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[Fwd: Gideon: the gui designer]
by Joshua A. Andler 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

This just popped up on the gtkmm list and I figured I'd forward it on as it may have some potential... (note that I haven't tried it yet) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Gideon: the gui designer Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 21:08:35 +0400 From: Maxim Udushlivy <maxim.udushlivy@...400...> To: gtkmm-list@...45... Hello, everybody! This is an announcement for those, who may want to try a new designer targeted specificaly to gtkmm. It was about one year under development. This is the first public beta release. Project blog: http://gideon-designer.blogspot.com Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/gideon-designer Download: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gideon Maxim Udushlivy _______________________________________________ gtkmm-list mailing list gtkmm-list@...45... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtkmm-list

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Inkscape 0.43pre1
by Ted Gould 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

The second prerelease of Inkscape 0.43 has been released. It now includes the whiteboard files and other fixes. Getting closer, does it still work for you? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93438&package_id=9911… MD5 Sums: 079bc5edd4825700563c99a1f9614209 inkscape-0.42+0.43pre1.tar.bz2 e3388ad06db510e28e7a1f50d8b78c34 inkscape-0.42+0.43pre1.tar.bz2.sig 6f3ddb62c151483c6e283c9e71373095 inkscape-0.42+0.43pre1.tar.gz 25fd3cfa6982fb22ba8abad0b2d12dd9 inkscape-0.42+0.43pre1.tar.gz.sig --Ted

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transform dialog image
by bulia byak 26 Oct '05

26 Oct '05

I've just commented out the image (rendered from SVG) in the Transform tab of the Transform dialog because it was blowing up the size of the dialog really badly and refused to be squeezed. I remember that before, it was squeezable, but something broke. Frankly I don't see any useful information in it, so I just killed it instead of fixing; feel free to fix properly if you disagree. I know we're in a freeze, but this is cosmetic, and I felt this needs to be fixed for the release somehow. -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Re: Inkscape-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 850492
by Steven P. Ulrick 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:45:32 -0700 inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net wrote: > Inkscape-devel -- confirmation of subscription -- request 850492 > > We have received a request from 12.203.241.111 for subscription of > your email address, <lists@...1052...>, to the > inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net mailing list. To confirm the > request, please send a message to > inkscape-devel-request(a)lists.sourceforge.net, and either: > > - maintain the subject line as is (the reply's additional "Re:" is > ok), > > - or include the following line - and only the following line - in the > message body: > > confirm 850492 > > (Simply sending a 'reply' to this message should work from most email > interfaces, since that usually leaves the subject line in the right > form.) > > If you do not wish to subscribe to this list, please simply disregard > this message. Send questions to > inkscape-devel-admin@...460...

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color selector
by Néstor Díaz 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

Dear Inkscape Developers: First of all, thanks for such a great design program. We use it in a daily basis in a proffesional enviroment for our work. A few years ago, before Inkscape were born, I was more involved in the UI design of Sodipodi. This weekend, tidying up a bit my folders, I found this idea for Sodipodi, and I think is still a nice dialog revamp for Inkscape, so I decided to send it to you in case it serves for something else than wasting diskspace. It's a mock up based upon the Gimp brushes dialog. It has also some of Illustrator "way of design". The point is I have my swatches in my color palette where I can rename and edit them with the appropiate button. The solid, line gradient, elliptical gradient and tile gradient are just a categorization but in fact I could have all swatches I'm using in the same window (adding a [View all] button). Let's explain this further. When I need to add a swatch (plain, gradient or tile) no color or the default color is asigned to the new object. Then I select the swatch and either duplicate or edit the color in a similar dialog as actual Inkscape dialog. Also, we could have the edit swatch dialog tabbed in the one I present or attached etc. In fact, is a waste of space to have two identical tabs for doing exactly the same function, which is editing swatches or colors: the fill and the border tabs. I propose to have as a first tab the one in my mockup, the second one the editing colors one an the third one the stroke style, witdth etc one. Of course, another control to switch between fill mode or border mode should be necessary for the new tab, which could be very similar to the Gimps one (background/foreground colors). A kind of law?: Choosing a property, style or color shouldn't be in the same area of Editing that very property, style or color. It drives to errors when accidentally move a slider or change something with a slight click or the mouse wheel. Asigning a property should be in it's own area/tab/dialog and editing should be separate from it. If somebody wants me to further develop this idea, more defined mockups and actions story board, etc. (I'm sorry I can't code): Just ask me as I'm willing to improve Inkscape UI and productivity in this matter. Yours: Néstor Díaz

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SVG standards and Sodipodi cruft
by Alan Horkan 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

There has been a user complaining in several reports in the bug tracker about the Inkscape SVG giving away more information than he would like and the Plain SVG not including as much information as needed and I think it raises various questions. How plain should Plain SVG be? Should it include metadata? (Based on SVG having a metadata tag I think it probably should include some form of metadata) Inkscape has as a stated goal conforming closely to the SVG specificiation but inlcudes a whole lot of information in the Sodipodi and Inkscape namespace. The stock response is this someone helps compatability with Sodipodi but is this really true anymore? Surely some of it like including the sodipodi version number is just as likely to confuse the matter? The old sodipodi docbase attribute seem like it could have been useful to avoid link breakage if a the drawing file has been moved around. Is this actually doing anything useful? Users have expressed privacy concerns as it effectively embeds the path to their homedirectory including username in every document. It seems there must be a way to express a lot more of the old sodipodi metadata using SVG (or Dublin Core or other parts of XMP we are already using). If the old timers ;) could clarify if any of this cruft is useful anymore it would make it easier to write clear bug reports and break into much smaller parts which bits might be replaced (hopefully making the same information available in Plain SVG where possible). Given the importance of the OpenDocument standard and how they are essentially using their XML namespaces to fill out gaps not covered by SVG might it be better to include their namespaces rather than adding any more to the Inkscape (or Sodipodi) namespace? I hope people can clarify what old bits are still needed and what could potentially be cleaned up and replaced with standard SVG. With a bit more information hopefully I will be able to add useful comments to bug reports and perhaps add some goals for clearing out the old non-standard cruft somewhere on the Roadmap. Sincerely Alan Horkan Inkscape http://inkscape.org Abiword http://www.abisource.com Dia http://gnome.org/projects/dia/ Open Clip Art http://OpenClipArt.org Alan's Diary http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Inkscape 0.43pre1
by Ted Gould 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

Lucas Vieites wrote: > there still are several translation updates pending in the tracker. > Could these be included in cvs before final release? Yeah, I don't see any reason why not. Does anyone know a reason that the translations aren't checked in? (besides lack of time :) Can I just check them all in? --Ted

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Inkscape 0.43pre1
by Ralf Stephan 25 Oct '05

25 Oct '05

desktop.cpp:83:47: error: jabber_whiteboard/session-manager.h: No such file or directory desktop.cpp: In member function ‘void SPDesktop::init(SPNamedView*, SPCanvas*)’: desktop.cpp:297: error: invalid use of undefined type ‘struct Inkscape::Whiteboard::SessionManager’ desktop.h:55: error: forward declaration of ‘struct Inkscape::Whiteboard::SessionManager’ desktop.cpp: In member function ‘void SPDesktop::destroy()’: desktop.cpp:371: warning: possible problem detected in invocation of delete operator: desktop.cpp:371: warning: invalid use of undefined type ‘struct Inkscape::Whiteboard::SessionManager’ desktop.h:55: warning: forward declaration of ‘struct Inkscape::Whiteboard::SessionManager’ desktop.cpp:371: note: neither the destructor nor the class-specific operator delete will be called, even if they are declared when the class is defined. make[2]: *** [desktop.o] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2

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Translators - Calligraphy tutorial update
by Joshua A. Andler 24 Oct '05

24 Oct '05

Attached is the diff from the xml docbook file to assist translators to know what has changed. Other than added information, a number of contractions were removed to make translation a little more straightforward as well. Unfortunately I didn't get to put examples for pressure and tilt in due to tilt being funky with current gtk on win32 (and it makes sense to add the examples together). -Josh Index: calligraphy/tutorial-calligraphy.xml =================================================================== RCS file: /cvsroot/inkscape/doc-docbook/calligraphy/tutorial-calligraphy.xml,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 tutorial-calligraphy.xml --- calligraphy/tutorial-calligraphy.xml 30 Apr 2005 18:59:03 -0000 1.2 +++ calligraphy/tutorial-calligraphy.xml 24 Oct 2005 16:58:03 -0000 @@ -2,8 +2,8 @@ <chapter id="CALLIGRAPHY"> <title>Calligraphy</title> -<author>bulia byak, buliabyak@...859...</author> - +<authors>bulia byak, buliabyak@...859... and josh andler, scislac@...859...</authors> +<!-- Copyright (C) 2004-5 bulia byak, buliabyak@...859... and josh andler, scislac@...1050...> <abstract> <para> @@ -67,17 +67,34 @@ <title>Hardware</title> <para> -You'll get the best results if you use a <firstterm>tablet and pen</firstterm> -(e.g. Wacom). However, even with mouse you can do some beginning calligraphy, though you -will have difficulty producing fast sweeping strokes. +You will get the best results if you use a <firstterm>tablet and pen</firstterm> +(e.g. Wacom). Thanks to the flexibility of our tool, even those with only a mouse can do +some fairly intricate calligraphy, though there will be some difficulty producing fast +sweeping strokes. </para> <para> -Inkscape does not yet use <firstterm>pressure sensitivity</firstterm> of a tablet pen, -but that's not a problem because a traditional calligraphy pen (unlike a brush) is also -not very sensitive to pressure. Inkscape calligraphy pen can be sensitive to the -<firstterm>velocity</firstterm> of the stroke (see "Thinning" below), so if you are -using a mouse, you'll probably want to zero this parameter. +Inkscape is able to utilize <firstterm>pressure sensitivity</firstterm> and <secondterm> +tilt sensitivity</secondterm> of a tablet pen that supports these features. The sensitivity functions are disabled by +default because they require configuration. Also, keep in mind that calligraphy with a +quill or pen with nib are also not very sensitive to pressure, unlike a brush. +</para> + +<para> +If you have a tablet and would like to utilize the sensitivity features, you will need +to configure your device. This configuration will only need to be performed once and +the settings are saved. To enable this support you must have the tablet plugged in +prior to starting inkscape and then proceed to open the <firstterm>Input Devices...</firstterm> +dialog through the <emphasis>File</emphasis> menu. With this dialog open you can choose the +preferred device and settings for your tablet pen. Lastly, after choosing those settings, switch +to the Calligraphy tool and toggle the toolbar buttons for pressure and tilt. From +now on, Inkscape will remember those settings on startup. +</para> + +<para> +The Inkscape calligraphy pen can be sensitive to the <firstterm>velocity</firstterm> of +the stroke (see "Thinning" below), so if you are using a mouse, you'll probably want to +zero this parameter. </para> </sect1> @@ -85,9 +102,10 @@ <title>Calligraphy Tool Options</title> <para> -Switch to the Calligraphy tool by pressing <keycap>Ctrl+F6</keycap> or by clicking on -its toolbar button. On the top toolbar, you will notice there are 6 options: Width & -Thinning; Angle & Fixation; and Mass & Drag. +Switch to the Calligraphy tool by pressing <keycap>Ctrl+F6</keycap>, pressing the <keycap>C</keycap> +key, or by clicking on its toolbar button. On the top toolbar, you will +notice there are 6 options: Width & Thinning; Angle & Fixation; and Mass & Drag and two +buttons to toggle tablet Pressure and Tilt sensitivity on and off (for drawing tablets). </para> <figure> @@ -113,8 +131,9 @@ <para> Since pen width is changed often, you can adjust it without going to -the toolbar, using the <keycap>left</keycap> and <keycap>right</keycap> arrow keys. The best thing about -these keys is that they work while you're drawing, so you can change +the toolbar, using the <keycap>left</keycap> and <keycap>right</keycap> arrow keys or with a +tablet that supports the pressure sensitivity function. The best thing about +these keys is that they work while you are drawing, so you can change the width of your pen gradually in the middle of the stroke: </para> @@ -160,8 +179,10 @@ <para> After width, <firstterm>angle</firstterm> is the most important calligraphy -parameter. It is the angle of your pen in degrees, changing from 0 (horizontal) to 90 -(vertical counterclockwise) or to -90 (vertical clockwise): +parameter. It is the angle of your pen in degrees, changing from 0 (horizontal) to +90 (vertical counterclockwise) or to -90 (vertical clockwise). Note that if you +turn tilt sensitivity on for a tablet, the angle parameter is greyed out and +the angle is determined by the tilt of the pen. </para> <figure> @@ -175,9 +196,10 @@ Each traditional calligraphy style has its own prevalent pen angle. For example, the Unicial hand uses the angle of 25 degrees. More complex hands and more experienced calligraphers will often vary the angle while drawing, and Inkscape makes this possible -by pressing <keycap>up</keycap> and <keycap>down</keycap> arrow keys. For beginning -calligraphy lessons, however, keeping the angle constant will work best. Here are -examples of strokes drawn at different angles (fixation = 1): +by pressing <keycap>up</keycap> and <keycap>down</keycap> arrow keys or with a tablet that +supports the tilt sensitivity feature. For beginning calligraphy lessons, however, +keeping the angle constant will work best. Here are examples of strokes drawn at +different angles (fixation = 1): </para> <figure>

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About screen for 0.43
by Jon A. Cruz 23 Oct '05

23 Oct '05

I'm tracking down bug 1310742 It appears that the SVG is slightly corrupted. It looks like a chunk of the file got lost. Doing a quick restoration of "text44" (the item that appears to be picking up after the missing part), I see that it is mainly "the vector is mightier than the Bitmap", written in a script font. This problem may have been in the initial editing, or may have happened later. If anyone might have different versions laying around, can you check if they do not have this problem? The following will check for the main problem point: grep -l "preser," * If nobody has a better version (or at least for that part), then I'll just go with cutting out "text44", since it appears to be cruft anyway.

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