April 2004 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

Re: [Inkscape-devel] Roadmapping for 0.39-0.50
by bulia byak 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

>Probably the best sequence to attack this in might be: I agree with all points except: > - start emplying Pango to perform text layout for e.g. SPText and >friends What is meant by this? What we DO need from Pango is proper glyph composites and contextual forms (in some languages, different glyphs are used for the same char in different positions), and that fits into the "get glyphs from Pango into the renderer" part. As for text layout proper, I see no need to rewrite it once again, with all the spacing and kerning that was added recently. In any case, compliant text layout is only possible if you know the document tree context (remember the example where one part of the dx/dy values for a string is taken from its parent, the other from grandparent, etc.?), and I doubt Pango is really capable of that. _________________________________________________________________ http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Feedback on 0.38 Release
by bulia byak 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

> > I'd rather have text editing via the top toolbar and on the fly than in > > the dialog, anyways. This would speed up things a lot. > >Agreed, or editable right on the canvas. Likely the Pango integration >will open up some new possibilities here. What's not editable about text right on the canvas now? And anyway, how can Pango ever affect that? :) _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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RE: [Inkscape-devel] Feedback on 0.38 Release
by bulia byak 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

>Hey, this sucks big time! I actually couldn't believe it, but so far, I >couldn't find anything in the specs, that allows me to change the style >of a single letter :( You can, by using <tspan>. Inkscape can render that but cannot yet create it. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the MSN Premium and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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compiled-in paths
by Kees Cook 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

I moved the INKSCAPE_*DIR paths into config.h so that all subdirs would pick them up. This also makes it dependencies will be checked correctly if "configure" is re-run and paths change. Before, you could change the "prefix" and some .cpp files would not get recompiled with the new path. Hopefully my logic is sane and I haven't horribly broken anything. It seems that either way (with Makefile -D's or with config.h #defines) the paths end up compiled in, so there's no difference other than better visibility to the defines. -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Re: Inkscape-devel digest, Vol 1 #328 - 13 msgs
by Peter Linnell 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

> Message: 4 > From: MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> > To: Inkscape ML <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net> > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 14:55:04 -0400 > Subject: [Inkscape-devel] Scribus > > > --=-S5irul3xdH7wfOFlVope > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, 2004-04-09 at 10:00, David Christian Berg wrote: > > That'd be great! Inkscape could actually beocome a desktop publishing > > app. I'm not sure though, if that might not bloat the project a little > > too much. As a gnome user I'm no friend of scribus, really, cause it's > > qt, but dtp should probably be done by another app. That app could be a > > fork of inkscape though. > > DTP isn't a goal for Inkscape, no. If someone wants to fork at some > point, they're certainly welcome to do so. > > Qt or no, I personally consider Scribus a sister project; the two > projects have been working closely together, and will continue to do so. > > -mental > Amen. I can assure you the thinking is mutual. Making a fully compliant SVG application is an ambitious and worthy goal. While Scribus has some basic drawing capabilites, it is unlikely to have anywhere near those of Inkscape. Moreover, cooperation has already led to some good ideas for the future, as well as immediate benefits. Both apps in their latest releases have much better importation / exporting results for end users. Over time, I have the sixth sense some big things will come from collaboration between the two - toolkits aside. Peter

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] "README" updating?
by bulia byak 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

>At the very least, Inkscape should be able to read in and >display <circle> elements properly (I think it does...) It does indeed. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN Premium. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=ht…

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weird look of current snapshot
by Artemio 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

Hello! I was going to check out the new icons for toolbars announced a while ago... but here's what I see. Artemio. P.S. Due to a lack of time to read, I unsubscribed from the devel list. So please CC me if you want to tell me something ;-) -- KDEvibes ::: audio environment for KDE ::: http://kdevibes.artemio.net/ [local time 19:55:32 (GMT +3) 12 April 2004] [system uptime 1 hr 59 min]

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building prereqs
by Kees Cook 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

It seems that we require automake 1.7 or newer now. (1.6 fails to build.) Shall I attempt to upgrade the min requirements? -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] autogen disaster
by Kees Cook 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

(don't forget to copy the list when you respond just in case other people can help too.) On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 01:05:38PM -0500, Jason Dusek wrote: > It prints this: > > ============================================================================= > When you report a trouble about building CVS version of inkscape, > Please report following information about distro and tools version, too. > > --1. > distribution------------------------------------------------------------ > FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE > > --2. > tools------------------------------------------------------------------- > which m4: /usr/bin/m4 > > and then it doesn't return. Hm, I suspect line 27 of "tools-version.sh". I bet BSD's "m4" isn't expecting "--version" and maybe waits for input. What does "m4 --version" do on your system? If it hangs, does m4 --version </dev/null NOT hang? Maybe I can put that fix in if it helps. -- Kees Cook @outflux.net

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by Jonathan Phillips 12 Apr '04

12 Apr '04

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