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Making devel packages, active extensions in devel
by Jabier Arraiza 06 Mar '13

06 Mar '13

Hi.I have two problems making packages for Inkscape. Im making a inkskape-devel package writting in rules -- --program-sifix=-devel I finaly compile and run the program as inkscape-devel, the problem is i coulden`t have simultaneus inkscape and inkscape-devel. ¿Any body know how to do it? The other cuestion is inkscape-devel have a lot of extensions disabled/empty. ¿Is posible to active it? Hi, Jabier.

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] CMYK/Spot Color (was Synthesized font faces.)
by Jelle Mulder 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

Arshdeep, Great idea.. using 0-100% rather than 0-1 would be bliss for us old school guys ;-) In general using 2 decimals instead of integers doesn't make that much difference for most CMYK designs. Most of the upper and lower values are not reachable for the press anyway. For instance many digital print machines won't print values lower than 10% and stop at 90% at the default settings used by the print shops. On topic of hexachrome and spot colors. Only the very high end of the print work scale as used in my native country of the Netherlands, spot colors are default for any corporation that wants to be held serious. KPN for instance even tried to patent their colour green some years ago and they will pay the extra layer of ink without blinking. Hexachrome is a pretty basic use in glossy magazines that actually often add another layer of varnish to it as well as spotcolor. Direct to plate with stochastic rastering is not uncommon either. I've got an Uncle running a 6 color Heidelberg with an additional varnish extension who specialises in Art related books in Holland and that is mainly hexachrome. It is not a large market, but highly lucrative and relatively stable, unlike the lower end of printing. I personally have been doing print since 1993 and I've seen it all pass the revue. Holland may be a bit of a exception to the rule, but it has been a leader in print technology since the 1600's when all the forbidden stuff was printed there. Design is an export product as much as taters. If Inkscape would support CMYK natively, rather than having to use workaround with the export so you can check while doing the design it would make it a more useful tool. Late binding puts the responsibility of error correction at the desk of your printer as well and most designers I know want to be able to do that themselves. Using color proofing printers and using screen callibration machines to get the whole design department on the same level. Those are not companies that are scared to spend a buck or what on tools and equipment as they also are paid in due for the use of it. Now sure, Inkscape does not have to pretend to operate on the same level, but if it is possible to support the basics I'd say it should be a consideration. I'd love to be able to do a color seperation in Inkscape in a similar way as I can in Coreldraw for instance, so I could check the output raster of my original Magenta raster with what is actually being printed in the print shop. Currently that is a tad cumbersome. My 2 Feng, Jelle

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Synthesized font faces.
by Jelle Mulder 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

Hi all, From a designers point of view I would stay away from generated faux font styles as far as possible. There is a reason why not all fonts have these styles that often go beyond the humongous amount of work that needs to be put into creating a font. If a designer really wants to screw up a font creators work, they can use stroke thickness, skew, stretch or even envelopes. But any experienced designer not satisfied with the look of a font will normally find himself exactly that one that fits his desired balance of whitespace and content. It's part of the skill of a designer to find the correct font that supports the design and typography. Font design itself is a work of dedication and skill that has always been beyond me and goes well beyond what normally meets the eye at 14px. Having tools like Fontforge really didn't do font design all that good if I have a look at modern fonts with their horrible flows, kerning, baseline shifts, corrupt edges and what all more. It's often like everyone with a camera being a photographer or everyone that knows how to push buttons in dreamweaver calling themselves web designer. As long as Inkscape doesn't really support CMYK, Hexachrome, Spot colours and the like, it can never be considered a truly professional tool for print. SVG supports named colours that might be used to simulate spot colours, but it is a rather small palette and the SVG standard just doesn't support anything but sRGB really. Pantone will not give a license to Inkscape for free I gather as they make a living on this and a good one. Color support can only be done using Inkscape namespaces with the sRGB equivalent in the style or attributes next to it and is dependent on output devises as well. Would be a hell of a lot of work to figure out even a few color profiles and quite some wasted resources for the one who does that. Maybe some university might be interested in doing that or some very progressive printer with deep pockets? The latter at this moment not available in Europe at least or will be hard to find. It's a massacre at the moment. If I would like to see anything in SVG 2.0 it would be arbitrary color spaces. Some way to define a color and it's sRGB equivalent in XML and link that up to the SVG file, like is being done with @fonts. @colorProfile or so. I convert the colors in Coreldraw from a Inkscape PDF export. The only reason I still use it and am bound to Windows. My 2 Feng, Jelle

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BUG #1060837
by Arshdeep Singh 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

Related to bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1060837 How to re-create the scenario being talked about in the bug report. All I get their is A(Alpha) value for my inkscape. The bug mentions the word 'ink'. I am guessing it refers to matching the printed colours and the colors on your monitor, as its a matter under the CMS (Color Management System). As an artist, I haven't worked on very high profile projects such that minor color chnages would make a huge impact so I am totally oblivious to the whole CMS thing. -- demicoder

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GTK Adjustment
by Arshdeep Singh 05 Mar '13

05 Mar '13

What are the page increments and page size arguments in: http://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/3.5/GtkAdjustment.html#gtk-adjustment-new Thanks -- demicoder

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Help with CubicBezier in a closed Geom::Path::const_iterator
by Jabiertxo Arraiza Cenoz 04 Mar '13

04 Mar '13

Hi. I have a problem. Its this: T get the last subpath of a Geom::Path::const_iterator whith a this options: end_open(), end(), end_default(), end_closed() and this subpath is not degenerated at the end. But never get a CubicBezier from the last subpath. Anybody can help me? Thanks in advance.

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docks and toolbars redesign proposal
by Alexandre Prokoudine 04 Mar '13

04 Mar '13

Hi, Someone posted this on deviantART and then on our G+ page (in comments): http://bassultra.deviantart.com/art/Inkscape-Redesign-345519518 Personally, I don't like the split Fill'n'Stroke dialog much, but bringing dialogs' buttons closer to the docks area makes sense to me. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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boost incompatibility
by Isobel Knowles 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

Dear all, I have discovered that inkscape 0.47pre4 to 0.48.4 are incompatible with boost versions greater than 1.45.0. The most noticeable symptom is that text is not rendered properly. This is because it is heavily clipped. The effect is similar to that described in the (dismissed) bug 875469. To demonstrate this bug, compile inkscape with boost 1.46.0 or above and run it. Pick the text tool, click anywhere on the canvas and start to enter some text. Only the bottom couple of rows of pixels of each character are displayed. If you convert this text to a path it displays properly. Another way to demonstrate the bug is to take some text and put it on a curved path. As you modify the nodes of the path it is possible to see the text rendered inside a staircase-like set of clip rectangles. This problem affects inkview as well as inkscape. I am compiling with gcc 4.4.7 and configuring it like so: CC="gcc" CXX="c++" CFLAGS="-O3 -fstack-protector-all -march=i486" \ CXXFLAGS="-O3 -fstack-protector-all -march=i486" \ LDFLAGS="-fstack-protector-all" ./configure I have tried different versions of all the dependencies of inkscape, including C compiler, libraries and kernel, and the bug is independent of everything but the version of boost. At this stage I have not tried compiling with a lower optimisation level, so it is possible this bug only comes out of the woodwork with -O3. Equally, it is possible this bug only appears on 32-bit platforms. Yours, Is.

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PR for shortcuts
by Alexandre Prokoudine 01 Mar '13

01 Mar '13

Hi, Since 0.49 is shaping up so well with regards to polishing, I'd like to mention yet another thing. A while ago I discovered that several of our long-time users who have been with us since forever didn't even know that we have one-key shortcuts for tools. I mean, for real. People who do real design with Inkscape and are mostly happy with it were quietly complaining that there were no simpler shortcuts. Imagine my surprise :) Since 0.49 now shows F* based shortcuts, how difficult would it be to patch it to show alternative shortcuts as well, after a "," character? Or would it be too confusing? P.S. I've seen this complaint many times before: people were asking if there was a way to configure Inkscape to use some one-key shortcuts for tools. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] PR for shortcuts (John Smith)
by Jelle Mulder 28 Feb '13

28 Feb '13

Hi all, As the discussion on short-cuts is popping up. If it would be possible to do so... can Shift+Delete be mapped to remove selected and copy to clipboard? It is a quite common operation that I miss in Inkscape. Shift+Insert instead or additional to CTRL+V would be welcome too. Having multiple mappings to one tool/task? Cheers, Jelle

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