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Status
by Bryce Harrington 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

Below are the tasks for our current milestone. For those 20 or so of you just joining us, we're going to try to organize efforts into near-term sets of goals, that we can reasonably achieve every week or so. What we mainly need right now is to get the codebase to pass a 'make distcheck'. In addition to being able to identify any remaining things needing finished for the C++-ification and renaming, we had noticed when working on Sodipodi-hydra that distcheck wasn't passing. If anyone's interested in helping on this, it's straightforward: Get the code from CVS, compile it (with either CC=gcc or CC=g++), run `make distcheck`, and report on what needs to be done to get it to pass. Once it passes distcheck we will cut release 0.35 and create tarballs and rpms. Bryce === Milestone 1 === Inkscape Production * (DONE) Get inkscape to build with a C++ compiler [team] * (DONE) Fix CDATA issue [mental] * Get codebase to successfully complete `make distcheck` * Cut a release of Inkscape 0.35 * Upload release tarball of Inkscape 0.35 to Inkscape SF file manager Inkscape Experimental * Build a new grid options dialog using gtkmm [njh] Inkscape Website * Create logo for Inkscape [mental] * Create look and feel graphical design prototype for website [mental] * Create 3+ screenshots of Inkscape Production * (DONE) Flesh out website more fully [bryce]

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SInce your forking might as well get rid of csdi
by David Adam Bordoley 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

One nice interface improvement you could make for inkspace would be to crap the csdi interface in favor of a sdi interface in which toolboxes and pallettes are shared in between windows. There is a gnome HIG bug in which both seth and greg merchan have agreed that csdi should be removed from the HIG http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116599. Just a suggestion. dave

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0.36
by bulia byak 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

1. My current status: working on the remaining keys I wanted to enable for 0.36 (esc in the node editor, etc.) 2. Dialog code is finished, but: 2a. Recent reports and testing them under windows show that the transiency code is not perfect. Maybe we'll have to switch "unsinkable dialogs" off on Windows because it behaves erratic there when you try to minimize a document window (maybe this is GTK+ issue). I lean towards accepting the current unsinkable dialogs as temporary solution for the 0.36 release (but not for windows build), but after that I want to explore other options such as GIMP's dockable palettes. Dockability is a good thing in any case, and writing it from scratch is too much work; maybe they will take care of staying on top as well. 2b. The rest of dialog improvements seem to work OK (keys, titles, remembering position) although nobody yet commented. I think I'll go on and copy the code to all dialogs. 2c. I still want someone to test one small change in the transient behavior though. It's simple: Please compile the latest CVS/tarball, open two document windows, maximize both, and switch between them. Does toolbox stay on top? Please report also your window manager. Thanks! 3. Thanks to Robert Crosbie for fixing the save crash, but I think the remaining problems he reported are critical and must be fixed before 0.36: > - autodetect fails if no extension is added to filename (.svg) > - on quit, still says I have unsaved changes, even though I saved > - can't open compressed svg unless it has .svgz extension. especially the second one. Please add them to the tracker and/or roadmap. 4. When a consensus is reached on which keys to use for moving to front/back, please add this to the KeyboardShortcuts TODO and I'll implement that. My opinion: f/b with ctrl or shift are clumsy (although this is what Xara uses), and please don't use [] because I plan to use them for rotation (this is consistent with gqview and I think other image viewers). Maybe Home/End with ctrl will work for moving one layer up/down? They appear intuitive for this task. 5. I have no opinion on the mouse scroll modifiers (I have no mouse wheel), but again, when you agree on something please add that to KeyboardShortcuts. 6. I also plan to finish my HandlingPreferences tutorial and comment on some other new pages on Wiki when I have a little time. 7. I noticed I forgot to update Changelog with my changes all this time - sorry! I've prepared a list of everything I've done and will add it now. --bb -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] transformation innaccuracies
by Bryce Harrington 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

Hi Robert, Could you submit this as a bug report? Thanks, Bryce ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:28:21 -0500 From: Robert Crosbie <swingincelt@...19...> To: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Inkscape-devel] transformation innaccuracies I noticed the transformations applied to objects is quite inaccurate: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="100.000000" y="100.000000" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Opening the transformations dialog and applying 10 horizontal gives this: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="112.500000" y="99.9999695" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Also, If I take that original square and rotate it 10, I get this: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="62.2319183" y="131.691177" transform="matrix(0.984808,-0.173648,0.173648,0.984808,0.000000,0.000000)" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Why have my x and y changed? Shouldn't the matrix handle all aspects of the transformation and leave x and y as they were? Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel

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mouse wheel
by Yemu 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

i've just updated my copy of inkscape and i have one suggestion concerning mouse wheel support. inkscape now uses wheel to move vertically, ctrl+wheel to move horizontally and shift+wheel to zoom in/out. in other applications (mozilla, opera, abiword, openoffice, corel draw) ctrl+wheel zooms (i know, i know in gimp shift+wheel zooms :-). so maybe it would be possible to have ctrl+wheel zoom? or both ctlr+wheel or shift+whell zoom, and for example alt +wheel move horizontally. one more think i noticed is a fact that when scrolling, some black horizontal stripes blink during refreshing of a document. this doesn't happen when zooming. best regards yemu

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Re: [Inkscape-cvs] inkscape
by Bryce Harrington 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

Thanks Bulia! On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, bulia byak wrote: > Update of /cvsroot/inkscape/inkscape > In directory sc8-pr-cvs1:/tmp/cvs-serv21746 > > Modified Files: > ChangeLog > Log Message: > list of changes I did not log in the last couple weeks > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. > Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it > help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help > YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-cvs mailing list > Inkscape-cvs(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-cvs >

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svg icons
by Robert Crosbie 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

Just to confirm. Our preference is to try and load our icons from svg first and then default to xpm? I seem to remember reading something contrary to that in a code comment, not sure where now. Currently, I'm only looking at the xpm images when adding to the IconFactory, but I was planning on fixing that tonight. Rgrds, Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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cvs update
by Mael 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

Hello, when I browse cvs (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/inkscape/inkscape/src/) everything is at least 5 days old, why can't I see the last changes ? I'm trying to update my local cvs to try Robert Crosbie changes concerning icons but can't get recent files (CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous@...54...:/cvsroot/inkscape). What am I doing wrong ? M

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cvs snapshots
by Kees Cook 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

While the original "download" webpage was fairly empty, the addition of the cvs-snap/ directory might make it more meaningful. At present, there isn't really any other good place to put a link to the nightly tarballs. What do the web folks think about putting download.php back into service looking something like: Sourceforge Releases -------------------- http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438 Nightly CVS Tarballs -------------------- Current: http://www.inkscape.org/cvs-snap/inkscape-current.tar.bz2 Historical: http://www.inkscape.org/cvs-snap/ -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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[Fwd: Cron <gouldtj@...75...> /home/users/g/go/gouldtj/update.tarball.sh]
by Ted Gould 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

Can someone do a 'chmod g+w /home/groups/i/in/inkscape/htdocs/cvs-snap' for me? --Ted -----Forwarded Message----- > From: Cron Daemon <root@...74...> > To: gouldtj@...58... > Subject: Cron <gouldtj@...75...> /home/users/g/go/gouldtj/update.tarball.sh > Date: 20 Nov 2003 04:45:17 -0800 > > mv: cannot create regular file `/home/groups/i/in/inkscape/htdocs/cvs-snap/inkscape-20031119.tar.bz2': Permission denied >

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transformation innaccuracies
by Robert Crosbie 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

I noticed the transformations applied to objects is quite inaccurate: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="100.000000" y="100.000000" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Opening the transformations dialog and applying 10 horizontal gives this: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="112.500000" y="99.9999695" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Also, If I take that original square and rotate it 10, I get this: <rect width="200.000000" height="200.000000" x="62.2319183" y="131.691177" transform="matrix(0.984808,-0.173648,0.173648,0.984808,0.000000,0.000000)" style="font-size:12;fill:#808080;fill-rule:evenodd;stroke-width:1pt;" id="rect562" /> Why have my x and y changed? Shouldn't the matrix handle all aspects of the transformation and leave x and y as they were? Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Website broken links and stylesheets
by Alan Horkan 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

http://www.inkscape.org/ "November 13, 2003 - Tvon is working on the look and feel for the website. A version without CSS <URL:http://home.etria.org/nocss.html> is also available, as well as the original mockup. " The link i've inlined in the text above does not work, I would suggest putting an editorial note [Broken] to indicate the link is no longer available. As the web page designer is willing to provide a no CSS version it would be great if (s)he could specify a title for the style sheet and specify default/alternative so that users of Mozilla and Opera can easily turn off the stylesheet by choosing View -> Use Style. (I've just learnt CSS recently, dont ask me any difficult questions please :) In future would you prefer if I posted a bug report instead of emailing the list? (or is there a web maintainer I should mail directly, the is none indicated in the usual place, at the bottom of the page). Sincerely Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ (this was another mail left languishing in my drafts folder all week, the webpage has switched over to the new design since then and it is sweet)

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menu layout - small suggestion
by Yemu 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

i've just tried BORKEN branch and i like it a lot. i have a small idea though: i think that first menu item called "Inkscape" now, should be renamed to "About" and moved to the right end of the menu bar. cause in most applications "File" is always the first menu item, and this is what users are used to (me too :-) thanks to all developers for great improvements! when do you plan 0.36? best regards yemu

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[ 845018 ] save crash
by Robert Crosbie 20 Nov '03

20 Nov '03

Here's a patch to fix the save crash bug. It appears the wrong variable was being passed when the type was autodetect. There are still a few problems with saving/opening files, but at least it doesn't crash. - autodetect fails if no extension is added to filename (.svg) - on quit, still says I have unsaved changes, even though I saved - can't open compressed svg unless it has .svgz extension. cvs won't let me commit and gives me this error: cvs server: sticky tag `1.4' for file `system.c' is not a branch cvs [server aborted]: correct above errors first! Index: src/modules/system.c =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/inkscape/inkscape/src/modules/system.c,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -r1.2 system.c 172c172 < sp_module_db_foreach(save_internal, (gpointer)&omod); --- > sp_module_db_foreach(save_internal, (gpointer)&parray); Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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Re: the GUI changes on the BORKEN tag
by Bob Jamison 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

I checked it out, built it (with no problems), and gave it a try. I really like it a lot. The original layout might be familiar to users who also use the Gimp, but I think this would be more amenable to desktop artists. IMHO, if this breaks nothing, it would be well to mainline this branch. Good job. Bob

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cvs snapshots
by Kees Cook 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

I've created a /cvs-snap directory off the main website. There is an update.sh script (that needs execute bits...) in inkscape_project/tarball/update.sh. Can this get added to the crontab after the doxygen run? And if people like the results, let's add it to the website somewhere under "downloads". -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Re : New SDI Interface
by Cédric GEMY 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

Wow, I don't really know how it works at this time. But this is a good reason to make some reserch. I'll keep you informed if I find something interesting. May be you'll question that can help in a larger view of the subject. Cedric

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alternate jabber room
by Kees Cook 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

Since jabber.org's server was having issues over the weekend, I had a friend of mine that runs a jabber server set up a room for us: room: inkscape server: conference.gristle.org Let me know if this works for everyone... -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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save crash
by bulia byak 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

Today's CVS crashes when sttempting to save file. I tracked it down to sp_module_db_foreach(save_internal, (gpointer)&omod); in modules/system.c. Anyone can have a look? -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/

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New SDI Interface
by Cédric GEMY 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

-- I like it wel and it is much butter than previous. May be I should have stored Groups/Combine & Superposition Menus in an "Object" Menu. It's the case in Adobe Illustrator and I find it successful and logical. For Zoom is just a screen effect for displaying object, it's a good thing to have a specific menu for zoom factors directly in document window. May be it would possible to delete the Zoom group in the toolbox. At the end, just a question about Inkscpae Language. Is there anybody working on a french trnaslations of the menus and dialogs. If no can I take this in charge ? Default Gnome po are not always very good for such specific applications. Cédric

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docked toolboxes
by MenTaLguY 19 Nov '03

19 Nov '03

Out of curiousity, how many of you folks out there currently use docked toolboxes? (i.e. extra toolboxes embedded in the document window) I'm seriously considering killing the feature to free up UI space. We still have the floating toolbox, and that's the way most drawing apps do it. The recent transient work also diminishes the advantage of having a toolbox in the window -- the detached toolbox now stays raised with the document window too. -mental

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] win32 test build + exit on closing last document
by Yemu 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

M> 1- Install gtk runtime from http://www.dropline.net/gtk/download.php M> 2- Download http://195.221.122.126/tmp/inkscape-0.36cvs-w32.exe [1.22 Mo], M> extract, and change the path to your gtk libs in inkscape.bat M> 3- Run inkscape.bat thanks! it basically works, but i noticed some things on my w2k system: transient windows doesn't work :-( they all stay on the desktop when i minimize my document - they are also listem on the taskbar - it shouldn't be like that i think? (i can't can't compare because i can't update my linux version - cvs from sourceforge is a little old) only "fill and stroke", "document settings" and "align" stay on top (and toolbar of course) only "fill and stroke" remembers its position thanks again from all the dual-boot users out there i think :-) and thanks for bulia for great dialogs. one more thing: i'm not sure if exiting inkscape on closing last document is a good behaviour. it prevents user from doing such simple thing like closing the document and opening another one (if there's no other document open inkscape will exit). i don't like it. maybe the idea would be to show some special dialog when user closes last document. the options on such dialog might be "Cancel", "Save & Exit", "Exit Without Saving", "Open Existing Document" and "Create New Document". what do you think about that? inkscape is great! best regards yemu

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please retest transiency
by bulia byak 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

I will be grateful to whoever can test latest CVS with a view to transient dialogs. In particular, when two or more documents are open, do the toolbox and fill/stroke stay on top when you switch between document windows? Especially if the document windows are maximized? Thanks! -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/

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Re: translations
by Cédric GEMY 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

-- Ok, I'll try to do something with that po french-file. Just wait fews days. Cheers Cédric

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win32 test build
by Mael 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

Hello, I tried to build what is currently in anonymous cvs. Here are (new) problems I faced in building inkscape with MinGW (and gcc not tried g++) * modules/ps.c `SIGPIPE' undeclared -> I commented the call to signal , don't know what it does and how to fix it * toolbox.c toolbox.c: In function `sp_toolbox_file_create': toolbox.c:342: `action' undeclared (first use in this function) -> Someone has removed the declaration SPAction *action; * modules/extension.c undefined reference to `mkstemp' -> see http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/glib/glib-File-Utilities.html#g-mkst… ? * Libxml2 I had to use version 2.4 of dll because 2.6 results in a crash. Anyone has tried to link against 2.6 on linux ? To try it : 1- Install gtk runtime from http://www.dropline.net/gtk/download.php 2- Download http://195.221.122.126/tmp/inkscape-0.36cvs-w32.exe [1.22 Mo], extract, and change the path to your gtk libs in inkscape.bat 3- Run inkscape.bat Almost not tested but it seems that the problem when regional decimal symbol = comma (instead of dot) is back (don't know if it's due to my build or what) :( I've not included translations in the archive. M

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