January 2017 - Inkscape Docs - Inkscape Mailman

504 and 502 gateway errors
by brynn 25 Jan '17

25 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I know there are issues with the website not having enough space lately. But just to document. Or maybe this wasn't related to that? I was trying to get to: https://inkscape.org/en/contribute/contributors/ All best, brynn

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server errors in gallery
by brynn 20 Jan '17

20 Jan '17

Hi Friends, Martin, I'm getting server errors when I try to open resources in the gallery that I've never opened before. If I've opened them before, they open as normal. I want to keep testing and try to gather info for you, but the error message says that it's generating an email. So I don't want to flood you. But let me know if I can help. All best, brynn

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vetting tutorials for the website
by brynn 18 Jan '17

18 Jan '17

Hi Friends, I've updated the bug report about this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape-web/+bug/1603669 Here's a first draft of the guidelines. I'm sure it can be more concise, if necessary. But I'm still not sure where would be the best place to put it. The black space on the gallery page? A separate page, with a link on the upload form? Comments and/or edits welcome! https://inkscapecommunity.com/jd/vet-tut.odt (it's a text file) You'll notice the first guideline is really a question whether the guidelines should include instructions for uploading. I guess once Martin finishes the new functionality for uploading a link, it won't be necessary. But if we put this into action on the website before that, people will probably need instructions. Well, at least I will. I tried to do it the other day, but couldn't figure it out. Another thing I'm not sure about. When Martin said there would be 2 big categories, vetted and not vetted, I wasn't clear if that is going to be 2 different galley pages? Or would it be filters (like the Inkscape version, platform, and extension type, on the Extension page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=extension/?order=-edited) Thanks, brynn

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by brynn 15 Jan '17

15 Jan '17

I'm so confused! We were talking about editing the Video Tutorials page. But now we are putting them in the gallery? -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:47 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/upload/ Resource Name, Descriptin, External Link - In here YouTube Link as I understand. 03.01.2017, 23:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I don't understand what this means: - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. Thanks -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:32 PM To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Am 03.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb brynn: Hi Vardenis, I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text? Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? - Yes, they can be tagged just like any other item in the gallery. The tags on the right are the 'official' ones, just like it works for the extensions. (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.) But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. - He was rather asking to post a link as a resource. The embedding will work automatically. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like. I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes. But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? - Nope, most are 'Standard Youtube Licence'. Regards, Maren Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can add text and other important information like the license (if there is one). This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the gallery widgets. Martin, On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote: No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of tutorials, with a link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page needs some attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be organized like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. Thanks for your help, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y bkhs). I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest. What do you thinks about that? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com /index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon. I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it. One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current. Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.) All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? 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Re: [Inkscape-docs] [Inkscape-translator] Website / Wiki: Release translations
by Maren Hachmann 04 Jan '17

04 Jan '17

Hi everyone (including docs list website editors), okay, so the release is out :) What's problematic currently because of all the people visiting the website is the website performance. I've found that editing doesn't work for me, and publishing trials end up in server nirvana. I'll wait with making any further changes until it's calmer, maybe at night, when website traffic is low (I've gotten a couple of new shield images from Jabier). Or, if that doesn't suffice, then maybe a couple of days later. Next time, we should probably ask for a couple of additional days, so we have some time to prepare the website properly before the visitors DDOS the site ;-) Kind Regards, Maren Am 04.01.2017 um 03:01 schrieb Maren Hachmann: > Dear website and Wiki translators, > > for the pending release of Inkscape 0.92, a couple of things have been > updated, some of which are publicly accessible already, and some will be > shortly. > > We will need your help spreading the news for you language community :) > > When the new version is released (see inkscape-announce mailing list), > it would be great if you could contact your language's software / design > / open source communities' news outlets with some info about Inkscape > 0.92. The info you need to do so is available here: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning092#Informal_Announ… > > (if you're contacting German or French news sites, note that there are > translations of the release notes available for linking) > > These are the pages that could use translation help, if you can do so: > > ===================== > > Website changes (not public yet, please take care to not accidentally > publish anything before the release announcement was made): > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/ - release notes link, version number > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/linux/ - several changes, incl. above > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/windows/ - files exchanged, version > number, release notes link > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/mac-os/ - changed top paragraph, > including heading (Latest *available* version) > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/source/ - version number, release > notes link, download link > > * https://inkscape.org/en/download/development-versions/ - moved > pre-release versions down > > * https://inkscape.org/en/ - bumped the version number in the shield > > * https://inkscape.org/en/learn/books/ - updated keyboard reference link > > * News Article (not published yet, thus no link) - it's almost the same > as the announcement, plus a lot of formatting. > > > ============= > > Wiki: > > * Release notes, pending change: will soon have a date. > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92 > > * Announcement texts are finished and can be used to spread the news: > > http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/AnnouncePlanning092#Informal_Announ… > > Thank you very much for all your help, > Kind Regards, > Maren > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Inkscape-translator mailing list > Inkscape-translator(a)lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-translator >

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Website, Debugging updated: Publish?
by Maren Hachmann 04 Jan '17

04 Jan '17

Hi, Martin seems to have updated the debugging section a couple of days ago: https://inkscape.org/en/develop/debugging/?edit Was it intended to be published, or is it still a WIP? Maren

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by Maren Hachmann 03 Jan '17

03 Jan '17

Vardenis, can you please reply to the list? Depending on your email program, there are different ways to accomplish that, e.g. 'reply to all' is available for me, but you may need to paste the list into the address line yourself. Embedding should be okay, though - but you can ask Nick and heathenx and whoever you would like to include if they agree first. Or even invite them to upload them themselves, so they're linked to their own user account at inkscape.org, and can serve as some kind of 'entry point' for publicity for them. It might be that they're not too happy, if we put all their videos on the website, because it could be they generate income via their youtube pages... Asking is always nicer, in any case. Regards, Maren Am 03.01.2017 um 22:44 schrieb Vardenis Pavardenis: > Yes, Maren I'm think explains what Martin thought. (my English... :-() > Most of videos are in "Standard YouTube License" then it can't be > uploaded as resource in gallery. (Nick Soporito, even heathenxyt using.). > > > 03.01.2017, 23:38, "Maren Hachmann" <maren@...68...>: >> >> Am 03.01.2017 um 22:33 schrieb brynn: >> >> Oh, hi Maren :-) >> >> Did I do it right? Please look at text link >> "Inkscape-screencast2-Globe" which is the first under "with >> narration" >> for Richard Querin. >> >> Or did he mean to put it in the gallery, and I misunderstood? >> >> >> - Yes :) >> >> Thanks, >> brynn >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Maren Hachmann >> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 2:29 PM >> To: inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in >> website >> >> Am 03.01.2017 um 20:45 schrieb brynn: >> >> First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video >> watcher. >> Is there >> no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it? >> >> >> - Martin meant 'upload a link as a resource to the website' when he >> wrote 'upload'. Linking should be allowed in this case :) (standard >> youtube licence, I expect). >> >> Regards, >> Maren >> >> Thanks, >> brynn >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM >> To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis >> Cc: Inkscape-Docs >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section >> in website >> >> Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, >> if you add >> the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and >> you can >> add text and other important information like the license (if >> there is >> one). >> >> This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages >> using the >> gallery widgets. >> >> Martin, >> >> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote: >> >> No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of >> tutorials, with a >> link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. >> That page >> needs some >> attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how >> it got to be >> organized >> like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. >> >> Thanks for your help, >> brynn >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM >> To: brynn >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" >> section in >> website >> >> >> No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't >> agree with >> me). I'm not >> editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" >> section, >> and I'm >> thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art >> tutorials can be >> more >> helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. >> I can try (In text editor) create page with format >> familiar to the >> current with >> new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) >> >> >> 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78... >> <mailto:brynn@...78...>>: >> >> >> Hi Vardenis, >> Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a >> huge amount of >> Inkscape >> tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as >> when he >> first >> started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me >> crazy that he >> ALWAYS >> calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I >> mentioned >> it, he still >> keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and >> I think >> they are >> helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. >> Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text >> tutorials. I >> think only a >> few are videos. Unless recently he's started using >> videos? But yes, >> very good! >> I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your >> link and check >> it out. >> Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video >> Tutorials >> page more >> current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to >> say that you >> are >> going to edit that page? If you want to help with the >> Inkscape >> project, and >> edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the >> website. >> >> All best, >> brynn >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM >> To: brynn >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" >> section in >> website >> >> >> Hello, Brynn, >> Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to >> help with >> your website >> and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video >> Tutorials section >> in website, >> Thanks for you help. ;-) >> I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick >> Saporito >> (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), >> he have >> playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape >> Beginner >> Tutorials, >> Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface >> Tutorials, Inkscape >> Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to >> advanced topics in >> Inkscape, >> too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists >> ) >> for game >> art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless >> patterns, too in >> channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - >> Inkscape >> And Drawing >> have interesting tutorials >> (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y >> bkhs). >> >> I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section >> more modern and >> more >> interest. >> >> What do you thinks about that? >> >> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) >> >> >> 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78... >> <mailto:brynn@...78...>>: >> >> >> I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a >> list of what >> I consider >> the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they >> don't contain >> any errors >> or outdated steps) on my website: >> https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com >> <https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/> >> /index.php >> It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But >> I'll make it >> current >> pretty soon. >> >> I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, >> eventually, but >> can't start >> on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd >> be glad to >> help you, if >> you wanted or needed it. >> >> One thing which could probably be done right away, is to >> put a link >> on that >> page, to this page >> https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They >> aren't all >> video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more >> current. >> >> Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and >> also asking >> for >> volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? >> I know he's >> looking >> to help out.) >> >> All best, >> brynn >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens >> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM >> To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs >> Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" >> section in >> website >> >> On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. >> Videos in >> this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these >> tutorials is >> bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to >> newer (video >> quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website >> (Because is >> hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most >> people searching >> in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? >> In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video >> tutorials. >> >> >> >> I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available >> if you'd >> like >> to have a go. >> >> The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, >> maybe make >> a >> list of all the really great stuff, then think about how >> you'd put it >> together on a website. >> >> Sound like fun? >> >> Best Regards, Martin Owens >> Website Administrator >> >> >> >> Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this >> only for >> discussion. :-) >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >> world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >> world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----------- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the >> world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> _______________________________________________ >> Inkscape-docs mailing list >> Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net >> <mailto:Inkscape-docs@lists.sourceforge.net> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs >>

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by brynn 03 Jan '17

03 Jan '17

Hi Vardenis, I think I understand what you mean. You're thinking it would be better not to mix up video and text tutorials, in the gallery? Well, they already are mixed up in the gallery (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/). However, you can choose to look at only text or only videos. See on the right column, where it says "textual" and "video", black buttons with white text? Although I'm not sure if that works, if the author did not put such a tag when they uploaded?? Yeah, if you click on video, it's blank, as if there were no videos. Is it possible to manually add those tags, to the video tutorials? (I'm addressing this reply to the list, since I have this question.) But Martin is talking about something else, I think. He's asking to have the videos embedded on the Video Tutorials page. I haven't ever done that before, or seen it. So I'm not sure what it will look like. I'll try an example, using one of the heathenex vids, because I know they have a free license. Then we can both see what it's going to look like. I'll do it in just a few minutes. But I still wonder about taking just any YT video and embedding it. Are all YT videos automatically public domain? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2017 1:11 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website I'm thinking maybe better just add link's to article (Video Tutorials) and don't upload all this videos as resources in gallery, tutorials section (current video tutorials only link's), because in gallery, tutorials is more text based than videos, and I think if I would start uploading videos to tutorials category (https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/), it would become a bit of a mess and "Video Tutorials" category in websites loss of sense. What do you thinks? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. 03.01.2017, 21:45, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: First I should say that I'm not a frequent YT user or video watcher. Is there no copyright issue, to just grab a video and upload it? Thanks, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 9:49 PM To: brynn ; Vardenis Pavardenis Cc: Inkscape-Docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Don't forget to upload each of the videos into the website, if you add the youtube video as the URL link it will embed the video and you can add text and other important information like the license (if there is one). This way videos can be collected onto these tutorial pages using the gallery widgets. Martin, On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 16:02 -0700, brynn wrote: No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of tutorials, with a link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page needs some attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be organized like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. Thanks for your help, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Y bkhs). I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest. What do you thinks about that? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com /index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon. I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it. One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current. Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.) All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for discussion. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by brynn 03 Jan '17

03 Jan '17

No need to create a page. But if you want to make a list of tutorials, with a link to each one, I'll be glad to add them to that page. That page needs some attention besides current videos, too. I'm not sure how it got to be organized like it is, but I'm sure we could eliminate a lot of bullets. Thanks for your help, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Ybkhs). I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest. What do you thinks about that? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon. I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it. One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current. Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.) All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for discussion. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

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Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website
by brynn 02 Jan '17

02 Jan '17

Just a quick note. It can't be a link to a play list. It needs to be a link for each video. Thanks :-) -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 12:40 PM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website No, no (I don't have permissions and maybe someone don't agree with me). I'm not editing, I'm only discuss for now about "Video Tutorials" section, and I'm thinking Nick Saporito, Chris Hildenbrand, Sids Art tutorials can be more helpful than now tutorials in Video Tutorial section. I can try (In text editor) create page with format familiar to the current with new video tutorials from above authors and share here. :-) 02.01.2017, 21:26, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: Hi Vardenis, Yes, Nick Saporito has very quickly compiled a huge amount of Inkscape tutorials! I think that now, they aren't quite as good as when he first started. Goes a little too fast now. And it drives me crazy that he ALWAYS calls the Selection tool, "the arrow tool". Even after I mentioned it, he still keeps saying it. But still, they are a free resource, and I think they are helpful for a LOT of Inkscape users. Chris Hildenbrand's tutorials are mostly text tutorials. I think only a few are videos. Unless recently he's started using videos? But yes, very good! I haven't heard of Sids Art. I'll follow your link and check it out. Yes, those would certainly help to make the Video Tutorials page more current. I didn't understand you though. Did you mean to say that you are going to edit that page? If you want to help with the Inkscape project, and edit that page, we can give you permissions to edit the website. All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Vardenis Pavardenis Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 11:55 AM To: brynn Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website Hello, Brynn, Thanks for you website, it is amazing! And really try to help with your website and outdated tutorials, I'm now trying with Video Tutorials section in website, Thanks for you help. ;-) I'm thinking in "Video Tutorials" section tutorials from Nick Saporito (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEQXp_fcqwPcqrzNtWJ1w9w/playlists), he have playlist Inkscape explained(for very beginners), Inkscape Beginner Tutorials, Inkscape Intermediate/Advanced Tutorials, Inkscape Typeface Tutorials, Inkscape Logo tutorials, he explains from very beginning to advanced topics in Inkscape, too Chris Hildenbrand have awesome tutorials( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVMhFCCmrMisICIoyTIXsKw/playlists ) for game art, Inkscape basics of game art creation, Inkscape seamless patterns, too in channel is tutorials about how to animate. Too Sids Art - Inkscape And Drawing have interesting tutorials (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLI43BLYCGCqrnxqHwDRTni9K3V-Ybkhs). I'm thinking this videos make Video Tutorials section more modern and more interest. What do you thinks about that? Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks. :-) 02.01.2017, 20:41, "brynn" <brynn@...78...>: I have an interest in tutorials of all kinds, and keep a list of what I consider the best or most helpful tutorials (meaning that they don't contain any errors or outdated steps) on my website: https://forum.inkscapecommunity.com/index.php It's probably about 6 months out of date, right now. But I'll make it current pretty soon. I have a plan to bring them all over to the website, eventually, but can't start on it until I finish with other projects first. But I'd be glad to help you, if you wanted or needed it. One thing which could probably be done right away, is to put a link on that page, to this page https://inkscape.org/en/gallery/=tutorial/. They aren't all video tutorials, but those that are, are certainly more current. Maybe I'll add a note on that page, with the link, and also asking for volunteers. (I wonder if Victor would be interested, too? I know he's looking to help out.) All best, brynn -----Original Message----- From: Martin Owens Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 10:01 AM To: Vardenis Pavardenis ; inkscape-docs Subject: Re: [Inkscape-docs] Update "Video Tutorials" section in website On Mon, 2017-01-02 at 18:30 +0200, Vardenis Pavardenis wrote: Hello, "Video Tutorials" section in website is very, very old. Videos in this section is about from 2007 years. I don't say these tutorials is bad, but maybe is better to replace these tutorials to newer (video quality low, etc.) or redesign this section in website (Because is hard to share all new tutorial's, and I'm think most people searching in YouTube or something like Vimeo) ? In YouTube and Vimeo there are many who create Inkscape video tutorials. I believe the job of Video Tutorial curator is available if you'd like to have a go. The first thing to do is to think about what's out there, maybe make a list of all the really great stuff, then think about how you'd put it together on a website. Sound like fun? Best Regards, Martin Owens Website Administrator Sorry for my bad English language, Thanks, I'm post this only for discussion. :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Inkscape-docs mailing list Inkscape-docs(a)lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/inkscape-docs

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