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by Bryce Harrington 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hi Douglas, Thanks for the info, I'm passing it along to the list. One of the differences between Inkscape and commercial applications like Quark and Adobe Illustrator is that many of our extensions come from external contributors, and thus there can be some implementational variability from one to the next. For instance, we allow them to be written in a variety of different scripting languages. This is a strength from the standpoint of allowing us to incorporate a lot of creative new features, but of course also has the weakness that we cannot enforce the same level of standardization that commercial development companies can. However, we have recognized that we definitely need to work in improving the way extensions work, and are hoping to focus on making them better and easier to add in over the next several months, so your input here is quite relevant, thanks! Bryce ----- Forwarded message from Douglas Neale <dneale@...936...> ----- Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:32:45 +0100 From: Douglas Neale <dneale@...936...> To: bryce@...1... Subject: Inkscape Hi Bryce, As there isn't a 'suggestions' link on the site and you are top of the 'hero' list, you are getting this email. First of all, congratulations on what seems to be an awesome product. I picked up a reference to it this morning on the Adobe forum posting and immediately downloaded it and checked it out under XP. Will do the Mac OSX check tomorrow. I have a small suggestion for you to pass on (or ignore if you wish) which relates to the discussion on extension architecture. Firstly, let me explain that I write Quark Xtensions and that Quark provide a fairly robust procedure when starting up so that Xtensions are handled properly. >From the perspective of the Xtension code you first try to login with a unique code (normally the developer ID+ a fourth letter) and if you get back an error code you shut down the Xtension, after displaying an optional error message quoting the error code received. >From the perspective of the user, there is a Xtension Manager item on the Utilities Menu which lists all Xtensions, loaded or not, which can be individually 'examined' to show some detail of each. Each Xtension is written in C and compiled as a DLL and is just dropped into the Xtension folder alongside all its fellow Xtensions. Any other installation requirements do not concern Quark and can be handled any way you choose. Quark supply a header file and a library file of all their internal functions which are visible to the Xtension developer. Needless to say, there are several thousand functions in that library. Adobe do an almost identical thing, except that their Plugins are written in C++. I am not advocating that you adopt the Quark/Adobe solution in toto, I am just pointing out that the management of plugins is important and can thus influence the choice of architecture. The clashing of mutually incompatible plugins trying to use the same resources can be a real pain. Regards, Douglas Neale ----- End forwarded message -----

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Getting involved
by Tarjei Knapstad 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

> > Bryce, are you going to update the roadmap? > Yes. It would be nice if someone could go through and mark all the > completed stuff done, and/or delete tasks that are no longer needed. > > I"m also hoping to continue working on the test system and continuing > the gtkmm work on SPView over the next few months. I"m also playing > with Cairo a bit, but only experimentally. Hi! I've had an eye on Inkscape for some time now as an interesting project that I might want to get involved in. As I've started to get some more time on my hands lately, I guess now might be a good time to jump in :) I've got about 6 years of C++ inexperience (the last 4 professionally) and I've done quite a bit of UI code (gtkmm in the beginning, but Qt for the past 4 years). I've got some comments/questions first though, related to the quoted text above: - An updated roadmap/tasklist would be very nice, looking forward to that. - I'd be interested in helping out with the Gtkmm work, so I'm curious about the state of affairs in that department. Does the current gtkmm stuff live in a separate branch in CVS? I've done some gtkmm/libsigc++ code in the past (will have to read up on the API's again :)). I'll read through the Rearchitecture discussion in the Wiki later tonight to try to get a better understanding of where you're headed (are these documents fairly up to date btw?). - Cairo is something else I'm interested in, but I'm guessing this is a bit further down the road? - It would be nice to have faster rendering of the documents under windows (I think I read a bug report on this). Is there any interest in profiling and optimising the current code, or is the move to Cairo as a vector drawing backend meant to take care of this so that it would just be a waste of time? In any case, I'll start out with familiarising myself with the current codebase first. If any of you current developers have any small/minor tasks I could get my feet wet in that would be great (speaking of which: is the InkscapeJanitors page in the Wiki still valid?) Cheers, -- Tarjei Knapstad

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svgslice: guide vs. rect methods?
by Lee Braiden 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

The previous version I did of svgslice allowed slicing by drawing rectangular areas to slice, AND slicing by the use of guides. The guides are quite inflexible, though, and and became largely obsolete when the rectangle-based method was done. Rectangles allow overlapping areas, and specifying things like the slice name in the rectangle's properties. Eventually, it could allow things like setting the output format for that slice, and its compression level, etc. Guides *are* a bit faster for simple stuff like just slicing an image into two halves. But I'm a little concerned about the confusion for users of having two separate methods, etc. Would anyone miss the guide-based method if I left it out and focused on the more flexible method? As long as you can snap rectangles to a grid, it shouldn't be too different. -- Lee Braiden http://www.DigitalUnleashed.com

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EPS import [was : Re: [Inkscape-user] Inkscape for windows]
by Alexandre Prokoudine 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

On 7/29/05, Ted Gould <ted@...11...> wrote: > EPS is kinda a hack, you'll need ghostscript, pstoedit and sketch to be > able to get the EPS import working. Btw, I don't understand why people think that it's a good idea to borrow pdf exporting code from Scribus and do not mention very nice EPS importing code in the same Scribus ;) Alexandre

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dependency graphs in doc/ proposal
by Ralf Stephan 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Hello, I have placed a section about code modules at the bottom of http://www.inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?DeveloperManual containing links to ten dependency graphs which are IMHO quite interesting when mutually compared. If you agree they should be in the distribution doc/ directory, please speak up, and I'll commit them. ralf

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Re: [Inkscape-user] stroke stroking stroke
by unknown＠example.com 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Quoting bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...>: > Argh. I fixed that bug yesterday in CVS. Sorry it was my mistake. Should we wait a week or so (in case any other issues show up) and do a paper bag release (0.42.1) which patches them? -mental

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request cvs access
by Adib Taraben 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Bryce, I would like to have cvs access in order to quickly tweak something on the win32 installer. My sf ID is theadib Thanks, Adib.

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Dynamically changing SVGView
by De Winne, Joris 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Hello, First of all, congratulations with the 0.42 release. I'll install it today or tomorow. I'm working on Inkscape to create an SVGViewer. Now I've seen in Inkscape that when I add in the user interface a rectangle, this rectangle is automatically added into the xml representation and also rendered. I would like to do the same, but with more complex structures. To give an example: I'm listening on a socket and on that socket I can receive structures in the form: <svg> <rect .... /> <rect .... /> <rect .... /> <rect .... /> .... </svg> Those structures I want to add to my SPDocument and render them automatically without recreating a new SPDocument. Does somebody know where I can find the code that is adding the rectangle in the Inkscape User Interface to the xml file and automatically renders the rectangle? Any help is always welcome. Joris - - - - - - - DISCLAIMER - - - - - - - - Unless indicated otherwise, the information contained in this message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Furthermore, the company does not warrant a proper and complete transmission of this information, nor does it accept liability for any delays. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. Thank you.

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justify text
by Jon Phillips 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Bulia and Cyreve, What will it take to get justified alignment working? Man, I wish I knew what you guys are working on...you guys are like submarines with your ideas...Maybe you could both outline your plans and what you are working on and that way others might also help out. But whatever, you guys have a style of working down that works, so I don't want to break that. ;) Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org)

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OSX not starting?
by bulia byak 28 Jul '05

28 Jul '05

Many OSX people on Slashdot complain that Inkscape does not start for them, just hangs and shows nothing. Does anyone have an idea what's going on? Here's the bug: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1245978&group_id=9… -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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