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Development versions
by Jabier Arraiza 01 Nov '17

01 Nov '17

Hi all. I have a request from a Grafica Libre user to get a PPA or AppImage of devel versions to start working filling bugs. Hi is focussed now in Jessyinc. Is posible create similar thing like the one for windows described a little time ago in Appveyor for Appimage to allow user coexist easy 2 inkscape versions without need install&reinstall PPA needs because same package devel and stable? This grow our testing base user and also provides people ability to test if a bug is realy fixed without need to wait the release, removing surprises. Thanks in advance, Jabier.

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Inkscape 0.92.2, win64: install additional Python modules
by Sebastian Kraft 28 Oct '17

28 Oct '17

Hi, I have written an Inkscape extension (https://github.com/seebk/LaTeXText) that requires additional python modules (PyGObject). In previous Inkscape versions on windows, I could simply install the PyGObject module into the Inkscape/[...]/python/site-packages subfolder from the official PyGObject windows builds. However, since 0.92.2 it seems that the windows build and python version changed and is incompatible to the PyGObject windows builds. What would be the recommended way to add modules to the Python distro bundled with Inkscape on windows? I tried to use the python module from msys2/mingw64 but did not succeed. The import of gi fails, it misses some DLLs. Unfortunately, the error message does not give detailed information what exactly is missing. Thanks for your help! Sebastian

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Fwd: Message from User: Inkspace Issues - AxiDraw3 (request for "paid consultant service")
by Eduard Braun 27 Oct '17

27 Oct '17

Hi all, I don't know why they particularly chose me to write this message to, maybe somebody is interested / knows somebody? Regards, Eduard -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: Message from User: Inkspace Issues - AxiDraw3 Datum: Fri, 27 Oct 2017 17:27:08 -0000 Von: webmaster@...1478... An: eduard.braun2@...173... Dear Eduard Braun, Oparix, another user of the Inkscape web site, has sent you a personal message: Inkspace Issues - AxiDraw3 ================================================ Hello, My name is Andrew and I read your bio on the Inkscape website. We're new to using Inkscape and we currently use it for pen plotting. The pen plotter we are using is called the AxiDraw3. Inkscape has been quite challenging to use at scale. We currently use Inkscape and our pen plotter to write handwritten cards. I understand that Inkscape is free but is there a paid consultant service we can use to help us streamline our business? I sincerely appreciate your time. I check my email more than I check my messages on this forum so if you could respond back at andrew@...3622... that would be incredibly appreciated. Thanks in advance! Reply: http://www.inkscape.org/en/~Oparix/message/209/ Visit Oparix's profile: http://www.inkscape.org/en/~Oparix All my messages: http://www.inkscape.org/en/alerts/ All the best, Inkscape.org Website ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Unsubscribe: If you do no longer want to receive these messages, you can edit your subscriptions and notification settings at http://www.inkscape.org/en/alerts/settings/.

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msys2 Symantec oddness for your amusement
by mathog 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Installing msys2 on a 32bit W7 machine today. Check this out: cat >helloworld.c <<'EOD' #include <stdlib.h> #include <stdio.h> void main(void){ printf("Hello World!\n"); } EOD gcc -o helloworld helloworld.c ./helloworld Hello World ldd ./helloworld ntdll.dll => /c/Windows/SYSTEM32/ntdll.dll (0x77740000) kernel32.dll => /c/Windows/system32/kernel32.dll (0x778b0000) KERNELBASE.dll => /c/Windows/system32/KERNELBASE.dll (0x75830000) SYSFER.DLL => /c/Windows/System32/SYSFER.DLL (0x754b0000) UMEngx86.dll => /c/ProgramData/Symantec/Symantec Endpoint Protection/12.1.4013.4013.105/Data/Definitions/BASHDefs/20171016.001/UMEngx86.dll (0x71c70000) msvcrt.dll => /c/Windows/system32/msvcrt.dll (0x76af0000) Hopefully that is just what it looks like in msys2 and not a real dependency for the Symantec dll in the resulting program! I cannot really tell right now because all the PCs near me have the same Symantec program on them, so they have that dll. msys2 is a lot more like Cygwin than mingw2. The latter was a really light development platform, msys2 has everything including the kitchen sink. Regards, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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Confusing windows build instructions
by mathog 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Hi all, Today while perusing the varied Windows build instructions I was struck by some contradictory, or at least, not fully fleshed out text. For instance, it says here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Compiling_Inkscape_on_Windows Warning: As our 32-bit development libraries (devlibs) currently do not offer GTK+ 3 (which is required by trunk) you have to follow the instructions for 64-bit builds or use MSYS2 if you want to compile the latest code (lp:inkscape)! Is "lp:inkscape" the name on github too? The Msys2 page says here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Compiling_Inkscape_on_Windows_with_… nothing about devlibs. Presumably it doesn't need them anymore and msys2installdeps.sh takes care of it? Never having used Msys2 it isn't entirely clear what the "gtk3" install (for instance) is. If there is no devlib for gtk3, what is this? More like a cygwin library? The 64 bit build page says here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Compiling_Inkscape_on_Windows_64-bit in several places to use "mingw32-make". No explanation why 32 and not 64. Somehow related to "win32 threading model and SEH exception handling"? Finally the visual studio page says here: http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Using_Visual_Studio "Follow all steps of guide Compiling Inkscape on Windows." At that point one has a fully compiled and working Inkscape. Why bother with Visual Studio? For the IDE? Is there a discussion in the wiki somewhere about other IDEs, like CODE::BLOCKS or Eclipse? Do any of these give instructions for packing up the built Inkscape so that it can be given to somebody else, like in a zip file? As I recall there are a bunch of dll's that need to be copied into the Inkscape folder from other locations (devlibs/bin, mostly). That was for an Inkscape built with mingw and msys and devlibs. What about Msys2 and whatever it is using for libraries? Can you just copy over whatever it has for devlib equivalents or are there Msys2 core libraries which must come too (like when distributing a cygwin binary)? Regards, David Mathog mathog@...1176... Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] [Inkscape-docs] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape'
by brynn 26 Oct '17

26 Oct '17

Hi Reidar, Thank you for your comments. Anyone is welcome to share their comments. It's not an interruption - it's what I was asking for :-) I agree about integrity. I really would like the gallery to have only Inkscape images. But considering this post was answered by only 2 people, I guess the community isn't very concerned. So I probably won't change much, if anything, about the way I handle these images. If we start to run short of space for the gallery, maybe we would want to revisit this. But for now, it doesn't sound like the community is concerned about this. Thanks again for your comments! All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Reidar Vik Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:52 PM To: brynn Cc: C R ; Inkscape-Devel ; Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape' @brynn, I agree about what you said about images. It is fairest and most honest to only use images made with inkscape. Integrity is very important in this game. (I hope I didn´t interrupt the discussion) Vennleg helsing Reidar Vik Trostereiret Vik org.nr. 912 333 485 trostereiretvik.blogspot.com https://twitter.com/Trostereiret 2017-10-22 20:09 GMT+02:00 brynn <brynn@...3133...>: Thanks for your comments, C R. Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape. Well of course, that's not what I'm proposing. For the image I did search, there was no scouring. It was the first result of the first search I made. It was clear enough for me just to look at the image. But I searched it out just to prove my suspicion. (It's the only time I've done that.) For the rest of your comments, I had the very same thoughts at first. If it could have been....why not. But the reason I wanted to try to discuss, is because (a) These images are numerous, considering our limited space. (b) Most of them could really only be done by advanced users (That's usually how I catch them. If they really had been made with Inkscape, in my experience, the artist wants to shout it out - not make a drive-by upload.) (c) I'm afraid it's misrepresenting Inkscape's abilities. I'm afraid it gives the impression that it must be easy to create amazing images. (d) It makes it harder to find the really awesome Inkscape-made images. It kind of dilutes the pool of awesome. I really have always (well, since I found Inkscape 10 years ago) wanted an Inkscape-only gallery. To me, THAT would be amazing! And to me, that's what the website should provide. I wonder if it would work to have another category, or another Order By option, like All Inkscape or 100% Inkscape, or something like that? Because I certainly have no objection to having images in the gallery, for which Inkscape was used only for part of it. But maybe it would be nice to have the "all Inkscape" images easier to find? Well anyway, as I said, I already had an idea that this isn't a big concern for the community. But I just wanted to voice a few thoughts as to why maybe it should be. Thanks again :-) brynn -----Original Message----- From: C R Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:33 AM To: brynn Cc: Inkscape-Docs ; Inkscape-Devel Subject: Re: [Inkscape-devel] moderation - 'could have been made w/Inkscape' Re: Time as a resource: I think it's not worth anyone's time to scour the internet trying to prove that something wasn't made in Inkscape. I can think of several ways to do the graphic in question (or at least similar) in Inkscape, so I'd let it stay as it's actually quite stunning and not really hurting anyone. Even if it's not done in Inkscape, it gets people thinking about how it could be done in Inkscape, which is not a bad thing. Maybe it will inspire someone to post a vector resource of it in the future. Going forward, this is my recommendation: If it looks like it could have been done in Inkscape, and it was posted on our website, then we can assume (for the sake of aesthetics) that it was. Obviously if the uploader came back and replied to your comment, saying "Oh, I've not done this in Inkscape." Then you can remove it without having to make any guesses. :) Thanks for bringing it to attention, Brynn. Your hard work to fight against random non-Inkscape posts is definitely making the site much more usable and clutter free for everyone. -C On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 5:29 AM, brynn <brynn@...3133...> wrote: Hi Friends, I think I probably know how the community leans on this. But since it bothers me so much, and happens so often, I thought it was worth not assuming the answer, and finding out for sure. A few months ago, we decided not to allow random photos in the gallery, which are unrelated to the project in any way. We also decided not to bother with copyright issues. (long discussion - https://sourceforge.net/p/inkscape/mailman/message/35798617/) Probably equally as often as random photos being uploaded, are images which *could have been made with Inkscape* but which I doubt were. So far, I've been letting these go through. But as I said, I wanted to have a discussion, rather than assume. Here are a couple of recent examples: -- 2 images, 1 resource and 1 thumbnail -- https://inkscape.org/en/~noahgabe@...3618.../%E2%98%85music -- https://inkscape.org/en/~KristiBryant113/%E2%98%85jesus-saves-the-world2 (I did a little research on this one, and found it at many different sites (many on different sites selling tshirts, as well as just web images) with the same basic image (and this exact image here: https://res.cloudinary.com/teepublic/image/private/s--rVeDm8Gt--/t_Preview/…) -- so I'm pretty sure it wasn't made with Inkscape) --https://inkscape.org/en/~chiquitita/%E2%98%8515230751-703016283207581-8475381764676214363-n To me, all of those /could have been/ made with Inkscape. But I have reasons to doubt all of them. How do you all think they should be handled? I think they should be handled similarly to random photos (contact the member, explain and link to CoC, ask to explain the relation to Inkscape, ask if they would like to remove, inform after 2 weeks we will do it, of course with graciousness. Or do we let them have the benefit of our doubt? I honestly don't understand why people go around posting random images (apparently, afaict) in random galleries, once or twice, and never come back. (I have the same curiosity about people who post 1 or 2 frivolous, sometimes meaningless messages in forums and never return.) But it seems worth the effort not to waste our limited resource on hosting these things. Anyway, thanks for any thoughts or comments :-) All best, brynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-devel mailing list Inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

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Should Inkscape use fonts from folder of currently opened SVG?
by Eduard Braun 25 Oct '17

25 Oct '17

Hi all, I'm currently implementing functionality which allows Inkscape to use fonts *not* installed on the system [1]. * Suppport for loading fonts from share/inkscape/fonts as well as the fonts dir in Inkscape's configuration directory is already added. * Support for custom locations configurable by the user is provided, too. * One task is left: load fonts from the location of the currently opened SVG document While the last point could be especially interesting (e.g. it would allow people to simply distribute fonts required by an SVG alongside with it) it's also a bit tricky: fontconfig scans directories recursively. This means if the user were to open an SVG file somewhere at the top of the directory tree, fontconfig suddenly would scan *a lot* of directories for fonts. So I basically want to collect some opinions: * Do you think this would be acceptable? In that case I'd probably implement a boolean setting which defaults to false and explains the risks. * Could it make sense to rephrase the task a bit to "load fonts from the 'fonts' directory in the folder of the currently opened SVG"? It might be an option to offer this functionality while reducing the risk of indexing a large amount directories, however discoverability of the feature would be significantly reduced. * Should I just skip the last task? * Other ideas? Let me know what you think! Best Regards, Eduard [1] https://gitlab.com/inkscape/inkscape/merge_requests/102

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Convert to path on use/clones
by Jabier Arraiza 24 Oct '17

24 Oct '17

Hi all. I want to start a discussion to make convert to paths function and also the stroke to paths works on use/clone elements. The question: Is a good idea? To me is the expected result from a user point of view... Cheers, Jabier.

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Development versions for Windows available on a regular basis via AppVeyor
by alvinpenner 24 Oct '17

24 Oct '17

Just found out about this, so I'm re-posting this notice, slightly edited: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=32932#p100877 Development versions of Inkscape for Windows (currently for 0.92.x branch and for master branch (formerly called 'trunk') ) are now automatically created on every change to the code base. They can be found at https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/history Click on the title of the build you want to test, i.e. a URL that goes like: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/master-606 or https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/0.92.x-607 On the next page, below 'Job Name', select if you want the 32 or 64 bit version (Environment: MSYSTEM=MINGW32 or Environment: MSYSTEM=MINGW64). On the next page, click on 'Artifacts' (at the right, right above the terminal-like box). On the next page, download a 7z file. (If necessary, you may need to install the 7z decruncher, from http://www.7-zip.org/) ................... For Ubuntu, there's https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/ubuntu/trunk (0.93 devel series) and https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily (0.92.x series) -- Sent from: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Inkscape-Dev-f2781808.html

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Development versions for Windows available on a regular basis via AppVeyor
by alvinpenner 24 Oct '17

24 Oct '17

Just found out about this, so I'm re-posting this notice, slightly edited: http://www.inkscapeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=32932#p100877 Development versions of Inkscape for Windows (currently for 0.92.x branch and for master branch (formerly called 'trunk') ) are now automatically created on every change to the code base. They can be found at https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/history Click on the title of the build you want to test, i.e. a URL that goes like: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/master-606 or https://ci.appveyor.com/project/inkscape/inkscape/build/0.92.x-607 On the next page, below 'Job Name', select if you want the 32 or 64 bit version (Environment: MSYSTEM=MINGW32 or Environment: MSYSTEM=MINGW64). On the next page, click on 'Artifacts' (at the right, right above the terminal-like box). On the next page, download a 7z file. (If necessary, you may need to install the 7z decruncher, from http://www.7-zip.org/) ................... For Ubuntu, there's https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/ubuntu/trunk (0.93 devel series) and https://launchpad.net/~inkscape.dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable-daily (0.92.x series) -- Sent from: http://inkscape.13.x6.nabble.com/Inkscape-Dev-f2781808.html

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