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Boston hackfest sticker: Boston Teaparty Ships version
by C R 05 Mar '18

05 Mar '18

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vzo7eq2tjc2njys/inkscape_foil_sticker_boston_hack…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] (re-)Introducing: ink/stitch, machine embroidery for Inkscape
by Lex Neva 05 Mar '18

05 Mar '18

On Sun, 2018-03-04 at 12:26 +0000, inkscape-devel-request@...349... orge.net wrote: > Very cool Lex, > I know you mentioned translations, but I'm curious about what other > issues you've hit being an extension that is distributed separately > from Inkscape. We've talked a bunch about how to decouple the release > cycle of extensions and the core, but I'm not sure that we understand > all of the problems. I'm so glad you asked! There are a few rough edges that we had to work around. In fact, one of them just came up: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitc h/issues/18#issuecomment-370301197. In that thread, we're talking about creating a PDF printout feature that shows the colors used in a design and the order they sew in. My original plan was to use the nifty, growing list of features in the command-line interface for Inkscape. My understanding is that these features are provided specifically to act as a "standard library" of functionality that can be used by extensions. The problem with this is that extensions don't know where the Inkscape binary is. I can imagine writing code to guess, or perhaps look at the parent process, but trying to support Linux, Windows, and Mac sounds like a nightmare. End result: ink/stitch can't use this functionality. Another rough edge is that extensions don't know where the current SVG file is stored on disk. We can access the file's basename, but not the directory. This is kind of annoying because ink/stitch wants to output a machine embroidery design file (.DST, .PES, etc). ink/stitch works around this by storing all of these files in a set "output directory" specified by the user, but this is obviously not ideal. Here's where one of our users/contributors discusses his desire for the design file to save alongside the SVG: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitch/issues/ 75 I gather that Inkscape did previously store the directory, but it was removed due to privacy concerns. Perhaps the directory can be included in the SVG _only_ when communicating with an extension, not when saving? Another possibility is that the embroidery design output functionality could be an "output" extension, but I haven't played with that. I'm under the impression that the user would have to choose a folder and file name every time they wanted to save using an output plugin, which would be a prohibitively bad user experience for ink/stitch since it's common to repeatedly re-render the design file until you get it right. "Dependency hell" is another big issue for extensions. Pyinstaller is very promising as a solution to this problem! I highly recommend mentioning it in the inkscape extension documentation. Trying to explain to users how to install python modules required by an extension is destined for failure. On Windows and Mac, the problem is even worse, as Inkscape bundles its own Python. It's very confusing for users that they can do `pip install -r requirements.txt` but then inkstitch still can't load its dependencies, because they didn't install the requirements in Inkscape's bundled Python. Installing modules for Windows's Python is especially complex. Ultimately, we desire a completely smooth, painless installation process for our users. Currently, installation involves downloading a ZIP/tarball and uncompressing it in Inkscape's extensions directory. This is pretty smooth, and we could refine it even more by distributing it as a self-extracting installer. Anything more complex than uncompressing an archive risks losing users before they even try our extension. One final thing: Inkscape's extension model is powerful and nifty, but of course it's also limiting. We've gone to a lot of lengths to work around this limitation, including popping up an entire UI of our own in one of ink/stitch's bundled extensions. Still, we constantly bump into the inability to integrate more directly with Inkscape, by adding tools or the like. I'm sure you've encountered this idea before. :) If Inkscape introduces such functionality, we'll be among the first to try it out. > Also, do you have any pictures of something embroidered using the > extension? I saw the screencasts but I'd love to see the objects they > resulted in as well. > Ted Sure! Here's a sampling of my favorite patches that I've made using ink/stitch: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitch/tree/master/images/patches

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[RESEND] Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting
by Bryce Harrington 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@...34...> ----- Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2018 02:23:24 +0000 From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon@...34...> To: bryce@...961... Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net host sfs-lb-ml.sog [172.30.20.202] SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net>: 550 Unknown user Reporting-MTA: dns; sfi-mx-1.v28.lw.sourceforge.com Action: failed Final-Recipient: rfc822;inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; sfs-lb-ml.sog Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 Unknown user Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:18:03 -0800 From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> To: inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting Transcript from meeting: http://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/board_meeting_2018-03-… New action items: ==== Budget 2018 ==== ♢ ACTION: Increase amount allocated to hackfests and post a v2 for the budget [bryce] ==== Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association ==== ♢ ACTION: Find two (or three?) Inkscape people to send to the Color/Scribus meeting to learn about how we could do better color management with Inkscape. ==== Boston Hackfest ==== ♢ ACTION: Send Hackfest invites to oldtimers [Tavmjong] ==== Other Business ==== ♢ ACTION: Investigate Fastly invoice charges [scislac,bryce] Previous action items: ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers] ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and general sponsorship options [bryce] ♦ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous contributors) to attend the hackfest. [Tavmjong] ♦ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for hackfest. [bryce] ♦ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then email bryce for help [crogers] ♦ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs [bryce,tedg] ♦ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more attendees [Tavmjong] ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team] ♦ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce] ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav] ♦ ACTION: Decide what oldtimers to send hackfest invites to [bryce] ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface] Bryce On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 08:48:27AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: > Our monthly board meeting is scheduled for this Friday, Mar 2nd, > at 10am Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members are welcome. > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings > > (Note that a Release Team meeting will follow immediately after. > The Vectors Team will be meeting the next day.) > > > Agenda: > > + Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association > + Boston Hackfest (March) [doctormo] > + Merchandise sales [crogers] > + Board election process review [tedg] > + Infrastructure hosting [bryce] > + LGM 2018 [Tav] > + GSoC [ScislaC] > + Other Business > > > Action Items from last meeting: > > ♢ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav] > ♢ ACTION: Send invites to old Inkscapers to attend hackfest [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface] > ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of > Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers] > ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and > general sponsorship options [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous > contributors) to attend the hackfest. [tedg] > ♢ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for > hackfest. [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then > email bryce for help [crogers] > ♢ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs > [bryce,tedg] > ♢ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more > attendees [Tavmjong] > ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for > support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team] > > > Bryce > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-board mailing list > Inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board ----- End forwarded message -----

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[RESEND] Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting
by Bryce Harrington 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@...62...> ----- Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 18:23:21 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@...62...> To: bryce@...961... Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:18:14 -0800 from static-50-53-76-183.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.76.183] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> (reason: 550 unknown user) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx.sourceforge.net.: >>> DATA <<< 550 unknown user 550 5.1.1 <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>... User unknown Reporting-MTA: dns; vinyl.outflux.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:18:14 -0800 Final-Recipient: RFC822; inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx.sourceforge.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 unknown user Last-Attempt-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2018 18:23:19 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2018 15:18:03 -0800 From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> To: inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net Cc: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-board] Inkscape Board Meeting Transcript from meeting: http://alpha.inkscape.org/board/meetings/transcripts/board_meeting_2018-03-… New action items: ==== Budget 2018 ==== ♢ ACTION: Increase amount allocated to hackfests and post a v2 for the budget [bryce] ==== Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association ==== ♢ ACTION: Find two (or three?) Inkscape people to send to the Color/Scribus meeting to learn about how we could do better color management with Inkscape. ==== Boston Hackfest ==== ♢ ACTION: Send Hackfest invites to oldtimers [Tavmjong] ==== Other Business ==== ♢ ACTION: Investigate Fastly invoice charges [scislac,bryce] Previous action items: ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers] ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and general sponsorship options [bryce] ♦ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous contributors) to attend the hackfest. [Tavmjong] ♦ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for hackfest. [bryce] ♦ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then email bryce for help [crogers] ♦ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs [bryce,tedg] ♦ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more attendees [Tavmjong] ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team] ♦ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce] ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav] ♦ ACTION: Decide what oldtimers to send hackfest invites to [bryce] ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface] Bryce On Thu, Mar 01, 2018 at 08:48:27AM -0800, Bryce Harrington wrote: > Our monthly board meeting is scheduled for this Friday, Mar 2nd, > at 10am Pacific in #inkscape-devel. All members are welcome. > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Board_Meetings > > (Note that a Release Team meeting will follow immediately after. > The Vectors Team will be meeting the next day.) > > > Agenda: > > + Madras Printer's and Lithographers' Association > + Boston Hackfest (March) [doctormo] > + Merchandise sales [crogers] > + Board election process review [tedg] > + Infrastructure hosting [bryce] > + LGM 2018 [Tav] > + GSoC [ScislaC] > + Other Business > > > Action Items from last meeting: > > ♢ ACTION: Arrange vote on Budget 2018 [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Make a list of projects for cleaning up our code base [Tav] > ♢ ACTION: Send invites to old Inkscapers to attend hackfest [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Collect CMYK ideas into Color_management wiki page [alface] > ♢ ACTION: Analyze how we could improve internal handling of > Illustrator and Corel file import [crogers] > ♢ ACTION: Follow up with MPLA to clarify on funded development and > general sponsorship options [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Start reaching out to people (including previous > contributors) to attend the hackfest. [tedg] > ♢ ACTION: Arrange votes for any special case travelers for > hackfest. [bryce] > ♢ ACTION: Try one more time to access spreadshirt password, then > email bryce for help [crogers] > ♢ ACTION: Collab on markdown formatting for the board docs > [bryce,tedg] > ♢ ACTION: Get the word out about LGM / Inkscape and invite more > attendees [Tavmjong] > ♢ ACTION: Evaluate use of discorse (https://discuss.pixls.us/ ?) for > support/mailing list/forum type stuff [Vector Team] > > > Bryce > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-board mailing list > Inkscape-board(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-board ----- End forwarded message -----

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[RESEND] Re: inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
by Bryce Harrington 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

Hoping SF is back online... ----- Forwarded message from Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@...62...> ----- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:32:58 -0800 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <MAILER-DAEMON@...62...> To: bryce@...961... Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details The original message was received at Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:32:24 -0800 from static-50-53-76-183.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net [50.53.76.183] ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <inkscape-devel@...6...> (reason: 550 unknown user) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx.sourceforge.net.: >>> DATA <<< 550 unknown user 550 5.1.1 <inkscape-devel@...6...>... User unknown <<< 503-All RCPT commands were rejected with this error: <<< 503-unknown user <<< 503 Valid RCPT command must precede DATA Reporting-MTA: dns; vinyl.outflux.net Received-From-MTA: DNS; static-50-53-76-183.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net Arrival-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:32:24 -0800 Final-Recipient: RFC822; inkscape-devel@...6... Action: failed Status: 5.1.1 Remote-MTA: DNS; mx.sourceforge.net Diagnostic-Code: SMTP; 550 unknown user Last-Attempt-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:32:41 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 11:32:14 -0800 From: Bryce Harrington <bryce@...961...> To: Eduard Braun <eduard.braun2@...173...> Cc: inkscape-devel@...6..., Ryan Gorley <ryan@...3508...>, Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...>, the Adib <theadib@...400...>, David Evans <devans@...2376...>, Tim Sheridan <tghs@...3462...>, Ted Gould <ted@...11...>, mrdocs <mrdocs@...715...>, Gord Caswell <ve4jhj@...400...> On Sun, Mar 04, 2018 at 01:51:36PM +0100, Eduard Braun wrote: > Am 04.03.2018 um 06:01 schrieb Bryce Harrington: > >The 0.92.3pre0 pre-release source tarball is ready for packaging. It > >can be downloaded from: > > > > http://alpha.inkscape.org/releases/inkscape-0.92.3pre0.tar.bz2 > > > >The 0.92.x branch should now be considered in Hard Freeze + String Freeze. > >Please touch base with me for any changes to code or translations from > >now until release. > > > >--- > > > >I'm late as usual with cutting the release, but other than that things > >have gone smoothly. I would very much appreciate if people could build > >and test and give me a thumbs up if everything looks normal. If no > >serious issues crop up I will cut the final release next weekend. > > > >Bryce > > Thanks Bryce! > > As you did not publish a schedule this time you're probably only late > according to your own private schedule - If you hadn't mentioned it nobody > would have noticed. ;-) True. :-) > Windows binaries and installers are available at [1] (64-bit) and [2] > (32-bit). > Do you want them on the website Bryce? (I noticed you uploaded the tarball > to alpha.inkscape.org -- do we even want to add a release to the releases > app on the website for the pre-release then? I think it can only consume > gallery items...) Yes, still upload the end-user downloadable content to the website. We have mirroring and caching set up there. Feel free to also copy the source tarball to the website. Going forward, I'm going to stage the source tarballs on alpha. It makes the dist machinery cleaner and more easily automated it can just scp the files up directly to the webserver. And if I need to re-upload the tarball I can do it without needing to rename it, which has been a problem in the past. I don't think we have any particular bandwidth limits for alpha, but for stuff we know is going to get tons of hits probably best if we have it going through Fastly. Bryce > [1] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_PRE… > [2] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_PRE… > > Regards, > Eduard ----- End forwarded message -----

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Testing
by Bryce Harrington 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

Sourceforge has been broken much of the week, but their twitter claims it's back online. Checking to see if our lists work once again... Bryce

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] inkscape-0.92.3pre0 source tarball now available
by Eduard Braun 04 Mar '18

04 Mar '18

Am 04.03.2018 um 06:01 schrieb Bryce Harrington: > The 0.92.3pre0 pre-release source tarball is ready for packaging. It > can be downloaded from: > > http://alpha.inkscape.org/releases/inkscape-0.92.3pre0.tar.bz2 > > The 0.92.x branch should now be considered in Hard Freeze + String Freeze. > Please touch base with me for any changes to code or translations from > now until release. > > --- > > I'm late as usual with cutting the release, but other than that things > have gone smoothly. I would very much appreciate if people could build > and test and give me a thumbs up if everything looks normal. If no > serious issues crop up I will cut the final release next weekend. > > Bryce Thanks Bryce! As you did not publish a schedule this time you're probably only late according to your own private schedule - If you hadn't mentioned it nobody would have noticed. ;-) Windows binaries and installers are available at [1] (64-bit) and [2] (32-bit). Do you want them on the website Bryce? (I noticed you uploaded the tarball to alpha.inkscape.org -- do we even want to add a release to the releases app on the website for the pre-release then? I think it can only consume gallery items...) [1] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_PRE… [2] https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/INKSCAPE_0_92_3_PRE… Regards, Eduard

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wiki account
by Jan 03 Mar '18

03 Mar '18

hi I need a wiki account to enhance a few articles.

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(re-)Introducing: ink/stitch, machine embroidery for Inkscape
by Lex Neva 02 Mar '18

02 Mar '18

Hi folks! I'd like to reintroduce you to ink/stitch, formerly known as inkscape-embroidery. A lot has happened in the past couple of months, and we now have a thriving and growing open source community around the extension! The coolest new thing is that ink/stitch is available is a self-contained ZIP containing every Python dependency and all needed shared libraries. There's also a Windows version and a Mac build is in the works. I think you folks might be especially interested in our solution for creating the ZIP/tarball archive. We're using the excellent Pyinstaller, which seems especially well-suited to packaging inkscape extensions. Our goal is to avoid the kind of dependency hell that normally plagues extensions, especially those like ink/stitch that have their own GUI. Pyinstaller packages everything into a native executable. Interestingly, inkscape does not support native executables as extensions and requires an interpreter! We get around this by including a basic stub Python script that executes the real extension binary and forwards the results back to inkscape. Another interesting tidbit for inkscape devs is our localization support. Ink/stitch is currently available in three languages, but the INX is not yet localized. This is because inkscape's localization support for INX files depends on the extension translations being bundled with inkscape. This obviously doesn't work for an extension with a fast release cycle. We're exploring our options. We'd love it if you'd check out project it and perhaps even give it a spin. If you're interested in contributing, that'd be even cooler! Right now, more folks with programming skills would be especially helpful as we have a long feature request backlog, but any contributions would be awesome. Here's ink/stitch: https://github.com/lexelby/inkstitch Happy hacking, Lex On March 1, 2018 7:41:07 AM inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Send Inkscape-devel mailing list submissions to > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > inkscape-devel-owner(a)lists.sourceforge.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Inkscape-devel digest..." > > > > ---------- > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Wacom smartpad support - request for ideas (Martin Owens) > > > > ---------- > Re: [Inkscape-devel] Wacom smartpad support - request for ideas > From: Martin Owens <doctormo@...400...> > Date: Feb 28, 9:39 PM > To: Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@...3641...> > CC: inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net, Benjamin Tissoires > <benjamin.tissoires@...400...> > > >> > I'm sorely tempted to buy one of these things to hack on it to be >> > honest. >> if you do, buy a folio. we don't know if that works yet :) > > OK I got the small folio, got a friendly discount at B&H so only $120. > >> our file format atm is just a json file with the raw data >> (x/y/pressure in >> arrays that are the strokes). we can produce whatever we want from >> that. I >> hear the mp3 patent has expired ;) > > Unfortunatly inkscape doesn't support mp3s ;-P > > Martin, > > > > > > ---------- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > ---------- > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-devel mailing list > Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel >

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Hackfest in Three and a bit weeks
by Martin Owens 01 Mar '18

01 Mar '18

Dear developers, The 2018 Inkscape hackfest will begin in three weeks. If you are coming, please add your name to the Attendees page right away: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Hackfest2018_Attendees I'm hoping that both Alex Valavanis and Krzysztof can come to the hackfest and we hopefully will resolve anything to do with funding at the meeting tomorrow. If you think you might come, but aren't sure yet, please add yourself with a MAYBE tag to the list, so I know if the even is going to be as small as it looks like it's going to be. Thanks everyone! Best Regards, Martin Owens

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