that the tangent specifiers on bezier curves are called 'control >handles'. I would call everything but the 'nodes' 'control handles'. I >don't see any advantage from separating bezier control handles from >rectangle control handles. They are different objects with different behavior. If we don't offer standard terminology, people will be inventing their own to differentiate them. If you don't like controls and handles, please propose another variant. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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