I apologize that I haven't replied to your messages about your
tutorials, before now. I did bookmark your tutorials, and have it on my
to-do list, to read them.
I keep a kind of centralized list of links to all the best Inkscape
tutorials that I know about, on my website, Inkscape Community
(http://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php). Roughly twice yearly I
update the page, adding any new tutorials I find, and removing ones that
have gone missing. So once I have a chance to read yours, I'll add them on.
Eventually I hope to contact all the authors, and suggest that they
could upload their tutorials to the gallery on the Inkscape website, using
the Tutorial category. But that will probably be some months away, since I
have some other projects working right now.
Anyway, you would be more than welcome to register on the website
(if you haven't already) and either post your tutorials there, or make a
link to them. Unfortunately, the way this website feature is made, there is
no way to have working links in the tutorials, because the tutorials have to
be in the form of a raster image. They *could* be SVG (except that there's
a slight display problem, if you view with IE, which is a problem with IE,
as far as I understand). There has been some talk of having tutorials in
the form of html, in addition to those in the form of images, but anything
more than the idea is not certain at this time.
Unfortunately in projects like Inkscape, just like in life, there
are occasionally miscommunications, or misunderstandings, or even
personality conflicts. Sometimes people simply lose their patience. All of
these things are part of being human :-) In any case both of the parties
involved have taken the appropriate action, by notifying the board, and
ceasing communication until the problem can be mediated (assuming they both
desire for it to be mediated). Hopefully it will just be a bump in the road
for them, and they can work things out, and continue to contribute to the
Inkscape project. :-) (I think the best thing we can do, is to give them
the space to work it out, while we continue with our own projects.)
Well anyway, I'm looking forward to reading your tutorials. I had a
quick glance, but they deserve more time. Thanks for providing them for the
From: "Sylvain Chiron" <chironsylvain@...102...>
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 9:51 AM
Cc: "Brynn" <brynn@...78...>
Subject: Re: Tutorial 4 done
> Hi Roy,
> Le 05/09/2016 à 17:09, bandura1@...114... a écrit :
>> I just want to let you know that
>> Tutorial 4 in my series of tutorials is up on Github. Copyright is put
>> on, W3C Validator is happy, and so am I.
> Yes, I saw your message to inkscape-docs. It's nice to see that you have
> fun with the program and are eager to provide some resource in return.
>> I'll be taking a break from
>> writing for a couple of weeks before I start again.
> Well, I'm not personally interested in your tutorials (unless I want to
> improve with Inkscape myself, but I don't have such needs currently). If
> you want them to be used by the community, I suggest you talk with some
> ‘community managers’ of the project, e.g. Brynn (here cc'ed) as she owns
> inkscapecommunity.com and interacts with many people around the project.
> Currently, my role within the project is to translate into French what
> has to be translated, and to improve what I can, remove glitches, make
> documentation better — I'm not in contact with many people in the
> project (actually, I often enjoy loneliness — ;) —).
> Maybe Brynn will say you should open a thread in her forum to lead
> people to it and get feedback.
>> I'm dismayed to learn
>> about the bump in the road with Ugajin. I guess accidents happen. I
>> things can be fixed.
> Yes… It seems that this guy wrote the page without much help, and didn't
> like the way the webmaster talked to him after that. I don't have more
> information; since his message, I've wondered what I should do! I didn't
> get any explanation from Martin or anybody.
> I hope we'll benefit of this ‘social’ experience. I mainly talk with
> Maren and Martin, I already had my opinion about the too-many-thanks I
> felt from the first and the kind of ‘unshaved hacker’ Martin could be.
> My behavior within the community is closer than Maren's one, I think.
I have just finished putting Chapter 4 of my tutorial together. It is now
Copyright notice is in place, W3C validation is good, enjoy in good health.
Best wishes to all,
I was just looking at a new exension that's been uploaded to the
How did he make the outside link, when you click on the image? All
the other extensions that I've looked at, when you click on the image,
either you're offered the file (usually zip file) to be downloaded or you
see the full size image. I mean, I realize that the link goes to his site,
where the file can be downloaded. I just can't figure out how he made that
Nothing urgent. Just curious :-)
You are not as disappointed as I am with you. Irregular is right.
How dare you speak to me this way. You were clearly told, before you went ahead and made the page live, that I did not have a working picture plugin. I am not responsible if you do not provide the tools needed to upload image files. It was and/or ought to have been clear to anyone with eyes to see, that the test page relied on external links, and you were directed to this fact.
Further, I did not ask you to download files from my web-site. In fact you downloaded the said files without asking, and without my consent. Is this how you generally behave, and treat artists? If so, shame on you, and shame on you for doing it to me. I provided links to those resources only, and not the resources themselves, Inkscape have no claim on them, or right to host those image files. Please remove them, and please refer this matter to the Board.
It seems to me, it was a very small thing indeed, especially in the circumstances to ask that someone replace dirty files with clean ones, not least because I did not have the tools, and/or permissions to replace them at that time. We were so close to getting the thing right, and your hostile reaction is totally innapropriate. I have put a lot of hard work into this project, and I have had few thanks for doing so. As a reward for my effort, you have taken artwork which does not belong to you, and in addition you removed my editor priviledges. I cannot trust, or work with you again.
Whatever your problem is, it should be with yourself with who you are disappointed, and to be treated and spoken too, by you in this way, is wholly unacceptable. Thanks to you, I have deleted, the guides, and viewBox extension files from my resources directory. I am more dissapointed than you can possiblt know, or imagine, and you can of course file your own bug report.
I will not be the assignee for the 'No page for vectors vs. Bitmaps' bug, thank you.
---- On Fri, 02 Sep 2016 16:23:22 +0000 Martin Owens <doctormo@...2...> wrote ----
@ugajin - The files you provided on the page were published as live.
I'm disappointed that you have come back to me now, after the publish
time, to tell me the graphics were not the final versions.
This is highly irregular and I will not change the files at this time.
When we come back to this page in the future, we can update the
graphics. But I have committed the page in it's current state and with
that I complete this long bug report as Fixed Released. Please open
another bug report to update the graphics.
Maren if you need to track the svg picture plugin issue, or a bug report
to make our own plugin, please go ahead.
** Changed in: inkscape-web
Importance: Undecided => Low
** Changed in: inkscape-web
Status: New => Fix Released
** Changed in: inkscape-web
Assignee: (unassigned) => rant (ugajin)
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