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Re: [Inkscape-devel] docked toolboxes
by bulia byak 18 Nov '03

18 Nov '03

> Out of curiousity, how many of you folks out there currently use docked > toolboxes? (i.e. extra toolboxes embedded in the document window) > >I'm seriously considering killing the feature to free up UI space. On the contrary, I would like to eventually see all dialogs dockable, so that users can choose what they want docked and what they want floating. This seems to be how the modern apps behave. I agree that with transiency, floating dialogs are now usable, but docked ones still have two advantages: - they don't overlap anything. This may be more intuitive for some users. - they better emulate the Windows model where, basically, floating child windows do not have a focus of their own. E.g. palettes in Illustrator are _all_ focused when the parent window has focus. Only a widget within a floating palette can have focus; if no widgets are focused, all input goes to the parent window. This is what our transients still cannot quite emulate but what dockables can (even though they are not floating). So, though it's not high priority at the moment, I'd like all dialogs to become dockable, and I don't like the idea of killing the only one which is dockable now. What are the benefits of this? -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] cvs update
by bulia byak 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Yes, the web interface at sf.net seems to be broken for some time, but checking out via CVS works and gives you the up-to-the-minute version. -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/

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Difference between sodipodi and inscape?
by Jonathan C. Sitte 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 What is the big difference between sodipodi and inscape? I have both installed and do not see a big difference at the moment. I am sure there will be soon but what about now? Just a thought ;). - -- Jonathan C. Sitte <jcsitte@...67...> Digital Arts & Computer Technology http://www.staticnull.org/jcsitte/ 917.414.2559 M-F 8AM-10PM Public Key: http://www.staticnull.org/jcsitte/0x40E69A47-pubkey.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/uEpCbzreREDmmkcRAhn+AJ0Xtfs3OtsM+IBzmLIpemLvBQc9XgCgj/n3 n7M8PEUU5M7BwLIxcNBRkfQ= =cR4M -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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more stock images
by Robert Crosbie 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Im my latest commit, I have replaced all calls to gtk_image_new_from_file with gtk_image_new_from_stock. My next setp will be to replace the calls to sp_icon_new*, gtk_pixmap_new*, etc. Cheers, Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.ms…

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KDE file dialogues
by James Ots 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Hi, I think it would be really nice if the KDE file dialogues could be put back into inkscape as a compile-time option, like in sodipodi. I can cope with the rest of inkscape being gtk (I don't like it, but I can cope!), but KDE's file dialogues are just too nice to go without. -- Cheers James Ots www.jamesots.com

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A dozen patches
by Bryce Harrington 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

There's a dozen patches in the patch tracker waiting for reviewing and integration. Half are old ones I pulled from the Sodipodi mailing list archives and will need reviewing. If everyone with CVS commit rights could take one or two, we should be able to clear the queue out no prob. Thanks, Bryce

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layers
by MenTaLguY 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

Last night, I hammered out the most important part of implementing layers -- with latest CVS, you can use the XML editor to set the inkscape:groupmode attribute of a group to "layer", and be able to edit its children directly. There's still a lot of UI and refinement work to do, however; I've outlined it on the Wiki here: http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DocumentLayers -mental

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dialog titles
by bulia byak 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

I removed duplication of dialog titles - now they are taken from the corresponding verb and are thus the same as the commands that open them. While at it, I also added the dialog's shortcut automatically added in parentheses. Press ctrl-shift-f to see an example. I think this is good for usability, as the user gets a clue at once what to press to bring the focus to a dialog, and next time he's likely to remember to use the shortcut to open it. Any comments? -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Search Smarter - get the new eXact Search Bar for free! http://www.exactsearchbar.com/

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Proposal for an alternate object properties palette ( floater, widg-a-log, translette )
by T Ingham 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

Hello again all, This memo will serve to be the genus for what I would eventually like to propose. I'm hoping for plenty of feedback from everyone to make this tool as useful as possible. The core concept is quite simple really, enumerate and visually explain all editable parameters of a given shape on the canvas in a single floating palette. 1. Problem Although much work is being done to promote existing dialogs to the status of sane players on the workspace front, there are still pitfalls in having all manner of oversized and disproportionate dialogs open on the screen. Namely is simple visual clutter. Having several windows open at once can cause both new users to become lost quickly, and more seasoned users wasting time fidgeting with dialogs to position them according to their wishes. 2. Accessibility concerns Using many dialogs, users that cannot or do not use the mouse are asked to traverse 3 tiers of information to edit shape data outside the canvas. First they must achieve focus on a dialog ( ctrl+# ) , second they must select ( in some cases ) a tab containing the subset of data they wish to manipulate ( tab key? ) and third they must gain focus on the cell or control that allows them to make the edit ( tab key? ). 3. Solution Provide an additional ( or alternative depending on how you lean ) palette for editing shape properties that contains an hierarchical list of property groups and properties. This window would behave exactly as other palettes ( esc to focus canvas, enter to affect change ), but would centralize object properties in one dialog minimizing the memory cost to the user for keyboard shortcuts to open dialogs ( they would only need one, and we could make it an easy one, cmd+i // get info // ) Once the dialog has focus, the user could then use the arrow keys to locate the property they wish to edit and affect the change desired. While it may seem that we will lose the specificity of multiple dialogs, this interface would provide us with a more open method of combining property sets, and in the future it could be used as the basis for generating custom property dialogs per user utilizing xml documents to store dialog layout information. 4. A few key points It appears that currently, you cannot enter a numerical value in the float fields of the color dialog, is this intended behavior? Users would be able to close tree paths in this new properties palette that they might not use often, this allows the user to immediately improve their productivity when performing these types of edits. Thanks for your time as always, I hope this stirs the pot a bit. -Thomas

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Inkscape stock support
by Robert Crosbie 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

Ok, If everything went well with my first commit, I have just added some initial GtkIconFactory support. So far I have only converted the stroke_style dialog to register and lookup icons in the stock icons. There were two new files added. src/inkscape-stock.h - define new stock icons here src/inkscape-stock.c - add new stock icons to the list There were three files modified: src/Makefile.am - added inkscape-stock.[ch] src/main.c - initializes the stock icons dialogs/stroke-style.c - now calls gtk_image_new_from_stock. I basicaly followed the way gaim and gimp were using GtkIconFactory. I'll be adding more support and converting other dialogs later. Cheers, Rob. http://members.rogers.com/rcrosbie _________________________________________________________________ >From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio

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