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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Mandrake, autopackage and gtk+ problem
by Boulenguez Pierre 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Here is my gtk version : pkg-config gtk+-2.0 --modversion 2.2.4 Best Regards Le vendredi 5 Novembre 2004 17:19, Boulenguez Pierre a écrit : > Hi, > Did you installed it from sources ? > I can't find a gtk+2.4 compiled package for mandrake. > > Ps: My mandrake ditribution is quite recent (10.0), and updated. > > Thx anyway > > Le vendredi 5 Novembre 2004 17:00, vous avez écrit : > > Hi, > > > > > On Mandrake 10.0, i'm trying to install the nightly build autopackage > > > and get the following error: > > > Could not find 'GTK+ user interface toolkit'. > > > gtk+2.0 > > > libgtk+2.0_0 > > > > I guess you need GTK 2.4. > > > > Arpad Biro > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. > > www.yahoo.com

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] A few things
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Some more small things : * When no object is selected, the proportion lock icon is not sensitive (unlike the other icons of the same bar) (lock_icon_object.png) * When layer is unlocked, the lock icon is not displayed (lock_icon_layer.png) * A nice to have with layer would be an additional tool : move to another layer (not only previous and next) * It's the first time I'm playing with layers, and I'm a bit surprised : xml seems not to be affected by the operations I make with them (no lock or display tag in xml). I'm able to create new layers, create/delete some object in them, raise/lower them delete the layers. But I'm not able to move objects from a layer to another (even next/previous) and have no action on lock/display Pity, I felt really excited with them (it was the only thing that i was missing with Inkscape). But I hope (quite confident with it), it'll soon be 100% available * Unlike star/polygon and spiral tool bars, ellipse and rectangle have no "reset to default" icon * The 'object' menu may be renamed to 'selection' as all the operations it lists affect all the objects selected (selection) * The open ellipse item in the ellipse tool bar is not sensitive (unless the ellipse has been opened with the controls on canvas) * When I select several objects and call the fill and stroke dialog, it displays a kind of mean of the characteristics of the objects. Don't know if it is good, but it is not consistent with the 'properties' dialog (which displays nothing in this case and is even not sensitive) (fill.png and prop.png) * By the way, why not to add the "properties" icon in the main tool bar (with fill and stroke...) ? > > First : about layers. > > * The layer indication in the bottom of the window is not > clearly displayed. I think it is linked with the fonts used. > Thought it had already been submitted and fixed, but in fact > no. See the small capture. (layers.png) > Someone reported that it can be fixed by rc file editing, but I think > this was not done. Please file a bug. OK, I will. > > Final : (for Frederic) > > Bienvenue instead of Bienvenu would be great :) (I'm taking > a look at the translation at the moment). Will give my a more > detailed review later. (see trad1.png) > > You could just edit the latest translation file and submit it > to patch tracker. Well yes and no : First : at the moment I'm at work, take some time during my pause (lunch break) to have a look and test some few things with Inkscape. But I'm under windows, and I face many problems opening/editing .po files. (If some of you know about any cool tool under win2k...) But when home, no problem (hope I will be able to take a look at it this WE) Plus it's not always obvious (French is not always very 'logical', plus I'm not a vector drawing software specialist and my vocabulary might be wrong sometime. I'd like to compare with other 'similar' software, but sorry I can't afford paying the price of Illustrator or Freehand just for having some vocabulary comparison) to have the appropriate translation, and I'd prefer discuss some points with some other French speaking translators (such as Frederic) before committing stupid mistakes. Regards, Matiphas

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A few things
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 05 Nov '04

05 Nov '04

Hi Inkscape developers: a few things I've noticed on Inkscape, on the following configuration : Win2k, French, 5-Nov-2004 Build. First : about layers. * The layer indication in the bottom of the window is not clearly displayed. I think it is linked with the fonts used. Thought it had already been submitted and fixed, but in fact no. See the small capture. (layers.png) -> Do I submit a new bug ? * I'd like being able to rename the layers. It is ok from the xml editor, but I think it would be a good idea to be able to do it from the layer menu ? RFE ? * Last point : would it be a good idea to have a layer dialog (a bit like align/distribute...) ? I think yes, some people prefer having simply menu and shortcuts ? RFE ? Then : something I've noticed because of the different length of words according to the various translations. See small capture (trad2.png) When modifing an existing rectangle (elipse, star, spiral...), in French (but I think it might be present with some other languages), the tool bar displays 'angement' instead of 'Changement'. Is it possible to adjust the size of those displays dynamically ? (same thing with some other buttons) RFE ? BUG ? Final : (for Frederic) Bienvenue instead of Bienvenu would be great :) (I'm taking a look at the translation at the moment). Will give my a more detailed review later. (see trad1.png) For all (especially Mental) : the layer work is really huge. Inkscape is now covering 99% of my needs. Plus giving me 100% pleasure. Regards, Matiphas

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neon glow offset (fwd)
by Bryce Harrington 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Is this possible now using the clone or offset features? Bryce ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 14:02:58 -0800 From: Carl Johnson <cjohnson@...1...> To: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...1...> Subject: neon glow offset Photoshop does some nice glows around objects. is this possible in the vector world? cj

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Update French translation
by Frederic Rodrigo 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Hi, I have updated the French translation. Fred.

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RE: Spam weekly update
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

n fact, until a last month, spammers used to disturb only a few pages each time, but now they are becomming more annoying. Each time, the wiki is spammed, it affects up to 20 pages. Really a nuisance to remove this. Regards, Matiphas > -----Original Message----- > From: Bryce Harrington [mailto:bryce@...260...] > Sent: jeudi 4 novembre 2004 10:05 > To: Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) > Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: Spam weekly update > > > Okay, I've banned those two ips and removed all those added > pages. Boy > that was a pain. If we get another of these form of spammers, I'll be > all in favor of turning on passwords. > > Thanks, > Bryce > > On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > we've got 2 more winners : > > > > * 209.158.113.3 : this guy adds links in existing pages > (see list below) > > * 202.107.216.99 : this one has added a large bunch of new > pages in the > > wiki ( see list below). Anyone can remove them ? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Matiphas > > > > * 209.158.113.3 : > > # (diff) ExtensionArchitectureProposals 6:16 pm (35 > changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) GtkMMification 6:16 pm (25 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) ExtensionArchProposal 6:12 pm (18 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) Roadmap 6:08 pm (289 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) CompilingInkscape 6:08 pm (90 changes) . . . . . > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) ClipartContribution 6:04 pm (21 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) PastMilestones 6:02 pm (16 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) DocumentLayers 6:01 pm (14 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) TranslationInformation 6:00 pm (11 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) WhiteboardSeniorProjectProposal 6:00 pm (10 > changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) OtherGoals 6:00 pm (7 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) DevelopmentRoadmap 5:59 pm (104 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) SubsystemRearchitecture 5:59 pm (6 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) ReleaseNotes 5:56 pm (511 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) Editprefs 5:56 pm (5 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) Galleries 5:55 pm (20 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) AccessibleGraphics 5:53 pm (8 changes) . . . . . > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) Inkscape 5:53 pm (207 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) Win32Port 5:51 pm (21 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) NetworkedEditing 5:50 pm (29 changes) . . . . . > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) HomePage 5:50 pm (41 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) KeyboardProfiles 5:27 pm (8 changes) . . . . . > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) TufteStylePresentation 5:19 pm (11 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > # (diff) How To Start A Page 4:57 pm (15 changes) . . . . . > > 209.158.113.3 > > > > > > * 202.107.216.99 : > > * (diff) QuotesOnPlace 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) 321 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Sandbox 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxWizard 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Bakefile 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) OnComingToWriteAboutPlace 12:52 am . . . . . > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) IRC Etiquette 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) TreesAndPlace 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Installing WxWin For MS Free Tools 12:53 am . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) MythicPlace 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Reducing Executable Size 12:53 am . . . . . > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) PhotographingPlace/Journeys 12:53 am . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) hello 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Cross-Compiling Under Linux 12:52 am . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) How To Use This Wiki 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) myseo 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) kitty 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxOTL 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxWidgets For MFC Programmers 12:53 am . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Table Of Contents 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Browser-Shortcuts For The Online Docs 12:53 am > . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Compiling WxWidgets 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxWidgets Bounties 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Bakefile Wxbase 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Using XML With WxWidgets 12:53 am . . . . . > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) MSVC Setup Guide 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Dev-CPP Setup Guide 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Developers Notebook/WxWinCE 12:53 am . . . . . > > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Avoiding Memory Leaks 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) Developers Notebook/Docs 12:53 am . . . . . > 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxStyledTextCtrl 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxMSW Issues 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > * (diff) WxWidgets Vacancies 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 > > > > > > >

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Spam weekly update
by Gazal, Geraud (GE Healthcare) 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Hi, we've got 2 more winners : * 209.158.113.3 : this guy adds links in existing pages (see list below) * 202.107.216.99 : this one has added a large bunch of new pages in the wiki ( see list below). Anyone can remove them ? Regards, Matiphas * 209.158.113.3 : # (diff) ExtensionArchitectureProposals 6:16 pm (35 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) GtkMMification 6:16 pm (25 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) ExtensionArchProposal 6:12 pm (18 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) Roadmap 6:08 pm (289 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) CompilingInkscape 6:08 pm (90 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) ClipartContribution 6:04 pm (21 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) PastMilestones 6:02 pm (16 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) DocumentLayers 6:01 pm (14 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) TranslationInformation 6:00 pm (11 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) WhiteboardSeniorProjectProposal 6:00 pm (10 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) OtherGoals 6:00 pm (7 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) DevelopmentRoadmap 5:59 pm (104 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) SubsystemRearchitecture 5:59 pm (6 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) ReleaseNotes 5:56 pm (511 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) Editprefs 5:56 pm (5 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) Galleries 5:55 pm (20 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) AccessibleGraphics 5:53 pm (8 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) Inkscape 5:53 pm (207 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) Win32Port 5:51 pm (21 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) NetworkedEditing 5:50 pm (29 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) HomePage 5:50 pm (41 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) KeyboardProfiles 5:27 pm (8 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) TufteStylePresentation 5:19 pm (11 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 # (diff) How To Start A Page 4:57 pm (15 changes) . . . . . 209.158.113.3 * 202.107.216.99 : * (diff) QuotesOnPlace 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) 321 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Sandbox 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxWizard 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Bakefile 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) OnComingToWriteAboutPlace 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) IRC Etiquette 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) TreesAndPlace 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Installing WxWin For MS Free Tools 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) MythicPlace 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Reducing Executable Size 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) PhotographingPlace/Journeys 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) hello 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Cross-Compiling Under Linux 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) How To Use This Wiki 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) myseo 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) kitty 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxOTL 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxWidgets For MFC Programmers 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Table Of Contents 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Browser-Shortcuts For The Online Docs 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Compiling WxWidgets 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxWidgets Bounties 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Bakefile Wxbase 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Using XML With WxWidgets 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) MSVC Setup Guide 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Dev-CPP Setup Guide 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Developers Notebook/WxWinCE 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Avoiding Memory Leaks 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) Developers Notebook/Docs 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxStyledTextCtrl 12:52 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxMSW Issues 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99 * (diff) WxWidgets Vacancies 12:53 am . . . . . 202.107.216.99

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URI class
by Jon A. Cruz 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

Well... to get some stuff cleaned up, I've started a bit of tune-up on the URI class. I've added a few methods, but also added Doxygen comments. The latter might make a difference, as I'm counting on the class behaving the way I've described, so checking things over to be sure the docs are proper and in sync would be helpful. Of course, if anyone cares, they can also check to see if I did any late-night careless stuff. (Oh, and diff with ignoring whitespace).

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Re: Towards resolution of SVG 1.2 Flowing text
by MenTaLguY 04 Nov '04

04 Nov '04

On Wed, 2004-11-03 at 19:25, Ian Hickson wrote: > > - do you believe UAX 14 addresses the needs for automatic line > > breaking? (eg. interoperability, CSS not available, internationalised > > text support) > > UAX 14 is woefully inadequate for describing required line breaking > behaviour. Requiring UAX 14 compliance dramantically restricts the ability > for user agents to achieve optimum line breaking (as, in fact, UAX 14 > itself points out in the introduction), for example it prevents handling > of hyphentation and doesn't allow for adaptive balancing justification > algorithms. > > So no. Speaking as an SVG authoring tool implementor (Inkscape), the impression I get is that these constraints make SVG's flow facilities relatively useless for much of our user community who want more visually refined breaking algorithms. > For images, I think > the better solution would be for word wrapping to be performed at > authoring time (possibly using extensions for authoring tools to use so > that they can agree on what to wrap around what). We'd decided to attempt to exactly that approach, though the current implementation is very provisional. It's potentially kind of nasty, but not that bad; it should render identically in all conforming SVG UAs, which was the main goal. I think I understand the desire the SVG 1.2 flow stuff is trying to address, though; namely text in generated SVG documents where: * the text can vary greatly in length This necessitates that at least some layout decisions be made at or after the time the final SVG document is generated -- a prepared static template for layout may not be sufficient. * the code generating the text might be a simple ECMAScript program or XSLT transform I've tried implementing basic text flow in XSLT before. It seemed doable (less painfully with sufficiently new revisions of the standard) but it was too much pain and overhead to be done server-side at the time. Doing flow in ECMAScript on the client-side is another option, but at best means another large hunk of script to suck over the web along with the original document, and does require scripting support. -and- * the automatically flowed text should be renderable in any SVG UA (at least one which implements a suitable SVG profile) Since SVG UAs obviously aren't required to implement anything not specified in the standard, using a separate namespace for flow extensions doesn't provide a very strong interoperability guarantee. It's easy to imagine a desire for these things on the Web, which I think implies that SVG needs some sort of basic built-in flow capability (even if people adopt other approaches to meet other sets of needs). -mental

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Bug Stats 11/03
by Bryce Harrington 03 Nov '04

03 Nov '04

We're at 225 now. Wow. :-) Bug ID Pts Title ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1057658 6 fill property lost on moving objects 984055 6 Printing on Windows 2000 - Red and Blue components swapped 995453 9 SuSE 9.1 rpm on sourceforge does not work with SuSE 9.1 pro 1058746 (inv) wrong eps export 1057874 (dup) pls rebuild x86 suse rpm from newer src.rpm 1058750 (dup) Markers and stroke paint 1057421 (inv) boolean ops problem 1058734 (inv) Opacity of 75% in previous versions SVG documents 1058741 (inv) No fill or stroke paint on new objects 1056366 6 unlocalizable strings 1058294 6 xlink:href lost on save 1058228 6 CVS build fails on gdk_pixbuf_set_option 1057918 6 Crash when undoing bezier nodes 1057911 6 Dialog appears with -z option 1026260 (inv) crash at startup 1008895 6 invalid xhtml 1056845 9 Bitmap Images broken on Win32 955020 6 assert when quitting with dialog and duplicated window 993447 3 Wrong export area 1022832 3 File dialog glibmm Warning 994853 3 dialog title handled with wrong encoding 1029755 3 png resolution not imported 1039109 9 various problems with text after refactoring 980065 6 Garbled display in "pattern" fill dialog 1048802 6 2 find dialogs 1029530 (dup) WIN CVS: crash on file | import 1051350 (dup) Crash when open a file 990659 6 ill2svg fails without Image/Magick 1054270 9 Win32: Aligning objects causes crash 1048614 6 export: "selection" not toggled with text 931496 6 image URL not updating 998672 (dup) printing broken on Windows XP 1001279 6 Version: 0.39-suse91.0 rpm needs libpopt.so.0 1012089 6 CVS snapshots no longer available 996493 (dup) .39 Inkscape freezes 992962 3 Build Warning: Extensions warnings 992986 3 Build Warning: deprecated functions 992987 3 Build Warning: missing constructors 992985 3 Build Warning: unused variables/functions 1004134 6 'Changed' flag cleared when save not successful 1041643 3 Files fail to open on Gnome 2.8 1048151 6 Union destroy objects in some cases 984096 9 Assertion failures with calligraphy tool 1045067 3 --without-gui crashes if home dir not writable 1038932 6 Export silently fails when file cannot be created 984854 9 crashes with non-existent gradient in gradient editor 1000350 9 --print option can attempt to open dialogs and segfault 1041757 (dup) undefined symbol: gdk_threads_lock 993294 9 RDF improperly exported with plain SVG 1024915 9 glib-2.5.2: crashes on clicking fill and stroke dialog ======================================================================== Total: 225 Goal: 150pts

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