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Save and User Manual
by Roger Sharp 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

As a Tech Writer, UX tester, and newbie Inkscape user: Regarding Bit Barrel’s comments, I agree about not having both ‘Save As’ and ‘Export.’ Confusing. Photoshop uses Export for saving pieces of the art such as paths. Also, the User Manual (or Guide?) looks very good BUT it is not searchable. It would be easy to take the current pages (.html or .xml) and import/convert them into a navigable, searchable compiled Help file (whether Web Help or compile .chm file). And, even though I’ve set preferences to Remember Last Window Geometry, it doesn’t remember the dialog layout, i.e., Layers Dialog, the Undo Dialog, etc. ( Version 0.48). Sharpart

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Oh dear, the import export discussion ;-)
by Jelle Mulder 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

Hi all, I think Gez posted the most compelling reason to get rid of pdf and the like in the save as dialog. Inkscape will happily destroy the multipage document with prepress ready infromation with its own export file. If all you do with it is edit an image that doesn't need to go to print that's fine, but I guess those that are accustomed to using Adobe software with its extended pdf files that enable editing it with retaining all the extra stuff Adobe puts into to it to enable a prepress work flow in their own format will have been swearing at the current method. I saw multipage support on the todo list. Would be a nice start for better pdf support. CMYK is another one of the desires related to that. But even then I would really suggest making SAVE only save to Inkscape native and get the rest where it belongs in the export formats with their limited support. I haven't worked in print for quite some time now, but used to dabble around with postscript fill rasters quite a lot to get different effects on similar ink percentages. When using 2 colour print and a varnish, you could create really nice effects with that. None of such information would be maintained in an Inkscape PS export either. They are lossy export filters. Hence they should be in the export menu. The work flow in Inkscape is not ideal when you destroy half the info with a program that seems to claim to save all those file types as if it where native. Whether you put opening a file in the import or open dialog doesn't matter all that much as long as it is clear that the output file is an export or information gets lost by saving it as InkSVG. While following the discussion on SVG2 it became clear that the focus there is web content and for that Inkscape pretty much does everything you'd desire. However, as it turns out Inkscape is a really good and useful vector editor that has found its way into the prepress world and others despite its shortcomings in those fields, I would really like to see a work flow philosophy that reflects those shortcomings for the casual and first time users to prevent them from totally screwing up their work. Otherwise they will be disappointed. I guess that is what drove the Gimp to separate it as well. No Johan,.. it's not okay. Its like boiled and poached eggs. Similar results but different using the same tools and ingredients. But the end result differs through the method. Jelle

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Hackfest 2015 - Topics
by Tavmjong Bah 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Hi, So far we have eight people signed up for the Toronto hackfest. We still have room for more! Our fund raising campaign is doing well. Sponsorship is available for active developers and other Inkscape community members, see: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015_Attendees I've prepared a "Topics" wiki page to keep track of things that we should discuss and/or work on at the hackfest. Please add your ideas... even if you are not able to attend. The topics page is at: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015_Topics Tav

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Using Inkscape for D3.js managed scene (Was: Donating through Gratipay)
by anatoly techtonik 14 Apr '15

14 Apr '15

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 2:45 AM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote: > > [Off Topic - I'll be interested to look up D3.js, to perhaps add it to the > new page I'm making for the Inkscape website, about animation and Inkscape > (first draft and still under development: > http://staging.inkscape.org/en/learn/animation-and-inkscape). :-) ] > For the page from the website of graphics tool it looks overburdened with text. =) As for D3.js I am going to try this tutorial. Looks real from here. http://christopheviau.com/d3_tutorial/d3_inkscape/ -- anatoly t.

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donations, Flattr ?
by Brynn 08 Apr '15

08 Apr '15

Hi Friends, A recent message from a happy Inkscape user on IF (http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18639) wonders if Inkscape should have a Flattr account? Although this is the first I've heard of Flattr, and I'm not sure if Inkscape's license, mission, etc. will permit; I'm curious myself. I thought it would be worth asking about :-) Should or could Inkscape use this kind of fundraising? (Flattr: https://flattr.com/) Thanks, brynn

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Making Inkscape faster by avoiding excessive updates
by Krzysztof Kosiński 07 Apr '15

07 Apr '15

Hello List Whenever something is changed in the document, Inkscape does the following: 1. Store the change in the DOM tree (aka SP tree). 2. Write the change to the XML, also storing undo data. 3. In response to this XML change, update / recompute the values in the DOM tree. This means that when a path is changed in the node editor, the following happens: 1. Geom::PathVector is constructed from the UI nodes. 2. A path string is constructed. 3. Path string is written to XML. 4. XML observer catches the XML write event. 5. Path string which was just written is parsed, and Geom::PathVector is created. I guess you can see where this is inefficient. Note however that due to the fact we support "output precision" (i.e. by default the values written into the file have at most 8 digits after the decimal point, so we lose any precision above that), the PathVector created in step 5 is different than the vector created in step 1. One way to improve Inkscape's performance is to avoid the readback step after every change. In many cases, it leads to large portions of the DOM tree being unnecessarily recomputed. However, not doing readback is rather dangerous - if what we write does not actually parse back to what we have, we end up with data corruption - we are displaying a document that does not match the one that we would display when reopening the file. Therefore, the way to go would be to have the development version always do readback, while the release version would just assume it wrote the correct data. In the case of paths and other coordinate values, I think we should always store them with full double precision, taking advantage of the double-conversion library (I incorporated it into in 2Geom), and only allow reducing the precision in a separate output filter. What do you think? Best regards, Krzysztof

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[Fwd: Website Feedback]
by Martin Owens 05 Apr '15

05 Apr '15

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Roadmap planning to 1.0
by Bryce Harrington 03 Apr '15

03 Apr '15

Several months ago we brainstormed ideas for the roadmap. Everything people suggested should now be collected here, categorized but not prioritized or ordered: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Roadmap One thing we seem to be in consensus about is to get releases out more swiftly. To do this, I think what we should do is a) minimize the number of objectives for each release, and b) stagger the types of objectives in each release, so we rotate what team is in the spotlight each release. With that in mind, what do you guys think about organizing our next few releases with the following focii? Inkscape 0.92 ~ Infrastructure Focus Inkscape 0.93 ~ Maintenance Focus Inkscape 0.94 ~ Feature Focus Inkscape 0.95 ~ Stability Focus Inkscape 1.0 ~ Documentation Focus I anticipate we'd pick a couple objectives for each release that are appropriate to the focus area, plus a smaller, secondary objective unrelated to the focus. For 0.92, I'm thinking we've enough in the hopper that we should expedite it. What do you guys think? Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Website
by Martin Owens 31 Mar '15

31 Mar '15

On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 12:27 +0000, Hinerangi Courtenay wrote: > Martin, any news from Mathew? I was so caught up in my work I lost > touch a bit with everyone working on the site...sorry about that! Dear Hinerangi, > No more words as of yet. The spring time is always very busy for everyone :-) but I hope if we're still all here as the year goes on, we'll be able to spend a bit of time each on the website items. Best Regards, Martin Owens

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Website
by Ian Caldwell 30 Mar '15

30 Mar '15

any update Courtenay? any drafts? I look forward to seeing what you've come up with. Thanks, Ian On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Hinerangi Courtenay < hine.courtenay@...36...> wrote: > Hello, > > Not yet - I was away for a bit, but have been in contact with the web team > by email, and am back home with the local environment up and running > (finally). So things will start evolving soon :-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 13 janv. 2015, at 23:40, Ian Caldwell <inchosting@...400...> wrote: > > Courtenay, > any updates on the mockups? > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote: > >> while on the other hand they >> > disrespect a professional's time, duplicating work and not using design >> > feedback and critique to work towards the best solution. >> >> I don't understand what you mean? Oh you mean, as opposed to paying >> someone >> for graphics? >> >> If a competition is the wrong or inappropriate or just not the best >> approach, it seems like there still should be a way to use the work of >> Inkscape artists for the website. >> >> Thanks :-) >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Martin Owens" <doctormo@...400...> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 4:41 AM >> To: "Brynn" <brynn@...3133...> >> Cc: "Gez" <listas@...3059...>; "Hinerangi Courtenay" >> <nospamunicornus-mailinglist@...36...>; >> <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] Website >> >> > On Mon, 2014-12-29 at 23:06 -0700, Brynn wrote: >> >> Maybe could even have some kind of competition >> >> for the website graphics? >> > >> > Competitions are a difficult problem. In one sense they open the doors >> > to new artists who lack confidence, while on the other hand they >> > disrespect a professional's time, duplicating work and not using design >> > feedback and critique to work towards the best solution. >> > >> > With great care should we do such a thing :-) >> > >> > Martin, >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Dive into the World of Parallel Programming! The Go Parallel Website, >> sponsored by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is >> your >> hub for all things parallel software development, from weekly thought >> leadership blogs to news, videos, case studies, tutorials and more. Take a >> look and join the conversation now. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-devel mailing list >> Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >> > >

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Website: About SVG page is up
by Maren Hachmann 29 Mar '15

29 Mar '15

Hi, this is just to let you know that our new About SVG (https://inkscape.org/en/develop/about-svg/) page is up now. Thanks again for the feedback! And if there's someone who can help with the The next Release page (https://inkscape.org/en/develop/next-release/) contents (major features, bug fixes), that would be great ;) Regards, Maren

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Example of Inkscape handling corrupt input file?
by mathog 26 Mar '15

26 Mar '15

Can somebody please point me to an example in Inkscape where code which is importing from some other format handles an exception and notifies the user? Ideally this would automagically work with both GUI interactive sessions (where it would open a pop up dialog and send a message to stderr) and command line processing (just the message to stderr). There are three cases which need to be handled: 1. One or more records were corrupt and were ignored. 2. Unsupported record types were seen and were ignored. 3. Input failed completely because the file was missing mandatory records. and in terms of notification, presumably they would all use the same mechanism. However, in the 3rd case, when a file import gives up how should it return "nothing" to the program? For the EMF/WMF imports, since they are creating an SVG and passing that back anyway, it could do something cheesy like creating a drawing with a text box saying: The import of file xyz failed but then the end user has to delete this window, in addition to dismissing the pop up warning box. Would Inkscape just ignore it if the returned SVG was an empty string, or would that trigger yet another set of warnings? Thanks, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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Document scale
by Tavmjong Bah 25 Mar '15

25 Mar '15

Hi, I just checked in some code that allows one to change document scale in the Document Properties dialog. This is a first step. I plan to allow the user to select User units per display unit (e.g. mm) or display units per User unit. I also plan an expandable menu that allows setting the 'viewBox' directly as well as handling the case (hopefully rare) where the X scale and Y scale differ. Normal objects on the screen update properly but the editing aids (nodes, grids, guides) do not. I am not sure what I have to do to fix this. (The XML is correct but the display is not.) Feedback welcome. Tav

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Not enough time for trying out Boost or Google Test Framework before Hackfest, anyone else?
by Christoffer Holmstedt 24 Mar '15

24 Mar '15

In late february during the IRC meeting about Jenkins and testing of Inkscape I volunteered to take a deeper look at Boost Test Library and Google Test Framework, with the end result of two different Inkscape branches showing the pros and cons of them both. Life AFK has since then took some unexpected turns but is looking good now for the future. The problem now is that I don't have much spare time before the Hackfest in the end of April to try the testing frameworks out. So if we want a discussion about the choice of testing framework at the Hackfest it would be beneficial if someone else could do it. If nothing else I will try to get back to this issue later this year. Regards -- Christoffer Holmstedt

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Inkscape with git-bzr-ng, error pulling from trunk
by Christoffer Holmstedt 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

Hi I'm following the instructions on our website at [1] but I'm missing one critical part of information. If I clone the repository one weekend and then come back to it a week later the first thing I need to do is to update master branch (lp:inkscape / trunk) so I have the latest commits on my local machine. How is this done properly? "git bzr sync" from [2] seems to be the right command but I'm not sure, it succeeds without errors most of the time. "git pull" doesn't work because I don't have any remotes in my "git" repository. "git bzr pull" gives errors some times but not always. The errors I get from both "git bzr sync" and "git bzr pull" are as follows: "warning: Not updating refs/heads/bzr/master (new tip bbdb26a8c9d67d9c75d03c43b8db4686008a0913 does not contain deaf8922dbca36e15fe43a72b2b4320ae649a42f)" The message is sort of obvious that my local branch and remote have diverged but they have not when I compare "git log" with the commits available on launchpad in lp:inkscape. [1] https://inkscape.org/en/develop/using-git-repositories/ [2] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~termie/git-bzr-ng/master/view/head:/README.rst Any help is appreciated. Regards -- Christoffer Holmstedt

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Colour is Broken?
by Martin Owens 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

This interesting video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKnqECcg6Gw If I'm remembering right, all open source tools use RGB average and suffer this same blending issue. What's the future look like for a solution? Martin,

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Path outliner
by Krzysztof Kosiński 22 Mar '15

22 Mar '15

I recently noticed some commits to a 'path outliner' (src/helper/geom-pathstroke.cpp). This looks like something that should eventually be moved into 2Geom. Regards, Krzysztof

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Call for reviewers
by Jabier Arraiza 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

Hi to all! Has anybody time to help me? I want to get some of this merged before the HackFest 2015. And i want a review previous to the merge to be "sure" with the merge. I have this branches pending to review: [1] Simplify pencil strokes in a interactive way [2] Transform paths by two knots (LPE) [3] Rotate copies improvement. Added Kaleidoscope mode (LPE) [4] Mirror symmetry improvement. Added "fusion parameter"(LPE) [5] Bend from clipboard. Apply a bend LPE in pen and pencil mode whith the contents of the clipboard [1]https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/simplify-lpe-pencil-too… [2]https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/transform_by_two_points [3]https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/copy-rotate-lpe-improve… [4]https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/mirror-symetry-lpe-impr… [5]https://code.launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/inkscape/bendFromClipboard Thanks very much in advance, Jabiertxo.

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win32 wix based msi installer - next steps
by the Adib 18 Mar '15

18 Mar '15

Hello All, instead of following https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1418595 I would like to share my ideas for the wix based win32/win64 msi installer. The msi based installer was introduced in 0.91. It has several flaws - beside some benefits using native platform installer framework. 1. does not detect old exe based installation but: installer should report directory already exists ... 2. does not allow win32 and win64 side by side installation but: prevents doing so can be implemented, but I think it confuses user which application is linked as .svg application 3. is not localized I am working on how todo: localisation of installer with single msi file 4. does not allow easy upgrade but: will ask for deinstallation first Patch commited for easy upgrade 5. some reports of not linked .svg to inkscape application not yet investigated As of the nature of things before starting localisation all outstanding features should be implemented. I would like to see those fixes backported to release 0.91 branch. So I want to ask: what else do you expect from inkscape msi installer on win32 platform? And where should be the priorities? Regards, Adib. --

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time to sync with lib2geom?
by alvinpenner 15 Mar '15

15 Mar '15

there have been a number of changes made in lib2geom in the last 4 months or so, would this be a good time to sync again? Alvin -- View this message in context: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/time-to-sync-with-lib2geom-tp4973183.html Sent from the Inkscape - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Mirror symmetry on Lattice 2 LPE
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 14 Mar '15

14 Mar '15

Hi to all. Now in development version my last work, myrror symmetry in lattice2 LPE. Here are a video: http://www.jabiertxof.tk/2015/03/mirror-symmetry-in-lattice-2-live.html All the best, Jabier.

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Nice new interpolation feature in Fontforge !
by Ivan Louette 14 Mar '15

14 Mar '15

This nice feature helps to keep harmonious curves when moving nodes : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2mNOTo9lqQ Useful not only for fonts ! ivan

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Board resignation
by Johan Engelen 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

Hello all, A few days ago, I resigned my position on the board. Because of my very low activity (last commit was 3 months ago) and decreased interest in the project, it was time for me to leave the board and make room for someone with fresh energy. There will be an election held to find a replacement board member. Think about whether you'd be interested in having a seat on the board, or who you think should apply for candidacy! There are excellent candidates in our community that deserve to be member of the board. cheers, Johan

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edition
by иван кузнецов 11 Mar '15

11 Mar '15

i am ordinary user. i need have the same fitting ability for transform handles as for nodes. why its not done yet? иван кузнецов.

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Hackfest and LGM Toronto April 26th through May 2nd.
by Tavmjong Bah 10 Mar '15

10 Mar '15

Hi, I will be coordinating our hackfest and the LGM event in Toronto at the end of April and beginning of May. I've prepared a Wiki page with a list of who is attending along with some travel information. I would like to encourage everyone in the Inkscape community to attend these events. We still have unallocated travel funds available. It is not necessary to be attending both events. Send an email to Bryce if you wish to attend. The funds are on a first come/first served basis. The Wiki page is at: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2015_Attendees Tav

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