July 2005 - Inkscape Devel - Inkscape Mailman

SVG in OpenDocument
by Jon Phillips 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

Hello all, Would anyone be interested in following up on the problems between the OpenDocument format and SVG? Mental, you seemed most versed in discussing these issues previously. I fear we are too late! OOo is geared up with OpenDocument support and I noticed that Krita and other KOffice apps already support the format. Man, why couldn't OpenDocument just use SVG man...ugh! Inkscape will need to support import/export of OpenDocument in the near future. http://books.evc-cit.info/odbook/book.html I have added two bugs for this for export and import: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1235849&group_id=9… http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1233861&group_id=9… How do you all feel about? What are your thoughts? If you are interested in seeing a quick overview of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument Scribus already supports this format as well. Daniel, could you inform both lists about the state of your discussion with OASIS about this? Jon -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Daniel Carrera <dcarrera@...878...> > To: Jon Phillips <jon@...235...> > Subject: SVG in OpenDocument. > Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 04:16:40 -0400 > > Hi Jon, > > I've been trying to follow up on the issue with SVG and OpenDocument. I > admit I'm out of my area here, I don't really know much about SVG. > > I've been trying to contact developers in OpenOffice.org in charge of > SVG import to get them to list where OpenDocument fails to be SVG > compatible and send the information to the OASIS TC. Gary says that the > TC really looks at incomming comments and will try to fix the format. > > Since you know SVG, and you found areas where OpenDocument is not doing > things right, I was hoping that you too might contact the OASIS TC. The > mailing list is office-comment@...879... > > I'm sure that getting the format fixed will be a slow process. I've > never heard of a standards body that did things fast. But I do want to > see the format fixed. > > As for myself, I'm slowly reading through a book on OpenDocument, so I > can have a better idea of what I'm talking about: > > http://books.evc-cit.info/odbook/book.html > > Cheers, > Daniel. > -- Jon Phillips USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org)

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projective transform extension (almost)
by unknown＠example.com 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

This morning on Jabber someone mentioned perspective transforms, so I wasted the whole day trying to see if I could write an extension for such a thing. I can't. I'm missing the most important part: the transformation matrix. But if someone can provide a python function to calculate the transformation matrix given the bbox rectangle of a path and an arbitrary destination quadrilateral, I think it might work. I tried unsuccesfully to borrow code from these two sources: http://cvs.gnome.org/viewcvs/gimp/app/core/gimp-transform-utils.c?view=mark… https://jai-core.dev.java.net/source/browse/jai-core/src/share/classes/java… If someone wants to take a stab at the task my unfinished code is here (I'm not sure what state of debugging I left it in): http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/project.py http://www.ekips.org/comp/inkscape/inx/project.inx In order to use the effect the user must: 1. draw a 4 node path (it makes sense for the path to be closed but I suppose it isn't necessary). 2. adjust those 4 nodes to the corners of the destination quadrilateral. 3. select the control quad before the path that should be transformed. (only those two paths should be selected.) No, I don't think that this is convenient or intuitive. Please help, Aaron Spike

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svgslice and inkscape autodetection warning
by Lee Braiden 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

SVGSlice is now working as an extension. If anyone is interested in getting this into inkscape's officially included extensions, would it be possible to do this for 42.1, or is that going to be bugfix-only? There is one small Inkscape issue, which I'm currently working around. I'm calling inkscape from within an extension, like so: inkscape --without-gui --export-id="itemtoexport" --export-png="pngfilename" "svgfilename" But this outputs the following: ** (inkscape:25789): WARNING **: Format autodetect failed. The file is being opened as SVG. Strangely, this doesn't happen on the same file if I load it directly from the command line with inkscape "svgfilename". At the moment, I'm redirecting the errors from the inkscape call to /dev/null, since inkscape will display the warnings as an extension failure. However, I'd prefer not to have to do this, in case inkscape DOES have something important to warn about. Is this something I can prevent, or a bug that can be fixed for 42.1 somehow, regardless of whether the extension can make that release? -- Lee Braiden http://www.DigitalUnleashed.com

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Test some packages
by Daniel Díaz 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Hello, all! I'm about to launch a new Bleeding-Edge Inkscape Factory (now with more bandwidth and more disk space and features) so I'd like some of you to test the generated packages. The temporary URL is: http://mrchapp2.homelinux.net/~inkscape/ This BEIF can do Autopackage for Linux and cross-compile for Win32 (and do Zips, 7zips, NSIS installers, and the good old à la carte directory.) I don't have a Win32 computer to test it with, so I'd appreciate if anyone can test it in the verge of this last release, so that Inkscape 0.43 will have a full-fledged factory from tomorrow on. I'm also very new to Autopackages whatsoever, and don't know if these packages are generated correctly. Hints will be appreciated. Also, this BEIF would be very easily replicated at some other hosts as I prepared a setup script that would take care of it all. I hope this will ease the cross-compiler installations. Thanks to everybody that helped me in setting this up. Greetings! Daniel Díaz yosoy@...31...

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Re: [Inkscape-devel] Test some packages
by aaron＠...749... 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Daniel Díaz wrote: > Hi, Aaron! > > > On 7/24/05, aaron@...749... <aaron@...749...> wrote: > >>Daniel Díaz wrote: >> >>>Also, this BEIF would be very easily replicated at some other hosts as >>>I prepared a setup script that would take care of it all. I hope this >>>will ease the cross-compiler installations. >> >>I'm interested. >>Aaron Spike > > > You can download the scripts from here: > http://mrchapp2.homelinux.net/~ddiaz/inkscape/beif-0.2.0.tar.gz > > Your input is very welcome! I downloaded one of your autopackages today. You have the same problem I have. We need to staticly link the C++ libs. (Though maybe this isn't quite as necessary for the nightly builds.) Aaron Spike

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0.42.1 status
by MenTaLguY 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Here's what I've got now. Any more stuff? Or bug numbers for the missing items? I'm still looking for a fix for the Win98 crashes and font cache issues in particular... (fwiw, I'm saving po and tutorials for last) > 2005-07-30 MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> > > * src/sp-tspan.cpp: fix from bulia for incorrect tag name [bug 1247658] > > * packaging/win32/inkscape.nsi: > fix from Adib to purge dlls from preexisting installation [bug 1247068] > > 2005-07-29 MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> > > * src/text-editing.cpp: another backport from cyreve [bug number??] > > 2005-07-28 MenTaLguY <mental@...3...> > > * Makefile.mingw.common, configure.ac, > packaging/win32/inkscape.nsi, src/inkscape_version.h.mingw: > > bump version to 0.42+0.42.1cvs > > * src/dialogs/stroke-style.cpp: backport bulia's fix for stroke width > spin button [bug number??] > > * src/text-editing.cpp: backport bulia's fix for text crash > [bug 1247066] > > * src/libnrtype/Layout-TNG-OutIter.cpp: backport cyreve fix for > crash on delete in virgin flowtext [bug 1245842] > > * configure.ac: Kees fix for libgc detection w/dlopen [bug number??]

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Number of Inkscape Users Worldwide
by Jon Phillips 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

How could we estimate the number of users of Inkscape internationally? I've been thinking about this much. How many people use Inkscape on a daily basis, or have used it? There must be some good statistical method for calculating how many users Inkscape has...obviously, the concept of user would need to be refined, but is there anyone on this list that could speak to this? We know that we have at least 40,000 new downloads of 0.42 of Inkscape...which is a lowball figure for our total number of users IMO. Could we say there are several thousand users of Inkscape? Jon -- Jon Phillips San Francisco, CA USA PH 510.499.0894 jon@...235... http://www.rejon.org MSN, AIM, Yahoo Chat: kidproto Jabber Chat: rejon@...896... IRC: rejon@...897... Inkscape (http://inkscape.org) Open Clip Art Library (www.openclipart.org)

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FW: Screenshot für Inkscape ins nächste c't-Heft
by Taraben, Adib 30 Jul '05

30 Jul '05

Bruce, the writer for this german computer magazin C't wanted to add a screenshot in their next issue. He is asking wheter he can just take one from the web page without conflicting any copyrights. This is very urgent as he has to finalize his article tomorrow morning. BTW: do they exists in svg format also ? Thanks, Adib. ---- -----Original Message----- From: Peter König [mailto:pek@...883...] Sent: Thu 7/28/2005 14:28 To: Taraben, Adib Subject: Screenshot für Inkscape ins nächste c't-Heft Hallo Herr Taraben, ich habe eine relativ dringende Anfrage: Das schöne Inkscape-Release soll nach dem Heise-Newsticker nun auch auf einer der Aktuell-Seiten im Heft vorgestellt werden. Dazu bräuchte ich noch bis morgen Mittag (besser noch heute) einen schönen Screenshot des neuen Releases. Es gibt auf der Website ja einige Beispiele, aber kann man davon einfach welche nehmen, ohne dass es Probleme mit dem Copyright gibt? Mit freundlichen Grüßen und vielem Dank, Peter König, c't

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Re: [Inkscape-user] News item about 0.42.1
by Adib Taraben 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

bulia byak schrieb: > On 7/29/05, Adib Taraben <taraben.a@...50...> wrote: > >>Bryce, I have solved: >>1247068 WIN32: unable to start when installed over 0.41 > > > Excellent - please make sure the fix gets into 0.42.1 (contact Mental if needed) > Mental, /inkscape/packaging/win32/inkscape.nsi Version 1.9 solves the issue. It clears all dll's, the etc, lib and local path. To remove anything from previous libs. But keeps share , ... Need someone to really doublecheck. I tested on WinXP German. HTH, Adib.

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working directory for extensions
by Lee Braiden 29 Jul '05

29 Jul '05

Is there any reason why Inkscape remains CD'd to the startup directory when calling extensions, or would it be possible to set the working directory to the one a file is being saved in? Otherwise, I need some other way to figure out were to save additional files besides the extension's main output file. -- Lee Braiden http://www.DigitalUnleashed.com

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