April 2005 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

gtkmm / TreeView
by Bryce Harrington 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Hi Murray, Speaking of gtkmm, one observation/request: We've noticed for Inkscape it would be __really__ handy to create a certain kind of dialog using the TreeView control. For things like the layer editor, extensions, preferences, XML editor, and so forth, we need hierarchical management of various XML and SVG trees. Basically, these dialogs use a TreeView widget on the left, which allow navigating through the tree and selecting an item, and then the right side of the dialog is updated to display widgets appropriate to that selection. This is a uber-common style of dialog for file or config management, etc. etc. Pull up Inkscape's XML Editor to get an idea of what we need. However... The problem has been that hooking up TreeView with all the code to manage the widgets, signals, and XML tree looks really intimidating. We've not been able to find an Inkscape volunteer brave enough to dive into it. Anyway, my thought is that this style of dialog would probably be extremely useful to other gtkmm users (in fact, I'd been planning to contribute it back to gtkmm if/when it got developed), and that perhaps the gtkmm team might be able to help in creating it? I think we could give a lot of ideas on the design and of course lots of feedback and testing as we incorporate it. Bryce On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 06:55:24PM +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: > At least with the sourceforge bug tracker you can't mark a bug as > dependent on gtkmm. > > -- > Murray Cumming > murrayc@...799... > www.murrayc.com > www.openismus.com > >

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NEW: more pen&pencil tweaking
by bulia byak 28 Apr '05

28 Apr '05

Some time ago I switched the "add mode" on by default when you go to Pen or Pencil tools. This makes it easier to continue the selected path, but if you just want to draw a new path, this may be annoying because it insists on creating a subpath of selected path. So now I changed that behavior so that: o When you start drawing outside of the end markers of the selected path, that path is deselected and you are drawing a new path (not a new subpath of the selected path as before). To continue the selected path, you have to start drawing from one of the end markers. o When you start drawing from one end marker of a path and arrive at the other end marker, the path gets closed automatically (the markers disappear). Note that this means you can't create unconnected subpaths simply by drawing anymore; you'll have to draw paths separately and then Combine them. I think this is OK, but if this is a problem for someone, please let me know. After these changes, I think it is now safe to turn the "add mode" always on, i.e. remove the possibility to turn it off by pressing "a". Again, if anyone disagrees, just blow the whistle. (Bryce, sorry to trouble you, but could you please again forward this to the devel list if you don't see it coming through there after some time) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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Please switch to bugzilla
by Murray Cumming 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Please please use a bugzilla. You could use GNOME's. You don't need to suffer the pain of the sourceforge bug tracker. -- Murray Cumming murrayc@...799... www.murrayc.com www.openismus.com

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Re: [Inkscape-user] Re: Tutorial conversion
by Jonathan Leighton 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

John Cliff wrote: >--- Edward Hume <edhume@...400...> wrote: > > > >>In Help the whole time. Imagine that. I'm so accustomed to useless >>Help sections that I never looked there. Thank you. >> >> >> > >Kinda tragic how often we hear that... > I've always felt that the tutorials are a little bit tucked away in the Help menu. As Edward said, most Help menus are a pile of rubbish. Can something be done to draw more attention to it? Maybe a dialog that says about it on the first start up... (Although people would probably have objections to that due to usability.) Jon -- Jonathan Leighton aka. Turnip http://turnipspatch.com/ | http://digital-proof.org/

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Re: Tutorial conversion
by bulia byak 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

On 4/24/05, inkscape-devel <inkscape-devel@...6...> wrote: > Unless I botched something, three. The advanced tutorial is in the tracker. Will do now. > > file:///home/d/ink/doc-docbook/shapes/tutorial-shapes.html > > file:///home/d/ink/doc-docbook/tracing/tutorial-tracing.html Oops :) http://inkscape.org/doc/shapes/tutorial-shapes.html http://inkscape.org/doc/tracing/tutorial-tracing.html -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org

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screenshots
by Nicu Buculei 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

I am not a developer, so I don't have means to add a screenshot to the website, but I think this one may be useful in showing how Inkscape can be used: http://nicubunu.ro/pictures/rpg/inkscape_rpg_map.png (extensive background for the scope of the image can be found on planet.openclipart.org) note: before posting here I checked http://inkscape.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WebsiteEditing , so forgive me if you consider this an abuse -- nicu

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pasting font style
by unknown＠example.com 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

Hi there, Pasting style (Shift-Ctrl-V) on text objects does not change the font family of the target. For instance, I have a text object A in Times New Roman, italic, size 12. I want to make it Arial, regular, size 18, just as another text object B in my document. So I copy text object B, mark text object A and hit (Shift-Ctrl-V). I expected object A to be Arial, regular, size 18 now. It is regular and size 18, however, still Times New Roman. Bug or feature? Regards Norbert ______________________________ BMW Group, ZT-1 Norbert Nitzsche Phone: +49-89-382-34132 mailto: Norbert.Nitzsche@...802... Url: http://www.bmwgroup.com

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Multiline Textbox for Extensions
by Ted Gould 27 Apr '05

27 Apr '05

On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 06:44 -0500, aaron@...749... wrote: > Ted Gould wrote: > > On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 10:52 -0500, aaron@...749... wrote: > > > >>Would multiline text input be useful for extensions? I can think of > >>three specific uses at the moment: > >> > >>But all of these could be solved in other ways: line delimiters and > >>extension specific GUIs. Thoughts? > > > > From the coding perspective, no problem. I'm just concerned that we're > > setting ourselves up for a failed user paradigm. > > I can understand that. What are your thoughts on people writing > extensions that pop up their own GUIs? I have no problem with that, in general. But, the way that would be ideal for that is having the extension tie into the "preferences" stage of the extension's evaluation. We've discussed this before. The problem is how to get the parameters in and out of the Inkscape preferences file. If you look on the menu, there is a way to call the last effect with the previous settings -- this is a very useful feature that I'd like to maintain. In order to do that, Inkscape needs to know the extension's preferences. I'm not sure of the best way to get this done. The only way that I can think of is to have the script return the preference values to STDOUT, but that doesn't feel like a good solution. Ideas are welcome. --Ted

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NEW: more pen&pencil tweaking]
by Bryce Harrington 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

----- Forwarded message from bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> ----- Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 18:36:07 -0300 From: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> To: inkscape <inkscape-devel(a)lists.sourceforge.net>, Bryce Harrington <bryce@...260...> Reply-To: bulia byak <buliabyak@...400...> Subject: NEW: more pen&pencil tweaking Some time ago I switched the "add mode" on by default when you go to Pen or Pencil tools. This makes it easier to continue the selected path, but if you just want to draw a new path, this may be annoying because it insists on creating a subpath of selected path. So now I changed that behavior so that: o When you start drawing outside of the end markers of the selected path, that path is deselected and you are drawing a new path (not a new subpath of the selected path as before). To continue the selected path, you have to start drawing from one of the end markers. o When you start drawing from one end marker of a path and arrive at the other end marker, the path gets closed automatically (the markers disappear). Note that this means you can't create unconnected subpaths simply by drawing anymore; you'll have to draw paths separately and then Combine them. I think this is OK, but if this is a problem for someone, please let me know. After these changes, I think it is now safe to turn the "add mode" always on, i.e. remove the possibility to turn it off by pressing "a". Again, if anyone disagrees, just blow the whistle. (Bryce, sorry to trouble you, but could you please again forward this to the devel list if you don't see it coming through there after some time) -- bulia byak Inkscape. Draw Freely. http://www.inkscape.org ----- End forwarded message -----

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some bugs in 0.41 and still in latest build (04/25/2005)
by unknown＠example.com 26 Apr '05

26 Apr '05

have been using inkscape for a while and start to like it, but: -it occasionally switches my input settings from DE to EN (I have installed german and english input schemes) (I'm using Windows XP SP1) -I don't like the size of objects beeing measured inclusive their stroke width, this is unintuitiv -start and end markers of lines (e.g. arrow heads) are always black, no matter what color the line is -I would like to see, in the future, "magnetic" lines, corners, center points, intersections...as in Illustrator. ______________________________ BMW Group, ZT-1 Norbert Nitzsche Phone: +49-89-382-34132 mailto: Norbert.Nitzsche@...802... Url: http://www.bmwgroup.com

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