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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Win32 - Bug in Markers?
by bulia byak 26 Jan '04

26 Jan '04

>Can someone check please? > >The line markers are not working with the freehand line or bezier curve >tools. I get the messages 'start_marker' marker is '<nil>', >'mid_marker'...... and 'end_marker'........is nil, as soon as I start. The >end cap choices are working. For me, nothing works at all in today's CVS. When I click any marker button, Inkscape crashes. >This is the first time I have used this so I do not know if it is recent >behaviour. Yes, I think Bryce added it recently. I hope it gets resolved for the release. Are the preferences problems resolved? I recently tested it on Windows 98 and it seems to work OK. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Inkscape on Windows
by Ryan Pavlik 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Hello developers! I am not a member of the list, I just sent this in to alert you of a potential installer problem. I have GTK 2.2.4-2 (from the Gimp web site) installed, which is the official version for Windows. However, when I try to install Inkscape, it quits the installer, asking me to install GTK2. I will continue to try to override this setting in the installer, as the official GTK should work fine... Ryan (any replies please copy to me, since I am off list)

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sodipodi:type namespace
by MenTaLguY 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

I realized one other place where we need to be careful about not polluting sodipodi's namespace -- sodipodi:type. Currently, we only have one "type" of our own, SPOffset, but we can expect to add more. I think the best way to approach this is to prefix any types we introduce ourselves with inkscape: -- e.g. now the sodipodi:type for SPOffset will be "inkscape:offset". I think it's important we get these issues sorted out before the release. As a result, I've changed the sodipodi:type used in HEAD -- if you have existing documents using SPOffsets, you'll need to fix their sodipodi:type from the XML editor. -mental

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backups
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

To fix this: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=866103&group_id=9… I want to back up the old prefs file before writing the new one. Adding an option to backup SVG files when saving would be great, too. There's a library here: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnulib/ that has this functionality and claims to be portable. So what do we do? - include gnulib as a dependency - lift just backupfile.c and copy-file.c from it and include in our codebase - find some other lib - write the backup function ourselves Any comments? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] do we need meters?
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

OK, for now I simply added a check if the units are meters, and if so, coverted them to cm where the value is written to repr. So now it will size the canvas to 3100 by 1700 meters, even though it will not show you all of it. But that's another issue. So I'm closing this bug. Incidentally, just to prevent duplicating effort, is anyone working on any bugs at the moment? The release is near and we must concentrate on bugs for now. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Re: new offset commands
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Actually, the reason for bug 877019 is simple: it's difference is size! The sploth-bad object is just small, and on this scale, the offset algorithm is erratic. When applied to a larger object, it works much better. Can you please have a look at what's wrong with this? > > - It appears that all offsets now use the imprecise > > algorithm (you once > > mentioned that there were two algorithms, one > > precise but slow and the othe > > imprecise but fast). I think we should use the > > precise algorithm for all > > kinds of offsets, dynamic or not. > >the "imprecise" algo is now the more precise one; the >problem whith the old "precise" is that sometimes it >doesn't produce the mathematically correct offset, but >is faster. this can happen when offseting the 'D' >letter with a big radius, for example: a hole appears >in the offset. since speed is an issue, the fast one >is back in place. > > >also the livarot stuff now uses NR::Point (and some >NR::matrix); it may contain some bugs since the >conversion touched a big portion of the code. you can >report any strange behavior in boolean operations and >offset to me. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] do we need meters?
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

>>lists only cm, mm, in, pt, pc. So the question is: why do we have meters >>in the units drop-down lists at all? Isn't it safer to remove them? >> >>Any insights? > >I've used inkscape for doing house plans. Having meters was quite useful >for that. We may end up having a global scale factor for doing map work >(which is something that bryce was interested in). Of course it's useful, but what about SVG conformance? Even if we convert meters to e.g. inches on save, how will Inkscape know that they should be translated back to meters when loaded? Looks like we need inkscape: attributes in <svg> for scale factor and preferred length units. That will require changes in a lot of places I think. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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undo crash
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Mental, could you please review my change to xml/repr-action.cpp in line 230, instead of if (strcmp(action->act.chgattr.oldval, iter->act.chgattr.newval)) break; I added extra checks if (action->act.chgattr.oldval && iter->act.chgattr.newval && strcmp(action->act.chgattr.oldval, iter->act.chgattr.newval)) break; Without this, it was crashing when you draw a rect and press and hold [ to rotate it, after several rotations. This crash appeared after I changed document_undo to maybe_undo with a key, so there's probably some deeper problem with your coalescing code that was not caught until now (because almost nobody used maybe_undo until now). So if you can discover what's really going wrong and fix it instead that would be great. By the way I fixed the nasty "fly away" bug on rotation reported by Robert Crosbie and myself. Although I don't quite understand how that fix works :) See changelog. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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do we need meters?
by bulia byak 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

With this kind of silence in this list, I wonder if we really need a separate users list... Anyway, when researching https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=851007&group_id=9… I found that the SVG units reader simply does not understand meters as a unit. And this seems to be correct according to the spec. Here: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/coords.html#Units it says that SVG uses "absolute unit identifiers from CSS", and CSS grammar: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/grammar.html#q1 lists only cm, mm, in, pt, pc. So the question is: why do we have meters in the units drop-down lists at all? Isn't it safer to remove them? Any insights? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Proposal: "inkscape-user@" mailing list
by bulia byak 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

>If this sounds good, I'll set it up, and we can push membership in it >as part of the 0.37 announce. Good idea I think. Please don't forget to mention it in the release notes. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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HELP SYSTEM: scrollkeeper + yelp
by Jonathan Phillips 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

In regards to implementing a cross-platform help system, we can use docbook in conjunction with scrollkeeper/yelp on Linux and OS X, and then convert to Microsoft HTML Help from docbook for win32 based systems. Check out the docbook formats: http://docbook.org/wiki/moin.cgi/formats More about docbook: http://docbook.sourceforge.net/ Any other findings? Jon -- Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...>

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] RE: keyboard shortcuts + man page
by bulia byak 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

>For Windows, you need to consider converting the files >to Windows help files. That is all, as the OS has its >own viewer. Which is why I wonder if we'd be better off with HTML files. There's a browser on any system, and no conversions are necessary. Actually some Windows programs use HTML too, instead of Windows help. The only issue is determining the default browser. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: keyboard shortcuts + man page
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>From: Jonathan Phillips <jon@...15...> >I have not done much looking into adding the keyboard shortcuts and man >page to the help menu for the next release. I really want to do this >task, but could you use any help pointing me how to do this. > >I wonder what the best way to accomplish this task would be? I guess we >could add a link to the keyboard shortcuts page to the webpage where the >shortcut keys are located, or we could set up a file where the keyboard >keys are located in the source and you could edit that file so that on >CVS build, all keys are updated accordingly. I think Inkscape should ship with its own copy of help files in HTML, corresponding to the release. I think I will move the shortcuts from Wiki to XML and set up generating HTML in makefile. So, you can assume that the distribution includes an HTML file; your task is to run browser on it. As to the best way to run browser, I'm not sure. I doubt there is a cross-platform reliable way to detect the default browser and run it, but I may be wrong - anyone? If we cannot access default browser, perhaps we should store a browser executable path in preferences. But that's ugly. >Another idea is to start to use YELP from GNOME world. Never seen it. Anyone has an opinion on Yelp? >Another thing, did you realize that Inkscape can open files from URLs. I >opened a few svg examples from croczilla.com/svg/ from the commandline. Sounds like this could be added to Tips-and-tricks page. >I think we should add an open file from url menu item. Why not, try to do it - it should not be difficult. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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NR::Point data
by MenTaLguY 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

Just a quick note that NR::Point's 'pt' data member is now private; use its operator[]() instead. (since NR::Point::operator[] returns a reference, it can be used as an lvalue, thusly: somepoint[NR::X] = somevalue; ) -mental

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] more [] <> fun
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

>Hold down on one of the rotate keys with the XML editor open (watching the >object coordinates) and the object will quickly fly off the screen with >large compounded errors in the cordinates. Indeed. This may be related to https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=879249&group_id=9… It may be that XML editor slows dows something enough for this effect to become worse, but it looks like the same problem can be observed without the XML editor open. I'm almost sure that my code is not the culprit; probably it just makes some deeper problem more obvious. With mouse, nobody could make so many transformations so quickly, and so this problem remained unnoticed. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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news: page options, dialogs
by bulia byak 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

I ported the support for page background color and border color from sodipodi. It uses sodipodi:namedview for storing them, so I also moved the recently added page shadow option from preferences to namedview for consistency. This means it may be different in different documents and is saved with the document, as is the page size, background color, etc. To set all these options for newly created documents, edit the sodipodi:namedview template in your ~/.inkscape/preferences.xml. I also ported the color selectors for the page and border colors; they are now on the Page tab of the Document Options dialog. And while at it, I finally moved the former "document settings" dialog stuff here and removed that dialog. No more confusion: now we have one Document Options dialog (Ctrl+Shift+D) which sets everything that will be saved with the document (as opposed to Inkscape Options which is supposed to set options independent of documents). Now the Dialogs menu contains just two "stray" dialogs that are planned for elimination, and is generally much less confusing than before. Of course the dialogs need a lot of work still, but that could wait until Gtkmm. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] zooming by wheel
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

>Please use keybindings consistantly. Please use Ctrl+Wheel for Zooming >instead of Shift+Wheel. I was not proposing shift-wheel to zoom; it was coded already, I just changed the centering behavior. We have this item in the roadmap: * Decide on mouse scrollwheel modifiers [everyone, see mailing list archives] So, once you raised the issue, could you please review the current wheel behaviors: # Mouse wheel scroll canvas vertically # Ctrl + Mouse wheel scroll canvas horizontally # Shift + Mouse wheel zoom in or out and propose a change to conform to HIG, but without losing any of the three functions. After you publish your proposal here, if no one objects, I will code it. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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zooming by wheel
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

I used cursor coordinates (instead of window center) when zooming in/out by scrollwheel with Shift. So you can position mouse over any object and zoom into it without moving mouse. But I can't test it as I don't have a wheel mouse. Could anyone with a wheel mouse please test it? _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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more [] <> fun
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

Today my daughter enjoyed Inkscape thus: draw a freehand line, click the node tool, select all nodes, and press-and-hold <, >, [, ] randomly. Lots of fun from the "dancing zuka." ("Zuka" means approximately "an unidentifiable funny shape".) The new shortcuts listed below more or less close my list of planned new features for the release. From now on I'm focusing on bugs and urge everyone to do the same. There's one problem I discovered in X keyboard handling: pressing both Alts with some other keys results in Alt being stuck, and you'll have to press single Alt plus something to unstick it. I don't know if this is a bug in X (it works this way everywhere, so it's certainly not an Inkscape problem) or some sort of feature that I don't know how to turn off. Any ideas? Node tool shortcuts (F2, n) * [, ] rotate both control handles around the node by the global rotate step (default 15 degrees) * Left Ctrl+[, Left Ctrl+], Right Ctrl+[, Right Ctrl+] rotate one of the controls by the global rotate step * Left Alt+[, Left Alt+], Right Alt+[, Right Alt+] rotate one of the handles by the angle corresponding to 1 pixel (actual angle depends on zoom) * Left Alt+Right Alt+[, Left Alt+Right Alt+] rotate both controls by the angle corresponding to 1 pixel * <, > make both control handles shorter or longer by the scale step (default 2 pt) * Left Ctrl+<, Left Ctrl+>, Right Ctrl+<, Right Ctrl+> make one of the control handles shorter or longer by the scale step (default 2 pt) * Left Alt+<, Left Alt+>, Right Alt+<, Right Alt+> make one of the control handles shorter or longer by 1 pixel (actual distance depends on zoom) * Left Alt+Right Alt+<, Left Alt+Right Alt+> make both control handles shorter or longer by 1 pixel Note: Instead of the < and > keys, you can use the , (comma) and . (period) keys respectively _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] website broken - what's going on?
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

Hmm, now it works again. >From: "bulia byak" <archiver_1@...19...> >To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: [Inkscape-devel] website broken - what's going on? >Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 17:55:50 +0000 > >You have probably reached this page in error. > >If you were attempting to reach a site that's domain ends in >.sourceforge.net, it is likely that your browser is not HTTP/1.1 compliant. >This may be because you're running a very old version of MSIE or Netscape. > >Please upgrade your browser and try again. > >_________________________________________________________________ >STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms… > > > >------------------------------------------------------- >The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 >Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration >See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. >http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn >_______________________________________________ >Inkscape-devel mailing list >Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoi…

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website broken - what's going on?
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

You have probably reached this page in error. If you were attempting to reach a site that's domain ends in .sourceforge.net, it is likely that your browser is not HTTP/1.1 compliant. This may be because you're running a very old version of MSIE or Netscape. Please upgrade your browser and try again. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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[ 880559 ] Loading place text in wrong place
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

The bug is not in wrong display; actually Inkscape displays your file correctly and Sodipodi does not. The bug was in adding extra newlines when the file was saved. This bug is fixed in CVS. However, to fix your existing file, you'll have to manually remove any wrong whitespace between <tspan> elements within <text> elements. E.g. instead of <text> <tspan>English</tspan> </text> you should have <text><tspan>English</tspan></text> Or, you can load your file into Inkscape CVS, manually remove the extra newlines and save the file. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/photos&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjo…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] new rotate/scale shortcuts
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

>I get a crash if you scale a shape too big with the modifier keys. > >[kidproto@...174... .inkscape]$ inkscape >inkscape: nr-svp-uncross.cpp:747: NRSVLSlice* >nr_svl_slice_stretch_list(NRSVLSlice*, double): Assertion `v->next' >failed. >,Aborted I think you'd get it regardless of the method of scaling. Actually that's a general problem - I remember seeing the same error several times, which indicates that NR simply does not guard against too big values. Please file a bug, and hopefully our numeric experts will have a look at it one day... _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] page shadow
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

>>Personally I find 1 or 2 annoyingly small. To me, it's either 0 or 5. > >What about percentage of the full screen? Don't think it's a good idea. The shadow must be easily recognizable so as to easily differentiate it from objects. A physically constant size is important for that recognizability. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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new rotate/scale shortcuts
by bulia byak 20 Jan '04

20 Jan '04

* [, ] rotate selected object(s) by the angle step (default 15 degrees) * Ctrl+[, Ctrl+] rotate selected object(s) by 90 degrees * Alt+[, Alt+] rotate selected object(s) by the angle corresponding to 1 pixel (actual angle depends on zoom) * <, > scale selected object(s) around center by the scale step (default 2 pt) * Ctrl+<, Ctrl+> scale selected object(s) to 50% or 200% respectively * Alt+[, Alt+] scale selected object(s) by 1 pixel (actual size increment depends on zoom) Note: Instead of the < and > keys, you can use the , (comma) and . (period) keys respectively _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/features&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin…

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